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From: stephband <stephband@lineone.net>
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 at 9:16:22 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Logic delay after recording
Message #229149
> >I have done that, otherwise it wouyld take a lot longer than 10 > >seconds after each 16 track take. > Posted by: "pancenter" hwooten@dakotacom.net pancenter > Right... like 5 minutes. Noooo... I have journalling on on my audio drive, and I only have a 10 second wait after recording 16 track takes. Stephen.
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From: "pancenter" <hwooten@dakotacom.net>
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 at 2:14:16 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Logic delay after recording
Message #229151
This is a reply to #229149.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, stephband <stephband@...> wrote: > > > >I have done that, otherwise it wouyld take a lot longer than 10 > > >seconds after each 16 track take. > >>Posted by: "pancenter" hwooten@... pancenter > >>Right... like 5 minutes. > >Noooo... I have journalling on on my audio drive, and I only have a >10 second wait after recording 16 track takes. Different subject... we were referring to having the "create overview" option selected. HW
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From: Chris Coccia <mothra@descentrecords.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 at 2:16:40 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: Logic delay after recording
Message #229153
This is a reply to #229151.
pancenter wrote: > Different subject... we were referring to having the "create overview" > option selected. > > HW After all these years Im still wondering why Pro Tools does it as you record and Logic, even though you see it drawing the waveforms while recording, still has to stop afterwards and redraw the regions.. -- Chris http://www.monotrematamusic.com http://www.myspace.com/monotremata http://www.descentrecords.com
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From: "pancenter" <hwooten@dakotacom.net>
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 at 3:05:27 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Logic delay after recording
Message #229158
This is a reply to #229153.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Chris Coccia <mothra@...> wrote: > > pancenter wrote: > >>Different subject... we were referring to having the "create >>overview" option selected. >> >> HW > >After all these years Im still wondering why Pro Tools does it as >you record and Logic, even though you see it drawing the waveforms >while recording, still has to stop afterwards and redraw the >regions.. Chris, I think the redraws are high resolution overviews for the sample editor to use. PT, Cubase/Nuendo & most other DAWs I've seen seem to only need the the original overview created as the files are recorded. Howard
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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@gmx.de>
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 at 2:33:57 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Logic delay after recording
Message #229161
This is a reply to #229153.
Chris Coccia wrote: > After all these years Im still wondering why Pro Tools does it as you > record and Logic, even though you see it drawing the waveforms while > recording, still has to stop afterwards and redraw the regions.. Yeah, that's defenitely something to wonder about. But: A) the waveforms drawn during recording are just a really draft approximation. And b), because of that, drawing them should cause minimal CPU overheads, so perhaps it's just one of several ways to put more focus (or priority) on the actual audio recording. On the other hand, a lot of other hosts are drawing accurate (even sample accurate, ahem...) waveforms on the fly while recording, so it can't be that much of a tough thing. Regards Sascha
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From: Chris Coccia <mothra@descentrecords.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 at 3:46:28 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Logic delay after recording
Message #229162
This is a reply to #229161.
Sascha Franck wrote: > Chris Coccia wrote: >> After all these years Im still wondering why Pro Tools does it as you >> record and Logic, even though you see it drawing the waveforms while >> recording, still has to stop afterwards and redraw the regions.. > > Yeah, that's defenitely something to wonder about. But: A) the waveforms > drawn during recording are just a really draft approximation. And b), > because of that, drawing them should cause minimal CPU overheads, so perhaps > it's just one of several ways to put more focus (or priority) on the actual > audio recording. > On the other hand, a lot of other hosts are drawing accurate (even sample > accurate, ahem...) waveforms on the fly while recording, so it can't be that > much of a tough thing. > > Regards > Sascha > Yeah thats what I was just about to reply to the previous post on. I can dig that Logic would have to redo it since it wont do sample accurate editing in the Arrange anyways, makes sense to have to redraw another copy for elsewhere. But still, PT and others do sample accurate right there in the main window and they only do the drawing once while recording is going on.. But perhaps this is one of those areas why people claim PT is so much more efficient for audio recording who knows.. Maybe Logic and all its features just require too much overhead so they figured split it into seperate tasks to avoid those lovely CPU overloads while recording? -- Chris http://www.monotrematamusic.com http://www.myspace.com/monotremata http://www.descentrecords.com
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From: Maurits van de Kamp <maurits@bassment.nu>
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 at 4:06:17 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: Logic delay after recording
Message #229183
This is a reply to #229153.
> After all these years Im still wondering why Pro Tools does it as you > record and Logic, even though you see it drawing the waveforms while > recording, still has to stop afterwards and redraw the regions.. I don't know about Pro Tools, but in Logic the image that is created afterwards is more accurate than the one drawn during recording. Also, during recording it's just blurted out to the screen rather than creating a proper graphics object, which explains why the during-recording-preview disappears as soon as the arrange window has to be redrawn. So it would seem Logic tries not to waste any time during recording on stuff like that. Maurits.
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