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From: Martijn Hostetler <tijnybubbles@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 at 3:01:37 PM
Subject: advice -- what kind of new computer should i get ?
Message #228991
i'm using Logic 7 Pro with an MBox 2 on a PowerPC G4 laptop, 1.67GHz processor and 2GB of RAM. and yet I have to constantly freeze and unfreeze my audio instrument tracks if i try to use more than, say, 3 or 4. and it drives me nuts. what kind of desktop computer can i get that will allow me to use, say, 9 or 10 looping audio instruments without having to freeze? or is there ANYTHING i can do to improve my laptop's performance? any advice is highly appreciated..... i am feeling stymied by my computer's performance. it's baffling because ProTools rarely runs out of power, but these audio instruments just kick my computer's butt.
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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@gmx.de>
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 at 3:23:48 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] advice -- what kind of new computer should i get ?
Message #228995
This is a reply to #228991.
Martijn Hostetler wrote: > what kind of desktop computer can i get that will allow me to use, say, 9 > or > 10 looping audio instruments without having to freeze? or is there > ANYTHING i can do to improve my laptop's performance? My Macbook (2GHz CoreDuo, 2GB RAM) is doing such a job easily. So any other actual Mac should be up to the task as well (unless you're running 10 tracks of Sculpture with full polyphonic chords). > any advice is highly appreciated..... i am feeling stymied by my > computer's > performance. it's baffling because ProTools rarely runs out of power, but > these audio instruments just kick my computer's butt. Yeah well, audio instruments really require a powerful CPU. But, fwiw, for now, whenever you can, try to use the EXS as much as possible. It's by far the most efficient virtual instrument coming with Logic (the reason being that it doesn't need to create the initial sound in the first place, as it's a sampler). Things such as Sculpture and the EVB3 however will really bring your system to a halt rather soon. Regards Sascha
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From: Andy Hardwake <andyhardwake@mac.com>
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 at 12:29:11 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] advice -- what kind of new computer should i get ?
Message #229009
This is a reply to #228991.
> Message posted by Martijn Hostetler <tijnybubbles@yahoo.com>: > > i'm using Logic 7 Pro with an MBox 2 on a PowerPC G4 laptop, 1.67GHz > processor and 2GB of RAM. and yet I have to constantly freeze and unfreeze > my audio instrument tracks if i try to use more than, say, 3 or 4. and it > drives me nuts. > > what kind of desktop computer can i get that will allow me to use, say, 9 or > 10 looping audio instruments without having to freeze? or is there > ANYTHING i can do to improve my laptop's performance? > > any advice is highly appreciated..... i am feeling stymied by my computer's > performance. it's baffling because ProTools rarely runs out of power, but > these audio instruments just kick my computer's butt. Make sure automatic plug compensation is set to off, 64 busses is unchecked, processor buffer is set to medium or large and buffer size is set to 512 or 1024 samples. If you still have the same issues with the settings above, I am afraid you have no choice but try another audio card as Digi CoreAudio driver steals out 30% of the performance. Best, Andy
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From: George Leger III <george3@utopiaparkwaymusic.com>
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 at 1:02:13 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] advice -- what kind of new computer should i get ?
Message #229012
This is a reply to #229009.
On May 28, 2007, at 10:29 PM, Andy Hardwake wrote: > processor buffer is set to medium or large Bad idea this one... Setting the process buffer to large causes lots of issues. Set to small or medium, not large. Take care, George Leger III ________________________________________________________ http://www.myspace.com/georgelegeriii http://www.utopiaparkwaymusic.com Music is the best (FZ)... Mac AND PC: The only way to fly 8-}
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From: Andy Hardwake <andyhardwake@mac.com>
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 at 1:09:30 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] advice -- what kind of new computer should i get ?
Message #229014
This is a reply to #229012.
Hi George, On May 28, 2007, at 11:02 PM, George Leger III wrote: > Setting the process buffer to large causes lots of issues. Set to > small or medium, not large. Hmm... Can you amplify? Just want to understand the logic behind this... Thanks a lot. Best, Andy
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From: Michael Telle <telle@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 at 10:29:58 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] advice -- what kind of new computer should i get ?
Message #229027
This is a reply to #229012.
On May 28, 2007, at 11:02 PM, George Leger III wrote: > > Setting the process buffer to large causes lots of issues. Set to > small or medium, not large. > > Take care, George Leger III Hey George, Do you mind explaining what kinds of issues? Thanks Michael Telle
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From: George Leger III <george3@utopiaparkwaymusic.com>
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 at 10:56:00 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] advice -- what kind of new computer should i get ?
Message #229032
This is a reply to #229014.
On May 28, 2007, at 11:09 PM, Andy Hardwake wrote: > Hi George, > > On May 28, 2007, at 11:02 PM, George Leger III wrote: > > > Setting the process buffer to large causes lots of issues. Set to > > small or medium, not large. > > Hmm... Can you amplify? Just want to understand the logic behind > this... > Thanks a lot. > > Best, > > Andy Crashing, core audio overload issues mostly. Not sure if it's a bug, or what, but in my experience, whenever I'm problem solving a Logic installation, and the buffer was set to Large to attempt to resolve some issue, or just because bigger is better, Setting it to small or medium has caused the system to become more stable. Take care, George Leger III ________________________________________________________ http://www.myspace.com/georgelegeriii http://www.utopiaparkwaymusic.com Music is the best (FZ)... Mac AND PC: The only way to fly 8-}
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From: Andy Hardwake <andyhardwake@mac.com>
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 at 11:25:37 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] advice -- what kind of new computer should i get ?
Message #229034
This is a reply to #229032.
Hi George, On May 29, 2007, at 8:56 AM, George Leger III wrote: > Crashing, core audio overload issues mostly. > > Not sure if it's a bug, or what, but in my experience, whenever I'm > problem solving a Logic installation, and the buffer was set to Large > to attempt to resolve some issue, or just because bigger is better, > Setting it to small or medium has caused the system to become more > stable. Hmmmm... Here it is exactly the opposite... I've just tried the other 2 settings and got crashes and instability right away... Go figure... That's why I always keep mine at "large"... Probably since 6.0.x or so... Thanks for taking the time though. Best, Andy
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From: George Leger III <george3@utopiaparkwaymusic.com>
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 at 11:40:44 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] advice -- what kind of new computer should i get ?
Message #229035
This is a reply to #229034.
On May 29, 2007, at 9:25 AM, Andy Hardwake wrote: > Crashing, core audio overload issues mostly. > > > > Not sure if it's a bug, or what, but in my experience, whenever I'm > > problem solving a Logic installation, and the buffer was set to > Large > > to attempt to resolve some issue, or just because bigger is better, > > Setting it to small or medium has caused the system to become more > > stable. > > Hmmmm... Here it is exactly the opposite... I've just tried the > other 2 > settings and got crashes and instability right away... Go figure... > That's > why I always keep mine at "large"... Probably since 6.0.x or so... > Thanks > for taking the time though. > > Best, > > Andy Are you running an older computer, like a G4? If the cpu is slower, this might account for the difference. Take care, George Leger III ________________________________________________________ http://www.myspace.com/georgelegeriii http://www.utopiaparkwaymusic.com Music is the best (FZ)... Mac AND PC: The only way to fly 8-}
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From: Andy Hardwake <andyhardwake@mac.com>
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 at 11:51:00 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] advice -- what kind of new computer should i get ?
Message #229036
This is a reply to #229035.
On May 29, 2007, at 9:40 AM, George Leger III wrote: > Are you running an older computer, like a G4? If the cpu is slower, > this might account for the difference. Yup, dual MDD 867 here. The initial question was from a guy on a PB G4 1.6, so I thought he was in the same boat, so I posted the exact same settings I have here,.. Thanks again. Best, Andy
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From: Steven Rowat <steven_rowat@sunshine.net>
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 at 12:49:36 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: advice -- what kind of new computer should i get ?
Message #229038
This is a reply to #228991.
Hi George wrote: >Setting the process buffer to large causes lots of issues. Set to >small or medium, not large. Hmm. I have mine set to large. Can you be more specific about what sorts of issues it might be causing? Steven Rowat
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From: Martijn Hostetler <tijnybubbles@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 at 2:28:33 AM
Subject: Re: advice -- what kind of new computer should i get ?
Message #229078
This is a reply to #228995.
thanks for the advice. i have a 1.83GHz Core duo with 1.5 GB of RAM on loan right now..... when i monitor the CPU on system performance, i get very low readings in comparison to what i used to get. however when i have 6 tracks running i still get a coreaudio overload message.... even though from the CPU monitor it appears that all is well. maybe transferring over the RAM from my old powerbook and giving the new Macbook 2 GB of RAM would help ? i'm running 3 Ultrabeat tracks, 2 EVB3 tracks, and one ES2 track. is it possible to upgrade the processor on a macbook ? or i should just give up and finance a G5 desktop.....
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