Hello Logic Users, I have a question regarding the EXS24, or maybe it's a question regarding the Apple Loops Utility. I wanted to know if I can load apple loops into the EXS24 so that when I adjust the tempo of my song in the arrange window the samples in the EXS24 adjust with the tempo I set. In other words is there someway to load up tempo sensitive samples into the EXS? I know how to set the tempo markers and make the sample fit correctly individually in the song but I would like to be able to have it adjust in the EXS 24 so I can punch my midi keys and have the sample cruise with it. Sort of like how the MPC works with tempo adjustment. Thanks for any help and I hope this summer brings new creativity to all of us. Optic.

On 9 maj 2007, at 21.37, Eric Isenhart wrote: > I wanted to know if I can load apple loops into > the EXS24 so that when I adjust the tempo of my song in the arrange > window > the samples in the EXS24 adjust with the tempo I set. In other > words is > there someway to load up tempo sensitive samples into the EXS? You didn't say it, but I guess your question also is also about time stretching? The EXS24 can not do instant time stretching to match sample length to tempo and pitch changes. If you create an EXS24 instrument patch with Apple Loops these loops will work as ordinary samples inside the sampler. Meaning they loose their time stretching and pitch adjusting function as EXS24 samples. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases)

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Isenhart" <forums@...> wrote: > > Message posted by Eric Isenhart <bigstud110@...>: > > Hello Logic Users, > I have a question regarding the EXS24, or maybe it's a question regarding > the Apple Loops Utility. I wanted to know if I can load apple loops into > the EXS24 so that when I adjust the tempo of my song in the arrange window > the samples in the EXS24 adjust with the tempo I set. In other words is > there someway to load up tempo sensitive samples into the EXS? I know how > to set the tempo markers and make the sample fit correctly individually in > the song but I would like to be able to have it adjust in the EXS 24 so I > can punch my midi keys and have the sample cruise with it. Sort of like how > the MPC works with tempo adjustment. > Thanks for any help and I hope this summer brings new creativity to all of > us. > Optic. > Hi, I don't believe exs24 can do this for you directly, but there are some pretty cool ways of doing this, dependent on the type of apple loop you're using. Both of them use the 'touch tracks' object in the environment (back to my old friend again.) 1-If your desired apple loop is a 'midi' style (green icon in the loop browser) then its relatively straight forward. Go into the environment and create a new layer, in this new layer create an audio object and set it to an unused Audio Instrument channel. Next create a touch tracks object and wire the output of the TT object to the Audio Instrument (make sure the icon box is ticked on both). Crete corresponding tracks for the two objects in the arrange page. Now drag your green apple loop directly from the loop browser to the audio instrument track (if you drop a green loop onto an audio track first it will behave like an audio (blue) apple loop.) This should load up the relevant audio instrument track. Now open the TT object (in the environment) and drag the midi region (created when importing the loop) to the key you want to trigger it on the TT window. In this window you can set parameters like triggering mode and loop behavior (for details look in the Logic reference manual). Now mute the corresponding apple loop in the arrange page (using the mute tool). Now if you hit the key (you set the apple loop to in the TT window) with the TT track selected in the arrange page, it should play your apple loop, in time. You can set TTs to quantize the starting point (nearest 1/8th for example.) You can load multiple midi regions into the TT and if you set up your midi channels right (ie the regions channel and the audio instruments channel match) you can wire multiple Instruments to be controlled from one TT. 2-If its an audio only loop (blue) you'll need to chop it up somehow and then create a corresponding midi pattern that coincides with the start of each slice. This can be done manually using the scissors and then loading the slices into exs24, but there are a few apps that may help. You could try something like Phatmatik pro (now sold by isotope), which loads up the loop, chops it up and then exports the midi (corresponding to the slice positions) and then will play each slice via midi, so you can drag the midi file selected into TTs as above. There are some others that do this sort of thing, but i know that phatmatik works like this, you can now trigger the loops as above. The flexibility of logic's environment is where it really shines, as once you have set up the TT object you can use all kinds of midi effects to modulate and mess with your loop. Both of these may seem a little convoluted and if you've got the money and you do this a lot, then you might want to look at ableton live which kicks arse at this sort of thing, and you can re-wire it back into logic, so you can add effects and mix it as you would in logic. NB Logics sequencer must be running for TTs to work. Hope this helps, Mike

<quotes repositioned and trimmed by admin> > 1-If your desired apple loop is a 'midi' style (green icon in the > loop browser) then its > relatively straight forward. Go into the environment and create a > new layer, in this new > layer create an audio object and set it to an unused Audio > Instrument channel. Next create > a touch tracks object and wire the output of the TT object to the > Audio Instrument (make > sure the icon box is ticked on both). Crete corresponding tracks for > the two objects in the > arrange page. Now drag your green apple loop directly from the loop > browser to the audio > instrument track (if you drop a green loop onto an audio track first > it will behave like an > audio (blue) apple loop.) This should load up the relevant audio > instrument track. Wow! This is one of the most useful tips I've seen here in a long time : ) Thanks for dropping science on us all : ) Eddie Sullivan IMS Pro A/V The Stony Brook Technology Center 21 Technology Drive E . Setauket NY 11733 1800 344 6434 X 108 esullivan@imsproav.com AIM: esimsproav M-F 9-6

Thanks for the help Per. Much appreciated!

Hey Mike. Wow that is some great stuff. I've been learning how to use the environment and I don't know why I haven't learned more about it earlier. Thanks for the great info, I'm going to go step by step through your instructions and get back to you. I hope all is well, and thanks again. Eric