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From: "tdunn0412" <tdunn0412@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 at 10:19:14 PM
Subject: [LUG] Working with Drums.
Message #228156
I hope this isn't a silly question. I originally learned to work with multiple audio drum tracks, not one midi track with a drum performance. I'm using Ultra beat And i'm wondering if I can record an audio track for each drum sound from the performance. That way I can work with the audio of each track, work with reverbs, etc. Any tips out there?
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From: D_Gordon LUG <d.gordon3@terra.com.br>
Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 at 12:44:04 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Working with Drums.
Message #228159
This is a reply to #228156.
On 08/05/2007, at 00:19, tdunn0412 wrote: > I hope this isn't a silly question. I originally learned to work with > multiple audio drum tracks, not one midi track with a drum > performance. I'm using Ultra beat And i'm wondering if I can record > an audio track for each drum sound from the performance. That way I > can work with the audio of each track, work with reverbs, etc. Any > tips out there? Hi there. You don't need to convert individual instruments from Ultrabeat to apply them reverb, compressor, EQ, etc... Just use Logic's AUX tracks to receive output signals from distinct Ultrabeat instruments. Gordon
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From: "HKC" <hkc@surfpost.dk>
Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 at 3:00:08 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Working with Drums.
Message #228167
This is a reply to #228159.
On 08/05/2007, at 00:19, tdunn0412 wrote: > I hope this isn't a silly question. I originally learned to work with > multiple audio drum tracks, not one midi track with a drum > performance. I'm using Ultra beat And i'm wondering if I can record > an audio track for each drum sound from the performance. That way I > can work with the audio of each track, work with reverbs, etc. Any > tips out there? Gordon replied: Just use Logic's AUX tracks to receive output signals from distinct Ultrabeat instruments. And use the multi-instrument version instead of the stereo.
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From: Simon Bosley <simon_bosley@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 at 8:32:35 AM
Subject: Re: Working with Drums.
Message #231326
This is a reply to #228167.
"HKC" <hkc@surfpost.dk> wrote: > Just use Logic's AUX tracks to receive output signals from distinct > Ultrabeat instruments. > > > And use the multi-instrument version instead of the stereo. I've selected the multi-instrument version of Ultrabeat as I am wanting to manipulate seperate drums on individual aux tracks. For this example let's say we want to send the kick and snare to two aux tracks. Here is what I did... As I select the output of the kick and snare part in Ultrabeat I get a choice of tracks to send them to. These are called: 3-4, 5-6, 7-8, 9-10, 11-12, 13-14, 15-16. As each is stereo I sent the kick and snare both to output "3-4" (the first output available). I then fully panned the kick to the left and the snare to the right. I then created two aux tracks in Logic and set both with the input of track "3-4". One I panned to the left to get the kick drum and the other I panned to the right to get the snare drum. I labelled the aux tracks to make it clearer. Here are my questions: 1. Why is it grouped in stereo pairs? (Is this always the way for the Multi-Instrument version?) It would be nice to have one part per track, instead of having to pan parts. 2. Why do I only have the option of 7 tracks? This means I can't output all the parts in Ultrabeat to seperate tracks. (Although I could map several bass drums to the same track etc). 3. Why are the first two output tracks for main outputs? (This makes mapping it confusing as parts one and two in Ultrabeat will end up going to track 3-4 in Logic, in this case I would rather leave parts 1 and 2 blank).
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From: Jeffrey Curtis <napoleontrio@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 at 10:15:23 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Working with Drums.
Message #231328
This is a reply to #231326.
<quotes repositioned and trimmed, footers removed by admin> On Aug 7, 2007, at 6:32 AM, Simon Bosley wrote: > 1. Why is it grouped in stereo pairs? (Is this always the way for > the Multi-Instrument version?) > It would be nice to have one part per track, instead of having to > pan parts. > 2. Why do I only have the option of 7 tracks? This means I can't > output all the parts in Ultrabeat > to seperate tracks. (Although I could map several bass drums to the > same track etc). > 3. Why are the first two output tracks for main outputs? (This > makes mapping it confusing as parts one > and two in Ultrabeat will end up going to track 3-4 in Logic, in > this case I would rather leave parts 1 and 2 blank). I believe you can change your environment to accommodate more outputs and specify mono/stereo. Logic is very flexible in this way from what I can see. You may have to go into preferences or setup to allow for more outputs as well as I think there are default numbers for inputs, outputs and the various tracks, instruments etc. Good luck. Someone here may have an Ultrabeat environment that you can copy to allow you to do the things you are wanting to do. Ask around. fm
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From: Simon Bosley <simon_bosley@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 at 8:10:36 AM
Subject: Re: Working with Drums.
Message #231376
This is a reply to #231328.
> I believe you can change your environment to accommodate more > outputs and specify mono/stereo. Logic is very flexible in this way > from what I can see. You may have to go into preferences or setup to > allow for more outputs as well as I think there are default numbers > for inputs, outputs and the various tracks, instruments etc. Good luck. > Someone here may have an Ultrabeat environment that you can copy to > allow you to do the things you are wanting to do. Ask around. > > fm Despite what your hoping it seems you can't configure the amount of outputs from the Ultrabeat instrument. You can only route 7 voices to separate Stereo Aux tracks or 14 voices to separate Mono Aux tracks (using Panning). Having said that it should be more than enough for a decent drum beat. Most drum machines (like my Novation Drumstation MKII) don't even have this many individual outputs! Of course I could always run multiple Ultrabeat instruments thus allowing many more complex configurations :) Here is what the Logic Support page says on this subject: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=300900 According to the Logic Pro reference guide the aux channels will automatically add themselves as I use more. I think there is a maximum of 64 Aux channels for use which is fine, and this seems to work for me. SB.
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