Looks like there were some significant improvements from version 1 to version 2 based on the website... http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_multiface_2.php Anyone use both? Any real issues with the multiface I? Thanks, Thomas ------------------------------------

On 31/03/2008, at 1:42 PM, thomas b wrote: > Looks like there were some significant improvements from version 1 to > version 2 based on the website... > http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_multiface_2.php > > Anyone use both? Any real issues with the multiface I? The Multiface 1 has just about been the best piece of audio gear I've ever purchased. Rock solid and going strong after 6 years. Works beautifully with Logic. I think the main improvement in MF2 is better converters. The I/O spec is the same. Try asking at RME forum as well. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Paul Najar Jaminajar Music Production www.jaminajar.com ------------------------------------

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, rui da silva <ruipacheco@...> wrote: > you might want to give a test to this > > http://www.seventhstring.com/ > Thanks. I prefer the Amazing Slow Downer. The sound is much better when playing super slow. ------------------------------------

Hi, I installed Logic Studio on my iMac a few months ago. Jazz drum kit was missing, among others (like Soft Stevie 1). Luckily I had Logic 7.2 on my laptop - and copied the missing instruments. However, before I upgrade my 7.2 on my laptop, I want to make sure I have copied all 'missing' instruments and channel strips that the buggy installer didn't put on my "master" computer (the iMac). Is there a definitive list of instruments to look for that consistently do not copy/upgrade to Logic 8? If so, what are they? (channel strips also...) When is Apple going to fix the installer??!! Thanks! ------------------------------------

This is of interest to me, since I am considering the up-grade to Logic 8. I am curious to know how this is possible to have two versions of the same app running on one machine except when an application is simply placed into the apps folder rather than 'installed' with the automated installer utility. Is the Hard Drive partitioned with two separate operating systems and a dual boot option? Surely when you install Logic 8 is installed it overwrites or un- installs all files and folders of the previous version. In my experience if you afterwards try to re-install the previous version alongside the new it cannot be done. CE ------------------------------------

On Mar 30, 2008, at 9:50 PM, Paul Najar wrote: > The Multiface 1 has just about been the best piece of audio gear I've > ever purchased. Rock solid and going strong after 6 years. Works > beautifully with Logic. I think the main improvement in MF2 is better > converters. The I/O spec is the same. Try asking at RME forum as well. > > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > Paul Najar > Jaminajar Music Production > www.jaminajar.com I've also had the multiface one for several years and sold it about a year ago. It never gave me any problems but i moved to a protools HD rig for a bit and didn't use it.. Now i am running the apogee symphony setup.. But it definitely was solid, good quality, and i believe as said the converters are slightly better on the multiface 2. My friend still is running my old multiface and hasnt had any problems. Mark ------------------------------------

--- Maxim Milyutenko <miluten@gmail.com> wrote: > Here in Moscow data recovery services are quite > popular. I had an > issue with a german friend's fujitsu FW HD - it > crashed completely. > In Germany they said, no way to fix. Here all the > recovery guys are > working with PC - not a single one with Mac. But > they were > successful! They actually found out this is was a > mechanical damage > with the drive. They bought an identical drive, > replaced some parts, > and thus got the drive to be seen as a device under > Windows. There was a good article about this in a recent TapeOp issue. I'll see if i can find it. BTW TapeOp is a great, free mag. JP ------------------------------------

Hi, Is there a plugin for Logic which allows me to check the average RMS level of a sample? Thanks in advance, Paul -- Paul Zimmer ZAP! (Zimmer Audio Production) www.zimmeraudio.com ------------------------------------

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Paul Zimmer <paul@zimmeraudio.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a plugin for Logic which allows me to check the average RMS level > of a sample? > Thanks in advance, You can use Logic's Level Meter plug in - it can show you RMS values. Not sure what you mean by "average" though. You will have to guess a bit roughly, by your eye. For me Wave's PAZ plug in is more accurate. It has a hold function for RMS values and is better readable, over all. maxim ------------------------------------

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Zimmer" <paul@...> wrote: > > Hi, > > Is there a plugin for Logic which allows me to check the average RMS level > of a sample? > Thanks in advance, > > Paul > -- > Paul Zimmer > ZAP! (Zimmer Audio Production) > www.zimmeraudio.com > could try this, i use the xl version and it works well for me, http://www.rogernicholsdigital.com/inspector.html Mike ------------------------------------

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Zimmer" wrote: > > Hi, > >Is there a plugin for Logic which allows me to check the average RMS >level of a sample? >Thanks in advance, > > Paul Hey Paul, This is one of my my favorite plugins. http://www.sonalksis.com/index.php?section_id™ The Sonalksis FreeG, comes in assorted flavors, use it on both PC & Mac. howard ------------------------------------

> could try this, i use the xl version and it works well for me, > > http://www.rogernicholsdigital.com/inspector.html Why not Logic's built-in plugin? B. Alabay www.thetrial.de ------------------------------------

MusicGearfanatic@aol.com wrote: > My friend has a G5 and wants to buy logic. He asked if it is better to > use > his Focusrite Saffire as a soundcard, over the built in Apple audio > system? Most likely. The converters should be way better and the drivers should allow for lower latencies. But then, there's an option to only get an AD/DA converter and use the digital input of the onboard sound system (a quite affordable solution would be something like the Mindprint Trio). Still, I'm not sure about the drivers. I tested my Macbook's onboard soundcard and it's adding a whooping 13ms of latency in any case, regardless of your buffer settings. I sort of remember this to be less of an issue with older Macs, but as I never measured it I wouldn't take a bet, so the safest solution should be getting a dedicated audio card. - Sascha ------------------------------------

> Hi Windows Users: >   > I am at my wits end, and amthisclose to getting a MAC. I am using version 5.5.1 on a Pentium 4 with 2GB of RAM. I am basically having 2 main problems: > > 1.  I cannot use any of the VSTi plugins that use the UVI engine, so Plugsound Pro, Ethnos and  MachFive do not work. Something about too many outputs. I was able to get them to work by using EnergyXT, but that is buggy. >   > 2.  The second issue is that the program seems to be buggy in general. I can’t remember it ever being this buggy. I have every update for Windows XP Media Edition 2002, yet once I get halfway into a song, and completing it, it crashes. > > Can you let me know a little about your system, and how you are running Logic? I have the money for the MAC, but I’m trying to save from going that route. Eventually I will, but right now is not a good time, financially. Any suggestions would be helpful! > > Thanks > > Chaz > Is it possible that the plug-ins you are trying to use are causing the crash - they may simply be too much for the aged 5.5.1 and a PC with only a 2ghz processor? Also check your RAM is all working - if you have a stick out, that could mean inadequate resources for Logic and all the other plug-ins. I run 5.5 on a PC running Win2k - it is stable and surprisingly powerful, but I know it's limitations and avoid very up-to-date plug- ins or CPU hungry processes and I NEVER update anything once it works! I never felt 5.5.1 ran very well on XP and returned to Win2k very quickly - maybe you could try creating a dual-boot partition with Win2k on the second partition - it may be the simple answer - try it before going over to the impressive but over-priced mac-side... Joe Joe Public Studios ------------------------------------

"Paul Zimmer" <paul@zimmeraudio.com> wrote: > Is there a plugin for Logic which allows me to check > the average RMS level of a sample? Since Logic Pro 7, this is built in (as a plugin). The ChannelStrip's meters never allow this. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat> ------------------------------------

"Paul Zimmer" <paul@zimmeraudio.com> wrote: > Is there a plugin for Logic which allows me to check > the average RMS level of a sample? F-erenc, maxim, Mike, Howard and Basar, many thanks for all your advice on this, it's much appreciated. Paul -- Paul Zimmer ZAP! (Zimmer Audio Production) www.zimmeraudio.com ------------------------------------

Hey all, I just left the ProTools TDM world and am happily loving LOGIC 8 on an 8 CORE...but What is situation with the meters? Snare hits etc are obviously not synched with the meter jumps? tracking and playback?? Normal or not? Jack

On Mar 28, 2008, at 10:26 PM, rudy wrote: > Does anyone know if this will work with Logic Pro 7? Is there any > way to use > it with Ultrabeat? If so, how exactly? The Alesis is a MIDI device. Logic responds quite nicely to standard MIDI devices. Basically if you have an Ultrabeat track open, the Alesis plugged in and set up properly, you hit the Alesis - Ultrabeat will make a noise. It's not really much more complex than that... Eddie Sullivan IMS Pro A/V ------------------------------------

Hi, I transcribed a bebop jazz solo that is 32 measures long. I merged all regions, and quantized at 8/12 in the Score window (eight notes and eighth note triplets). At measure 21, I noticed I needed a couple of 16th notes. So, I used the scissors tool, and cut measure 21 and quantized it to 16. That measure was fixed! So now, the track in the Arrange window has a region from measures 1-20, a region that is measure 21, and another region from measure 22 - 32. Three regions. When I select all of them, and then go to Score window - I only see measures 1-20! Nothing afterwards. Now, I am sure the quantization and cut region has something to do with this. I have checked everywhere - I am sure this is a simple fix. What do I do to print out all 32 bars now that I messed with the quantization at measure 21? Thanks! ------------------------------------

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Colin Edwards <singing.colin@...> wrote: > > This is of interest to me, since I am considering the up-grade to > Logic 8. > > I am curious to know how this is possible to have two versions of the > same app running on one machine > except when an application is simply placed into the apps folder > rather than 'installed' with the automated installer utility. > > Is the Hard Drive partitioned with two separate operating systems and > a dual boot option? > > Surely when you install Logic 8 is installed it overwrites or un- > installs all files and folders of the previous version. > In my experience if you afterwards try to re-install the previous > version alongside the new it cannot be done. > > CE > I have Logic Express 7.2 and Logic Studio (8) installed on the same machine. I didn't do anything special during the install of Studio, just let the installer run, and it didn't overwrite my Logic 7 app. Logic 7 still run fine ... except I never use it anymore anyway. I mainly left it on my computer for any file emergencies that cropped up. So far so good. ------------------------------------

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Colin Edwards <singing.colin@...> wrote: > I am curious to know how this is possible to have two versions of the > same app running on one machine > except when an application is simply placed into the apps folder > rather than 'installed' with the automated installer utility. > > Is the Hard Drive partitioned with two separate operating systems and > a dual boot option? > > Surely when you install Logic 8 is installed it overwrites or un- > installs all files and folders of the previous version. CE, I've kept multiple versions of Logic for years. You simply make a copy of the app before you run an upgrade, which will find the default location in the "Applications" folder and update that one. It doesn't update any other copies you have (actually Logic used to ask you to choose which one to update, if it found more than one). I've felt very comfortable with different versions, mainly to run old legacy plug-ins that stopped working in later versions, and an ancient plug-in or two that only runs in Logic for OS 9. This is why I'm apprehensive about moving to L8 where you kind of have to start over in that regard and leave the past behind. I've considered just moving to L8 during the mixing/mastering phase, like some here, but so far you can't keep using the edited v.8 sessions in L6 or 7 should I need to. Part of the issue for me is that I'd have to upgrade two machines, and one is a 3-yr old PPC box, which some folks are saying run L8 sluggishly... Most of the feedback I'm seeing around the 'net is of the "dude, why would you ever want to go back - Logic 8 is so cool" variety. I'm not in favor of the 'all one way, or all of the other' approach, I'd like to be able to use them both, or use 8 on the Intel laptop and keep L7 on the PPC. I haven't been able to get any confirmation whether OMF works. I guess nobody ever uses that feature. In the end, whenever I go to v.8 I will probably have to just create a dummy session file in old versions of Logic when I need to, and use it as an outsource processor to run a file through and bounce the result. Really a bummer, though; I wish L8 could include a "save as Logic 7 file" command...it would make things so much easier. WP ------------------------------------

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "misterioso270" <misterioso270@...> wrote: > > Hi, > > I transcribed a bebop jazz solo that is 32 measures long. I merged > all regions, and quantized at 8/12 in the Score window (eight notes > and eighth note triplets). > > At measure 21, I noticed I needed a couple of 16th notes. So, I used > the scissors tool, and cut measure 21 and quantized it to 16. That > measure was fixed! So now, the track in the Arrange window has a > region from measures 1-20, a region that is measure 21, and another > region from measure 22 - 32. Three regions. > > When I select all of them, and then go to Score window - I only see > measures 1-20! Nothing afterwards. Now, I am sure the quantization > and cut region has something to do with this. I have checked > everywhere - I am sure this is a simple fix. What do I do to print > out all 32 bars now that I messed with the quantization at measure 21? > > Thanks! > You might need to go up a level in the score window. Use the up level button or just dbl- click in the background and all regions will be shown. Also check your Score Editor link icon. If it's grey it won't update to your arrange selections (which is sometimes good). Also in score preferences there are choices for hiding muted tracks and regions. This may apply to your situation. Doug ------------------------------------

You are actually in "page edit" unless you double click.? In score view, all of the regions should show up. Here's a suggestion:? When you only need to alter a few notes, i.e. those two sixteenths you were talking about... you can enter a Tuplet above the first note of that grouping, hide the bracket, hide the number.? To me, that's an easier way to do it, and you keep contiguous regions.? I personally don't like having to deal with multiple regions for one part unless it's absolutely necessary.? The tuplet thing is really easy. So... to solve your problem, make sure you are in score view, not page edit.? All regions will be visible. OR, go back and glue those regions together, use the tuplet tool to show your sixteenth notes. Multiple regions will NOT show up in Page View... Also, if you have other tracks in your sequence, you want to be sure to select "hide muted tracks" in song preferences, then mute all but the ONE track you want to print.? Open the score editor, make sure you are in print view, and score view...not just page view.? Hope that helps. ------------------------------------

On Mar 30, 2008, at 4:08 PM, jweisbin2 wrote: > > Thanks for this info. However, one thing still confuses me. Suppose > I copy one of these > projects from it's backup location to my desktop, which is on a > separate drive from my > project data. Then I open the project and get the message "The > file...can't be found..." I > then go and manually re-link each one that can't be found (I haven't > renamed them, just > re-linked them). Now I save the project. Then I copy that project > folder from my Desktop > to the projects drive (the one that had been freshly reformatted), > and delete it from my > Desktop Then I open the project from the new location - no error > messages. All the files > can be found. How can that be, if the information is tied to a > particular disk drive? Very good question! The point is: when you move the files to trash, the physical location of the files on disk doesn't change, and the files are actually not deleted yet... just moved aside in a "hidden" trash folder. So, guess what happens when you open the project from the 2nd drive (where you copied the project files)? Well, Logic can't find the long name (because it got truncated), and so it opens the audio files using the original disk platter location... and you are actually opening the old files inside the trash in the original disk, not the ones created on the new drive by the copy operation! As soon as you empty the trash and try to open the Project on the 2nd drive, the samples won't be found anymore in the trash, and neither on the 2nd drive, as expected. Really.... use short sample names (<31 characters suffix included), and you will be safe. Andrea Redmatica (note: I simplified a few things here about "disk platter location", just to spare you some technical details) ------------------------------------

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Andrea at Redmatica wrote: > >On Mar 30, 2008, at 11:55 AM, pancenter wrote: > >>While it's true, Logic does have a filename limit, evidently these >>projects were working before and without problems. So, could it be >>Finder's copy command, or was one of the disks formatted >>incorrectly? >The problem is not in the finder or in the disk. > >When you use long sample/audio filenames in Logic, there's no space >for the complete name to be stored, so the name is shortened, and >the strange "#123456" thing that is appended to the name is the >physical location on disk of the file. <snip-snip> Andrea, thanks for the correction and the info, great stuff! This also explains another problem that has cropped up on the list from time to time. Logic loading only partial snippets of audio files after the disk has been defragged. If long filenames were present defragging will leave you only with parts of the original files, correct? Sometimes the files will play for a few seconds then turn into white noise or a single file will be a combination of two or three unrelated audio files. best Howard you ------------------------------------