On Feb 29, 2008, at 7:48 AM, Andrew Hunt wrote: > > Is the sound quality of the Duet equal to the Ensemble, but limited > to 2 inputs, or is the Ensemble higher quality overall in addition to > having more inputs? Dunno, never tested them side-by-side. All I can say is the Duet has the same warm (I'd call it analog warm) and smooth sound as my Ensemble. Speaking of the latter, it has a decent clock generator (tested by syncing my samplers and other digital equipment to it) and the warmth is achieved by boosting 80 - 100 Hz a dB or 2 and very very slightly (around -0.5 dB) cutting the 3 k range. Best, Andy

On Feb 29, 2008, at 8:26 AM, Erik Häusler wrote: > > I´d like to transfer them to L8 on my Macbook pro. Is it in the same > location or is it better to export them from inside L7? > Kind regards Won't work AFAIR. Best, Andy

Hi All, I'm trying to install SonicCouture's lovely HangDrum kontakt instrument. Where do I place the .nki files? The samples can go anywhere of my choosing, I imagine? thanks, Judith Gruber-Stitzer film composer Montreal www.gruberstitzer.com

On Feb 28, 2008, at 11:20 PM, Simon James wrote: > Phew. I booted with cmnd + s and it says that I have a TI (texas > instr) chipset and not the Agere. I think the agere wasn't even > recognizing the interfaces. The lack of power I'm having might be a > different thing as I don't have the Agere chip. There are separate issues here that I think are getting mixed up. The Agere issue has to do with some types of interface not being recognized when plugged in. The general, chipset-independent issue that has been with us for a long time, is that the firewire supplies on Mac laptops can't handle the inrush current on some bus-powered interfaces when you first plug them in--the power supply shuts down due to overcurrent. This is the case with the Metric Halo interfaces, among others. Apparently Apple changed the power specs at some point. These interfaces will often work fine if you "bootstrap" them with external power, which is somewhat inconvenient, though the MH interfaces can be booted with a couple of 9V batteries. If nothing lights up, you're seeing the second problem, not the first. --Dave

> Yesterday I saw the following message diplayed by LP8.0.1 on a Mac > Book (running Tiger) everytime you tried to bounce a project: > > " Logic has detected a possible conflict between one or more third > party midi or audio drivers" > > The thing is: there are no third party drives installed on that > machine. I've got myself this message one or twice. I can't figure out > if it is a bug or a conflict with another application or any third > party software installed on OS X. > > any ideas? > > best > > Marcio > > Marcio Nigro > www.marcionigro.com.br Since yesterday I have the same problem, that's weird. -- Dioni Fernandez 809 683 1487 (Estudio) 809 543 5091 (Celular) Santo Domingo, Rep. Dom.

> Yah, that's a pickle, eh? This machine was a replacement for my 1st > gen Macbook Pro that worked fine. So, I'm happy for the newer one > but argh. I will count my blessings that I can see my interface but > just have the power thing. There are suggestions about using a > powerpack (don't know how big it would be) or just getting the > interface started via ac power then all good and portable after > that. That really sucks that you can't even see the interface. That > would make me crazy. Yah, hopefully, the power output can be adapted > by software changes. We will > see. Simon > Simon James www.vicmassage.com

I did indeed wonder that myself, whether Logic actually saves each plug-ins actual settings, or just matches names. Thinking about it, one must assume it should be the former, as surely any changes made to the preset, when Logic was re-booted, would be reset. For example, I put on Space Designer, with the On Stage Drums preset (my fave); but change the reverb time. If Logic simply saves the fact that I used "On Stage Drums", but does not save data from the Space Designer plug-in, when I rebooted Logic it would theoretically reset the plug-in to the saved preset, which would change my reverb time. I've never seen it do that; therefore, coming to think of it, it must save the actual settings of the plugin. Any thoughts? Dave

I don't think I'm stupid. I am 49 and have a strong engineer background; But LOGIC is absolutely incomprehenseible as MIDI recording is concern !!!! I have an exetrnal XV 2020 that is no use as I can"t bounce any project using it; I have a Logic 8 with Presonus Firebox interface and frankly it is written nowhere in the user manual how to bounce midi tracks. Some of you have answsred in a manner that no human can understad ( saying we have to Re-assign a midi track to audio something which does not mean anything, amidi track HAS to be recorded as MIDI and NOT audio , otherwise what" the point of having MIDI tracks ? The other solution which uses setting up environments in Logic defies human Logic. So I'm ok to just create music with EXS and other VST but frankly it is unacceptable that nowhere in the manual it is written how to record - because what's the point of recording MIDI if you can't bounce it ? - MIDI instruments ? If someone feels I'm a complete moron to ask, fine say it, but after TWO years of Logic 7 and now 8 I feel depressed to be unable to use by externaml Expander. thanks if someone understand the question.

Judith wrote: > I'm trying to install SonicCouture's lovely HangDrum kontakt > instrument. Where do I place the .nki files? The samples can go > anywhere of my choosing, I imagine? Wherever you want, I for one put them next to the respective sample folders. Best, Andy

> LOGIC is absolutely incomprehenseible as MIDI recording is concern !!!! You have to record your MIDI instruments to audio (either the whole mix or preferably track-by-track so you can edit them separately). Best, Andy

john doe <lyta@free.fr> wrote: > I don't think I'm stupid. I am 49 and have a strong engineer background; But > LOGIC is absolutely incomprehenseible as MIDI recording is concern !!!! > I have an exetrnal XV 2020 that is no use as I can"t bounce any project > using it; I have a Logic 8 with Presonus Firebox interface and frankly it is > written nowhere in the user manual how to bounce midi tracks. Perhaps because there is a big question mark regarding the sense of the phrase "bounce Midi tracks". > Some of you have answsred in a manner that no human can understad ( saying > we have to Re-assign a midi track to audio something which does not mean > anything, amidi track HAS to be recorded as MIDI and NOT audio , otherwise > what" the point of having MIDI tracks ? Remember that the purpose of Midi tracks is to record/playback note and other information used to control some sound generating devices such as your XV 2020. Midi is not audio! Ask yourself these questions - when you have recorded Midi into logic, you use it to play back the sound in the XV, right? How do you hear those sounds? Do you have two cables connecting the audio outputs of that device through a mixing console to which a pair of speakers are connected? If so, then hopefully you can realise that the audio you are hearing is going nowhere near logic, and as such you are not giving logic anything it can bounce. Fortunately, the solution is relatively straightforward. Plug those cables into two firebox line audio inputs. Set up a stereo audio channel in logic as an input channel, the input has to be set to the corresponding firebox channels. I don't have a firebox so cannot go into any great detail here, but it really shoudn't be difficult, providing you have grasped the concept of midi data and audio being two seperate entities. Once you see that signal flowing into logic, there is the stuff you need to bounce. I would for the sake of simplicity suggest simply recording this as audio. Take some time to go through the Logic Pro getting started manual - there is a fairly decent explanation of audio and midi in Appendix A. > > The other solution which uses setting up environments in Logic defies human > Logic. You really shouldn't have to worry about getting involved with the environment for something this basic whne using logic 8. > So I'm ok to just create music with EXS and other VST but frankly it > is unacceptable that nowhere in the manual it is written how to record - > because what's the point of recording MIDI if you can't bounce it ? - MIDI > instruments Of course, you can bounce internal VIs such as the EXS 24, because they use a Midi recording to generate an audio signal. > If someone feels I'm a complete moron to ask, fine say it, but after TWO > years of Logic 7 and now 8 I feel depressed to be unable to use by externaml > Expander. Not at all. It seems that there are just one or two concepts you need to grasp, after that you should be flying. kind regards Mark Cahill

Hi Folks, I'm about to order a new 8-core Mac Pro, and I wonder if anyone can give me a definitive answer to this: Would Logic's graphics performance (esp. screen redraws) benefit from a better-than-stock video card? The stock card has 256 MB RAM, but there's an option for a 512 MB card for not much more. My understanding is that the only people to really benefit from the upgrade are gamers or folks using 3D graphics apps. Or put another way, is any of Logic's GUI offloaded to the video card? I'm considering upgrading to a pair of 30" displays, and that's an awful lot of pixels to refresh when changing screensets. If I'm gonna drop the $$$, I want the fastest graphics performance I can get. Thanks! Jim Daneker www.whinecellarstudio.com

Hi Jim, > Would Logic's graphics performance (esp. screen redraws) benefit from a better-than-stock > video card? Probably a tiny bit, but is it really worth the extra $$$? I have a quad 2.66 with a 256 MB NVidia 7300 and I am happy with the performance it provides. New octocore macs have even better cards as standard and all of them are capable of handling 2 30" displays, so IMHO you don't need a more expensive card unless you're going to do video or 3D design. Just MMHO. Best, Andy

>I owned all the Plugsound CDs for years but had to upgrade to Pro for >MacIntel on Logic 8. >To be honest if you check www.ultimatesoundbank.com they are just >about giving them away at the moment. The upgrade path is ludicrously >cheap!! Highly recommended for "grunt" work. Also the replacement for >UltraFocus is fantastic. All the same sounds in a different "engine". >Cheers >Clive Young Has anyone used these? Checked out the videos and sounds, and it's almost too good to be true. Feasible on a MBP 2.33 with 3 gigs of RAM? Thanks for any feedback - I never even heard of this product before, I confess. Is it working well with Logic 8 following your upgrade, Clive? OT, has anyone used it with ProTools or Garage Band? I'm still exploring the website but am extremely impressed. Bobbo -- Artwork and portraiture: http://www.bobbogoldberg.com Voice over, narration and audio production: http://www.bob-vo.com And don't forget to do good works for free at http://www.thehungersite.com

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "john doe" wrote: >I have an exetrnal XV 2020 that is no use as I can"t bounce any >project using it; I have a Logic 8 with Presonus Firebox interface >and frankly it is written nowhere in the user manual how to bounce >midi tracks. Right, since MIDI is only data you need to get the audio output of your external modules into Logic. Easiest method is to plug the stereo outputs of the module into a pair of inputs on your audio card/device/interface, arm two mono record tracks and then play the MIDI tracks while Logic records the audio output. After recording don't forget to set the pans full left/right so you have stereo playback. The other way is to plug your module audio outputs into your audio device inputs and use the utility plugin "I/O" as an "insert" on an audio track. The I/O plug allows you send your audio card's input/output to the track. This way allowa a real-time bounce of your external module. Howard

> you don't need a more expensive card unless you're going to do video or 3D design. Thanks Andy, that's exactlly the question I'm asking. To further clarify, I know the new stock cards will handle a pair of 30" panels, but has anyone actually seen Logic 8 running on a setup like that? On my current G5 rig, it takes over 2 seconds (!) to change some of my screensets, and that's with a pair of 22" panels (each at 1600 x 1200). That may not sound like much, but add it up over the course of a day, and it's aggravating. Guess I'm a productivity hog - I'd love nothing less than 3 massive displays with lightning- fast response. One big Arrange in the middle, mixer on one side, editor on the other... A man can dream ;-)

Open Help/Logic Pro User manual Go to p. 246. The part you're interested in starts with the "Processing External MIDI Instruments With Effects" header. This explains one way to record/bounce external MIDI stuff as audio. One thing: this will only work in real time bounces, as is clearly stated. Quite clear to this 48 year old. I'm using a slightly different method myself from the 'old' days, but this is easier I think. Best, Zip

> Hi All, > I'm trying to install SonicCouture's lovely HangDrum kontakt > instrument. Where do I place the .nki files? The samples can go > anywhere of my choosing, I imagine? > > thanks, > > Judith Gruber-Stitzer > film composer > Montreal HI Judith, Those .nki files are for the Native Instruments Kontakt sampler. (unless you have Kontakt, they wont work with Logic's EXS). From memory, there was an EXS version of that instrument. I could well be wrong about that. Best Regards, Matt Audio - Music - Post Production Web: mattrixx.net - Australia 0416 197 883 Snail Mail: PO Box 10395, Adelaide, South Australia. 5000 iCHATav: mattrixx@mac.com Email: matt@mattrixx.net

> I don't think I'm stupid. I am 49 and have a strong engineer > background; But > LOGIC is absolutely incomprehenseible as MIDI recording is > concern !!!! > I have an exetrnal XV 2020 that is no use as I can"t bounce any > project > using it; I have a Logic 8 with Presonus Firebox interface and > frankly it is > written nowhere in the user manual how to bounce midi tracks. > > ....edited.... > > If someone feels I'm a complete moron to ask, fine say it, but after > TWO > years of Logic 7 and now 8 I feel depressed to be unable to use by > externaml > Expander. > > thanks if someone understand the question. Just record your midi parts to audio tracks and then you can offline bounce the lot. Ot simply use realtime bounce which will include the midi and any other external audio. Best Regards, Matt Audio - Music - Post Production Web: mattrixx.net - Australia 0416 197 883 Snail Mail: PO Box 10395, Adelaide, South Australia. 5000 iCHATav: mattrixx@mac.com Email: matt@mattrixx.net

Just installed 8.01. Where do I find the system performance meter that was in version7?

Hello! This may seem like a pathetically simple question but here it goes: I'm only using a very basic system with an Mbox and Logic Express(7.0.1).(yes I will upgrade soon to the full version since now it's so cheap!). Up until now I've mainly been recording midi instruments with a few vocal overdubs. I would run the buffer very low and found the timing excellent.(low latency) But lately I've been recording the driest most sparse acoustic guitars imaginable and I seem to be having delay or timing issues. After banging my head against the wall for 3 days trying every combination/setup possible, I've started wondering about the mute button?? If it's on(muted) during tracking do I "lose" the direct input signal and end up listening to a slightly delayed version? (I'm not running any software and have the software monitoring switched off). Or a simpler way of putting this. Should I have the mute button on while I track? Through trial and error, it seems that at least when I overdub a 2nd guitar, I encounter some sort of a latency delay if I have the track in the arrange window muted. Any help to clear this up would very appreciated. I've looked through the manual and found nothing on this most basic of subjects. thanks for any help "out there"... richard

On sexta-feira 29/02/2008, at 18:21, tomjswift wrote: > Just installed 8.01. Where do I find the system performance meter > that was in version7? Couldn't be easier. Double click the little performance meter on the Transport.

On 2/29/08 1:21 PM, "tomjswift" <tomswift1@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > Just installed 8.01. Where do I find the system performance meter that was in > version7? > > They have added it to the transport bar ­ you don¹t have to open a menu now. It¹s pretty small... Blair -- blairfisher@shaw.ca

On Feb 29, 2008, at 12:19 PM, James Daneker wrote: > Thanks Andy, that's exactlly the question I'm asking. To further > clarify, I know the new stock > cards will handle a pair of 30" panels, but has anyone actually seen > Logic 8 running on a > setup like that? On my current G5 rig, it takes over 2 seconds (!) > to change some of my > screensets, and that's with a pair of 22" panels (each at 1600 x > 1200). That may not sound > like much, but add it up over the course of a day, and it's > aggravating. For what it's worth, I'm using Logic 8 with dual 23's on a 3GHz octocore with the stock video card and see no video performance problems whatsoever. --Dave

Posted by: "Steve Hillier" steve@stevehillier.net stevehillier2002 Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:14 am (PST) > Hail Logicians. > > I asked this question a few weeks ago but got no responses, so here¹s > another try: > > How much RAM can Logic 8 on Mac OS X 10.5.2 address? Roughly 3GB, but EXS and a couple of new plug-ins can access all the RAM you have installed. > My problem is Logic seems to max out at just under 2GB, causing > difficulties > loading RAM intensive plug-ins such as BFD. It shouldn't. > Anyone know the answer? > > My vitals: > > Logic 8.0.1 > Mac OS X 10.5.2 > 6GB RAM > MacPro (early 2008) I access close to 3GB on a 2x2.5 G5. Something isn't working right. Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher Virtual Instruments Magazine www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496) +1818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434