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From: adrian@zarathustra.u-net.com
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 at 11:36:00 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [LAW] HELP!!!!!!!! Can anyone help me get 5.5.1 working with vista HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message #237451
James Young <DJCarterJames@hotmail.com> wrote: > I was using XP for the longest time and lost logic when i switched over to > vista. > My only choice now seems to be to wipe my whole HD and start over with XP is > there a patch or something Anything Been thinking about Vista myself but something told me I'd be painting a great big target on my rear-end for the devil to aim at... Assuming by "lost" you mean Logic doesn't work in Vista, you're not running the 64 Bit version of Vista are you? Are all your drivers Vista compatible and can you run other audio software okay? What exactly happens when you try to launch Logic? If there's a 'Compatibility Wizard' in Vista like there is in XP (to run programs that were written specifically for an earlier version of Windows) you could try that. Logic on Windows only just made it into the XP era. I'd set up a dual boot configuration if I were you and stick XP and Logic back on - 'If it ain't broke etc.,' - then you'd still be able to run Vista. Make sure you have a partition (or another drive) visible to both operating systems so you can share files between them. ___ Ade
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From: Edwin <edwin@indra.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 at 11:41:56 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Input Monitor / Auto input monitor
Message #237452
This is a reply to #237396.
>--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Bob DeMaa <bobdemaa@...> wrote: >> >>OK, I'm putting on the dunce hat, but I need to know if this is >>broken, or if there is something I'm missing because its not acting >>like any recording channel I've ever used. > At 11:07 AM +0000 12/28/07, pancenter wrote: >Normal behavior. > >The "I" input monitor is for monitoring input, input w/fx...etc >without having to drop the track into record mode. > >Recording over the existing part does mute the output when the >sequencer is running in record mode. > >Also, using the "punch on the fly" key command drops the track >in/out of record and mutes the output. Using punch on the fly in >conjunction with the undo key command makes for fairly painless >overdubs. That seems nuts to me. I like to mix to two tracks via bus and if I want to go back and do it again and compare to the mix that I already have, being able to monitor input is extremely valuable. If it says input, I want "input" and not "what's on the track unless I am recording" (not quoting you, just trying to be clearer). That should be a different function called auto-input. To get around this, should I just create a new track to record to and go back and forth to it and the original track to compare? Am I understanding this wrong? TIA Edwin -- Edwin Hurwitz Boulder CO http://www.indra.com/~edwin http://www.cafemontalban.com Location Recording Services
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From: Andy Hardwake <andyhardwake@mac.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 at 1:34:42 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] New Computer - advice needed
Message #237453
This is a reply to #237450.
Hi, On Dec 30, 2007, at 8:41 AM, mm123 ah wrote: > > MONITORS & VIDEO CARD?: IMMHO one 30" monitor is a much better option then 2 23" ones. Anyway, your video card allows you to plug 2 monitors (one 30" and another one up to 23") right off the box. > > MIDI INTERFACES: Just for the record my battery of Unitor/AMT8s is still working perfectly. > > MIDI / KNOB CONTROLLER: Maybe an overkill for your kind of work, but I'm absolutely happy with my Mackie Control Universal. I'm sure others will chime in with more info on less expensive controllers. > > HARD DRIVES: You will definitely need at least one more drive. I made a mistake and bought a 750 GB drive (actually 3 of them -- one for OS, other for samples and the other for backups) and they are slow as hell. Get a 500 GB one for OS and (possibly) another one for samples, use the one supplied with the machine for recording as it will be the fastest in the setup. > > RAM: Get at least 2 more gigs just for a start. I have 3 in mine and I am about to upgrade (I'm curious to know the consensus on this as well). > > AUDIO INTERFACES: To me it's Metric Halo or RME or Apogee, provided you need decent sound quality. > > > XSKEY/DONGLE: 7.x is no longer available and those who upgraded to 8 will need the XSKey while installing any update, so I really doubt you'll be able to get one... Best, Andy
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From: "Gareth Jones" <yahoolist@garethjones.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 at 2:03:04 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Most limiting performance factor? (was: best mac pro at the moment?)
Message #237454
This is a reply to #237448.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "kschreiner" <groups@...> wrote: > First, I'm jealous - VERY jealous. I have to say that I was flabbergasted by > what your computer can handle, Jody and it left me wondering if Gareth can > provide some kind of comparative results for his 8 core Mac. Have you a gut > feel for how much faster your 8 core is than your dual core G5, Gareth? errr - a lot :-) > > One thing is clear, the 8 core Macs run circles around my iMac G5 and it is > CPU, not RAM, that seems to be the limiting factor in my G5 even though I > only have 1 GB of RAM. 1GB RAM is just not enough (- I always pack my machines with RAM) You will get much better results with more RAM. My hard drive also does not seem to be a limiting > factor. My graphics GPU might be a limiting factor to a small degree - but > only for perceived performance - e.g. moving around in the arrange window. > > What do others on this list find to be the most limiting factor in their > work? > > CPU? Memory? Hard drive speed? GPU? > > Kamm >
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From: Robert Wilson <piesandwhisky@btinternet.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 at 12:21:37 PM
Subject: [LUG] Logic not recognising M-Audio ozone
Message #237455
Hi folks, Anyone managed to get an M-Audio Ozone working with L8 and an intel Mac? I've switched over from iBook G4 (where it worked perfectly) to Macbook Intel and my M-Audio Ozone interface is no longer recognised. I installed the driver that came with the unit and Logic could process audio but not MIDI. I tried to access the driver in system prefs and got the message 'does not work on Intel', so I went to the M-audio site and downloaded what was supposed to be the Intel Mac update. Upon first installation and restart it also recognises audio but not MIDI. Any subsequent reboot results in it not working at all. System prefs tells me the unit is not connected. I've reverted to the PPC driver for now so I can at least record audio. I contacted M-audio tech support the other day but don't expect to hear back from them any time soon. Any ideas?
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From: jimminy bob <iq187@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 at 10:53:00 AM
Subject: Re: firewire 410 problems with mac os x 10.4.9
Message #237456
This is a reply to #237446.
thanks andrew i had a look and firewire is not set as an option.. i even added it and then removed it to be sure. i think the next step is to contact tech support for m-audio and see if they can suggest anything. thanks again.
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From: vince sambrook <vincesambrook@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 at 12:41:28 PM
Subject: kaoss pad 3
Message #237457
hi,can anyone tell me how i can use my kaoss pad to effect my songs in logic,i can use the pad as the sound comes out of my mixer and through the speakers but i cant record it as i bounce my songs.i have a delta 4/10 soundcard and i think that maybe the kaoss pad needs to go through the soundcard before it goes through the mixer.any ideas? many thanks,vince
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From: Larry Schwartz <larry@sleepingcrow.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 at 1:06:00 PM
Subject: Automation as List?
Message #237458
Is it possible to view Automation information as a List, such as with MIDI/Hyperdraw information? Thanks.
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From: Phil <prdavis48@mac.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 at 1:13:18 PM
Subject: Digi Core Audio and Logic 8
Message #237459
I'm a newbie, so please excuse lack of knowledge and direction. I have an Mbox and PT 7.3 and just switched to Logic Studio (i've had logic Express 7 Academic for a year or which I ran in parallel. So far I love the program, but system crashes and blows out my ears unless I restart Mbox. turn off screensaver, etc.. I'm guessing this is a Digi Core Audio issue, because I've experienced this before pre-Logic. Is there a fix for this, or do I need to dump everything Digi or go with Digi Core Audio stand alone?
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From: Marlon Rios <zanganomusic@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 at 2:38:22 PM
Subject: Re: firewire 410 problems with mac os x 10.4.9
Message #237460
This is a reply to #237428.
I had the same problem for months and had given up hope unitl this morning. There are two firewire inputs behind the 410. I simply switched the cable to the left input and my computer immediately started recognizing the device and updating firmware. I hope this will help you.
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From: Marlon Rios <zanganomusic@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 at 3:19:44 PM
Subject: Firewire 410
Message #237461
Hello everyone, I finally got my computer to recognize M-Audio's 410. I have a couple questions: 1) I can no longer control the volume from my keyboard. It was nice leaving my amplifier at a relatively high level and adjusting volume with keyboard. Is this ability lost with the 410? 2) Is it normal for the blue LED light to blink when the 410 is off? Thanks.
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From: =?UTF-8?Q?BaÅŸar_Alabay?= <zodiakom@gmx.net>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 at 5:16:12 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Most limiting performance factor? (was: best mac pro at the moment?)
Message #237462
This is a reply to #237448.
> CPU? Memory? Hard drive speed? GPU? I guess, if, limiting is the harddrive, though SATA2. Pro 2x2,66. B. Alabay . www.thetrial.de
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From: "simondynamitecomau" <simon.wheaton@cit.act.edu.au>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 at 5:18:45 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Digi Core Audio and Logic 8
Message #237463
This is a reply to #237459.
> Message posted by Phil <prdavis48@...>: > I'm a newbie, so please excuse lack of knowledge and direction. I have an > Mbox and PT 7.3 and just switched to Logic Studio (i've had logic Express 7 > Academic for a year or which I ran in parallel. So far I love the program, > but system crashes and blows out my ears unless I restart Mbox. turn off > screensaver, etc.. I'm guessing this is a Digi Core Audio issue, because > I've experienced this before pre-Logic. Is there a fix for this, or do I > need to dump everything Digi or go with Digi Core Audio stand alone? http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?navidT&langid=1&itemid$612 'Random White Noise Bursts When Using Mbox January 31, 2007 For original Mbox on Mac OS X (PowerPC or Intel-based) and Windows XP. Not for use with Mbox 2, Mbox 2 Pro, or Mbox 2 Mini. Mbox Firmware v22 includes the following fix: Fixed: Random White Noise Bursts When Using Mbox (Item #74553) This issue has been reported on PowerPC and Intel-based Macs when using Pro Tools LE or Digidesign CoreAudio with the original Mbox.'
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From: =?UTF-8?Q?BaÅŸar_Alabay?= <zodiakom@gmx.net>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 at 5:18:39 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Automation as List?
Message #237464
This is a reply to #237458.
> Is it possible to view Automation information as a List, such as with > MIDI/Hyperdraw information? Yes. But it is a bit "hidden", due to it has no menu item. You have to look for it in the key commands, there you can assign an own command (Version 7.2.3). B. Alabay . www.thetrial.de
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From: Evan Benjamin <evanbenjamin@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 at 8:35:02 PM
Subject: [LUG] DTDM and Logic 8
Message #237465
I am having a very difficult time with recurrent crashes on my TDM setup. I have been using Logic 7 with DTDM with no problems. After upgrading to 8, I had a day of the same. Then I upgraded to 8.0.1. At that point, starting up the app gets a "quit unexpectedly" message right when the screen gets to the DTDM message. I can boot up without audio drivers just fine, and I can boot up with TDM on, just fine. Just not DTDM. And I can't use Core Audio right now, as I don't have an interface to send it back into PT. But Core Audio seems to crash the computer the same way, if I enable it. Here is what I have done: 1) I have confirmed the crash happens on a test account, in the same way. 2) I have checked the startup drive with Disk warrior. Only minor problems found. 3) Reinstalled 8.0.0 from DVD, after trashing all receipts. 4) Reinstalled DTDM driver separately. This got Logic to boot up with TDM and DTDM enabled...ONCE. I could not replicate this. On the next bootup I got "quit unexpectedly" again. 5) Trashed any preference I could think of with even a peripheral connection to the issue. But again, since the test account crashes as well, that rules out my account. I have called Apple support twice. They were really of no help. Does anyone have any thoughts? I have spent the entire day with this, and am really out of ideas. And one last thought...PT 7.4 boots up just fine and works just fine, so I assume I'm not having a hardware issue. My only possibility now is that I should downgrade my OS to 10.4.9, as I've seen anecdotal reports of this being the key. Thanks in advance for any and all thoughts. G5 10.4.11 4G Ram PT 7.4 HD3 -Evan Benjamin
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From: "joemariani2006" <joemariani2006@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 at 9:14:51 PM
Subject: [LUG] [LAW] midi problems with logic 5.5.1 on windows XP
Message #237466
I am having a midi interupt problem that crops up occansionally with windows XP, using dell 6000 inspiron. Seemingly for no reason in the middle of a song, the midi output will be interupted and all notes will hang over until reset. Have tried using different enviroments. It happens whether there is one song in memory or many songs in memory. Have used two different midi interfaces, emagic mt4, and also an edirol interface. If anyone out there has similar problems please contact me. Problem doesn't occur all the time, but is more of an inconvience; especially when using logic live. If someone could reach me regarding this message, please call me at your convenience, @ 484-620-1122, thank you for time in this matter.
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From: Dave Shirk <dave@pamlicosounds.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 at 10:19:40 PM
Subject: [LUG] Waves and Leopard
Message #237467
Does anyone have any 'inside' information on when Waves will start supporting Leopard? I am still stuck with one machine with Leopard and Logic 8 which is unusable in our environment because of the heavy use of the Waves L3. Any insight would be appreciated. Dave Shirk Pamlico Sounds
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From: "Jason Staczek" <jason@chromasound.net>
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 at 2:19:08 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] To users of Logic, Digital Performer and Pro Tools
Message #237468
This is a reply to #237444.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, dennis gunn <dennis@...> wrote: > > > On Dec 30, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Jason Staczek wrote: > > > If you fall into this category, please take a look at > > www.dawstuff.com. It's my attempt to start a searchable database of > > information about all three DAWs in one place. Anyone can contribute. > > If you find yourself bouncing between Unicornation, the Logic Users > > Groups and the Digidesign User Conference, please have a look. > > Great idea. > > Just at a glance right off the bat I notice something that is listed > as not possible in logic that is actually possible. > > Under "editing and selection" > > Constrain to current time when moving or copying is listed as a "no" > for logic. > > https://dawstuff.dabbledb.com/page/dawstuff/EwMbZHmG? > entry‘9&embed=true&digestI347810528530825270179909182286330878831896 > 2139 > > It is possible to limit dragging to one direction in the logic > preferences which has the effect of constraining the selected event > to the current time if you drag or drag copy vertically so unless I > misunderstand it would seem that that particular function would have > to be listed as a "yes" for logic. > Thanks, Dennis. That's the kind of information I hoped would come out. I wasn't able to find that information in the manual myself--searching for the wrong term, probably. I've gone ahead and made the change, but I encourage you to edit directly in the future. Anyone can edit those entries. Thanks for the information. Jason
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From: grove@zeta.org.au
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 at 5:38:05 AM
Subject: [LUG] extremely frustrating patch change problem
Message #237469
Hi, Please help! I have Logic 6.4.3. I have a project I have setup. On one track, I have my synth (a JP6 europa) with patch change enabled. It changes patches just fine, but it has somehow started getting an unwanted patch change that is extremely annoying since it is an empty track I am trying to record. So I set Patch "8" with Logic stopped and in the -4 before the track starts. As soon as I start Logic, this track changed from patch "8" to patch "36", a completely different patch. I do not seem to be able to change this in the event list. I seem to recall there was a way to stop this, but I cannot remember how. Can someone please tell me how to resolve this extremely frustrating and creativity destroying problem before I run screaming into the night? I just wanna play patch 8 on my Europa and when I hit the start button, it plays patch 8, not patch 36. rachel -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia grove@zeta.org.au http://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html The price of greatness is responsibility.
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From: adrian@zarathustra.u-net.com
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 at 6:24:53 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: midi problems with logic 5.5.1 on windows XP
Message #237470
This is a reply to #237466.
joemariani2006 writes: > I am having a midi interupt problem that crops up occansionally with > windows XP, using dell 6000 inspiron. Seemingly for no reason in the > middle of a song, the midi output will be interupted and all notes will > hang over until reset. Could be lots of things, for starters though, this thread might help: http://logic-users.org/forums/LUG/thread/86976#185957 ___ Ade
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From: Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca>
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 at 9:05:51 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: To users of Logic, Digital Performer and Pro Tools
Message #237471
Hi Jason, > If you fall into this category, please take a look at > www.dawstuff.com. It's my attempt to start a searchable database of > information about all three DAWs in one place. Anyone can contribute. > If you find yourself bouncing between Unicornation, the Logic Users > Groups and the Digidesign User Conference, please have a look. Spotted another little inconsistency: You have indicated "no" for "automatically create new bus at first use". In Logic 8, a new aux with the bus set as the input is automatically created when assigning a send to a bus for the first time. -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.elikrantzberg.com http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com
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From: Robert Wilson <piesandwhisky@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 at 9:10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Logic not recognising M-Audio ozone
Message #237472
This is a reply to #237455.
Replying to myself: --- Robert Wilson <piesandwhisky@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi folks, > > Anyone managed to get an M-Audio Ozone working with > L8 and an intel Mac? > I contacted M-audio tech support the other day but > don't expect to > hear back from them any time soon. Just got this from M-audio tech support : "At present we do not certify the use of Mac OS 10.5 with this product however please keep checking our www.m-audio.com website for updates on this situation" Ach well...... new audio MIDI i/f looks a neccessity now.
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From: Eddie Sullivan <esullivan@imsproav.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 at 9:58:26 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] kaoss pad 3
Message #237473
This is a reply to #237457.
On Dec 30, 2007, at 1:41 PM, vince sambrook wrote: > hi,can anyone tell me how i can use my kaoss pad to effect my songs in > logic,i can use the pad as the sound comes out of my mixer and > through the > speakers but i cant record it as i bounce my songs.i have a delta 4/10 > soundcard and i think that maybe the kaoss pad needs to go through the > soundcard before it goes through the mixer.any ideas? many > thanks,vince Yes you can use the Kaoss pad to effect songs in Logic : ) You want to set up a 'Bus' in Logic and plug the inputs and outputs of your Kaoss pad into an input and output on the Delta and simply assign the input and output of the Bus to the corresponding ins and outs your Kaoss plugs into. (this is a lot easier to *do* than to explain via a user group) Now when you send signal to that bus the Kaoss Pad will effect it and return the effected signal to Logic. I hope this was clear- if i was there I could do it in like 2 minutes... Much props on using your Kaoss pad in such a unique way : ) Happy New Year! Eddie Sullivan IMS Pro A/V
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From: Eddie Sullivan <esullivan@imsproav.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 at 10:19:13 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Waves and Leopard
Message #237474
This is a reply to #237467.
On Dec 30, 2007, at 11:19 PM, Dave Shirk wrote: > I am still stuck > with one machine with Leopard and Logic 8 which > is unusable in our environment because of the heavy use > of the Waves L3. Isn't there anything in Logic 8 that can do the trick? L3 is great but Logic has so *many* great tools- the Multipressor is as good as anything I've heard elsewhere- I grab for Logic's effects as much as I grab for Waves...
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From: "mt100uk" <miketaylor100@mac.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 at 11:26:49 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: extremely frustrating patch change problem
Message #237475
This is a reply to #237469.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, grove@... wrote: > > Hi, > Please help! > > I have Logic 6.4.3. I have a project I have setup. > On one track, I have my synth (a JP6 europa) with patch change enabled. > > > It changes patches just fine, but it has somehow started getting an unwanted > patch change that is extremely annoying since it is an empty track I am trying > to record. > > So I set Patch "8" with Logic stopped and in the -4 before the track > starts. As soon as I start Logic, this track changed from patch "8" > to patch "36", a completely different patch. > > I do not seem to be able to change this in the event list. > I seem to recall there was a way to stop this, but I cannot remember how. > > Can someone please tell me how to resolve this extremely frustrating > and creativity destroying > problem before I run screaming into the night? I just > wanna play patch 8 on my Europa and when I hit the start button, > it plays patch 8, not patch 36. > > > rachel Hi Rachel, Its been a while since I've used Logic 6, but here it goes from memory. How are you changing the program? If its from logic are you using the program selector in the parameters (on the left in the arrange.) Is the program check-box checked? If you are changing it on the Roland, then it sounds like the Logic parameter is overwriting it. There are a couple of song-based parameters in the preferences as well, determining when to send out program changes (i.e. at play/reset, etc.) These tie into the program check-box, (if its checked, logic assumes control.) Hope this helps, Mike
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