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From: Michael Wills <michael@mawills.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 7:45:12 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Latency increased dramatically with Logic Pro 8 and Tascam
Message #235326
This is a reply to #235308.
mandcmiller wrote: > > --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:logic-users%40yahoogroups.com>, Michael Wills <michael@...> wrote: > > > > Ah, I forgot to mention that we were OS 10.4.9 and before upgrading to > > Logic 8, switched to OS 10.4.10. I hope that isn't the culprit... > > A friend of mine uses an M-Audio Duo (another USB 1.1 device), and has > been having > issues with crackles and pops since upgrading to 10.4.10. He is using > Logic 6 though. > > Matt > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Michael > > > > Michael Wills wrote: > > > > > > Just a quick question, > > > > > > Has anyone noticed increased latency moving from Logic 7 to Logic > 8? We > > > used the Tascam US-428 and it was usable on Logic 7. With Logic 8 it > > > seems no matter what I do the latency is just really high and > unplayable > > > for virtual instruments and not usable for recording with effects, > i.e. > > > a guitar through Guitar Amp. It was fine with Logic 7 and some tweaks. > > > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > > > iMac CoreDuo 2Ghz 2GB RAM Logic 7&8 > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > Ah... so the question is also partially, does OS 10.4.10 affect USB audio... ouch. Not fun. I was wondering if it was a Logic 8 thing because it seems a firewire audio interface is the recommended way to go. I am not sure if that was part of the recommendation for Logic 7 or 6. Hmm.... Thanks though. That'll help in the digging... Michael
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From: dennis gunn <dennis@spn1.speednet.ne.jp>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 8:47:39 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: Split stereo & UTM
Message #235327
This is a reply to #235319.
On Nov 1, 2007, at 8:07 AM, Steven Rowat wrote: > Hi, > > George wrote: >> >> As for the comment about "not having the freedom to separately effect >> each side of a stereo track" I, in over 25 years of recording, might >> have done this 4 or 5 times... So I'd suggest that it is an esoteric >> requirement. In 48 years of living on earth I have never used a tampon but I have never thought of tampons as "esoteric requirements". Anyway separately processing the sides of a stereo file is something I am wanting to do *all* the time so it does not look too esoteric to me. An example of when I want to do it: A guy I record *all* the time likes to record both the internal pickups of his acoustic guitar and a live mic. We use totally different processing on either side of the guitar some times we even go for a full on distorted electric sound on line side and an nice sweet acoustic sound on the mic side. I accomplish this now by keeping them in mono files on separate tracks but it would be really nice if they could be together as a stereo file so that when I am doing a lot of editing of the guitar track the two sides stay locked together without me having to consciously attend to keeping them together all the time. > Ah, but anyone afflicted (like myself) with the habit of recording > a vocal and guitar track together as the song bed track (in an > attempt to find emotional and timing authenticity sometimes lacking > in dubbed projects), and wishing to process the vocal mike side > separately from the guitar mike side, will want this. This is another example that applies over here as well. > But doesn't this work fine anyway in Logic? I run two copies of > stereo file through two different audio object tracks, with a copy > of the stereo file set on "left" in one track and "right" in the > other track. Then different processing can be applied each, and/or > send to different busses, etc. That is reasonable work around but then you still have to keep messing around to make sure that both files get edited the same.
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From: dennis gunn <dennis@spn1.speednet.ne.jp>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 8:50:00 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [Admin] Audioease Group Buy: Speakerphone, Rocket Science, Nautilus
Message #235328
This is a reply to #235283.
Is it possible to DL a demo of speaker phone. Maybe one with just a few of the speakers. I am primarily interested in the guitar speaker simulations.
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From: Mike O'Neill <mikeo@spinfinder.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 5:59:12 PM
Subject: Re: freeze delay
Message #235329
This is a reply to #235281.
> The Song Start pos is at 0 1 1 1 and the frozen track plays back from 1 1 1 100 that was end at 1 1 1 1
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From: natural <naturalsnd@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 9:04:49 PM
Subject: i have a problem with motormix and mute/solo of midi tracks
Message #235330
Using Motormix and Logic 6, I can mute/solo Audio tracks and Instrument tracks, So does anyone know why I can't mute or solo midi tracks? Or is there a top secret button that I'm missing?
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From: "Michael Oliphant" <michael@logic-users.org>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 9:21:06 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re:[Admin] Audioease Group Buy: Speakerphone, Rocket Science, Nautilus
Message #235331
This is a reply to #235323.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Mark Falchook <falchook@...> wrote: > > Mark, > > Special thanks for this Group Buy, particularly since I requested it. Maybe > I'm missing something, but how do we go about tracking the progress of the > Group Buy (number of current participants / current pricing)? > > Thanks, > -Mark > To monitor the discount for the Group Buy just go to the signup page here, http://www.audioease.com/cgi-bin/mail_lists/lug_score.cgi Michael [LUG admin]
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From: "Orren Merton" <orren@logic-users.org>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 10:15:03 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [Admin] Audioease Group Buy: Speakerphone, Rocket Science, Nautilus
Message #235332
This is a reply to #235328.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, dennis gunn <dennis@...> wrote: > > Is it possible to DL a demo of speaker phone. On the Speakerphone website, it is written: "At this moment there's no demo for Speakerphone, please check this page for audio and video demos." So the answer is not yet, but the sentence implies that they understand the need for a demo. Orren
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From: Steven Rowat <steven_rowat@sunshine.net>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 10:53:37 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Split stereo & UTM
Message #235333
This is a reply to #235251.
Hi, Paul wrote: >Steven, why don't you just record onto two mono tracks? Why would you >interleave a vocal mic & guitar mic? Dennis mostly answered this, but at risk of adding too much detail, here's a bit more: I also make composites in order to create the original bed track(s), not just later for dubs. Characteristically between three and six performances of the song (vocal+guitar), each take done free with no metronome; all in one session so all mic and level and other context variables are the same. And the timings are all over the map (within reason; the main variance is that I tend to speed up slowly over the sequence of takes). So, while building the composite from these takes, the transitions of vocal and guitar *both* have to match well between the composite chunks; and also I have to do a fair amount of stretching or squashing of sections to get the timings to be acceptable. So I find it's easier to be moving around single stereo regions and cutting and pasting and comparing and listening to them, than pairs of mono regions (which are easy to accidentally get out of sync, and which make a stack of 10 regions on my screen versus 5 stereo regions when I'm comparing 5 takes; 10 regions is too many for my short-term memory to keep track of; 5 I can handle, sometimes. :-) ). Later when that's all done, as I was saying in the earlier post, I copy the resulting composite master onto 2 different tracks and use different effects etc. for further tracking and mixing. I suppose I could actually split them at that point, but occasionally I need to go back and revise a section, and so it seems easier to have the same system in place right through the process so I can do that sort of edit without having to change the file format. I'm not saying this is the best way to approach this problem. But when I started doing this about 12 years ago, I was just barely on the Internet, didn't know what a mailing list was, and didn't have a nice group of knowledgeable people to ask, so I just more or less fumbled along, finding things that seemed to work and abandoning things that seemed to didn't. :-) Steven Rowat
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From: "mandcmiller" <mandcmiller@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 11:17:50 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Logic Studio Authorization
Message #235334
This is a reply to #235312.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Bransome" <forums@...> wrote: > > Message posted by Michael Bransome <synthesis@...>: > > Could someone please quote the link content (copy the text at the link, then post it here) that was working Oct 21 (it's not working the 31st). Here's the broken link: http:// docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum06642 > The link should be addressing the question how or if an xskey is needed after an upgraded Logic Studio 8 install. Thanks all. > Here it is: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum06642 Matt
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From: dennis gunn <dennis@spn1.speednet.ne.jp>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 11:33:09 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [Admin] Audioease Group Buy: Speakerphone, Rocket Science, Nautilus
Message #235335
This is a reply to #235332.
On Nov 1, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Orren Merton wrote: > On the Speakerphone website, it is written: > "At this moment there's no demo for Speakerphone, please check this > page for audio and video demos." > > So the answer is not yet, but the sentence implies that they > understand the need for a demo. Hmm. Well I guess that is a bit of a problem for the purposes of this group buy unless they are planning to address the issue within next week or so innit?
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From: James Ryan <jeryan@optonline.net>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 11:52:03 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Piano Roll background Colour preference Bug
Message #235336
This is a reply to #235314.
___ Sent with SnapperMail www.snappermail.com ...... Original Message ....... On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:29:06 +1100 Paul Najar <pnajar@bigpond.net.au> wrote: >Subject says it all. > >In global Preferences/ Display "Others" tab I set the Piano Roll to >"Bright Background Colours and nothing happens. I also set the the >same in the actual Piano Roll Menu and it changes - BUT- save that as >a template, Quit and re launch Logic and load the template and it's >all back to dark including the global preference. > >Can you Guys confirm this behaviour? > > >::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: >Paul Najar >Jaminajar Music Production >www.jaminajar.com > > > Same here as well as other settings on the piano roll page. I like snap to format. The saved template reverts back to snap to smart on re-open. I like the tool that activates with the command key to be the velocity tool. It always reverts back to zoom or pencil tool (or whatever). A very useful page, I love it but I do have to go in and reset all my defaults every time I start Logic. James
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From: Richard Patterson <rsp@richardsven.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 10:23:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Admin] Audioease Group Buy: Speakerphone, Rocket Science, Nautilus
Message #235337
This is a reply to #235332.
hi does the speakerphone purchase allow a license that you can use on either pc or mac? thanks rsp
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From: MusicGearfanatic@aol.com
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 at 12:44:36 AM
Subject: [LUG] Recording Voice
Message #235338
I have a trouble that when I record my voice in Logic 8. If i have an effect on the voice track it seems like what I am hearing back is not in the same time as when I sing, that way i have a hard time matching them to the beat when I am recording. I can turn of the realtime recording monitor, but I really like to hear back the quailty or volumn to make sure it is right. Can anyone hellp me? -j
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From: Sean McCoy <osr@jeffnet.org>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 at 1:42:20 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: [Admin] Audioease Group Buy: Speakerphone,
Message #235339
This is a reply to #235337.
>Message posted by Richard Patterson ><<mailto:rsp%40richardsven.com>rsp@richardsven.com>: > >hi does the speakerphone purchase allow a license that you can use >on either pc or mac? >thanks Yes---but a single authorization only. Best method for cross-platform use would be to authorize via iLok, which can then be moved freely between any number of computers.
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From: "markdvc2002" <mark@logic-users.org>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 at 2:23:06 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [Admin] Audioease Group Buy: Speakerphone, Rocket Science, Nautilus
Message #235340
This is a reply to #235335.
> > On Nov 1, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Orren Merton wrote: > > > On the Speakerphone website, it is written: > > "At this moment there's no demo for Speakerphone, please check this > > page for audio and video demos." > > > > So the answer is not yet, but the sentence implies that they > > understand the need for a demo. > --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, dennis gunn <dennis@...> wrote: > > Well I guess that is a bit of a problem for the purposes of this > group buy unless they are planning to address the issue within next > week or so innit? Dennis, if it is a help, along with the Demo Video (which IMO explains speakerphone very well) you can D/L the 67 page manual here: http://www.audioease.com/Pages/Speakerphone/speakerphone_manual.pdf kind regards Mark Cahill
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From: dennis gunn <dennis@spn1.speednet.ne.jp>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 at 2:48:32 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [Admin] Audioease Group Buy: Speakerphone, Rocket Science, Nautilus
Message #235341
This is a reply to #235340.
On Nov 1, 2007, at 4:23 PM, markdvc2002 wrote: > --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, dennis gunn <dennis@...> wrote: >> >> Well I guess that is a bit of a problem for the purposes of this >> group buy unless they are planning to address the issue within next >> week or so innit? > > Dennis, if it is a help, along with the Demo Video (which IMO > explains speakerphone very well) you can D/L the 67 page manual here: > > http://www.audioease.com/Pages/Speakerphone/speakerphone_manual.pdf Thanks to tell the truth I am impressed with the videos and demos, but when it comes to guitar stuff (which is what I would be buying this for) I just never trust anything period until I play through it myself. I can just never tell any other way.
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From: Maurits van de Kamp <maurits@bassment.nu>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 at 2:56:57 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [Admin] Audioease Group Buy: Speakerphone, Rocket Science, Nautilus
Message #235342
This is a reply to #235335.
>> "At this moment there's no demo for Speakerphone, please check this >> page for audio and video demos." >> >> So the answer is not yet, but the sentence implies that they >> understand the need for a demo. > > Well I guess that is a bit of a problem for the purposes of this > group buy unless they are planning to address the issue within next > week or so innit? To me the sentence also implies that there isn't going to be a demo version at all, just more demo recordings and videos. (But there are some already there). Maurits.
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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@gmx.de>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 at 3:25:54 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Recording Voice
Message #235343
This is a reply to #235338.
MusicGearfanatic@aol.com wrote: >I have a trouble that when I record my voice in Logic 8. If i have an > effect on the voice track > it seems like what I am hearing back is not in the same time as when I > sing, that way i have a hard time matching them to the beat when I am > recording. Sounds like you're having a quite high buffersize selected in your audio driver settings. Low (or even extremely low) buffer sizes, resulting in low latency, are crucial for any kind of recordings done via software monitoring. Try to lower the buffersize to the smallest amount possible without running into crackles or such, then have a try whether the problem goes away. Regards Sascha
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From: Peter Lemer <plemer@nildram.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 at 5:08:02 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re:MIDI problems - random no note-offs
Message #235344
does the kurzweill transmit active sensing? if so, you could try switching it off on the kbd if there's a switch, or filter it at the logic end? peter
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From: Peter Buhr <peter.buhr@arcor.de>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 at 5:04:43 AM
Subject: Question for MIDI experts: Kaoss Pad 3 controlling Audio Damage
Message #235345
The fabulous Dr device plug-in has got a x-y control pad on its GUI that looks like the kaoss pad. dragging the mouse sets "x" and "y", mouseclick down/up sets the "z" parameter. Assignment of left x and left y was no problem, i just moved my finger on the kaoss pad and midi learn worked. But z destination is more difficult, apparently - nothing happens at all... How should I set the controller assignment in logic? On the controller assignment window I set "value change" by typing "BD 5C Lo7", below it says "Control Change Ch 14, 92, Lo7". This seems to be correct, touch on/off is CC92 on channel 14 - but it doesn't work... "Value" is: min/max = 0/127 Format = unsigned Multiply = 1 Modus = switch (or toggle? I don't know the correct English translation for all this, just guessing)
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From: "Robin Bresnark" <bresnark@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 at 6:35:49 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Question for MIDI experts: Kaoss Pad 3 controlling Audio Damage
Message #235346
This is a reply to #235345.
> Message posted by Peter Buhr <peter.buhr@arcor.de>: > > The fabulous Dr device plug-in has got a x-y control pad on its GUI that > looks like the kaoss pad. dragging the mouse sets "x" and "y", mouseclick > down/up sets the "z" parameter. > Assignment of left x and left y was no problem, i just moved my finger on > the kaoss pad and midi learn worked. But z destination is more difficult, > apparently - nothing happens at all... > > How should I set the controller assignment in logic? On the controller > assignment window I set "value change" by typing "BD 5C Lo7", below it says > "Control Change Ch 14, 92, Lo7". This seems to be correct, touch on/off is > CC92 on channel 14 - but it doesn't work... > "Value" is: > min/max = 0/127 > Format = unsigned > Multiply = 1 > Modus = switch (or toggle? I don't know the correct English translation for > all this, just guessing) > Actually, any general advice for this would be really helpful - Sculpture also features an x-y area, so it'd be great to learn how you can control these with a Kaoss Pad / PadKontrol etc.
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From: "sonic_texture" <musical.matthew@mac.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 at 6:39:07 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: [Admin] Audioease Group Buy: Speakerphone, Rocket Science, Nautilus
Message #235347
This is a reply to #235283.
It's great to see a Group Buy from Audioease. I've looked at Rocket Science before but I've always thought it was too expensive. I'll be picking it up now for sure. Along those lines, I would really love to see AltiVerb in the group buy. I've always wanted it, but thought it is a bit too expensive to stomach with Space Designer included in Logic. Is there any chance of them adding AltiVerb to the Group Buy for those of us who don't already have it? Thanks, Matthew
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From: "markdvc2002" <mark@logic-users.org>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 at 7:47:52 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: [Admin] Audioease Group Buy: Speakerphone, Rocket Science, Nautilus
Message #235348
This is a reply to #235347.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "sonic_texture" <musical.matthew@...> wrote: > Is > there any chance of them adding AltiVerb to the Group Buy for those of us who don't already > have it? No, Altiverb is not included the group buy. kind regards Mark
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From: Janus Nowak <nowak@stylesabotage.de>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 at 7:14:40 AM
Subject: Re: Strange MIDI Message
Message #235349
This is a reply to #235286.
Okay, I've found out it only happens to one snare track I want to trigger. I don't know what's different between this and the others I've already triggered. I'll just try to change it.
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From: dennis gunn <dennis@spn1.speednet.ne.jp>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 at 8:03:31 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: [Admin] Audioease Group Buy: Speakerphone, Rocket Science, Nautilus
Message #235350
This is a reply to #235347.
On Nov 1, 2007, at 8:39 PM, sonic_texture wrote: > Along those lines, I would really love to see AltiVerb in the group > buy. I've always wanted it, but thought it is a bit too expensive > to stomach with Space Designer included in Logic. Is there any > chance of them adding AltiVerb to the Group Buy for those of us who > don't already > have it? I have altiverb but since Space Designer does everything altiverb does why do you need altiverb .
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