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From: Steven Rowat <steven_rowat@sunshine.net>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 1:40:49 PM
Subject: [LUG] L7: setting 'automatic SR change on import', existing project?
Message #235301
Hi, I want to listen to some mono voice that's recorded at 22K, in Logic Pro 7, and the only way I've found to do it is to start a new project and set the 'automatic SR conversion on import' when a brand new project is created. Then 22K changes to 44K (my chosen song rate) when imported and all is fine. But I'd assume there's a place somewhere I can set this function for existing songs/projects? If so, I can't find it, and all the 22K files I pull into older songs sound like chipmunks. Which is amusing for the first few seconds, but.... Steven Rowat
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From: "Paul H. Smith" <paul@fauxharmonic.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 1:23:38 PM
Subject: [LUG] Hyper Draw display/edit problem in Piano Roll
Message #235302
Using Logic Pro 8 I can no longer see or edit controller data in the Piano Roll Hyper Draw area. The data are there (as shown in the event list). I tried closing and reopening the project, quitting and restarting Logic, selecting different midi channels within Hyper Draw. All to no avail. Still can't draw or see anything in the HD area. One thing, though: it works fine in a new file! Does anyone have an explanation or, preferably, a solution?
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From: Michael Wills <michael@mawills.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 1:33:58 PM
Subject: [LUG] Latency increased dramatically with Logic Pro 8 and Tascam US-428
Message #235303
Just a quick question, Has anyone noticed increased latency moving from Logic 7 to Logic 8? We used the Tascam US-428 and it was usable on Logic 7. With Logic 8 it seems no matter what I do the latency is just really high and unplayable for virtual instruments and not usable for recording with effects, i.e. a guitar through Guitar Amp. It was fine with Logic 7 and some tweaks. Any thoughts? iMac CoreDuo 2Ghz 2GB RAM Logic 7&8 Thanks, Michael
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From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@goodmedia.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 2:10:31 PM
Subject: [LUG] 002 Aggregate with RME Fireface or Apogee Ensemble?
Message #235304
Can the Digi 002R aggregate nicely with either the RME Fireface 800 or Apogee Ensemble using the CoreAudio drivers? Digi's CoreAudio drivers are horrible, but hopefully at least this works! f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>
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From: "Paul H. Smith" <paul@fauxharmonic.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 2:15:57 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Hyper Draw display/edit problem in Piano Roll
Message #235305
This is a reply to #235302.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Paul H. Smith" <paul@...> wrote: > > Using Logic Pro 8 I can no longer see or edit controller data in the Piano Roll Hyper Draw > area. The data are there (as shown in the event list). > > I tried closing and reopening the project, quitting and restarting Logic, selecting different > midi channels within Hyper Draw. All to no avail. Still can't draw or see anything in the HD > area. One thing, though: it works fine in a new file! > > Does anyone have an explanation or, preferably, a solution? > Nothing like answering your own question ... It turns out that there was more than one region on the track. When only one region is selected the data show up in Piano Roll's Hyper Draw. So, if you have this problem, don't click the track to select a region to work on, click the region itself.
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From: Michael Wills <michael@mawills.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 2:45:29 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Latency increased dramatically with Logic Pro 8 and Tascam
Message #235306
This is a reply to #235303.
Ah, I forgot to mention that we were OS 10.4.9 and before upgrading to Logic 8, switched to OS 10.4.10. I hope that isn't the culprit... Thanks, Michael Michael Wills wrote: > > Just a quick question, > > Has anyone noticed increased latency moving from Logic 7 to Logic 8? We > used the Tascam US-428 and it was usable on Logic 7. With Logic 8 it > seems no matter what I do the latency is just really high and unplayable > for virtual instruments and not usable for recording with effects, i.e. > a guitar through Guitar Amp. It was fine with Logic 7 and some tweaks. > > Any thoughts? > > iMac CoreDuo 2Ghz 2GB RAM Logic 7&8 > > Thanks, > > Michael > >
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From: "Andrew Tokuda" <droofus@mindspring.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 2:57:23 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [Admin] Audioease Group Buy: Speakerphone, Rocket Science, Nautilus
Message #235307
This is a reply to #235300.
Two things: 1. I'm curious how the timing of this group buy works. If I sign up, will I need to wait until November 14 plus transit time to actually use the software (Speakerphone)? My assumption is yes, but I thought I'd ask. 2. I'd like to know for sure that Speakerphone works nicely with Logic 8 on an Intel processor running Leopard. As there is no demo (understandably, considering the size), I can't verify myself. Thanks much, droo
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From: "mandcmiller" <mandcmiller@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 3:33:57 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Latency increased dramatically with Logic Pro 8 and Tascam US-428
Message #235308
This is a reply to #235306.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Michael Wills <michael@...> wrote: > > Ah, I forgot to mention that we were OS 10.4.9 and before upgrading to > Logic 8, switched to OS 10.4.10. I hope that isn't the culprit... A friend of mine uses an M-Audio Duo (another USB 1.1 device), and has been having issues with crackles and pops since upgrading to 10.4.10. He is using Logic 6 though. Matt > > Thanks, > > Michael > > Michael Wills wrote: > > > > Just a quick question, > > > > Has anyone noticed increased latency moving from Logic 7 to Logic 8? We > > used the Tascam US-428 and it was usable on Logic 7. With Logic 8 it > > seems no matter what I do the latency is just really high and unplayable > > for virtual instruments and not usable for recording with effects, i.e. > > a guitar through Guitar Amp. It was fine with Logic 7 and some tweaks. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > iMac CoreDuo 2Ghz 2GB RAM Logic 7&8 > > > > Thanks, > > > > Michael > > > > >
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From: James Ryan <jeryan@optonline.net>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 3:48:51 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [Admin] Audioease Group Buy: Speakerphone, Rocket Science,
Message #235309
This is a reply to #235307.
On Oct 31, 2007, at 3:57 PM, Andrew Tokuda wrote: > Two things: > > 1. I'm curious how the timing of this group buy works. If I sign up, > will I need to wait until > November 14 plus transit time to actually use the software > (Speakerphone)? My assumption is > yes, but I thought I'd ask. > > 2. I'd like to know for sure that Speakerphone works nicely with > Logic 8 on an Intel processor > running Leopard. As there is no demo (understandably, considering > the size), I can't verify > myself. Can't answer the Intel/Leopard question, but I can tell you it's pretty cool on a G5 running Tiger in L8. Just used it on vocals on a project and it was very nice. I have Leopard on my iMac, but I'm holding off on the G5 Logic computer until I hear that all the dust has settled on plugs and drivers. James
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From: "markdvc2002" <mark@logic-users.org>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 4:33:51 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [Admin] Audioease Group Buy: Speakerphone, Rocket Science, Nautilus
Message #235310
This is a reply to #235307.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew Tokuda" <droofus@...> wrote: > > 1. I'm curious how the timing of this group buy works. If I sign up, will I need to wait until > November 14 plus transit time to actually use the software (Speakerphone)? My assumption is > yes, but I thought I'd ask. Yes, once the group buy finishes, payment information will be sent out to all subscribers. As soon as Audiease have received payment, the software will be shipped. Alternatively, you can opt to download - Rocket Science and Nautilus aren't so big, but Speakerphone is 4.5 Gigabytes, worth considering before opting for one delivery method over the other ... kind regards Mark Cahill
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From: zathras <zathras@cogeco.ca>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 4:35:40 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Zoom Out
Message #235311
This is a reply to #234596.
On Oct 14, 2007, at 10:29 AM, Maxim Milyutenko wrote: > Hi List, > > not sure if somebody else finds this to be a problem but for me it > is. Namely, if you have a long timeline (say, more than 1 hour) Logic > will not allow you yo zoom out all the way so that you can see the > WHOLE project. > > It wasn't possible in Logic 7 and it still isn't in L 8. > > For pure music production it is hardly a problem, but for scoring to > video it is. That's why I still have to do the assembling of a video > score in Pro Tools and not in Logic (would love to switch, though). is this a limitation of logic or the width of your monitor(s)??
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From: Michael Bransome <synthesis@telia.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 1:37:56 PM
Subject: Re: Logic Studio Authorization
Message #235312
This is a reply to #234895.
Could someone please quote the link content (copy the text at the link, then post it here) that was working Oct 21 (it's not working the 31st). Here's the broken link: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum06642 The link should be addressing the question how or if an xskey is needed after an upgraded Logic Studio 8 install. Thanks all.
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From: Tim Wat <timothywat@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 2:50:45 PM
Subject: MIDI problems - random no note-offs
Message #235313
Hi, am new to Logic and have what may be a noob q. Using Kurzweil K2600XS as MIDI controller (through MOTU Fastlane USB), MacBookPro (Intel), Logic Studio (8). Seemingly at random, notes will 'hang' as no note-off will be sent. Happens when tracking in Logic as well as in Mainstage. In Kurzweil's MIDI XMIT page, the "Panic" softbutton doesn't do anything...although of course Logic's Caps Lock keyboard "ESC" will send an all notes off command. 1) Is there something I can do to get the Kurzweil to more accurately XMIT the data? Is this an Environment "transformer" thing? I'm a complete noob to Logic and therefore haven't spent any time understanding the Environment, but read in the EVP88 section about a transformer to tailor velocity response...don't know if this is apples/oranges. 2) Is there a way to assign a "Panic" button to the Kurzweil...or get Logic to listen to the Kurzweil's? I need it if I'm going to use Mainstage live. I've called Kurzweil to see if they have an answer too. If this is really too noob a q for this group, just let me bluntly know as I won't be offended, but thanks for any help in advance. Tim
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From: Paul Najar <pnajar@bigpond.net.au>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 5:29:06 PM
Subject: [LUG] Piano Roll background Colour preference Bug
Message #235314
Subject says it all. In global Preferences/ Display "Others" tab I set the Piano Roll to "Bright Background Colours and nothing happens. I also set the the same in the actual Piano Roll Menu and it changes - BUT- save that as a template, Quit and re launch Logic and load the template and it's all back to dark including the global preference. Can you Guys confirm this behaviour? ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Paul Najar Jaminajar Music Production www.jaminajar.com
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From: Paul Najar <pnajar@bigpond.net.au>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 5:43:47 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Split stereo & UTM
Message #235315
This is a reply to #235278.
On 31/10/2007, at 6:37 PM, Ian Henderson wrote: > On the contrary, I think it's got everything to do with situations > where one might want to route/process L & R channels of a stereo > signal differently - not having the freedom to separately process > each side of a stereo file is not consistent with professional mix > behaviour. Ian, I didn't actually make any comment about whether it was a - worthwhile- thing to "split" or not so why your "on the contrary"? What you've said is not contrary to anything I've said or implied IMO. All that aside and now that you bring it up, I'm with George Ledger on this one, In 27 years of recording and mixing music, independent L & R processing has been required maybe 5 times, and if it were ever required it's an extremely trivial task to split an interleaved file. Take a look at the bottom two commands in the Audio Bin Local Edit menu. Further to this, I find myself often interleaving two mono recordings like a double tracked acoustic/ electric guitar track for ease of plugin processing without having to resort to a bus or Aux. Kind regards ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Paul Najar Jaminajar Music Production www.jaminajar.com
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From: Paul Najar <pnajar@bigpond.net.au>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 5:46:26 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: creating drum rolls/drum falls in logic
Message #235316
This is a reply to #235276.
On 31/10/2007, at 4:26 PM, George Leger III wrote: > (wood > "sounds better" than cement or metal stairs, UNLESS you wish to make > an impulse for Space designer) I prefer concrete steps for that brighter Nu Metal sound. PN
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From: "witsendcorky" <witsend@optushome.com.au>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 5:54:12 PM
Subject: [LUG] Show/Hide All Regions in Audio Bin
Message #235317
Does anyone know how to make Hide All Regions the default in Audio Bin? I've tried adding some audio data to my templates then Hiding the regions, deleting the audio and re-saving, but show all regions is still the default. This is a PITA as the latest audio file is always the last and I have to Unhide every time I go in. Cheers Clive Young
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From: "Wheaton, Simon" <simon.wheaton@cit.act.edu.au>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 5:20:16 PM
Subject: [LUG] Blocking Builtin USB Keyboard MIDI Data From Logic?
Message #235318
I have a lab at the school where I work that is running Logic Studio on 25 Intel Mac Pros. Each workstation has an external USB MIDI Interface (Emagic MT-4 or Edirol UM-3EX), which is connected to a MIDI Keyboard and external synthesizer. The problem is that some of the workstations (10 of the 25) have an M-Audio Axiom49 MIDI Keyboard that is connected to the external USB MIDI Interface by MIDI cables, but is also connected to the workstation directly by USB to provide power to the keyboard. This causes double notes being input into Logic, as the M-Audio keyboards are sending MIDI notes through the MIDI cable to the external USB MIDI Interface, as well as directly through the USB connection to the computer (via the USB MIDI interface built into the M-Audio keyboard itself). I want all the workstations in the room to communicate over MIDI cables, through the external USB MIDI interfaces. One solution would be to power all the M-Audio MIDI keyboards via external power adapters rather than by USB, but I would rather not have to buy these power adapters. I can't see anywhere in the Apple Audio MIDI Setup utility where I can remove/delete/disable the auto-detected USB MIDI interface that is built into the M-Audio keyboards, and I can't see anyway of blocking this MIDI data within Logic. Any ideas on how to remove this USB MIDI interface from Audio MIDI setup, or to block the data from within Logic? Thanks, Simon Canberra AUSTRALIA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: Steven Rowat <steven_rowat@sunshine.net>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 6:07:17 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Split stereo & UTM
Message #235319
This is a reply to #235251.
Hi, George wrote: > >As for the comment about "not having the freedom to separately effect >each side of a stereo track" I, in over 25 years of recording, might >have done this 4 or 5 times... So I'd suggest that it is an esoteric >requirement. Ah, but anyone afflicted (like myself) with the habit of recording a vocal and guitar track together as the song bed track (in an attempt to find emotional and timing authenticity sometimes lacking in dubbed projects), and wishing to process the vocal mike side separately from the guitar mike side, will want this. But doesn't this work fine anyway in Logic? I run two copies of stereo file through two different audio object tracks, with a copy of the stereo file set on "left" in one track and "right" in the other track. Then different processing can be applied each, and/or send to different busses, etc. Steven Rowat
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From: Paul Najar <pnajar@bigpond.net.au>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 6:16:24 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Blocking Builtin USB Keyboard MIDI Data From Logic?
Message #235320
This is a reply to #235318.
On 01/11/2007, at 9:20 AM, Wheaton, Simon wrote: > I have a lab at the school where I work that is running Logic > Studio on 25 Intel Mac Pros. > > Each workstation has an external USB MIDI Interface (Emagic MT-4 or > Edirol UM-3EX), which is connected to a MIDI Keyboard and external > synthesizer. > > The problem is that some of the workstations (10 of the 25) have an > M-Audio Axiom49 MIDI Keyboard that is connected to the external USB > MIDI Interface by MIDI cables, but is also connected to the > workstation directly by USB to provide power to the keyboard. > > This causes double notes being input into Logic, as the M-Audio > keyboards are sending MIDI notes through the MIDI cable to the > external USB MIDI Interface, as well as directly through the USB > connection to the computer (via the USB MIDI interface built into > the M-Audio keyboard itself). > > I want all the workstations in the room to communicate over MIDI > cables, through the external USB MIDI interfaces. > > One solution would be to power all the M-Audio MIDI keyboards via > external power adapters rather than by USB, but I would rather not > have to buy these power adapters. > > I can't see anywhere in the Apple Audio MIDI Setup utility where I > can remove/delete/disable the auto-detected USB MIDI interface that > is built into the M-Audio keyboards, and I can't see anyway of > blocking this MIDI data within Logic. > > Any ideas on how to remove this USB MIDI interface from Audio MIDI > setup, or to block the data from within Logic? Simon, I assume your Logic setups load up by default with some kind of autoload template? In this template go to the midi environment window and you will see a big object called "Physical Input" On this device you'll notice a cable node available for every midi input port - USB or midi - available on your systems. You'll notice that the top cable from "Sum" is connected through a keyborad and midi monitor object and then onto the "Sequencer Input". To stop any one of these "nodes" midi data from being passed to the Sequencer Input you simply connect it's specific node to a dummy midi object like a midi Monitor (created from the New Menu). Doing this takes that input only OUT of the Sum input. This is how you would achieve this task inside Logic. Otherwise you could use a separate program called MidiPipe <http://homepage.mac.com/ nicowald/SubtleSoft/> to hijack the required midi ports so Logic does not see them at all. Kind regards ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Paul Najar Jaminajar Music Production www.jaminajar.com
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From: Paul Najar <pnajar@bigpond.net.au>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 6:29:57 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: Split stereo & UTM
Message #235321
This is a reply to #235319.
On 01/11/2007, at 10:07 AM, Steven Rowat wrote: > Ah, but anyone afflicted (like myself) with the habit of recording > a vocal and guitar track together as the song bed track (in an > attempt to find emotional and timing authenticity sometimes lacking > in dubbed projects), and wishing to process the vocal mike side > separately from the guitar mike side, will want this. > > But doesn't this work fine anyway in Logic? I run two copies of > stereo file through two different audio object tracks, with a copy > of the stereo file set on "left" in one track and "right" in the > other track. Then different processing can be applied each, and/or > send to different busses, etc. Steven, why don't you just record onto two mono tracks? Why would you interleave a vocal mic & guitar mic? ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Paul Najar Jaminajar Music Production www.jaminajar.com
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From: "John Pitcairn" <johnp@opuslocus.net>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 8:08:39 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Blocking Builtin USB Keyboard MIDI Data From Logic?
Message #235322
This is a reply to #235320.
> I can't see anywhere in the Apple Audio MIDI Setup utility where I > can remove/delete/disable the auto-detected USB MIDI interface that > is built into the M-Audio keyboards They may use a separate M-Audio USB MIDI driver, which you'll find in /Library/Audio/MIDI Drivers/ or /Users/(username)/Library/Audio/MIDI Drivers/ If so, you can remove the driver and they won't show up as MIDI devices in the system. John Pitcairn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - LC Xmu Logic/Mackie Control emulation & management, LC Xview software LC/MC display, Logic environments & stuff... Opus Locus - http://www.opuslocus.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -
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From: Mark Falchook <falchook@mac.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 7:08:51 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re:[Admin] Audioease Group Buy: Speakerphone, Rocket Science,
Message #235323
Mark, Special thanks for this Group Buy, particularly since I requested it. Maybe I'm missing something, but how do we go about tracking the progress of the Group Buy (number of current participants / current pricing)? Thanks, -Mark
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From: "Wheaton, Simon" <simon.wheaton@cit.act.edu.au>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 7:09:00 PM
Subject: [LUG] Blocking Builtin USB Keyboard MIDI Data From Logic?
Message #235324
I have a lab at the school where I work that is running Logic Studio on 25 Intel Mac Pros. Each workstation has an external USB MIDI Interface (Emagic MT-4 or Edirol UM-3EX), which is connected to a MIDI Keyboard and external synthesizer. The problem is that some of the workstations (10 of the 25) have an M-Audio Axiom49 MIDI Keyboard that is connected to the external USB MIDI Interface by MIDI cables, but is also connected to the workstation directly by USB to provide power to the keyboard. This causes double notes being input into Logic, as the M-Audio keyboards are sending MIDI notes through the MIDI cable to the external USB MIDI Interface, as well as directly through the USB connection to the computer (via the USB MIDI interface built into the M-Audio keyboard itself). I want all the workstations in the room to communicate over MIDI cables, through the external USB MIDI interfaces. One solution would be to power all the M-Audio MIDI keyboards via external power adapters rather than by USB, but I would rather not have to buy these power adapters. I can't see anywhere in the Apple Audio MIDI Setup utility where I can remove/delete/disable the auto-detected USB MIDI interface that is built into the M-Audio keyboards, and I can't see anyway of blocking this MIDI data within Logic. Any ideas on how to remove this USB MIDI interface from Audio MIDI setup, or to block the data from within Logic? Thanks, Simon Canberra AUSTRALIA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: Keith Moore <kcmoore@lonearranger.com.au>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 at 7:34:08 PM
Subject: [LUG] Time Signature List bug
Message #235325
In L8 trying to edit time sigs from the lists window exhibits some strange behaviour on my system... for example if you create 2 signature changes 1 bar apart the first 2/4, the second 4/4, highlight the second and then click drag to a new bar position, it results in a movement of 2 bar increments (I guess this is Logic trying to relate 4/4 to 2/4) but if you want to get it back to being 1 bar from the 2/4 position you can't. Trying to do that now gives bizarre results like both signatures jumping to completely different bar positions or the second time sig disappearing completely??? This seems to happen with both click dragging and data entry. I might add that this is in a very large project originally created in L7.... Just checked in a new vanilla L8 template... behaviour is the same Logic Pro 8.... 10.5 MacPro Dual Quad 3 ghz Keith If you tried to give rock & roll another name, you might call it 'Chuck Berry'. John Lennon (1940-1980) _ _ _ ............... www.lonearranger.com.au
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