--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, drumsvibes@... wrote: > > Make sure the person you are buying from provides you with the newer USB dongle now called an XSkey. A copy of Logic without an XSkey is useless. > > What kind of dongle do you already have? > > Ignore this if this has already been discussed. I am just coming in the middle here. > no problem drumsvides, nice to have your input. Im using a blue one circa 2003 that came with Logic Gold 6. I need a newer dongle? the upgrade doesnt come with a dongle.

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Guy" <guypersonal@...> wrote: > So if I were able to buy the upgrade second hand I would need the previous owner to > somehow transfer his ownership of the licence to me so that the upgrade appears in my > dongle. This to the best of my knowledge is not possible with the XSkey. kind regards Mark Cahill

> --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Guy" <guypersonal@> wrote: > > > So if I were able to buy the upgrade second hand I would need the > previous owner to > > somehow transfer his ownership of the licence to me so that the > upgrade appears in my > > dongle. > --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "markdvc2002" <mark@...> wrote: > > This to the best of my knowledge is not possible with the XSkey. Yes, I think this is the missing part of apple's explanation. It should be clearer on their site, but the guys here have explained this to me based on just thinking about the practicality of it all. Cheers

zidzidane wrote: > Anyone noticed the current trend in DAWs is to have a non-linear and > single > screen interface like Ableton Live/Tracktion/Project 5. How are they non-linear? I mean, I can understand the statement for Live, but Tracktion has everything I'd call linear. > I strongly suspect Logic 8 will follow that route. If so (specially regarding the single screen aspect), then good bye. If there's one thing speeding up my workflow inside Logic (and partially Cubase, too) it's the option to have various, switcheable screen layouts. Also, only multiple screen hosts make working with differently sized monitors possible (something absolutely impossible in, say, Tracktion). I suspect many folks to leave Logic if they'd indeed take one of the most excellently implemented features away - the top-class handling of multiple windows and screensets that is. Regards Sascha

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "mt100uk" <miketaylor100@...> wrote: > Ok this is getting confusing! So I'm going to ask some questions. > > Question 1; Do you have a USB (xskey) and is it either blue or white > Question 2; What version (if any) of logic do you have already > Question 3; What is the person you're buying it from offering (ie from version 'what' to > version 'what') and is he offering a key. > > It is very unlikely that, once used to upgrade an xskey, that there is *any* value in an > upgrade pack. ie if the person you're buying from has used the upgrade on his xskey, the > number/code is absolutely useless. If you think about it, there is no way for apple to > remove an upgrade from an xskey (unless they go to this guys house, which is unlikely) so > to them, its like a chocolate bar thats already been eaten. Sorry if its confusing, I promise Im doing my best !! :O) OK, Q1: = yes, a blue USB key cira 2003 that came with Logic Gold 6 Q2 = Logic Gold 6, Ive also upgraded to 6.3.1 but cant go higher as the last upgrade (I understand) was for Logic Pro only (6.4 something) Q3 = he is offering Logic Pro 7.2 UPGRADE for Logic Gold 6. Its around £200 new. Yes, understand the logic about getting the key from the dongle but had it not been for apple's web page saying you could do it, I wouldnt have asked the question here. Ive asked the seller the same question and he originally said 'get a licence off of the Internet, its not hard' which didnt fill me with much confidence so I looked on the apple site and saw that you are allowed to transfer your ownership to another. Having said this, and only now as I write this given your description of the logic of trying to remove a key from a dongle I now suspect that Apple is saying, you CAN sell your licence, but ONLY via the dongle, so, even though the dongle does not come with the upgrade, the guy is going to have to sell the dongle too, which he wont, so he will have an issue on his hands. So, I think, its time to look at other routes to cut costs on my studio upgrade :o) thanks to all for your support on this, it was an interesting discussion and I hope it helps others who are offered a 2nd hand piece of software (particularly an upgrade) but with no dongle. I do have to say that Im a fan of the dongle, Ive had to reload everything on my G4 recently and everything had to have re-registrations which were not all easy, except for the logic studio stuff which was all fine, dongle just sat there waiting for software to be re-loaded. :O) Thanks once again, I really appreciate all your contributions here to help me get to this point. Co

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Rohan De Livera <titus1@...> wrote: > > this might help > > http://www.sveinbjorn.org/texttomp3 > If you'd rather record the voice to an AIFF file, try this one that I use, which is also free - Orator http://homepage.mac.com/dougeverly/orator.html

On 29 Jun 2007, at 10:57, Sascha Franck wrote: > If so (specially regarding the single screen aspect), then good > bye. If > there's one thing speeding up my workflow inside Logic (and partially > Cubase, too) it's the option to have various, switcheable screen > layouts. > Also, only multiple screen hosts make working with differently sized > monitors possible (something absolutely impossible in, say, > Tracktion). > I suspect many folks to leave Logic if they'd indeed take one of > the most > excellently implemented features away - the top-class handling of > multiple > windows and screensets that is. > > Regards > Sascha > Absolutely. Switcheable screen layouts is what makes Logic (et al.) so powerful. If this changes it will have to be pretty darned amazing for me to continue to use it. I find Tracktion and Live (both of which I own) (et al.) a bit too orientated towards the "instant gratification" crew for me. Rewiring Live into Logic is my preferred option. Paul.

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Guy" <guypersonal@...> wrote: > > Having said this, and only now as I write this given your description of the logic of trying > to remove a key from a dongle I now suspect that Apple is saying, you CAN sell your > licence, but ONLY via the dongle, so, even though the dongle does not come with the > upgrade, the guy is going to have to sell the dongle too, which he wont, so he will have an > issue on his hands. > > So, I think, its time to look at other routes to cut costs on my studio upgrade :o) > > thanks to all for your support on this, it was an interesting discussion and I hope it helps > others who are offered a 2nd hand piece of software (particularly an upgrade) but with no > dongle. Hi, your blue xskey is fine (hey its what i have) Its probably best to get the upgrade new, it is quite a bit of cash, but you do get lots for the cash. You get all the instruments and also you'll get the crossgrade (intel compatability.) I don't know what apple will do in the future about upgrades but as it stands at the moment its a great deal. I got upgrades from 6.xGold -> 6.xPro -> 7.0 -> 7.2 all of these were paid, and would probably cost about twice as much. Mike

No, I installed Logic Pro and all the loops directly off the disks. Chris, can you tell me how you batch converted your problem files? And again, is there any way to get a list of all apple loops that are in the browser? That's the big problem- I need to do a separate browser search for all loops with a similar name as I go thru each folder - is there any better way? I don't understand why the browser won't let you see a list of every loop in one window. David Wilson Brandeis Theater Company Brandeis University Waltham, MA

I forgot to mention Garageband has essentially a single layout (although you can load AU plug-ins in separate screens), and since Garageband is developed by the same people who make Logic, in order for there to be some sort of coherence between the products I expect Logic to follow the same designs. With regards to the workflow of a single screen layout - I know many producers who think Garageband has a better workflow than Logic, and actually start their projects in Garageband, and then move to Logic Pro for final adjustments and mixing. (eg. some of the Mike Shinoda/Linkin Park stuff actually incorporate obvious garageband loops). I am sure the developers have have thought of a way to accommodate users who have two screens (although in my opinon, you don't really need two as the current LCD screens made by Apple are huge). Whats going to be interesting is whether they just blatantly copy Ableton Live's interface (like Cakewalk did with Project 5) or develop something entirely new.

HI George thanks for this, but my setup assistant doesnt work via the File menu. Im wondering if there is an alternative route to starting this up? thanks Guy www.f4b.com

ah.. found the LogicSetupAssistant.pkg but it tells me "there was an error installing the software, Please Try Installing again" ... Im not sure what Im expecting to install, I just wanted to re-discover the plugins ? thanks for your help Guy

Hey all, I just read an interesting little article on the net, found at the following URL: http://www.mindspring.com/~mrichter/dynamics/dynamics.htm It deals with how people seem to be getting louder in the mix and therefore losing sound quality. I know I've been guilty of this in the past too, but I hope I've refined my mixing a little anyway. It's good to keep in mind in any case, as I can see where the more you add to the mix, the more you're at risk of clipping the thing. Here's a two-prong question though: When using digital instruments, and MIDI, there's no wave form. It might sound like a dumb question, as I assume all of the samples are well and truly NOT clipped at the get-go, but first of all, is it even possible to clip a sampled sound in a mixdown? And, if so, is there a way to 'see' you're going to clip the mixdown before you actually bounce the track? With live instruments, you can see when you clip in the wave... with MIDI, how can you know? While I'm here, does anyone know of a good thread/site dealing with this sort of thing (i.e. the art of mixing)? All the best, m.

Hello everyone, I have two dumb questions, I've noticed on different online seminars that when recording audio tracks the actual audio regions have different colors than the ones I have on my computer which came by default with the software (I currently have a dark pink which I hate) Does anyone know how to change these colors? The second question is in regards to audio tracks, I've noticed in some videos and online seminars, when recoding an electric guitar for instance, there is always an "electric guitar" symbol on the actual track or a drum set if your recording a drumset. Can enyone please explain to me how to get these icons to match what's recoded in my tracks? Thanks in advance guys!

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "zidzidane" <forums@...> wrote: > > With regards to the workflow of a single screen layout - I know many producers who think Garageband has a better workflow than Logic, and actually start their projects in Garageband, and then move to Logic Pro for final adjustments and mixing. (eg. some of the Mike Shinoda/Linkin Park stuff actually incorporate obvious garageband loops). I am sure the developers have have thought of a way to accommodate users who have two screens (although in my opinon, you don't really need two as the current LCD screens made by Apple are huge). > > Whats going to be interesting is whether they just blatantly copy Ableton Live's interface (like Cakewalk did with Project 5) or develop something entirely new. > To be honest If they did this it would be a huge disappointment to me and (I suspect) quite a few others using Logic at the moment. In my experience, most of the people who have problems with the multiple windows paradigm simply haven't got to grips with screen- sets. I love live, yet even on 2 19-inch TFTs (which it won't use properly) I can't get enough channels on the screen if i want to see all the requisite parameters or the browser and not being able to see a midi sequence, the software instrument and audio fx at the same time is so annoying. I'd hate to see a live style all-in-one window design in logic, this may suit for the reduced function set of something like garageband, but there is too much going on in logic. I wouldn't mind there being the option for this but if this was the ONLY way it would be a nightmare for me. Oh yeah and IMHO one big screen sucks compared to multiple smaller screens (and they're sooo much cheaper!) Mike

zidzidane wrote: > (eg. some of the Mike Shinoda/Linkin Park stuff actually incorporate > obvious garageband loops). You can use Apple Loops in Logic as well, so that doesn't say anything. > I am sure the developers have have thought of a way to accommodate users > who have two screens > (although in my opinon, you don't really need two as the current LCD > screens made by Apple are huge). I won't buy any overpriced Apple displays just because Logic may probably not support the current window handling anymore. Besides, I'm mainly working on mobile machines and the maximum resolution I'm getting with an external monitor hooked up to my Macbook is 1280x1024, defenitely not enough in case it'd be my only monitor. > Whats going to be interesting is whether they just blatantly copy Ableton > Live's interface (like Cakewalk > did with Project 5) or develop something entirely new. Well, it's not going to be interesting for me. If they change the brilliant window/screen handling in favour of something not allowing me to work the way I do since almost a decade, they'll lose a customer. It's that easy. After all, the way Logic treats windows and screensets has been one of the key reasons I switched to it from Cubase back in the days. Removing such a key feature (and I'm sure it's a key feature for many Logic users) will only be one thing: Ridiculously stupid. Regards Sascha

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Martin" <forums@...> wrote: > Message posted by Martin <machei@...>: > Hey all, > I just read an interesting little article on the net, found at the following > URL: > http://www.mindspring.com/~mrichter/dynamics/dynamics.htm > It deals with how people seem to be getting louder in the mix and therefore > losing sound quality. > I know I've been guilty of this in the past too, but I hope I've refined my > mixing a little anyway. It's good to keep in mind in any case, as I can see > where the more you add to the mix, the more you're at risk of clipping the > thing. > Here's a two-prong question though: When using digital instruments, and > MIDI, there's no wave form. It might sound like a dumb question, as I assume > all of the samples are well and truly NOT clipped at the get-go, but first > of all, is it even possible to clip a sampled sound in a mixdown? And, if > so, is there a way to 'see' you're going to clip the mixdown before you > actually bounce the track? With live instruments, you can see when you clip > in the wave... with MIDI, how can you know? > While I'm here, does anyone know of a good thread/site dealing with this > sort of thing (i.e. the art of mixing)? > All the best, > m. Hi, I can tell you what I do to MIDI performances: I PRINT them to an audio file, after they are finalized, ie there is no more editing to the performance. This will then get you a waveform, and you can then tell how loud it "really" is. i usuallly print MIDI to audio and leave 4-6dB of headroom in the file, in case I want to use further processing down the road. Besides, ther is ALWAYS a waveform when using MIDI, you just are hearing it and not seeing it, that's all. I think you are wanting to see a a waveform as in an audio file waveform. Printing it will do this for you. Yes, you can clip ANYTHING during mixdown. Just like being able to clip ANYTHIGN during recording as well. You just have to be mindful of your levels, that's all. Here's how you can tell something is clipping": It will sound DISTORTED, because, well, that is what clipping IS. If you cannot hear the clipping, then RUN to a doctor and get your ears checked ASAP. Cheers

Hello everyone, I currently use a Macbook Pro 2.16ghz, 2gb, 120gb, 15.4in, Lacie EXT HD 250gb Firewire, and Logic PRO 7.2. I recently sold an M-Audio 410 to upgrade to a better interface with more inputs (at least 8). I'm looking at these three: MOTU 8pre / Presonus Firepod / Focusrite Saffire Pro 10 i/o They all seem to be pretty good, any suggestions as to which of these would be the best choice considering my set up, if price isn't an issue? (I don't want to spend any more than $550.00 though) Thanks in advance guys!

Print to an audio file?! Good god, I never even thought of this before. Thank you so much for that little gem of advice. I will certainly be trying it. Can't wait to get back home to Logic to give it a go. Cheers, mate! m.

Hi Rohan wrote (re: subject): >this might help > >http://www.sveinbjorn.org/texttomp3 > Thanks, very elegant, it worked fine. Although it still seems there should be a way to redirect OS 'text-to-speech', which I assume to be a part of Core Audio, and have it show up as a record input in Logic; but maybe there isn't. Steven Rowat

On Jun 29, 2007, at 12:49 PM, Steven Rowat wrote: > , which I assume to be a part of Core Audio, and have it show up as > a record input in Logic; but maybe there isn't. > Audio loop-back seems to be the only option for sounds generated on the computer running logic, whether soft-synth or os sounds. sigh. Bill

Having just upgraded to a speedy new system (Quad Core Mac Pro, Apogee Symphony card and Rosetta 800 converters) I thought latency I had chalked up to my old system would be things of the past. However, I am still experiencing issues, so rather than throwing up my hands in ignorance, I figured (actually I know) someone here can shed some light on this. Issue #1 : I take a virtual instrument track (for example BFD drums) which I bounce down to an stereo audio file. When I import that audio file at the same location in the timeline as the original virtual intstrument and play both, they are not perfectly in sync. Why? Other than using Logic's awkward audio file editing tools to move the file into sync, how can I prevent this nasty problem from occuring? Is there some setting. Issue #2: I have 4 auido tracks all in-sync. Then on one track I add a UAD-1 plug-in (say an 1176 and neve eq) now how can I be assured track 1 has maintained the same sync as prior to adding these UAD plugs? On my new sytsem, I am not quite sure where all my core audio setting should be set (I deferred to the techs from Sweetwater, where I bought the system, to make these adjustments.) What setting helps the system compensate for plug-in latency? Since I always chalked up an latency issues to my old system running beyond its capacity, I accepted the resultant latency. But now, I can longer accept the results. Any advice? Thanks

Message posted by zidzidane <zidzidane@yahoo.com>: > Anyone noticed the current trend in DAWs is to have a non-linear > and single > screen interface like Ableton Live/Tracktion/Project 5. > > I strongly suspect Logic 8 will follow that route. What if it's released at an arbitrary time in between trade shows with little fanfare, and it's not radically different from Logic 7? How silly would anyone feel then? Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher Virtual Instruments Magazine www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496) +1818/905-9101, cell 590-9101

On Jun 29, 2007, at 6:32 AM, guy lewis wrote: > HI George thanks for this, but my setup assistant doesnt work via > the File menu. Im wondering if there is an alternative route to > starting this up? thanks > > Guy > > www.f4b.com Dang.. sounds like you might have to do a reinstall of Logic. I have done allot of private Logic support and have never once heard of this problem. George Leger III ________________________________________________________ For Logic Pro / Express tutoring and instruction, either in person or by phone, contact me offline at: http://www.utopiaparkwaymusic.com/services.html Music is the best (Frank Zappa)...

>What if it's released at an arbitrary time in between trade shows >with little fanfare, and it's not radically different from Logic 7? >How silly would anyone feel then? >Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher >Virtual Instruments Magazine >www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com >1-877 VImagzn (846-2496) >+1818/905-9101, cell 590-9101 I would paste a dangerously witty comment, but I am too busy reading your new magazine! FoKuS... on the music