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From: PrjStd@aol.com
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 7:41:08 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] AU Validation in Waveburner
Message #226826
Here's something that might help: There's a small app called AUmanager which you can get here for free: http://www.grantedsw.com/aum/ That's a great tip. Thanks_joel
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From: Paul Najar <pnajar@bigpond.net.au>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 9:05:15 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: plug-ins on a mapped instrument?
Message #226827
This is a reply to #226772.
On 30/03/2007, at 10:08 PM, ross gilbert wrote: > thanks paul!!! > that is cool! > that has given me a lot more oppurtunities now, i never knew when > to use the muti channel mode before now! > do you know if there is a reason that the ultrabeat only has voices > 1-16 and why are they only available in stereo pairs? Logic only supports 16 outputs to an aux from any single virtual instrument in despite the fact that in a recent update (7.2?) they claimed they had lifted this limit. Pairs is typical and allows for more flexible & stereo or panning sounds more easily. You can open a mono Aux for one out or a stereo Aux for a pair. For each pair pan left to get out 1 or right for two etc... > thanks again anyway > ross > > p.s. does my method of drum programming sound over complicated to > you? is there a simpler alternative like lots of seperate > ultrabeats or even just using samples in audio channels? Separate UB's doesn't simplify anything really and may use extra CPU. Having each sound separated for mixing is typical and not over complicated IMO. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Paul Najar Jaminajar Music Production www.jaminajar.com
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From: Paul Najar <pnajar@bigpond.net.au>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 9:18:30 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Sound Card for G5
Message #226828
This is a reply to #226805.
On 31/03/2007, at 8:53 PM, Giles Cross wrote: > Message posted by Giles Cross <gilescross@creativeopolis.com>: > > Hi Folks, > > I'm looking for a decent sound card for an Apple Mac G5 2.5 Quad > (pre-intel) > that will allow me to record multiple tracks simultaneously into > Logoc Pro > 7. I'm using a Behringer 1222fx mixer with group output and so just > need a > few pointers as to what to look for regarding a sound card. Also, > when I > upgrade will the new sound card fit and work OK when it's installed > in a Mac > Pro? The best solution performance and latency is a PCIe based system. Sound quality is driven by converter quality and latency is is as a direct function of the driver quality. Apogee Symphony seems to be the current champ for sound and low latency but may be a lot more I/O & $$$ than you need. Under this are the RME solutions that have recently been updated to support PCIe. The Multiface2/ Digiface, HDSP 9652/ 9632 are all fine sounding, low latency and have the BEST software & hardware interface features on any system I've ever seen. PCIe will always offer lower latency and less CPU drain than any firewire system. Kind regards ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Paul Najar Jaminajar Music Production www.jaminajar.com
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From: Paul Najar <pnajar@bigpond.net.au>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 9:20:43 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Only 3 instenaces of EVB3 avaiable
Message #226829
This is a reply to #226812.
On 01/04/2007, at 12:39 AM, Jampig wrote: > Message posted by Jampig <daemdrahcir@yahoo.co.uk>: > > Hi > > When trying to use more than 3 instances of evb3 the plugin appears > but > makes not noise. Any ideas? EVB3 is a very hungry instrument. Which Mac are you on? ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Paul Najar Jaminajar Music Production www.jaminajar.com
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From: MusicGearfanatic@aol.com
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 10:21:34 PM
Subject: [LUG] Loop box
Message #226830
Just recently after I record a piece the loop box auto checks itself! Even AFTER I uncheck it it still checks itself later. Wazzup wit dat? Jason Helfer ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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From: Bob DeMaa <bobdemaa@mac.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 10:57:29 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Sound Card for G5
Message #226831
This is a reply to #226828.
On Mar 31, 2007, at 7:18 PM, Paul Najar wrote: > The best solution performance and latency is a PCIe based system. > Sound quality is driven by converter quality and latency is is as a > direct function of the driver quality. > > Apogee Symphony seems to be the current champ for sound and low > latency but may be a lot more I/O & $$$ than you need. Under this are > the RME solutions that have recently been updated to support PCIe. > The Multiface2/ Digiface, HDSP 9652/ 9632 are all fine sounding, low > latency and have the BEST software & hardware interface features on > any system I've ever seen. Apogee Symphony works with any of the Apogee interfaces, so the # of I/O's is scalable from 2 to... lots. bd
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From: David Smith <ntd.david@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 9:50:00 PM
Subject: Re: Can't print from score
Message #226832
This is a reply to #226653.
This may not be your issue, but I had troubles early on with scrambled notes and missing end pgs. *) If you select Print Preview at the Print dialog, it will make a pdf and show it in Apple's Preview app. It will usually be screwed up. *) The order that works is to 1) File>Print... this opens the print dialog box 2) Select PDF>Save as PDF... (to a location) This will create a successful PDF file viewable in Preview or Acrobat. (this goes for some other software as well.) Side note: creating an 11x17 document makes a nice solution for printing orchestral scores. You can print directly if you have such a printer, or print (fit to pg) then enlarge at a copy shop with respectable results.
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From: Jesus <jesusgallego@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 10:03:20 PM
Subject: Korg Microkontrol bugs
Message #226833
Hi! I'm using a Korg Microkontrol with latest firmware+Logic Express 7.2.3 and I noticed there are a couple of bugs: 1- No modulation - the MK does not seem to send modulation using the stick. It does, however, send pitch bend on the x axis. 2- Some parameter labels get "stuck" in the LCDs as if they don't refresh properly whe scrolling through pages. Can anyone else confirm this? Am I doing anything wrong?
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From: Jampig <daemdrahcir@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 at 6:49:22 AM
Subject: Re: Only 3 insistences of EVB3 avaiable
Message #226834
This is a reply to #226829.
Hi I'm using a MacBook Pro, 2.33Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo, 3GB SDRAM. So I wouldn't og thought it would have been an processor issue??? Any ideas? Thanks
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From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@goodmedia.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 at 10:13:07 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Only 3 instenaces of EVB3 avaiable
Message #226835
This is a reply to #226812.
Jampig <daemdrahcir@yahoo.co.uk>: >When trying to use more than 3 instances of >evb3 the plugin appears but makes not noise. EVB3 is multitimbral (upper keyboard + lower keyboard + bass pedals like a real organ), thus the MIDI channel of the AudioInstrument track is relevant. MIDI Channels 4-16 play nothing. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>
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From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@goodmedia.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 at 11:54:27 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re:Can't output the score to a PDF
Message #226836
This is a reply to #226662.
Eli Krantzberg <elik@videotron.ca> on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 at 9:42 PM -0500 wrote: > >I get this intermittently. It's a long standing bug that seems to >affect some systems some times. The solution is to go to the page >layout and set the scaling to 100%. You'll probably find tht it is >unintentionally set to 1440%, or some obscurely similar large amount. > > GENIUS! Thanks, it worked perfectly! f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>
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From: Greg McKitrick <rainguitar@shaw.ca>
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 at 8:56:31 AM
Subject: Upgrading from Express to Pro. Some concerns.
Message #226837
Hello, I need some advise regarding a decision I have to make. Currently I am running Logic Express 7.23 on an intel iMac with 2 gigs ram. I control this using a Roland XP-30 with 5 expansion cards: Session, Orchestral, Techno Collection, Keyboards of the 60s & 70s, and Bass and Drums. The music I write makes heavy use of Hammond Organs, Rhodes pianos, guitars, bass and acoustic drum sounds. So far I haven’t done much with synth sounds but that may change. I also have Ozone 3, the Melodyne plug-in and fairly large collection of Apple Loops, particularly drums. I currently have the money to upgrade to Logic Pro. If I do I will probably also ditch the XP-30 and go with a Novation Remote 61 SL because of its software control features. I have three concerns though: Pro 7 can easily cover the Rhodes and Hammond sounds but how is it for non-synth bass sounds, and can Ultrabeat do a decent job with acoustic drum sounds? I’ve also heard that Ultrabeat isn’t that user friendly. The second concern is the draw on my cpu. My current setup makes almost no significant demands on my cpu because much of what I do involves sequencing on an external synth. If I go with Pro 7 and the Novation controller then I will go entirely with software instruments with the resulting increase in cpu usage. I don’t generally go in for elaborate productions but I’m still concerned about the adequacy of my computer. My third concern is with Guitar Amp Pro. After some initial tests with the Express guitar amp plug in I opted to mike my guitar amp (a Roland BC-60) because it just sounds so much better. Is Guitar Amp Pro a significant improvement? Another question, this time not as Logic-related. My audio interface is a Edirol FA-66. For the most part this has served me well but the mic preamps are well… digital sounding. I’m considering purchasing a Universal Audio Solo/110 tube preamp to warm up the sound. However—and this is where my ignorance of technical aspects becomes really apparent—I would still have to go through the FA-66 to get the sound into my computer. Doesn’t this mean that I would still be going through the FA-66 preamps? Thanks for all your help, Greg
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From: Peter Keereman <pk.productions@telenet.be>
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 at 2:13:14 PM
Subject: file already exists
Message #226838
Hi everyone, When bouncing I sometimes get error file already exists error = -48. This message comes irregularly. This is a real bug, please answer if anyone has come across the same problem and how you worked around it ! The file is written, you can even write an audio Cd. The problem starts when you want to use it in the Windows environment. Windows does not recognize it as a wav file but rather as a raw file. Definitely something wrong with the file. Any suggestions ? Thanks. Peter Mac Pro 2,66 / Logic 7.2.3
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From: "darealbasoski" <mail@olavbasoski.nl>
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 at 3:50:47 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Loop box
Message #226839
This is a reply to #226830.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, MusicGearfanatic@... wrote: > Just recently after I record a piece the loop box auto checks > itself! Even AFTER I uncheck it it still checks itself later. > Wazzup wit dat? Jason Helfer In the OBJECT's parameters, is the loopbox unchecked? (So without anything selected on the track). O.
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From: "Andy Hardwake" <andyhardwake@mac.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 at 4:06:32 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Sound Card for G5
Message #226840
This is a reply to #226831.
Bob DeMaa wrote: > Apogee Symphony works with any of the Apogee interfaces, so the # of > I/O's is scalable from 2 to... lots. ...Where "lots" is equal to 96 :-) . Best, Andy -- Andy Hardwake Composer/Producer http://www.myspace.com/andyhardwake
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From: "subginge" <ginge@subgud.org>
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 at 5:15:30 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Logic uses 16.777.216,00 TB RAM
Message #226841
This is a reply to #226825.
> On Mar 31, 2007, at 7:53 AM, subginge wrote: > > I'm using MacPro Dual 2.66 with 4 GB RAM and just discovered that > > in the Activity Monitor, whenever a song uses more than 2 GB, > > the Real Memory cell in the monitor jumps to 16.777.216,00 TB, > > which is strange to say the least. I suspect that might be one > > of the reasons why Logic is very unstabile in certain projects. --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Dave Katz <dkatz@...> wrote: > Sounds like a simple sign extension bug in Activity Monitor; the > high order bit gets set, a signed extension to 64 bits is done, and > then its displayed as an unsigned number, or something like that. > > This has nothing at all to do with Logic. > Thank's for the reply Dave! You're probably right, but I would still like to hear from other MacPro users: does Logic behave properly whith large projects or are you getting unexpected quits from bouncing, save as..., importing audio, opening certain preferences windows etc. These quits are far from unexpected for me, and once I get these crashes, the only way to deal with it is to restart Logic without Kontakt2 or Altiverb, save and restart with these plugs back in. I used to blame it on Altiverb and had the AudioEase tech support search for the bug using my project. They found a bug alright, but it wasn't this one... I have experienced the bug without Kontakt2 installed at all so I don't think that's the culprit either. I have tried to install under a new user profile on the same machine and reinstalled everything but OSX without any luck. I have repaired permissions and run System Optimizer and Maintanance with no luck. After 2 months of searching and reading posts on similar bugs I get the feeling it is ram-related. I read on Apple's Logic discussion forum that someone with the same symptomes claimed they were only happening with projects exceeding 2 gb. I cannot say with 100% certainty that this is the case here, but I'm keeping an eye on the RAM meter. Will know more later. Any suggestions are welcome. Regsrds, Ginge
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From: Matt McKenzie-Smith <matt@mattrixx.net>
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 at 6:07:10 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Only 3 instenaces of EVB3 avaiable
Message #226842
On 01/04/2007, at 12:39 AM, Jampig wrote: > Message posted by Jampig <daemdrahcir@yahoo.co.uk>: > When trying to use more than 3 instances of evb3 the plugin appears > but makes not noise. Any ideas? Check the midi channels of the Instruments Audio Object. Set to 'All' to be sure and check Chan 1, 2 & 3 with your controller. You should hear Upper, Lower and Pedals respectively. Best Regards, Matt Audio - Music - Post Production Web: mattrixx.net - Australia 0416 197 883 Snail Mail: PO Box 10395, Adelaide, South Australia. 5000 iCHATav: mattrixx@mac.com Email: matt@mattrixx.net
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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@gmx.de>
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 at 8:23:25 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Loop box
Message #226843
This is a reply to #226830.
MusicGearfanatic@aol.com wrote: > Just recently after I record a piece the loop box auto checks itself! > Even > AFTER I uncheck it it still checks itself later. Wazzup wit dat? Click in the background of your arrange, so nothing is selected - you will most likely see the loop box checked. Uncheck it and you'll be fine. Everything you see in the parameter-box whenever no part is selected will be valid for each new recorded part. Which, at least sometimes, is a real time saviour. Set a quantize value and everything you record will be quantized automatically. Check the loop box and everything will loop automatically. Great if you are a lousy keyboarder as me. Regards Sascha
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From: "TackiePro" <chaunceybee@cox.net>
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 at 10:45:37 AM
Subject: [LUG] Wait for note
Message #226844
On page 628 of the Reference manual there's a reference to 'Wait for note'. I was trying to set it up, but it doesn't appear where the manual says it should be. It says it should be in 'Song Settings', 'Recording' tab. The manual says: ------------------------------------------------------------------- When Beginning: Count In If Record Pre-roll is disabled, a pull-down menu will be activated, allowing you to set the desired Count In period that precedes a recording. 1)Wait for Note: keeps running in a "symmetrical" loop of one beat, centered around the start point of the recording, until MIDI events are input. As the loop starts half a beat before the start point, you are allowed up-beat notes of up to half the value of the bar denominator (e.g. with n/4 time, a maximum of 1/8 notes). 2)No count-in: the recording begins with no count in. 3) x Bar count-in: x bars of count-in. 4) x/4 Count in: The count-in's time signature may be set here. These settings are useful when the count-in falls across a bar change. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Items 2), 3), & 4) appear there, but I don't see 1) Is there some other setting somewhere that must be made? Thanks very much.
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From: "HKC" <hkc@surfpost.dk>
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 at 1:59:42 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Only 3 instenaces of EVB3 avaiable
Message #226845
This is a reply to #226835.
> EVB3 is multitimbral (upper keyboard + lower keyboard + bass > pedals like a real organ), thus the MIDI channel of the > AudioInstrument track is relevant. > > MIDI Channels 4-16 play nothing. So you have to change the midi channel of the instruments higher than 3, the default midi channel follows the instrument number (instrument 5 has midi channel 5 etc). It's very simple, just select the instrument in arrange and change the midi channel in the info box.
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From: leyton <leyton@paradise.net.nz>
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 at 2:11:30 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Only 3 instenaces of EVB3 avaiable
Message #226846
This is a reply to #226812.
> 6b. Re: Only 3 instenaces of EVB3 avaiable > Posted by: "Paul Najar" pnajar@bigpond.net.au paulnajar > Date: Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:21 pm ((PDT)) > > > On 01/04/2007, at 12:39 AM, Jampig wrote: > >> Message posted by Jampig <daemdrahcir@yahoo.co.uk>: >> >> Hi >> >> When trying to use more than 3 instances of evb3 the plugin appears >> but >> makes not noise. Any ideas? > > my guess would be that the instrument channel strip ( of the non- audio producing channel) is set to the wrong midi channel... try changing it to ch1...
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From: "dougzpro" <dzpro@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 at 4:06:11 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Loop box
Message #226847
This is a reply to #226830.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, MusicGearfanatic@... wrote: > Just recently after I record a piece the loop box auto checks > itself! Even AFTER I uncheck it it still checks itself later. > Wazzup wit dat? Jason Helfer The letter "L" is a default key comand to toggle the loop function. Perhaps you're hitting that key? Doug
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From: Keith Moore <kcmoore@lonearranger.com.au>
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 at 4:30:36 PM
Subject: [LUG] Storm Drums
Message #226848
Anyone using Storm Drums with Logic? How good?... the demos sound perfect for a project I'm about to begin, I've been burnt in the past by cpu intensive plugs so how do "Kompakt" & "intakt" integrate? I'm still on a DP 1.25 G4 (will jump to the next MacPro when released) Keith Moore
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From: CALEB Heineman <calebheineman@adelphia.net>
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 at 10:39:36 PM
Subject: All new overdubs to existing songs are playing back delayed
Message #226849
Help! I'm using Logic Pro 7.2.3 on a mac mini 1.66 core duo with 2 gigs of ram. I have been using this system flawlessly for a year, but now when I record new audio into any of my songs, it's delayed. In order to compensate and play parts back correctly I have to set a delay of -105 in the arrange window. I've heard of terrible latency on the way in, but never on playback. What should I try? any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanking you in advance, Caleb.
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From: "peterlemer" <plemer@nildram.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 at 3:40:31 PM
Subject: [LUG] New Intel user needs help
Message #226850
Hi folks, I'm back with a small menu of probs - would really welcome help or pointers to relevant topics. Commissioning my new Mac Pro 2.66 I've got all my Intel-ready plugins working and have successfully loaded an 11- Audio track song. MIDI works, too. An important reason that I upgraded was that with my G5 1.6 ( with 3 G RAM) and the samples on a 2nd internal dedicated SATA drive Synthogy Ivory could only deliver 44-note polyphony ( before 'Disc slow' error). (RME Fireface 800) Problem 1. Placing the same sample drive in the Mac Pro, I now get 54-note polyphony. Any suggestions on how to improve this? Seems a lot to spend for another 10 notes :-) (£100 a note) Would Native Command Queuing make a difference, and of so, how to I turn it on? Also willing to try putting 2 matched drives in to act as a software striped Raid array. ( Or a Raptor?) Problem 2. Even more daunting atm is the fact that I can't play the song without an immediate 'Core audio' alert and the song hangs. This even happens when I switch the Audio Engine to internal audio. Problem 3. Troubleshooting the above has had me alter the Audio Engine buffer size and hardware back and forth, and it takes at least 3 times longer to 'relaunch' than under my G5. Problem 4. Loading a new song takes a similar multiple of G5 times. Problem 5. Loading a new song takes over Finder. I can't click anywhere. On the G5, I could happily do anything I wanted with any other app. during load times. Could this be entirely due to the fact that I only have 1Gig RAM in there? Activity Monitor shows an enormous amoung of Virtual Memory for Logic and my other apps. and my weak knowledge of Mac tells me that this requires a lot of HD access. Does the drive have to work constantly because I haven't enough RAM and is this the simple solution to problems 2 -5 ? I also suspect that there might be some crucial differences with the change to Intel but I can't tell what's what - I'm only 3 days into this new beast. tia peter
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