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From: "bartdemylle" <bartdemylle@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 2:52:54 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Logic not recognizing usb instruments
Message #226801
This is a reply to #226790.
In an earlier post I said the USB cable supplied with CME has a different plug. That's correct, but since a few minutes ago I found out why Logic does not receive midi in messages when using the cable supplied with my MOTU fastlane midi interface. Yesterday I bought a USB extension cable, as the CME cable is too short for my setup. After having played the first few notes, Logic Express does not receive any data anymore. This kind of behaviour does not occur when using a smaller cable together with the extension cable. And today I found out that the fastlane usb cable is even longer. No wonder that Logic Express did not receive any midi message. So if you're using a longer cable than the one supplied with the CME, this could be causing your problems.
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From: "bartdemylle" <bartdemylle@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 2:39:47 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Logic not recognizing usb instruments
Message #226802
This is a reply to #226790.
Hi Ali, two important questions: 1. does your CME appear in the audio/midi configuration of OSX? (programs>utilities) If not: you did not install the CME driver or did install it the wrong way. 2. do you use the cable supplied with the CME? This one is rather short, so I another one. I had the same problems like you until I discovered that the plug to insert in your CME differs from the USB cables commonly used in Europe. USB stands for Universal Serial Bus, but forget about the universal.... About the different USB-plug: I'm quite willing to prove it to all non-believers with a pic of the CME plug and pics from my other USB plugs. Just send me an e-mail.
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From: "HKC" <hkc@surfpost.dk>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 3:03:39 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Vocal Mic Recommendations
Message #226803
This is a reply to #226794.
Mercenery Audio has these listed for U.S. $1,450 (1,086 Euros). You have to add shipping and 20-30 procent of the entire sum which would bring this one up to almost 2000 dollars. Maybe with this new lower price tag they will sell more and bring the other high end mics a bit down in price too. It's still ridiculous that the U87 is twice as expensive as a UMT70s when they are basically the same and impossible to tell apart soundwise. I bet if Gefell had chosen to stay with the can look they would be taken more seriously. Ironically the Gefell have a much better design in use but they don'´t look like most people expect them to. PS I love the Gefells so I also love the Neumanns it's just the price difference I find over the top.
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From: "bartdemylle" <bartdemylle@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 3:28:12 AM
Subject: [LUG] USB cable length
Message #226804
I found this information on http://www.usb.org/about/faq/ans5 Q1: How long of a cable can I use to connect my device? A1: In practice, the USB specification limits the length of a cable between full speed devices to 5 meters (a little under 16 feet 5 inches). For a low speed device the limit is 3 meters (9 feet 10 inches). Q2: Why can't I use a cable longer than 3 or 5m? A2: USB's electrical design doesn't allow it. When USB was designed, a decision was made to handle the propagation of electromagnetic fields on USB data lines in a way that limited the maximum length of a USB cable to something in the range of 4m. This method has a number of advantages and, since USB is intended for a desktop environment, the range limitations were deemed acceptable. If you're familiar with transmission line theory and want more detail on this topic, take a look at the USB signals section of the developers FAQ.
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From: Giles Cross <gilescross@creativeopolis.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 5:53:01 AM
Subject: Sound Card for G5
Message #226805
Hi Folks, I'm looking for a decent sound card for an Apple Mac G5 2.5 Quad (pre-intel) that will allow me to record multiple tracks simultaneously into Logoc Pro 7. I'm using a Behringer 1222fx mixer with group output and so just need a few pointers as to what to look for regarding a sound card. Also, when I upgrade will the new sound card fit and work OK when it's installed in a Mac Pro? Many thanks :)
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From: Jazzman 321 <jazzman321@optonline.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 6:02:56 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Logic 8
Message #226806
I've been able to get by to this point with Logic 7.1.1. Thinking I'd be ahead of the game ignoring the 7.2 update, I waited until just this past week, and in a complete change of heart, decided to spring for the update. Interestingly, I did so, assuming Logic 8 is just around the corner. Why, you ask? Consider this... While awaiting Logic 8, I had the disturbing notion at one point, that if '8' is problematic or awkward or seems to require a complete re-read of the docs, I would feel more comfortable sticking with '7' until the problems are behind us. As someone who is about to pounce on the next Mac Pro (been hobbling along with a Quicksilver G4), I wanted something that would run natively on an Intel-based Mac that was stable and familiar. I could work very nicely in Logic 7.2.3 until, (dare I say?) Logic Pro 8.1 ships. If I wind up running 7.2.3 for six months, it will be worth the cost of the update. Jazzman 321 - When in doubt, crank up the jazz - ---
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From: tony vincent <aps@tonyvincent.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 6:41:37 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Vocal Mic Recommendations
Message #226807
a fantastic mic is the Lawson 251... taking a nod at the ELAM/ Telefunken 251 http://lawsonmicrophones.com/l251.html these mics are BRILLIANT!! you must check them out before you buy anything. peace tv -- http://www.tonyvincent.com http://www.myspace.com/tonyvincent
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From: David Howey <dave@creswick.plus.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 7:10:12 AM
Subject: [LAW] Using my ESXP24 samples in EXS24?
Message #226808
Dear all, I recently upgraded from Logic 5.5 to Logic 5.5 Platinum on PC. These are all fairly old products because I'm still on a PC with XP, but they work very well. I used the logic 'big box' deal (with the basic Logic 5.5) for many years (purchased in 2002). However I can't get my EXsamples (previously used with EXSP24) to show up in EXS24 in Logic platinum. I've moved them all over to the folder 'C:Program FilesemagicLogic 5Sampler Instruments' but in logic they don't show up in EXS24 in the instrument editor etc. All the file types are .wav or .aif What is the problem? If anyone can help I would appreciate it, especially because I have this great sample CD called 'Xtreme Analog Samples' which is really great and I want to use it. Thanks Dave
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From: "bartdemylle" <bartdemylle@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 9:20:26 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] CC's to programm remote control in LE
Message #226809
This is a reply to #226785.
> Forget about the names, you are not conrolling a General MIDI device > but individual pieces of software, plugins. Select the track where > your plugin sits. Open the plugin window. Now open the Controller > Assignments and enable the "Learn" button. Move the element in the > plugin window with your mouse, then move a knob or fader on the > keyboard. Disable the learn button. Hi Peter, thanks to your tip I can finally edit sounds "on the fly" instead of having to use the mouse. I noticed that in the arrangement window I had to choose "view track automation" and then select the parameter which I wanted to change. Do you know if it's possible to simultaneously change two parameters of the same plugin, for instance cutoff and resonance, and have Logic record these changes? Which supported surface do you use? Kind regards, Bart
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From: Hans Jensen <searchdiver@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 9:19:08 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: DM24 with Logic
Message #226810
This is a reply to #226796.
> --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:logic-users%40yahoogroups.com> , > Hans Jensen <searchdiver@...> wrote: >> > Logic keeps giving me an error >> > message that the HUI can¹t be found. > > The only way the host knows if the HUI is there or not is by > sending/receiving a single-note "ping" every one second or so - the > HUI (or emulation) MUST echo this note back to the host. > > If no note is received from the host by the HUI in 2 seconds, the HUI > should go offline (but wake up again when it does receive a ping). > > If the host doesn't get the ping echoed back by the HUI, what happens > is up to the host (Logic complains endlessly, as you have discovered). > > Sounds like the Tascam HUI emulation has some issues, or is not > communicating correctly. Take a look with MIDI Monitor and see if the > HUI is echoing the note back. > > John Pitcairn > > Thanks, I¹ll check this out. Hans Jensen
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From: "Andy Hardwake" <andyhardwake@mac.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 9:26:05 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Logic 8
Message #226811
This is a reply to #226769.
> On my machine (MacBook Intel 1.83 dual+ 002Rack), Logic is not that > stable. > I just had an OS X crash with Blue Screen of Death and my song won't > play anymore. I am 99.(9)% sure this is caused by Digi CoreAudio driver, which makes the whole system really unstable. Just like any native Digi hardware, 002 rig is rock solid under PT, but next to unusable in any CoreAudio app, including Logic. Just an opinion of a former Digi user. Best, Andy -- Andy Hardwake Composer/Producer http://www.myspace.com/andyhardwake
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From: Jampig <daemdrahcir@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 9:39:10 AM
Subject: Only 3 instenaces of EVB3 avaiable
Message #226812
Hi When trying to use more than 3 instances of evb3 the plugin appears but makes not noise. Any ideas? Thanks
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From: "subginge" <ginge@subgud.org>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 9:53:02 AM
Subject: [LUG] Logic uses 16.777.216,00 TB RAM
Message #226813
Hi all! I'm using MacPro Dual 2.66 with 4 GB RAM and just discovered that in the Activity Monitor, whenever a song uses more than 2 GB, the Real Memory cell in the monitor jumps to 16.777.216,00 TB, which is strange to say the least. I suspect that might be one of the reasons why Logic is very unstabile in certain projects. I have been suspecting Kontakt2 or Altiverb but they're just helping pushing Logic over that limit. This doesn't happen on G5s to my knowledge. It would be interesting to hear if any MacPro users can get a sane reading from the Activity Monitor once a project crosses the 2 GB border. I've read two other posts on Apple's Logic discussion forum from people with the same symptoms. Have a nice weekend! Ginge
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From: Clem Desoto <janalisam@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 10:09:19 AM
Subject: Logic Express launch problem
Message #226814
I have only been a MAC /Logic user for about 6 weeks. Coming from the PC world, and being a former Audtion and Cubase user, at first I hated Logic but now I'm starting to really, really enjoy it. Since my version of Logic Express did not come with a secret de-coder ring, I've had to rely on a lot of great info here which has helped tremendously. I have also burnt out my retinas endlessly scanning the manual. The environment is still a huge mystery to me but, otherwise, Logic is great to work with. I recently updated to 7.2.1, as well as OSX 10.4.9. I now find that about 1 out of every 5 times I try to open LE, I get a "Logic has failed to open" message and I must force quit to close it. A restart always returns all to normal. The last time this occured I also tried to open Garageband after force quiting LE. GB gave me the same message. This only seems to happen with LE/GB and no other app. Perhaps it is an OSX issue and, since I am a noober for both Mac and LE, perhaps its a dumb user issue. In any case, any thoughts or suggestions for a solution would be greatly appreciated. I have an 20" 2.16 Intel core 2 iMac, 2 GB RAM, 160 GB LaCie external HD.
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From: "David Morton" <dmorton@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 10:34:11 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Vocal Mic Recommendations
Message #226815
This is a reply to #226803.
On 3/31/07, HKC <hkc@surfpost.dk> wrote: > Ironically the Gefell have a much better design in use but they don'´t look like most people expect them to. Have you tried the UM900? I keep hearing very good things about it, but have yet to get an opportunity to try for myself.
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From: Peter Ostry <po@ostry.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 1:21:37 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] CC's to programm remote control in LE
Message #226816
This is a reply to #226809.
On 31.03.2007, at 16:20, bartdemylle wrote: > I noticed that in the arrangement window I had to choose "view > track automation" and then > select the parameter which I wanted to change. ? Sounds strange. The elements in the plugin window should move when you operate your controller. Then Logic gets the right messages. It shouldn't be necessary to show the automation or select anything there. > Do you know if it's possible to simultaneously > change two parameters of the same plugin, for instance cutoff and > resonance, and have Logic > record these changes? Logic records automation if you set the automation menu of the channelstrip to "touch" or "latch". You can operate as many knobs simultaneously as you want. No need to watch in an automation view. Actually you need more graphics power while you observe the writing process. > Which supported surface do you use? I use LC Xmu, a software which emulates a Logic Control. I have two instances of LC Xmu, that means Logic "sees" two Logic Controls. I have a bunch of other controllers, they go either to LC Xmu or are mapped on demand in the environment. The latter is not possible with Logic Express. ___ Peter Ostry
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From: "HKC" <hkc@surfpost.dk>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 12:45:51 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Vocal Mic Recommendations
Message #226817
This is a reply to #226815.
Have you tried the UM900? I keep hearing very good things about it, but have yet to get an opportunity to try for myself. Sorry no, I only found out about the UMT70s because I did some backing vocals in another studio years ago. They had one and I liked it a lot so I checked it out. I used to do backing vocals more or less as a job so I had tried all the standard mics by the time my roads crossed with Gefell. Gefell is a well kept secret and I have never seen any of the other mics that they produce. I have seen some reviewed and according to those they are great but no hands on experience.
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From: "bartdemylle" <bartdemylle@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 12:53:42 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: External STOP command (why twice?)
Message #226818
This is a reply to #226381.
I'm working with a CME too. The trouble is that the stop and back too zero command in Logic is different from the information CME sends. So: stop pressing stop once = pause, pressing stop twice = back to zero pressing back to zero just does not work All the other buttons and faders are working, they just need some programming. If you need any help: just send me a message.
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From: "HKC" <hkc@surfpost.dk>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 12:56:33 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: Vocal Mic Recommendations
Message #226819
This is a reply to #226807.
a fantastic mic is the Lawson 251... taking a nod at the ELAM/ Telefunken 251 Hmmm this guy has 800 GBP, the Lawson is twice that. I agree with you it's a nice one but this is the kind of mic you buy when you have everything else and money is of little concern.
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From: "rythm4you2" <rythm4you2@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 11:34:36 AM
Subject: [LUG] Track Automation help
Message #226820
Could someone please help me with this issue? I am mixing a few audio tracks for which I am trying to add smooth and continuous volume and pan changes. I have drawn in the changes I think I want, but for some strange reason, when I play back the track, the volumne automation is "choppy" - it fluctuates up and down sporadically when it should be moving smoothly. This is also happening with a Send 1 automation (where I have a reverb set). Does anyone know why this may be happening - it would be nice for the volume to change smoothly! My setup: G4/500 Logic 7.2 Motu 2408mkii interface Thanks for any help or insight someone can provide! Jose
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From: Sean McCoy <osr@jeffnet.org>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 11:50:38 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: Vocal Mic Recommendations
Message #226821
This is a reply to #226807.
At 04:41 AM 3/31/2007, you wrote: >a fantastic mic is the Lawson 251... taking a nod at the ELAM/ >Telefunken 251 ><http://lawsonmicrophones.com/l251.html>http://lawsonmicrophones.c om/l251.html >these mics are BRILLIANT!! >you must check them out before you buy anything. >peace >tv Lawson does make great mics. I have their L47MP, and other than being a bit bright on strident female vocals (that's why I have an AEA R84), it's my go-to mic the majority of the time. These mics are significantly out of the price range of the original poster, however.
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From: Chico Freeman <chicofreeman@mac.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 12:49:08 PM
Subject: AU Validation in Waveburner
Message #226822
I just clean installed OS X 10.4.8 and Logic Pro 7.2.3 on a brand new 320 gig HD with Waves Platinum Bundle latest update 5.x. My AU Validation went smoothly with Logic but it gets stuck with Waveburner and until now I have not been able to open Waveburner at all. It never gets past the Waves L3 Ultramaximizer AU plugin. What can I do to remedy this situation.
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From: Colin Shapiro <musos@icon.co.za>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 6:18:49 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] AU Validation in Waveburner
Message #226823
This is a reply to #226822.
>Message posted by Chico Freeman <chicofreeman@mac.com>: > >I just clean installed OS X 10.4.8 and Logic Pro 7.2.3 on a brand new 320 >gig HD with Waves Platinum Bundle latest update 5.x. My AU Validation went >smoothly with Logic but it gets stuck with Waveburner and until now I have >not been able to open Waveburner at all. It never gets past the Waves L3 >Ultramaximizer AU plugin. What can I do to remedy this situation. Here's something that might help: There's a small app called AUmanager which you can get here for free: http://www.grantedsw.com/aum/ It allows you to create different sets of AU plugins for different purposes. What it does is this: In your folder Yourdrive/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins is a folder called Components where all your AU's are stored. AUmanager creates a new folder called Components (Disabled). Let's say you have a complete set of AU's for Logic, but you only want basic stuff (or nothing) for Waveburner. Make a new cut-down set. The "unwanted plugins are moved to the Disabled folder. Use Waveburner When you're done, re-select your full set or your Logic set - the plugins are moved back to where they were. Simple, easy and it works well. Hope this helps Colin
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From: PrjStd@aol.com
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 7:38:26 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Track Automation help
Message #226824
ould someone please help me with this issue? I am mixing a few audio tracks for which I am trying to add smooth and continuous volume and pan changes. I have drawn in the changes I think I want, but for some strange reason, when I play back the track, the volumne automation is "choppy" - it fluctuates up and down sporadically when it should be moving smoothly. This is also happening with a Send 1 automation (where I have a reverb set). Does anyone know why this may be happening - it would be nice for the volume to change smoothly! --------------------------------------------------------- Sounds like you have 2 types of automaion data going. Check your events list for cntrl. #7(vol) and 10 (panning) data .If u find any erase them . This should solve your problem. Joel
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From: Dave Katz <dkatz@dkatz.org>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 at 4:27:30 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Logic uses 16.777.216,00 TB RAM
Message #226825
This is a reply to #226813.
On Mar 31, 2007, at 7:53 AM, subginge wrote: > I'm using MacPro Dual 2.66 with 4 GB RAM and just discovered that > in the Activity Monitor, > whenever a song uses more than 2 GB, the Real Memory cell in the > monitor jumps to > 16.777.216,00 TB, which is strange to say the least. I suspect that > might be one of the > reasons why Logic is very unstabile in certain projects. I have > been suspecting Kontakt2 or > Altiverb but they're just helping pushing Logic over that limit. > This doesn't happen on G5s to > my knowledge. It would be interesting to hear if any MacPro users > can get a sane reading > from the Activity Monitor once a project crosses the 2 GB border. > I've read two other posts on > Apple's Logic discussion forum from people with the same symptoms. Sounds like a simple sign extension bug in Activity Monitor; the high order bit gets set, a signed extension to 64 bits is done, and then its displayed as an unsigned number, or something like that. This has nothing at all to do with Logic.
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