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From: Gio <gio@deafmule.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 at 3:39:34 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Finally some upcoming Logic rumors!!! Yippeeeeeeeeeee!
Message #225451
This is a reply to #225449.
On Feb 28, 2007, at 3:00 PM, Clive Young wrote: > I think this is drawing a long bow from a rumour on Apple Insider > about some patents issued in Apple's name via Gerhard Lengeling. > Don't hold your breath. > Cheers > Clive Young > Yep, been seeing these patents too. Frameless keyboard, audio rhythmic correction, etc. Neat! Wonder if Logic 8 will be Logic 8 or Garage-Band Super Pro V3 ;) Ciao Gio
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From: Maurits van de Kamp <maurits@bassment.nu>
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 at 4:25:28 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Recommendations for a Vocoder
Message #225452
This is a reply to #225443.
>> While we're on this topic, I wish the pitch corrector in Logic could >> follow a melody that is input via MIDI. Would I be correct in >> assuming there are third-party plug-ins (autotune?) that can do this? >> > > Why not use the Vocoder that comes with Logic Pro? > Because that's not a pitch corrector? :o) Indeed Autotune does this, and I think Melodyne too. Maurits.
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From: Peter Ostry <po@ostry.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 at 4:53:40 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] MicroKontrol issues...recomendations for controllers..
Message #225453
This is a reply to #225448.
On 28.02.2007, at 20:29, akelaaudio wrote: > I have been using a Korg Microkontrol with logic for a while, and up > to this point have had no major issues. However, lately when recording > or just playing, the pitch goes haywire and detunes as if I were > messing with the joystick. Is this possibly a problem with the > keyboard, which was refurbished, or a setting in logic that I have > overlooked? Can be anything, from controller to automation. Disconnecting the controller should tell you on which side the failure is. > ... I want to get a better controller anyways, does anyone > have any recomendations? Difficult question. The microKONTROL is a multi-input device and there aren't much of that type on the market. If you just don't like the tiny keys, there is the KONTROL 49 which is basicly the same but bigger. I think the best controller for Logic is still the Mackie. But it costs a lot more. How can we interpret "better controller"? Could you tell what you expect and what disturbes your friendship with the microKONTROL? ___ Peter Ostry
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From: Peter Ostry <po@ostry.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 at 6:57:58 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Finally some upcoming Logic rumors!!! Yippeeeeeeeeeee!
Message #225454
This is a reply to #225451.
On 28.02.2007, at 22:39, Gio wrote: > Wonder if Logic 8 will be Logic 8 or Garage-Band Super Pro V3 Logic will be integrated in Final Cut. It will not support third party software and save only in the upcoming AE (Apple Entertainment) format. There will be no XS Key, the available features depend directly on your purchases via the iTunes shop. Apple cares about your rights. Copy protection will be integrated in every song you compose. The program adds a unique digital watermark and nobody can copy your song. You can't either so you are perfectly save. AppleLoops will see a major overhaul. They will no longer adopt to the song key and tempo but rather set your song according to the loops which lets them sound much more authentic. Video gets synchronized either. Exchanging loops will automatically re-order the video sequences to speed up the cutting process. The note editors get dropped and will be replaced by a new tool based on musical phrases. There will be a selection of all important music styles interpreted by the best players of the world, ready to give your song the final touch. There will be no MIDI, we know that already. And of course no environment and cryptic event lists. A new built-in sensor will automatically connect to hardware and transform and automatically map it's parameters to the instruments in your arrangement. The big manufacturers are already developing devices to support that system. Orchestral composers will be very pleased. Since many instruments are more or less identical you just choose the size of the orchestra. Sonic details are of course maintained. It needs just one click to put a virtual wooden box around a harp and turn it into a piano - like in the real world. And Apple acquired VSL. All samples got modified to support Ultrabeat. Ultrabeat itself will replace the arrange window. Good news for bass players: you can stay at home. That isn't really an instrument and the fifty notes you play per hour can easily be generated by the application. ___ Peter Ostry
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From: Scott Geselle <Skottkeys@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 at 6:14:04 PM
Subject: Processing Power
Message #225455
Hey guys, Quick question about processing power in Logic Pro 7 : I use alot of software instruments / plugins and I'm trying to decide whether to buy a DUAL 1.6 ghz G4 (2gb max Ram), or a SINGLE 1.6 ghz G5 (4+gb RAM). They're about the same cost,& I understand logic is built for dual processors, but I wonder if the extra ram (and the fact that it's a G5) would be better? Any experience / suggestions would be helpful. Thanks! -Scott Logic Pro 7/ mac G4 733mhz/ osX 10.3.8
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From: Anthony Petosa <aspsa@optonline.net>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 at 2:49:29 AM
Subject: SysEx Fader for Triton Rack...
Message #225456
I typically use my Triton Rack in MultiMode. Suppose I want to control an editable program parameter such as Filter Frequency with a fader set to transmit system exclusive messages. The simplest way to do is to expose the fader's SysEx event list, click on the "Midi In" button and then alter the Filter Frequency parameter from the Triton's menu system. That's fine. Unfortunately, the Triton menu system does not allow access to program parameters when in MultiMode. One must first switch to "Program Mode" and then activate that mode's menu system. I hope you see where this is going... It's extremely counter-productive to switch Triton modes while working. Let's say there are multiple tracks in play, and they collectively trigger several different MIDI channels on the Triton operating in MultiMode. Suppose I want to define a SysEx fader for a sound's parameter currently assigned to MIDI channel 3. In this scenario I'm not interested in loading a full-fledged Triton environment; I'm only interested in a single SysEx fader. After I create the fader, I'm forced to switch out of MultiMode into Program Mode. Naturally, this wreaks havoc on playback. The track in question is communicating on the port's channel 3. Now, one option is to change it two channel one in the multi-instrument options, which isn't such a good idea as any unintended alterations (eg, mistaken program change) will affect all other tracks using that multi-instrument on that MIDI channel. Okay, so I move on over to the Triton Rack and change its base MIDI channel to 3. Argh... My intent is to simply audition the parameter control. Basically, I'd like to loop a few measures, and play around with the SysEx fader in real time, including reassigning which parameter I wish to control and affecting these changes in real time. As it stands the Triton's menu limitation truly interrupts the creative work flow. My question follows. I'd like to avoid digging into the Triton's MIDI implementation for the SysEx message that encompasses the Filter Frequency parameter. Does anyone have a viable solution? I don't mean to single out the Triton, as the problems occurs with any synth functioning in MultiMode not having a very navigable menu system. Thanks for your help. Cheers...
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From: "Paul Stephenson" <pauls@pswerks.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 at 12:37:16 PM
Subject: RE: [LUG] Finally some upcoming Logic rumors!!! Yippeeeeeeeeeee!
Message #225457
This is a reply to #225447.
>:)))))))) >Sign me up, >I have my credit card in hand........ >I'm at the apple store door, waiting for it to open. >You made our day here at the studio. >I forwarded it to everybody and I could hear the laughs from control >room to control room >Ciao >Gio You mean Peter wasn't serious. I just fired Dre, Timba, and Sander K b/c I thought it was going to be automatic! ;) Paul
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From: "pancenter" <hwooten@dakotacom.net>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 at 2:16:06 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Toontrack EZ Drummer compatible with Logic 5.5 (windows)
Message #225458
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "JR" wrote: > > > >I am considering buying EZ DRUMMER, but have heard that the there > >are compatibily issues with Logic Platinum 5.5. Can anyone advise? > >Thanks. J. > > > >RE the above question. I got a reply from their support team and it >says "Yes, Logic 5.5 is not supported. Here is a list of supported >applications : http://www.toontrack.com/forum/tm.aspx?m969" FYI, I set up EZDrummer for a small local studio running Logic 5.5.1. This was right after it came out, version 1.01. Seemed to work fine, you have to jump through the usual Logic hoops to get multichannel output but as I recall, it was stable and I never heard back from them about problems. The stock kit it shipped with sounded pretty good and looked to be a good deal for under $200usd. HW
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From: Chad Jack <DJCHADJACK@AOL.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 at 1:05:11 PM
Subject: How do I use the Match Eq?
Message #225459
Hi, Can someone please explain to me step by step how to use the Match Eq? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks! CJ
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From: "lubimi" <cobb@movingcanvas.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 at 2:25:04 PM
Subject: [LUG] Opening file from DAE system on Core system
Message #225460
I posted this message on the Apple newsgroup, and received some good suggestions, but still have no success. I have old files, done on Logic using DAE/DTDM/ESB, and want to open them on the Core system I now have. The problem is that I can't see presets I used on my plugs (Atmosphere, Stormdrum, etc.) because they are now "crossed" out and when I change the "instrument" input from DAE to CoreAudio a new fader opens and the plug-in is then blank. All I want to do is open the plug to see what presets I previously used. Is there any way to discover which presets I used on any particular plug-in I used on a DAE track when opened on a Core system. I no longer have access to the DAE system. I have tried deleting all the DAE objects, then saving and reloading the file in hopes that Logic would ask me if I want to open the file in CoreAudio. All of the tracks I'm concerned with are DTDM Instrument tracks. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Cobb
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From: Andy Hardwake <andyhardwake@mac.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 at 3:22:14 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Opening file from DAE system on Core system
Message #225461
This is a reply to #225460.
On 3/1/2007 12:25 PM, lubimi wrote: > I posted this message on the Apple newsgroup, and received some good > suggestions, but still have no success. > I guess the only option is to ask someone on Logic TDM list to try converting it for you, provided that person has the plugs you used on that session. Best, Andy -- Andy Hardwake Composer/Producer <http://www.myspace.com/andyhardwake>;
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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@gmx.de>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 at 3:43:22 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Opening file from DAE system on Core system
Message #225462
This is a reply to #225460.
lubimi wrote: > I have old files, done on Logic using DAE/DTDM/ESB, and want to open > them on the Core system I now have. The problem is that I can't see > presets I used on my plugs (Atmosphere, Stormdrum, etc.) because they > are now "crossed" out and when I change the "instrument" input from > DAE to CoreAudio a new fader opens and the plug-in is then blank. All > I want to do is open the plug to see what presets I previously used. > Is there any way to discover which presets I used on any particular > plug-in I used on a DAE track when opened on a Core system. I no > longer have access to the DAE system. So, I assume you still have the plugins in question? Not that I'd have much of a hope, because I'm sure Apple messed something up (just what happened when they abandoned VST and ASIO support), but you could try the following: - Open "Audio Configuration" (Audio menu). - Under "Device", select Direct TDM (or DAE, whatever it was before). - Select "Edit > Copy". - Select "CoreAudio" under "Device". - Select "Edit > Paste". In case you're lucky, your plugins will be placed properly, with their settings and all. Regards Sascha
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From: miranda Driessen <being@onemanifest.net>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 at 3:10:24 PM
Subject: plugin not bounced
Message #225463
Hi, A strange thing appears when bouncing a file containing logic-plugins: When I start bouncing from the spot where the plugins come in they are processed perfectly in the bounce. Also when I playback the file, everything is ok. But when I try to bounce the whole piece, the plugins, which are at the very end of it, are not played back at all. Does anyone of you have a solution to this? thanks, Miranda
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From: user_one@mac.com <user_one@mac.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 at 3:11:43 PM
Subject: Re: Processing Power
Message #225464
This is a reply to #225455.
When I read your post I looked at the date to see from what year it was because you did not mention the Intel CPU :) I would go for an Intel Mac! Intel Macs are way faster as PPC....
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From: Peter Ostry <po@ostry.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 at 4:45:30 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] plugin not bounced
Message #225465
This is a reply to #225463.
On 01.03.2007, at 22:10, miranda Driessen wrote: > When > I start bouncing from the spot where the plugins come in they are > processed > perfectly in the bounce. Also when I playback the file, everything > is ok. > But when I try to bounce the whole piece, the plugins, which are at > the very > end of it, are not played back at all. You could try to move your song end a bit to the right or the cycle longer if you use that for bouncing. But more likely - is there probably some automation before that position which has a chance to suppress the sound? Volume, muting, disabling, parameter change? Not necessarily on that chanel but maybe a send to it or something like that.
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From: miranda Driessen <being@onemanifest.net>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 at 5:39:57 PM
Subject: Re: plugin not bounced
Message #225466
This is a reply to #225465.
Thanks! This in fact was the problem: a quick change in the volume automation of another track, just before the track with the plugins started. Miranda
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From: jrob <jrob6716@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 at 6:14:45 PM
Subject: OSX Logic User... Am I an Authorized to use the PC version?
Message #225467
hello.. weird ??? here.. I am a legit owner of Logic and have been using it on OSX for quite a while.. Recently with the ability to run XP on my mac I have wanted to run logic on the PC side because of the many plugins that are available on the PC side.. So my question is, since I have a legit copy with dongle and all, will i be able to install the pc version ( If I can get a hold of the installer that it ) since its an older version? Thanks in advance.. J
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From: "biggadibong" <biggadibong@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 at 6:00:57 PM
Subject: [LUG] Can I make audio mixer open when I double click an audio track?
Message #225468
Whenever I double click on an audio track in the arrange window it goes to some kind of track mixer that includes midi tracks but doesn't include buses and inputs and stuff that are in the audio mixer when I go in there. Is there a way of making the audio mixer open up whenever I double click an audio track in the arrange window? cheers b
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From: "lubimi" <cobb@movingcanvas.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 at 5:29:02 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Opening file from DAE system on Core system
Message #225469
This is a reply to #225462.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@...> wrote: > > lubimi wrote: > > I have old files, done on Logic using DAE/DTDM/ESB, and want to open > > them on the Core system I now have. The problem is that I can't see > > presets I used on my plugs (Atmosphere, Stormdrum, etc.) because they > > are now "crossed" out and when I change the "instrument" input from > > DAE to CoreAudio a new fader opens and the plug-in is then blank. All > > I want to do is open the plug to see what presets I previously used. > > Is there any way to discover which presets I used on any particular > > plug-in I used on a DAE track when opened on a Core system. I no > > longer have access to the DAE system. > > So, I assume you still have the plugins in question? > Not that I'd have much of a hope, because I'm sure Apple messed something up > (just what happened when they abandoned VST and ASIO support), but you could > try the following: > - Open "Audio Configuration" (Audio menu). > - Under "Device", select Direct TDM (or DAE, whatever it was before). > - Select "Edit > Copy". > - Select "CoreAudio" under "Device". > - Select "Edit > Paste". > > In case you're lucky, your plugins will be placed properly, with their > settings and all. > > Regards > Sascha > Thanks Sascha, I have tried this and it doesn't work. I get the message "No Audio Configuration found for CoreAudio." I have even tried building some CoreAudio tracks (so there would be tracks to copy to), but I got the same message. I'm getting the feeling that this isn't possible. Thanks, Cobb
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From: George Leger III <george3@utopiaparkwaymusic.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 at 7:50:21 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] OSX Logic User... Am I an Authorized to use the PC version?
Message #225470
This is a reply to #225467.
On Mar 1, 2007, at 4:14 PM, jrob wrote: > hello.. > > weird ??? here.. I am a legit owner of Logic and have been using it > on OSX > for quite a while.. Recently with the ability to run XP on my mac I > have > wanted to run logic on the PC side because of the many plugins that > are > available on the PC side.. So my question is, since I have a legit > copy with > dongle and all, will i be able to install the pc version ( If I can > get a > hold of the installer that it ) since its an older version? > > Thanks in advance.. > > J Not unless it was a PC version of Logic to start with. George Leger III ________________________________________________________ http://www.myspace.com/georgelegeriii http://www.utopiaparkwaymusic.com Mac AND PC: The only way to fly 8-}
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From: Scott Geselle <Skottkeys@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 at 8:41:40 PM
Subject: Re: Processing Power
Message #225471
This is a reply to #225464.
Yeah, I tried out an intel mac mini, but alot of my 3rd party software wouldn't work w/ it. Also the 2 computers I'm looking at ARE used, but both have alot more power than my current 733mhz G4. I guess I was just wondering if it's the G5 I want w/ all that RAM, or if the dual G4 would provide more consistant power for softsynths ect... Thanks! -scott
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From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@goodmedia.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 at 8:51:02 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Can I make audio mixer open when I double click an audio track?
Message #225472
This is a reply to #225468.
"biggadibong" <biggadibong@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >Whenever I double click on an audio track in the arrange >window it goes to some kind of track mixer that includes >midi tracks but doesn't include buses and inputs and stuff >that are in the audio mixer Read the manual regarding the Track Mixer. It allows you to view (or not view) certain classes of tracks, like MIDI, Audio, Audio Instrument, Busses etc... You just need to set the view parameters in the Track Mixer to view the type of tracks you want. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>
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From: Dan Stein <danstein@EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 at 8:10:55 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Opening file from DAE system on Core system
Message #225473
This is a reply to #225469.
>> >> lubimi wrote: >>> I have old files, done on Logic using DAE/DTDM/ESB, and want to open >>> them on the Core system I now have. The problem is that I can't see >>> presets I used on my plugs (Atmosphere, Stormdrum, etc.) because >>> they >>> are now "crossed" out and when I change the "instrument" input from >>> DAE to CoreAudio a new fader opens and the plug-in is then blank. >>> All >>> I want to do is open the plug to see what presets I previously used. >>> Is there any way to discover which presets I used on any particular >>> plug-in I used on a DAE track when opened on a Core system. I no >>> longer have access to the DAE system. >> >> So, I assume you still have the plugins in question? >> Not that I'd have much of a hope, because I'm sure Apple messed > something up >> (just what happened when they abandoned VST and ASIO support), but > you could >> try the following: >> - Open "Audio Configuration" (Audio menu). >> - Under "Device", select Direct TDM (or DAE, whatever it was before). >> - Select "Edit > Copy". >> - Select "CoreAudio" under "Device". >> - Select "Edit > Paste". >> >> In case you're lucky, your plugins will be placed properly, with >> their >> settings and all. >> >> Regards >> Sascha >> > Thanks Sascha, > > I have tried this and it doesn't work. I get the message "No Audio > Configuration found for CoreAudio." I have even tried building some > CoreAudio tracks (so there would be tracks to copy to), but I got the > same message. I'm getting the feeling that this isn't possible. > > Thanks, > Cobb > > Cobb - There's a simple solution, I just dealt with the same problem - you probably have Universal Track Mode turned on in your audio prefs, you need to turn it off (or maybe it's off and you need to turn it on?) In either case, it's a mismatch between the DAE and CoreAudio settings, once you get it sorted out Sascha's copy/paste solution should work (at least, it does for me.) Dan Stein dan@dansteingroup.com www.dansteingroup.com www.myspace.com/dansteingroup
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From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@goodmedia.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 at 8:56:00 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] OSX Logic User... Am I an Authorized to use the PC version?
Message #225474
This is a reply to #225467.
jrob <jrob6716@hotmail.com> writes: >I am a legit owner of Logic and have been using it on >OSX for quite a while.. Recently with the ability to >run XP on my mac I have wanted to run logic on the >PC side because of the many plugins that are available >on the PC side.. So my question is, since I have a >legit copy with dongle and all, will i be able to install >the pc version If you have a white XS-Key, then it cannot contain the Logic Windows authorization. I can't even contain older versions of the Mac authorizations (v5 or v6). If you have a blue XS-key, it's possible that it might already contain the Logic Windows authorization. Do you own all the PC plugins you have, or are some or all pirated? f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>
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From: George Leger III <george3@utopiaparkwaymusic.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 at 9:33:22 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] OSX Logic User... Am I an Authorized to use the PC version?
Message #225475
This is a reply to #225474.
On Mar 1, 2007, at 6:56 PM, f-erenc szabo wrote: > If you have a blue XS-key, it's possible that it might > already contain the Logic Windows authorization. > > Do you own all the PC plugins you have, or are some > or all pirated? Love THAT question ;-)) George Leger III ________________________________________________________ http://www.myspace.com/georgelegeriii http://www.utopiaparkwaymusic.com Mac AND PC: The only way to fly 8-}
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