On Sep 28, 2006, at 3:05 PM, pancenter wrote: > >Hi Luggers, > > > >I have discovered an issue with the Liquid Mix, IF you are using the > >UAD-1 or Powercore card plug-in on the same track. > > > >When you start playback, a big SNAP can be heard. > > That's an odd problem... sounds like a sample rate adjustement. > (ie: shifting from 44.1 to 48khz) > Does the LM have a default sample rate? No it doesn't > If so is it the same as your project? I imagine it is then > Does it behave this way in both Logic and Nuendo? Don't know. Only used Logic while I had the LM, as it's my main music creation platform. I suppose I should have checked this one. For the record, one of the sales guys at GC had also heard of the same issue, so I guess that it's now an isolated issue with my system, which has just been rebuilt from scratch in the last few months. > > Howard George

I have recently set up enviroments in Logic to control my hardware synths. I am using Logic 5.5 because I haven't used it much in the 4 years I've owned it so I never upgraded. I have been able to find or create enviroments for most of my older synths using sysex faders, the only problem I've had so far is creating a sysex fader that sends negative numbers -63 to +63. Except now I am completely stuck when it comes to creating faders to control my prophet VS. It uses what seem like control change messages but 4 for each parameter. I have to be honest, with standard sysex strings things were pretty easy, I would just enter the numbers, set the value byte and it would work, this has me very confused because I know it's not sysex but it's not standard CC's either. Here is an example of what the manual tells me: Bn => Channel Number 62 => param select LSB XX => LSB of param (from table in back of manual) This is a static number Bn = Channel Number 63 => param select MSB XX => MSB of param ---This is static as well Bn =Channel Number 26 => data entry LSB VAL => this is the parameter value (00-07F) Bn =Channel Number 06 => data entry LSB VAL => this param is usually only 7 bits wide so the MSB is zero-- (only a couple parameters are more, 8/10/14 bits) anyway one fader needs to send all this info to control one parameter and I can't for the life of me figure out how to do it, so I am hoping that there is somebody who can instruct me. Any help is appreciated, Thanks Brian

Hi,I am Dan Iam thinking of buying logic to edit and play my midi files.Does any of the software synths that come with it have guitar sounds? You can email me at ifunkit@yahoo.com or call me at 727 735 1770 thank's

Hi Zip. For recording you can use the Direct Hardware Monitoring. No more delay in the headphones. Hassan

I have Battery 2. I have it instantiated as a multi instrument. I have 16 aux channels set up with the inputs selected as the Battery outputs. I have drum cells outputting to the separate aux channels. In Battery I can select each cells output channel from the options of stereo channels of 1 & 2, 3 & 4, 5 & 6 etc up to 15 & 16. Then the options are mono channels from 17 to 32. This describes the options in the cell output channel flip down menu. I don't know how to set the output options to 32 mono channels. Another problem I have is I can't select any channels in Logics aux input field above 16. So at the moment I have 8 stereo channels set up in Logics auxes eg 1 & 2 etc up to 15 & 16. I would like to be able to use the other 16 channels. And be able to select all 32 channels in Logic either as 16 stereo channels or 32 mono channels. Also in Battery V1 I used to be able to audition new drums while the sequence was playing by opening the finder window and scrolling down the contents of say a snares folder with the up down arrow keys. Now I have to click with the mouse because the arrows keys don't scroll. And I think I could also use the apple + arrows key commands to navigate in and out of folders. Now I have to mouse around everything. Am I missing something. This is a step backwards in functionality and a step forwards to pissing me off, straining my eyes and promoting RSI. Thanks for any help Roman. Yahoo! Groups Links

>Dan Hoskins <ifunkit@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Hi,I am Dan >Iam thinking of buying logic to edit and play my midi files.Does any of the software synths >that come with it have guitar sounds? You can email me at ifunkit@yahoo.com or call me at >727 735 1770 thank's In my opinion, the guitar sounds that are part of the package are not realistic guitar sounds. THey are simulated to the point of non materisitlc sounds. What I did was went to went to Ebay and ordered wav files of live horns, guitars, basses and a lot of different instruments that were recorded at 44.1khz. They are real live instruments in loops and single notes. Let me know if you need additional help. Thanks

> Iam thinking of buying logic to edit and play my midi files.Does > any of the software synths > that come with it have guitar sounds? The EXS24 sampleplayer in Logic comes with some samples of a completely clean (directly plugged in) guitar. This, combined with Logic's guitar amp simulation plugin Guitar Amp Pro gives quite realistic results, at least for solos and powerchords. Funky grooves might be a bit more difficult. :o) Maurits.

Hi there, has anyone set up networked Macs using AUNetSend, AUNetReceive and network MIDI to use a second Mac as a "sound-module"? I can get it to work no problem, but Logic becomes _extremely_ unstable using it and crashes very very soon (> 5 minutes of working, well... trying out) I was using the built-in audio interfaces on both Macs just to make sure it's not a third-party driver problem. Any thoughts? Cheers Hans Sytem: Logic 7.2.2 Dual G5 2.0 / 2.5 GB RAM OS X 10.4.7 MetricHalo MobileIO 2882 Unitor8

Ok, thanks, but what do I do next? The VstPlugIns dir is in place in the Logic5 dir, but logic still dosn't start but freezes on ! "Initializing external sample editor communication" . So what is logic doing there - somthing to do with log_ds.ax? And where does that file come from? It dosn't appear when I reinstall logic ( update 5.5.1. or 5.3) but it didn't appear. Tried a file from a friend, but it doesn't work. Ole

Two questions here: 1. When i am making tracks i do my processing of audio instruyments and softsynths and it all sounds good. However, when i bounce down the the individual melody or hook or bassline that i am making (say of 4 / 8 / 0r 16 bars) it always sound a bit 'flat' when i reimport it. I obviously do this to save CPU and cant risk running complex plugins/softsynths with heavy processing so am forced to but the audio always sounds less exciting and dull than when it was conceived of as the effected output of an audio instrument. Are there any ways arounf this? Any tips? 2. Also does anyone know of any good links that help to decipher the construction of any types of dance/ electronic music. I would like tyo know genre 'rules', specific types of sounds for specific types of dance music and how to construct and arrnge them. I would be most grateful for any info on these subjects cheers john

hiya been a long time user of logic. used to be a member of this forum ages ago. blah blah the question. when i set up a rewire channel i have the choice of 64 ableton channels (great!) but only 32 reason channels. is there some kind of setting i need to make in audio prefs or a buss setting? i really need all 64 channels of Reason. thanks for your help aron

Thanks a lot, I think I've got it sorted. I hope.

First I have to say I respect the fact that you actually did the testing. I am endlessly amazed at how much energy people ask questions that they could answer for themselves. On Sep 29, 2006, at 5:00 PM, darealbasoski wrote: > Well, I came back today and did the same thing again, now on a 0 dB > realtime bounce. > Same thing happened. So it's actually NOT the panning law... > I now end up with actually less audio being canceled. OK so I tried the experiment. Since what we are testing here is logic not 3rd party stuff I took an old song set delay compensation to "tracks and instruments" (since L6 did not have bus PDC) and I defeated all but the logic plugins and bounced it in L6.4.3 and L7.2.2. On the first attempt I found that a banjo track that was going through a certain space designer patch did not cancel. So I defeated the space designers in the song and did the test again and got absolutely perfect cancellation. Well almost. By stacking 5 gain plugins set to +24db in the output (for a grand total of 116db of gain I was able to hear what appeared to be dither noise. I am not sure were the dither noise is coming from but since -116 db is about 20db beneath the theoretical noise floor of 16 audio I am basically satisfied that the things are canceling each other. My first impulse was to say that the space designer plugin has somehow changed but as I write this I am realizing it is possible that the versions are simply accessing different SDIR files since the problem track is a custom IR that I have edited a couple of times and exists in different places in my system. Since L6 and L7 have slightly different protocals for searching for IRs they may well not be looking at the same one. I will test this theory when I have time but at the moment my 2 year old is on my lap and he tends to insert variables into my work that invalidate this kind of testing.

Hi guys, when i bounce down audio created from softsynths etc it always sound 'flat' compared to how i had it originally. normally i create a synth part or bass part in a soft synth like the legacy or absynth, add some processing then bounce it down, reimport it and move on to creating the next sound. when i do this the imported audio ALWAYS sound less impressive than how i originally heard it. I normally process it with Logics delays, flanger, chorus so perhaps this is why? would it be best to bounce the 'dry' signal then process it? I have an m-audio 18/14 interface, and decent moniters so i can definately notice the difference. Any ideas that might improve the sound? Also, anone know of any good sites/tutorials that teach the basics of constructing different types of electronic dance music. Cheers John

Posted by: "Hans Hafner" hanshafner@gmx.de hans_hafner Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:21 am (PST) > Hi there, > > has anyone set up networked Macs using AUNetSend, AUNetReceive and > network MIDI to use a second Mac as a "sound-module"? > > I can get it to work no problem, but Logic becomes _extremely_ > unstable using it and crashes very very soon (> 5 minutes of working, > well... trying out) > > I was using the built-in audio interfaces on both Macs just to make > sure it's not a third-party driver problem. > > Any thoughts? > > Cheers > Hans > > Sytem: > Logic 7.2.2 > Dual G5 2.0 / 2.5 GB RAM > OS X 10.4.7 > MetricHalo MobileIO 2882 > Unitor8 Unfortunately, you may be investing good time after bad. I haven't been able to get any of the other audio-over-ethernet solutions to work either. The issue that stopped me from going farther with AUNetsend/Receive is latency - it's not workable. This is a holy grail, of course; audio-over-ethernet on Mac is just not a happening thing yet - unless something new has come out that I haven't heard about. Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher Virtual Instruments Magazine - the world of softsynths and samplers www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496) 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101

Full of the usual suspects.....bug fixes, networking improvements etc etc.

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Hans Hafner <hanshafner@...> wrote: > > Hi there, > > has anyone set up networked Macs using AUNetSend, AUNetReceive and > network MIDI to use a second Mac as a "sound-module"? > > I can get it to work no problem, but Logic becomes _extremely_ > unstable using it and crashes very very soon (> 5 minutes of working, > well... trying out) > > I was using the built-in audio interfaces on both Macs just to make > sure it's not a third-party driver problem. > > Any thoughts? Hi Hans, The guys over at the Vienna forums have talked about this in great detail. Start with this topic: http://vsl.co.at/forum/viewtopic.php?t‰43 You could search there for more too.... Hope this helps Colin

Dear Logic Users, I've successfully been able to address the SRX slots A-D on the Roland XV-5080 by using Logic's Bank Select messages. However, I'm really struggling to do the same with slots E-H. Does anyone know how to the resolve this problem. Your kind help would be much appreciated. Many thanks, Whyman Baker (London ~ England) ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com

IK Multimedia's Sonic Capsules ("Universal Sounds for Any Samplers") advertises compatibility with "eMagic exS24." A little behind the times. Anyway, will this sample library work with the EXSP24 in Logic Express (7.2)? Thanks. JEC

Jose J Torres wrote: > I know this is old now Has anyone tried using logic 4.x on xp by > first installing on windows me and then doing an os upgrade to > windows xp? Don't know about that - you could try searching through this list's archives though. Back in the day, Logic for Windows (Gold/Platinum) users were offered a special Logic 4.81 for Windows 2000/XP CD to run the last v4 of Logic on XP. Doubt if you'll find one now. I still do, however, have this CD and can send you the one file that you possibly only really need anyway - the installer executable. Remember: it only works if your dongle was registered for Gold or Platinum. Email me privately if you want it. ___ Ade

A friend who has logic express on an I mac and motu mkII can't make it work for recording. All is corretly installed ( last drivers...) . it doesn't work either on garage band. It doesn't record only on the input 1 and 2 in front. No analog input is recorded. I guess (and I'm quite sure ) there is a special thing to do on the motu, maybe in the cuemix section, a routing problem. If anyone is working with this interface on a mac i'd sure like a helping hand. Thanks to you all.

On Sep 30, 2006, at 12:37 PM, Nick Batzdorf wrote: > > > Unfortunately, you may be investing good time after bad. I haven't > been able to get any of the other audio-over-ethernet solutions to > work either. > > The issue that stopped me from going farther with AUNetsend/Receive > is latency - it's not workable. This is a holy grail, of course; > audio-over-ethernet on Mac is just not a happening thing yet - unless > something new has come out that I haven't heard about. > > > I'm curious to know if these tests have been done over gigabit ethernet? -otto ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------- Otto Gygax - Audio, Computer, Networking Engineering / Percussion otto@GxM.COM / Philomath, Oregon

At 19:39 Uhr -0700 30.09.2006, Otto Gygax wrote: >I'm curious to know if these tests have been done over gigabit ethernet? In my case: yes, Powerbook and G5 were directly connected with no router or switch in between. Cheers Hans

> On Sep 30, 2006, at 12:37 PM, Nick Batzdorf wrote: >> The issue that stopped me from going farther with AUNetsend/Receive >> is latency - it's not workable. This is a holy grail, of course; >> audio-over-ethernet on Mac is just not a happening thing yet - unless >> something new has come out that I haven't heard about. >> > > On 01.10.2006, at 04:39, Otto Gygax wrote: > I'm curious to know if these tests have been done over gigabit > ethernet? Maybe more an issue of the protocol than of the nominal speed. The ethernet protocol has no fixed timeslices or such. If a data block wants to travel over ethernet it sticks its head out, looks to the left and right and if it sees a free space among the other data it quickly jumps out and swims with the stream. Its following brothers and sisters get somehow organized behind the leader. If you try audio over ethernet you will see a certain amount of steady latency which does not change during one travel session. But the latency won't be the same the next time because the time when the first bits can take off differs. I am not really sure but I doubt that faster ethernet will change that situation. Maybe a much faster version but a 10 times faster net will not result in a 10 times better performance. There is still the protocol. Some time ago I played a lot with WormHole (early version) and got latencies between 1,200 and 2500 samples. Haven't tried with the new version yet which is supposed to be faster. But the real problem is that audio stream and ethernet are not synchronized. You can never tell when exactly your data leaves your machine. I guess AUNetSend/ Receive has to cook with the same water. As I tried that system I managed to record via ethernet as I had to switch to a Powerbook G4 but wanted to keep my Delta card in the old G3. That worked, I could use the audio card of another computer (!) but it was no fun. I ran Tracktion on the G3, which recorded and sent the data instantly via WormHole to the Powerbook. But I had always to maintain a parallel click track and align the recorded track manually. Cannot recommend that. Honestly, I am not sure if audio over ethernat has a future. Ethernet was never thought for that kind of stuff. If we had a kind of fast "token ring" network i.e. or a dedicated protocol for audio (I think Yamaha tried that) then yes. But with our usual networks it is currently just an interesting experiment. ___ Peter Ostry

I'll soon be downloading the trial version of Izotope's "Ozone," the suite of mastering plugins. Izotope recommends bouncing a song down to a stereo file prior to using Ozone. I gather that the stereo file should not be right at 0 db so as to allow for volume changes which may be introduced by Ozone. Any suggestions as to how much room I should allow? Oh, and I've read many times that it is wise to allow others to master one's songs. However, this is just a hobby, so no one's losing any $ over this. Thanks. JEC Logic Express 7.2 MacBook 2G