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From: "Gary" <ghanish@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 at 1:55:10 AM
Subject: [LUG] Thanks all for the white noise and Jam Pack help
Message #215901
To all who sent me ideas on how to get White Noise -- Thank You! I actually used Blairs suggestion. I also found out how to drop a green apple loop into a track, go to matrix view, select all and then delet the notes from the loop, leaving only the sampled inst. to be played from controller keyboard. I'm setting up a blank song with inst. allready to use. Thanks for the help to a newbie who has climbed out of the black hole. Gary
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From: Paul Najar <paulnajar@jaminajar.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 at 3:52:37 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Logic Virtual Instruments in Live Setup
Message #215902
This is a reply to #215849.
On 29/06/2006, at 1:16 PM, Doug Slick wrote: > Hi Paul, > > I had a minute to mess with this tonight. I found a pref > "keep common samples in memory when switching songs" on the EXS > Instrument Editor page. That helps if I happen to be going to a song > that uses some of the same samples as the last song. Certainly a > step in the right direction but not the panacea I was hoping for. :-( That was the pref I was thinking of and no it won't help you across different instruments from song to song > The trick you talk about above only works while you are > working in the same song, right? Correct. > I do that with my general > performance song that loads up the samples I routinely use. The > delay occurs when EXS loads up samples after I change songs. I don't > see a way around that problem unless I'm misunderstanding the concept. You're getting it just right. I'm assuming you need to load different songs because you actually have to PLAY songs back. I don't have to run Logic. I merely use it as a rack of synths and live vocoder. As such I only have one song and I never have to hit play so the approach works for me. You have to have EXS virtual memory turned on. Once it is you can have many more instruments loaded whose total ram requirements far exceed that of your physical ram. It seems to work well. > What I'd like to have is the ability to load the samples into > EXS for the night and keep 'em there. Thus avoiding the delay while > the samples for each song load. I guess that's not possible in a > soft sampler. It might be if you had a standalone sampler like Kontakt triggered via rewire??? ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Paul Najar Jaminajar Music Production www.jaminajar.com
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From: slimbuddah <slimbuddah@redbeanznrice.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 at 4:33:04 AM
Subject: Macbook Pro & Firewire
Message #215903
Hi all, Would anyone know what would be the best way to set up an RME Fireface 800 and external HD with the MBP. Namely, would a firewire hub make any difference in terms of performance, compared to a daisy chain. Also, is it a problem to daisy chain with FW400 port and FW800 port on the same chain? Thanks! Patrick
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From: jonathan streak <jstreak@glo-techafrica.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 at 4:56:16 AM
Subject: [LAW] Error codes for logic 5.5.1
Message #215904
Does anybody know where I can get a list of error codes for pc logic 5.5.1. Having Some problems... keep thinking... appreciate
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From: Paul Mellors <paul@paulmellors.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 at 8:05:52 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: Annoyin -1 Transpose Bug
Message #215905
This is a reply to #215828.
On 28 Jun 2006, at 15:39, spaces12000 wrote: > --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "spaces12000" <tom@...> wrote: > > > I've just recently had the same problem ... it seemed to happen > > only when I had more than one song loaded. I had to restart > > Logic. I stumbled upon a fix that has worked so far. I cleaned > > the caches. I used an app called Cocktail. So far so good. > > > > Good luck! > > > > Tom > > > > iMac G5 OS X 10.4.3 > > Logic Pro 7.1.1 > > Never mind ... cleaning caches doesn't work either. AND my audio > instruments change > presets as well... All this happens when I have more than one song > loaded. > > Any help??? > > > Happens here too. Not Sound Diver related for me. It has been happening for some time and I find that quitting and restarting Logic cures it till next time. Annoying bug! Paul
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From: "ececcon1" <ececcon1@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 at 8:13:20 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Phase Canceling 60Hz Hum How to nudge regions
Message #215906
This is a reply to #215878.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "The Doghouse NYC" <doghousenyc2@...> wrote: > > > loop hum. What I'd love to do is copy a small portion of the hum > This is a job for CoolEdit/Adobe Audition isn't it? You take a noise signature from a part with just hum/noise and no musical content and then use the noise reduction over the whole track. Sorry I haven't seen this feature in Logic Audio. goodluck EC
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From: "mt100uk" <miketaylor100@mac.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 at 7:33:23 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Macbook Pro & Firewire
Message #215907
This is a reply to #215903.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, forums@... wrote: > > Message posted by slimbuddah <slimbuddah@...>: > > Hi all, > > Would anyone know what would be the best way to set up an RME Fireface 800 > and external HD with the MBP. Namely, would a firewire hub make any > difference in terms of performance, compared to a daisy chain. Also, is it a > problem to daisy chain with FW400 port and FW800 port on the same chain? > > Thanks! > > Patrick > Hi Patrick, I don't think a firewire hub will improve your performance and may have adverse effects on reliability (It has been known to cause problems in the past). I would recommend running the HD serially after the Fireface (FW on Mac->Fireface->FW HD). You don't mention which MBP you're talking about as the 17" has a FW800 port in addition to the FW400 one (which is all the 15" has). If its the 15" (FW400 only) then it is possible to run the Fireface on a 400 bus. If its the 17" bung the fireface on the 800 socket and the HD on the 400. If all this proves insufficient then its possible to buy more FW ports in the form of a 3/4PCIExpressCard. Hope this helps, Mike
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From: "julesbromley" <jules@trailermen.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 at 7:13:38 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Anyone using a touch pad or tablet?
Message #215908
This is a reply to #215889.
James, Eddie, GPiccolini, Steve, Henry I'm extremely grateful for your feedback. I'm going to try and get an A5 Wide format tablet, which seems better suited to dual monitor work (in terms of axis ratio). I'll probably have to keep using a mouse as well for now, becuase I use it on multiple systems, and my KVM switcher is not USB. Either way, I have to do something. The RSI (assuming thats what it is) in my mouse clicking fingers is so bad today I can barely move them. That's what two 14-hour days of bulding patches and editing loops will do to you!! Thanks again to all. Jules
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From: amgmamgma <agreenbu@nyx.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 at 9:22:54 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: Macbook Pro & Firewire
Message #215909
This is a reply to #215907.
> > Message posted by slimbuddah <slimbuddah@...>: > > Would anyone know what would be the best way to set up an > > RME Fireface 800 and external HD with the MBP. Namely, > > would a firewire hub make any: difference in terms of > > performance, compared to a daisy chain. Also, is it a problem > > to daisy chain with FW400 port and FW800 port on the same > > chain? mt100uk <miketaylor100@mac.com> wrote: > Hi Patrick, > I don't think a firewire hub will improve your performance and > may have adverse effects on reliability OTOH, I've had firewire devices that wouldn't play nice together until I plugged them into a FW hub. So, it may depend on how finicky your external HD is. You might need to experiment before you find out what works the best. Sometimes the order of the devices makes a really big difference. -- agreenbu @ nyx . net andrew michael greenburg
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From: Colin Shapiro <musos@icon.co.za>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 at 1:30:59 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Annoyin -1 Transpose Bug,
Message #215910
This is a reply to #215897.
> > Have you been running SoundDiver (SD) at all? There is a known >> problem which causes this transpose fault after opening SD while >> Logic is running. >> >> I find that if I quit Logic, log out and log in again, the problem >> has gone. > >Can this be avoided simply by opening SoundDiver before Logic? >best, Jeff No guarantees doing it like that. I usually close Logic, open SD, load what I need into my synths and then quit/log out/log in. If I need Logic open to test stuff (eg audition sounds against existing stuff) then I'm forced to risk the dreaded transpose bug for a while, then quit everything and start again. It's a huge pain in the butt - I *WISH* Apple would pick up SoundDiver and update it and fix all the bugs. Clearly they do not think there's enough of a market to make it worth their while. They could show some compassion for their 1000's of Logic users and consider time spent on SD to be good old-fashioned goodwill. As it is, SD is "frozen" with all its problems forever.... Regards - Colin
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From: mr.extrem <mr.extrem@yahoo.de>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 at 1:36:56 PM
Subject: Latency compensation with external equipment
Message #215911
My problem is when i use external effects for audio tracks i want to compensate the latency of the external effect signal with the dry signal and the rest of the playback. If i record my external signal to a audio track (no autput bounce)it is fixed. So the problem is only the playback-latency of my external equipment relating of the dry signals and all the other tracks. For example: I send over a bus object a part of the signal from a audio track to my lexicon effekt. the effect signal that i hear now on the input has a latency. Is there a way to compensate that like logic 7 does it with plug-Ins latency?
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From: "jnyb54" <jnyb@optonline.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 at 10:05:29 AM
Subject: [LUG] Amplitube/Guitar Rig in Logic/Intel?
Message #215912
can anyone confirm that latest versions of Amplitube and/or Guitar Rig will or won't run on intel G5 (without Rosetta)? thanks in advance!
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From: Maurits van de Kamp <maurits@bassment.nu>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 at 10:57:45 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Phase Canceling 60Hz Hum How to nudge regions
Message #215913
This is a reply to #215906.
> This is a job for CoolEdit/Adobe Audition isn't it? You take a noise > signature from a part with just hum/noise and no musical content and > then use the noise reduction over the whole track. Well that's not done with phase cancellation (because as mentioned, that is next to impossible). However what happens is that the frequency aspects of the noise are analyzed and a filter is based on that. > Sorry I haven't > seen this feature in Logic Audio. Try Sound Soap (commercial 3rd-party plugin). It does this and more. Maurits.
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From: alex aliferis <alexwaliferis@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 at 12:27:27 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Anyone using a touch pad or tablet?
Message #215914
I am a long time tablet user and absolutely love it. I have constructed a series of small, self-contained control surfaces which have intergrated Wacom tablets for more comfortable, deskless use. These allow me to work very long, navigation-intensive sessions with zero muscle fatigue/carpal irritation. As for configuration, I find it essential to use "mouse mode" which does not follow absolute mapping. This allows for smaller muscle movements to more quickly traverse equivilent screen distances. The only downside I find to using tablets is that one most put down the pen for most non-navigation activities, such as playing the keyboard or knob/fader manipulation. It is possible to type with the pen in your fingers, but the ergonomic sensibilty of doing this for extended periods is questionable... Cheers, Alex Aliferis
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From: Chris Coccia <descentrecords@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 at 1:40:19 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: Annoyin -1 Transpose Bug,
Message #215915
This is a reply to #215910.
Colin Shapiro wrote: > No guarantees doing it like that. I usually close Logic, open SD, > load what I need into my synths and then quit/log out/log in. If I > need Logic open to test stuff (eg audition sounds against existing > stuff) then I'm forced to risk the dreaded transpose bug for a while, > then quit everything and start again. > > It's a huge pain in the butt - I *WISH* Apple would pick up > SoundDiver and update it and fix all the bugs. Clearly they do not > think there's enough of a market to make it worth their while. They > could show some compassion for their 1000's of Logic users and > consider time spent on SD to be good old-fashioned goodwill. As it > is, SD is "frozen" with all its problems forever.... > > Regards - Colin Nope doesnt matter which order you do it, the transpose 'feature' will still show its ugly head.. I hear ya Colin.. MidiQuest just isnt quite up to par as a complete replacement for Sound Diver.. Unisyn only supports ONE of the synths I have. Im still hoping itll show up one day but it would seem Apple really really wants us all out buying dual cores to run their software synths instead now.. but sorry I like my Micro Q/Microwave/Virus/SH101/etc alot better than I like ES1/2/P/etc... -- Chris http://www.monotrematamusic.com http://www.myspace.com/monotremata http://www.descentrecords.com
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From: Doug Slick <dslick@netreach.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 at 11:14:41 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Logic Virtual Instruments in Live Setup
Message #215916
This is a reply to #215902.
> >You're getting it just right. I'm assuming you need to load different >songs because you actually have to PLAY songs back. Yup. That's just what happens on my gigs. Back and forth... >I don't have to >run Logic. I merely use it as a rack of synths and live vocoder. As >such I only have one song and I never have to hit play so the >approach works for me. Yeah. That's what I do till I need to run another song. Works great, as you say. >You have to have EXS virtual memory turned on. >Once it is you can have many more instruments loaded whose total ram >requirements far exceed that of your physical ram. It seems to work >well. Oooohhhh! I didn't know about this till just now. Seems I already had it checked but it seems to point to another issue I've been encountering. I hit play on a song and it goes a bar or two in and then stops. Get an error message something like "Not read from disk in time" or something like is mentioned on the virtual memory page of the EXS. I'm reluctant to mess with it now 'cause I have a job tomorrow and I have been using a work around that gets me through the gig. I'll check it out after I get past this weekend's work. Perhaps I'll find a solution to that problem. Man, there's a lot to these virtual instruments. Whew... > >> What I'd like to have is the ability to load the samples into >> EXS for the night and keep 'em there. Thus avoiding the delay while >> the samples for each song load. I guess that's not possible in a >> soft sampler. > >It might be if you had a standalone sampler like Kontakt triggered >via rewire??? Hmm. Maybe, but I don't own either and I haven't caught up from buying Logic 7 & my G4 laptop. New purchases are definitely not on the current agenda here. :-) Thanks for your help, Paul. -- Doug
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From: Renger <renger@mac.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 at 1:31:33 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: New MacBook
Message #215917
Hi, Just got the MacBook. I have many plug-ins running, also Kore and the whole Ni bundle, but non shows up in my Plug-in list... they are all in my main library/audio/components folder, I did run the authoriser, but only the Micro-Tonic shows in my list... any clues? Renger
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From: Bransin <bransinanderson@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 at 4:36:30 PM
Subject: [OT] Anyone in Chicago? Need Help?
Message #215918
<Note from admin: please send all replies privately, thanks!> I just moved to Chicago and looking for an audio gig where Logic 7 is involved. I'm Logic 7 Apple Pro Certified, and work with the program more often than Pro Tools. Does anyone know of a studio, or anyone I can talk to that might be looking for help? Is there anyone from Chicago that has done work for clients using Logic? Your answers to my questions are greatly appreciated. Thanks
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From: Blair Fisher <blairfisher@shaw.ca>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 at 4:20:12 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: apple loop sounds different in the arrange compared to
Message #215919
This is a reply to #215891.
> On 27/06/2006, at 5:46 PM, Blair Fisher wrote: >> > Sir: On 6/29/06 3:26 PM, "Andris Sice" <hasice@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > You're embarrassing me Blair, suppose it serves me right > for choosing that nick. > Anyway, thanks for the Sample Editor advice. > Sir DNA Andris: Oh well ­ just a bit of fun.....hope no offence was taken ;) I guess if I had looked at the top I would have found your real name, but Sir DNA was what I saw. I also hope that the Sample Editor advice helped. Blair -- blairfisher@shaw.ca
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From: "pancenter" <hwooten@dakotacom.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 at 2:16:51 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: [LAW] Error codes for logic 5.5.1
Message #215920
This is a reply to #215904.
> Message posted by jonathan streak > >Does anybody know where I can get a list of error codes for pc logic >5.5.1. Having Some problems... Don't think a list of error codes for PC Logic has ever been published. However, I imagine the most common error codes are the same on both platforms so you might try explaining your difficulty. Howard
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From: Stuart Holmes <stumusic@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 at 6:41:11 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Phase Canceling 60Hz Hum How to nudge regions
Message #215921
This is a reply to #215913.
On Jun 30, 2006, at 8:57 AM, Maurits van de Kamp wrote: >> This is a job for CoolEdit/Adobe Audition isn't it? You take a noise >> signature from a part with just hum/noise and no musical content and >> then use the noise reduction over the whole track. > > Well that's not done with phase cancellation (because as mentioned, > that is next to impossible). However what happens is that the > frequency aspects of the noise are analyzed and a filter is based on > that. > >> Sorry I haven't >> seen this feature in Logic Audio. > > Try Sound Soap (commercial 3rd-party plugin). It does this and more. > > Maurits. Sound Soap did the trick! (Maybe takes out a bit too much... maybe not, but the $99.00 is more than worth the time I'd have spent with my original theory or trying to use my own eq. etc! Thanks, Stuart-
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From: Matt McKenzie-Smith <matt@mattrixx.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 at 7:17:30 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Macbook Pro & Firewire
Message #215922
> Hi all, > > Would anyone know what would be the best way to set up an RME > Fireface 800 > and external HD with the MBP. Namely, would a firewire hub make any > difference in terms of performance, compared to a daisy chain. > Also, is it a > problem to daisy chain with FW400 port and FW800 port on the same > chain? > > Thanks! > > Patrick Though I have done this myself, I think that if you were to daisy chain the drive to the interface, or vice versa, it should be fine. This may depend on how much of the FF800's I/O you are actually utilizing. Have you tried it? I would be interested in the results. Best Regards, Matt _ _ _ _ _ ___ __ _ _ _______________ MATT MCKENZIE-SMITH MUSIC • AUDIO DESIGN • PRODUCTION PO Box 10395, Adelaide 5000, South Australia. Ph.+61 416 197 883 iCHATav. mattrixx@mac.com http://www.mattrixx.net _ _ ___ _ ____ _ _ ________________
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From: "Post, Boyd" <boyd@surreal.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 at 8:24:29 PM
Subject: RE: [LUG] Editing Sys-Ex messages for MKS-80
Message #215923
>Hey, >I've had an MKS-80 and its programmer for a while now. I used to use >it a great deal before a studio move a few years ago. I only recently >got it set up again and want to pull it into use with logic. I am >sending it midi messages to the programmer, and midi out of the MKS is >running back to logic. I use a pocket filter on the output to filter >everything except Sysex so it doesn't loop. This way I can record a >part, and then go back and overdub control info with the programmer. >The data recorded is Sysex and I can see the events in the list >editor, but I could've sworn there was a way to edit this data in a >hyperedit type window. >Is anyone doing this currently? How are you pulling it off? >Thanks for any info, >Boyd Bump! I can record system exclusive data, I just cant find any mention in the manual about editing it. Do I need to use an environment for the MKS? Anyone? b o y d p o s t </> s o u n d d e s i g n </> c o m p o s i t i o n </> s u r r e a l s o f t w a r e
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From: Andris Sice <hasice@bigpond.net.au>
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 at 7:56:51 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: apple loop sounds different in the arrange compared to the loop
Message #215924
This is a reply to #215919.
On 01/07/2006, at 7:20 AM, Blair Fisher wrote: > Oh well – just a bit of fun.....hope no offence was taken ;) Not at all Blair. Actually now I've changed my email too in the hope that people get to know me by my artist's nick. Like I said, it's all my own fault and I accept *full* responsibility... Sir DNA
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From: Jorma Pennanen <jorma.pennanen@welho.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 at 12:50:56 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Phase Canceling 60Hz Hum How to nudge regions
Message #215925
This is a reply to #215921.
On 1.7.2006, at 2.41, Stuart Holmes wrote: > > Sound Soap did the trick! (Maybe takes out a bit too much... maybe > not, but the $99.00 is more than worth the time I'd have spent with > my original theory or trying to use my own eq. etc! Well as you can listen just the output of the filter in Sound Soap so you can fine tune it so that it only takes out noise and nothing else. Cheers Check out the web page for my band updated 28.6.2005 http://jormapen.fidisk.fi New studio pics, blog and podcasting at http://web.mac.com/jorma.pennanen/iWeb/Glasshouse/Glasshouse_Studio.html
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