I just purchased Amplitube 2.0 uprgrade. I am upgrading from 1.2. I am running Logic 7.2.2 on a G5 2.0 MHZ, 4GB of RAM, OSX 10.4.6. Before I install it I wanted to know if anyone in this forum has had any issues. Amplitube 1.2 has worked very well for me thus far with very few inconveniences. Thank you, Michael Lord www,michaellord.com

On 01.06.2006, at 05:28, forums@logic-users.org wrote: > The keyboard works initially, but after playing a few > notes Logic stops getting MIDI in signals. It can be fixed by > resetting > MIDI drivers in the MIDI preferences, but obviously this is a bit > of a drag > to have to do every 5 minutes. Do you have MidiMonitor? If not, download it and let it run while you play. Filter the clock and/or active sense of the MOTU to see only relevant data. MidiMonitor should show you if some weird things come from the keyboard. Your problem sounds a bit like a MIDI loop. ___ Peter Ostry ----------------------------------------------------------------- LUG Group Buy for Serato's Pitch n' Time LE until June 14th! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/serato for full details

From: "Noble Gowing" dangcookie@comcast.net >> I realize that I probably missed out on a good group buy last >> year, at which point there was a > great deal of discussion regarding this, but please bear with me. > I'm looking for > recommendations on an excellent sampled piano for the EXS24. One > that will sit well in a > mix (British-influenced pop, in my case) as well as solo. Is it > possible to find something > under $250 or so? Thanks! The best pianos around right now aren't in EXS format, I think mostly because it's not locked down. One of the least expensive really good pianos is Art Vista's Virtual Grand (www.Artvista.net), which meets the above criteria, costs $100 or so, and comes in a Kontakt player. They also have a really cool piano, the Malmsjö Acoustic Grand, which you can import into EXS (it's in Giga and Kontakt format). But the Virtual Grand is more likely to sit well in a mix. You should also check out the Sampletekk pianos, and Synthogy Ivory - although it's a little more. I'd also steer you to the Post pianos, but they're not for pop. Nick Batzdorf, editor/publisher Virtual Instruments Magazine - the world of softsynths and samplers www.Virtualinstrumentsmag.com 1-877 VImagzn (846-2496) 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101 ----------------------------------------------------------------- LUG Group Buy for Serato's Pitch n' Time LE until June 14th! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/serato for full details

>> A friend sent me an audio file. It is an acoustic Mp3 of him >> playing guitar and singing. I would like to add some instrumentation on top of it >> but of course.. his real time playing is no where close to being quantized. > > > in situations like this Ableton LIVE is the perfect tool for me. You > set the "warp markers" to the transients and simply pull them to the > correct beat after setting the tempo of the whole song to the closest > value your friend recorded at. > > in the end you caan render the audio to disk or keep Live running > Rewired to Logic (which means that you will be able to adjust the > tempo as needed. > > Live really sounds perfect for songwriting like this. If you want (or > can) use it for a production depends on your taste -- for my music > (which is very electronic) live's artefacts are sometimes very > welcome...kai Kai nailed it here. Logic is nearly useless for the type of correction you want to do. Ableton Live is the perfect tool for what you need. Once you have imported the track into Live, you can set the "warp markers" which are simply markers that tell Live where the beats are. Live then shifts the timing on the fly. It is a great tool for correcting timing that is erratic. I am not a fan of Live for composing. Just my personal taste. It seems to be directed more towards loop-based stuff. But, Live is worth getting just for its ability to correct erratic timing on tracks. -Graflin ----------------------------------------------------------------- LUG Group Buy for Serato's Pitch n' Time LE until June 14th! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/serato for full details

I get this problem when trying to set the global recording path. I did an archive and install because of some weird behaviour,,.. and everything is fine until I try to arm a track for recording.....spinning beach ball and crash. I can open prefernces,.. but when I try to set a recording path it crashes that way also. I have deleted prefs files and still no go... I think I read somewhere of a pref file in the system folder...I'm going to try and find the post and delete it if it exists. Otherwise, I guess I'll start reinstalling Logic. BTW ..I am running 10.4.6 Logic 7.2.1 Good luck DAve

At 1:23 AM +0000 6/1/06, Aviad wrote: >Hi. > >I'm trying to decide between the MacBook and MacBook Pro. My biggest >issue is with the >FireWire bus. I'll be using a Metric Halo 2882 +dsp on the FireWire >bus so my only options for >external drive on the MacBook would be if it's daisy-chained to the >sound card or connected >through USB 2.0. I understand that the USB 2.0 is not implemented >well enough on Macs (it is >slower than FW400 on my PowerBook) and I'm wondering whether the >FireWire bus won't be >"too busy" with the Metric Halo box connected to it directly, to >perform well in situations >where the external hard drive is working "hard". Can anybody shed >more light on this? > >Also, how important are the graphics card and video memory, in which >the MB Pro is >superiour, to someone who will only use his machine for Logic Pro >and other audio-only >applications? > >::: ::: ::: >Thanks, >Aviad I don't know if there are available cards yet, but at least the Pro has a cardslot which can presumably be used for another FW bus (just as I do with my G4 PB). I would imagine that with a lower track count it would be fine to run the drive and the 2882 on the same bus. When it comes time, I intend to go for the Pro. HTH Edwin -- Edwin Hurwitz Boulder CO http://www.indra.com/~edwin http://www.cafemontalban.com Location Recording Services ----------------------------------------------------------------- LUG Group Buy for Serato's Pitch n' Time LE until June 14th! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/serato for full details

>I have recently purchased an Onyx 1640 desk with the firewire card. >I can play music out of it (say iTunes...), and I can play old logic >files OUT of it. > >But - I can't get the audio input to work... >Say I plug a keyboard or a mic into channel 1 on the desk, I can't get channel >1 in logic to show any audio coming in... >However, if I tell it I am inputting from channel 17 (the left of the main >mix)(while still plugging into channel 1) it hears that... Your version of OSX is not sufficiently recent to have that part work right. Been there and done that; the inputs were reversed. I think you need something like 10.3.5 or later, but you can find out for sure at Mackie's site. Update and you'll be fine. -- ha ----------------------------------------------------------------- LUG Group Buy for Serato's Pitch n' Time LE until June 14th! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/serato for full details

Paul Najar: My idea of pulling a great guitar sound is to hire a wonderful player with wonderful amp & pedals and 3-5 $5000 guitars and stick a mic in from of it. I find it hard to get good sounds with cheap guitars, I usually use ones that cost 6-10.000$ but then again, I'm not that wonderful a player. ----------------------------------------------------------------- LUG Group Buy for Serato's Pitch n' Time LE until June 14th! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/serato for full details

At 8:17 PM -0400 5/30/06, MelodyArtist@aol.com wrote: >What do people like for distortion plugs? Logic's distortion plugs never >suited me. I guess there is Trash, Tube (a bit subtle but sounds good - but VST >only, and Antares does not have a good porting record), ValveTone by Tritone, >Predatohm (only mono and good but seems lack subtlety). Maybe Blue Tubes? I use Predathom a lot, for a sort of articulate fuzz. I like PSP Vintage Warmer for barely dirty sounds. I like Trash for a variety of things. I only use Guitar Amp Pro for brittle, stabbing, sounds. -C -- Chris Muir | "There are many futures and only one status quo. cbm@well.com | This is why conservatives mostly agree, http://www.xfade.com | and radicals always argue." - Brian Eno ----------------------------------------------------------------- LUG Group Buy for Serato's Pitch n' Time LE until June 14th! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/serato for full details

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "HKC" <hkc@...> wrote: > > Paul Najar: My idea of pulling a great guitar sound is to hire a >wonderful player with wonderful amp & pedals and 3-5 $5000 guitars >and stick a mic in from of it. > >I find it hard to get good sounds with cheap guitars, I usually use >ones that cost 6-10.000$ but then again, I'm not that wonderful a >player. The wonderful players make $180 Fender Squires sound good. Some of the best sounding most memorable guitar work has been done on less than stellar equipment. One remembers the gear least of all. HW ----------------------------------------------------------------- LUG Group Buy for Serato's Pitch n' Time LE until June 14th! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/serato for full details

> Paul Najar: My idea of pulling a great guitar sound is to hire a >wonderful player with wonderful amp & pedals and 3-5 $5000 guitars >and stick a mic in from of it. > >I find it hard to get good sounds with cheap guitars, I usually use >ones that cost 6-10.000$ but then again, I'm not that wonderful a >player. The wonderful players make $180 Fender Squires sound good. That was my point, I was just kidding. If the guitar can just stay decently in tune anything goes if the player is any good. He usually comes up with a part that works on that particular guitar and in my point of view there is no simple answers to guitar sound. A virtual amp with a Squire can be just what the doctor ordered in some scenarios. I read that Neil Finn (Crowded House) only used guitars picked up cheaply in pawn shops during the Woodface sessions because he was tired of all the conventional sounds and that turned out pretty well. I have many great (and expensive guitars) but I often use a cheap Danelectro for certain jangly rhythm sounds because it just does a very good job (and I do have a Ric 330). For those very clean jangly sounds I often use the Guitar Amp Pro because I like the sound of it and the ability to change the sound if I need a little more or less ie gain. I have a 1961 Vox AC30 and and 1966 Super Reverb which of course are great amps but in some cases the virtual amp is just as good (or, dare I say it, better). ----------------------------------------------------------------- LUG Group Buy for Serato's Pitch n' Time LE until June 14th! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/serato for full details

Hi I'm trying to convert some Apple loops in a track to normal audio files, so that I can edit them, change region attributes etc. I seem to remember Orren advised that this could be done using Arrange->Audio->Convert Region to New Audio File. However, when I do this, Logic seems to lose the tempo informaiton in the Loop, so that what you end up with is the file at it's original tempo, rather than the song tempo. Perhaps this functionality has been changed/hampered in a recent Logic update. Obviously the way it now works is is not helpful. Does anyone know if there is a quick and easy way to process/bounce (ideally multiple) Apple Loops, so that you're left with audio files at the correct tempo? Many thanks for any help Jules ----------------------------------------------------------------- LUG Group Buy for Serato's Pitch n' Time LE until June 14th! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/serato for full details

On 1 Jun 2006, at 02:23, Aviad wrote: > Hi. > > I'm trying to decide between the MacBook and MacBook Pro. My > biggest issue is with the > FireWire bus. I'll be using a Metric Halo 2882 +dsp on the FireWire > bus so my only options for > external drive on the MacBook would be if it's daisy-chained to the > sound card or connected > through USB 2.0. I understand that the USB 2.0 is not implemented > well enough on Macs (it is > slower than FW400 on my PowerBook) and I'm wondering whether the > FireWire bus won't be > "too busy" with the Metric Halo box connected to it directly, to > perform well in situations > where the external hard drive is working "hard". Can anybody shed > more light on this? > > Also, how important are the graphics card and video memory, in > which the MB Pro is > superiour, to someone who will only use his machine for Logic Pro > and other audio-only > applications? > > ::: ::: ::: > Thanks, > Aviad Hi Aviad, This has recently been discussed on the MH forum (mobileio@music.vt.edu) BJ (one of the geezers from MH, full post at end) says that the USB2 bus on the MacBooks works quite well in connection with MH Hardware. If you need high disk usage then its probably advisable to get the MB pro, due to its ExpressCard 3/4 slot. With the advent of SATA and the ExpressCard slot it would seem prudent to look at an SATA setup as these are significantly faster (have much higher throughput) than FW systems. Essentially for FW you have a PATA Drive (parallel ATA) connected to a PATA->FW 'converter' which then connects to a FW bus on the mac, which in turn connects to the PCI architecture. With SATA, the connector on the back of the external box is the connector on the back of the drive itself, which will connect to an SATA ExpressCard directly which sits on the PCI bus. Which means the throughput is limited only by the drive itself (faster drive, faster throughput) and not by the speed of the FW bus (which is what limits all but the slowest external FW drives). The only thing that still aces SATA is SCSI, but with the cost of SCSI drives and the increasing speed of SATA (10,000 rpm drives are readily available) its scarcely worth it anymore. Hope this helps, Mike PS admin, sorry for the long quote, but I think its pertinent Post from MH forum; > Hi, > > So, as I said, our understanding of this question has evolved over > time. > > Basically, it is not a problem to use a Firewire drive on the same > bus with > one or two MIOs (or even three), but there are caveats. > > One is that it is very important that any other devices on the > firewire bus > do not cause random bus resets. Generally, this is not an issue, > but there > are some drives that have caused problems in the past. Also bad > cables can > cause problems. > > The second is that some apps are more sensitive to variations in > timing than > others (Logic is particularly sensitive to this). It turns out that > earlier > versions of MIO Console would interact with disk accesses in a way > that > Metering activity would distort the timing periodically and this > would cause > problems for Logic. We have since identified this issue and > resolved it. > > If the bus is heavily loaded with hard-disk activity, this could cause > timing distortions that will make Logic unhappy. However, this will > not > happen with other apps (including the record panel). It also will > not happen > with normal levels of disk activity (like playing 24 tracks or > something > like that). > > Now, that all being said, in a perfect world your best bet is to > have the > disk on a separate bus from the MIO(s). Practically this means: > > 1) Have a slot and use a Firewire card or SATA card to add an > additional bus > for either the MIOs or the Hard Drive > > 2) If you don't have a slot, use the internal drive for audio. > This is OK, > but often you find that System and VM accesses to the drive can > interfere > with audio access to the drive. > > 3) Utilize a different bus for the drive. For desktop machines this > means a > second internal drive with SATA. For laptops or iMacs, it means use > a USB-2 > drive on the USB bus. This is actually a very good solution and > applies to > the MB and MBP. > > 4) If you are going to utilize a FireWire drive on the same bus as the > MIO(s) and the computer supports FW800, it is definitely better to > use a > FW800 drive on the FW800 port -- even though it is the same bus. > > To put the foregoing into context, we routinely record 24 channels > @ 96k to > a FW800 drive on one FW bus on the Al17". > > I don't foresee any problems with the MB, and if you do run into any > difficulties, they should be easily circumvented with the use of a > USB-2 > drive for audio. > > Best regards, > > B.J. Buchalter ----------------------------------------------------------------- LUG Group Buy for Serato's Pitch n' Time LE until June 14th! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/serato for full details

On 1 jun 2006, at 15.19, julesbromley wrote: > I'm trying to convert some Apple loops in a track to normal audio > files, so that I can edit them, change region attributes etc. > > I seem to remember Orren advised that this could be done using > Arrange->Audio->Convert Region to New Audio File. > > However, when I do this, Logic seems to lose the tempo informaiton in > the Loop, so that what you end up with is the file at it's original > tempo, rather than the song tempo. Yes, that's true. > Perhaps this functionality has > been changed/hampered in a recent Logic update. Hard to form any opinion on because you are not telling the list which version you are talking about. > Obviously the way it > now works is is not helpful. I agree, it could be better implemented. > Does anyone know if there is a quick and easy way to process/bounce > (ideally multiple) Apple Loops, so that you're left with audio files > at the correct tempo? Yes. Direct them to dedicated outputs, make sure those outputs are selected in Logic's surround preferences, mute unwanted tracks and bounce as surround - voila! There you have all files in one button press. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) ----------------------------------------------------------------- LUG Group Buy for Serato's Pitch n' Time LE until June 14th! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/serato for full details

>I >personally would not use ChannelStrip as a substitute for Logic's >built-in plugs. I would, and I do. It's all about what one likes. -- ha ----------------------------------------------------------------- LUG Group Buy for Serato's Pitch n' Time LE until June 14th! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/serato for full details

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Per Boysen <per@...> wrote: > > However, when I do this, Logic seems to lose the tempo informaiton in > > the Loop, so that what you end up with is the file at it's original > > tempo, rather than the song tempo. > > Yes, that's true. Do you know if this is intended behaviour, or is it not working correctly? I don't see any mention in the manual of limitations to this feature, so I assumed it was supposed to be an in-place bounce. > > Perhaps this functionality has > > been changed/hampered in a recent Logic update. > > Hard to form any opinion on because you are not telling the list > which version you are talking about. Sorry, I'm using 7.2.1, OS 10.4.6. > Yes. Direct them to dedicated outputs, make sure those outputs are > selected in Logic's surround preferences, mute unwanted tracks and > bounce as surround - voila! There you have all files in one button > press. Thanks for the suggestion Per. I realize I could just do a bounce (which is what I did), but when you have multiple files on different tracks routed to different outputs at different stages in the track, this is actually quite a time-consuming workaround. Bounce- converting them in place, was what I was hoping to achieve. I appreciate your help though. Jules ----------------------------------------------------------------- LUG Group Buy for Serato's Pitch n' Time LE until June 14th! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/serato for full details

In the Hardware and Driver dialog there's an option called "ReWire Behavior". Try setting this option to "Live mode". Should work like a charm...

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Per Boysen <per@...> wrote: > > However, when I do this, Logic seems to lose the tempo informaiton in > > the Loop, so that what you end up with is the file at it's original > > tempo, rather than the song tempo. > > Yes, that's true. Do you know if this is intended behaviour, or is it not working correctly? I don't see any mention in the manual of limitations to this feature, so I assumed it was supposed to be an in-place bounce. > > Perhaps this functionality has > > been changed/hampered in a recent Logic update. > > Hard to form any opinion on because you are not telling the list > which version you are talking about. Sorry, I'm using 7.2.1, OS 10.4.6. > Yes. Direct them to dedicated outputs, make sure those outputs are > selected in Logic's surround preferences, mute unwanted tracks and > bounce as surround - voila! There you have all files in one button > press. Thanks for the suggestion Per. I realize I could just do a bounce (which is what I did), but when you have multiple files on different tracks routed to different outputs at different stages in the track, this is actually quite a time-consuming workaround. Bounce- converting them in place, was what I was hoping to achieve. I appreciate your help though. Jules ----------------------------------------------------------------- LUG Group Buy for Serato's Pitch n' Time LE until June 14th! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/serato for full details

I recently purchased one of these keyboards and before I start building a Logic environment wanted to see if anyone has already done the work and wants to share? Thanks Richard Bob ----------------------------------------------------------------- LUG Group Buy for Serato's Pitch n' Time LE until June 14th! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/serato for full details

Hi!! i have some questions that i find really hard to get any good answers to :( people tell me different things all the time.... I thought that i maybe once and for all could put all this aside :) please please comment if you have any answers!! 1. Should i lower the track faders or the master fader when the master is clipping? Ive heard both on this actually so now im a bit confused :) ...or should the master always be at 0db no matter what? does it really matter if the master fader is at -5db when the mixing is done? ( the input of the master channel is of course clipping now)... One guy told me that this would infect all of the inserts on the master as well as the limiter.....one other told me that it dont! 2. Lets say that i have the master fader at -5db and then add a limiter to the track with a ceiling of 0db, then the master would be at -5db at the end, and if i then increase the master fader to 0db then i have the same volume as if i had the master at 0db all the time......is this the wrong way to do? 3. and which of these methods are best when i should dither a song? does it matter? one guy told me that the master should always be at 0db when i should dither...(at least if i used a 3rd party dither) 4. How high should the input be on the master track before i add the limiter? could it be way below 0db? 5. How important is it to achive the most gain possible from my softsynths? there are different opinions here also im afraid :( some people say that it doesnt matter at all and others tell me to get as much as i can until the track VU almost clip..... 6. Should the master track NEVER clip no matter what? can this damage my card? Thanks Fredrik

Dear Group, Though I haven't heard from anyone regarding my previous question, I solved the problem. Thanks, Les ----------------------------------------------------------------- LUG Group Buy for Serato's Pitch n' Time LE until June 14th! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/serato for full details

On May 31, 2006, at 2:53 PM, Huud@aol.com wrote: > The ES2 > takes on like a mirror all of the garage band instrument > settings! Now I can > go in and fine tune that sound I am after! Fun stuff. This way > your not > overwhelmed with all the settings that the ES2 would have to get > your basic > sound BUT once the es2 IS called up you have IT'S power at YOUR > command! Great tip!!! I like using the GB synths to get quick sounds- nice to know I can get deeper with them. Speaking of softsynth programming I just invested in the first piece of new hardware I've bought for my studio in over a year! It's the Novation Remote SL-61. It's got an 'Automap' feature that basically automatically maps it's controls to current parameters in a Logic session. Works very well, although it takes a few minutes to set up. The actual controller feels very good, although I notice I have to use a bit more finger pressure for aftertouch than I'm used to. Otherwise, it's a great controller. All of the pads and buttons and faders are very solid. I'd been looking at other controllers of this type from other manufacturer's and this one is a tad pricier, but I feel like it's a very solid controller- extremely well built. It also comes with an AU version of the BassStation! Pretty nice softsynth : ) http://www.novationmusic.com/enlargepicture.asp?id56 If you are looking for something that immediately makes you more productive in Logic, I recommend this. Eddie Sullivan IMS Pro A/V The Stony Brook Technology Center 21 Technology Drive E . Setauket NY 11733 1800 344 6434 X 108 esullivan@imsproav.com AIM: esimsproav M-F 9-6 ----------------------------------------------------------------- LUG Group Buy for Serato's Pitch n' Time LE until June 14th! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/serato for full details

I set my locators to specfic bars in arrange. When I go to an edit page from the arrange page, on returning to the arrange page, the locators default to the full length of the song. Any ideas as to what is going on here? Thanks ----------------------------------------------------------------- LUG Group Buy for Serato's Pitch n' Time LE until June 14th! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/serato for full details

1. > > Should i lower the track faders or the master fader when the master is > clipping? Ive heard both on this actually so now im a bit confused :) > ...or should the master always be at 0db no matter what? > > does it really matter if the master fader is at -5db when the mixing is > done? ( the input of the master channel is of course clipping now)... > > One guy told me that this would infect all of the inserts on the master as > well as the limiter.....one other told me that it dont! [::] Keep the master fader at 0db, unity, and adjust your individual track faders. No individual track or master out should clip. > 2. > Lets say that i have the master fader at -5db and then add a limiter to > the > track with a ceiling of 0db, then the master would be at -5db at the end, > and if i then increase the master fader > to 0db then i have the same volume as if i had the master at 0db all the > time......is this the wrong way to do? [::] By the same rule above, you should never clip on the master out either if mixing digitally. Clipping here is 0dBfs so you simply have filled all the bits. If you are using a limiter to keep from clipping you are on the wrong track. > 3. > and which of these methods are best when i should dither a song? does it > matter? one guy told me that the master should always be at 0db when i > should dither...(at least if i used a 3rd party dither) [::] Someone else should comment on this one to be exact, but once again usually dithering is done at the mastering stage and at this point you may have ultimately reached 0dBfs, but either way don't dither until the end of what you are trying to do. If you are going to send the tracks off to master also don't dither. They will do it for you. If you are going to dither do it as the last step in the mastering stage. > 4. > How high should the input be on the master track before i add the limiter? > could it be way below 0db? [::] A limiter shouldn't have to be used on the master out but it can be as a last approach to ensure you don't go over 0dB. A better approach would be to not put a limiter the first time you bounce and if you ever see that you have hit a spot where you are at 0dB go back and fix it in the mix. This is a technique that can totally squash your mix and kill the dynamic range, which you have probably already done if you are limiting individual tracks before they hit the master outs. > 5. > How important is it to achive the most gain possible from my softsynths? > there are different opinions here also im afraid :( > > some people say that it doesnt matter at all and others tell me to get as > much as i can until the track VU almost clip..... [::] Set one of the instruments in your song as the one that you will correlate all others too, say maybe the kick drum. Then simply mix everything around it so that they are all balanced and things sit correctly. > 6. > Should the master track NEVER clip no matter what? can this damage my > card? [::] It won't damage your card. This is telling you that you have used all available bits for amplitude and you can use no more to describe the sound. pfokus ----------------------------------------------------------------- LUG Group Buy for Serato's Pitch n' Time LE until June 14th! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/serato for full details

On 01.06.2006, at 20:23, Paul Stephenson wrote: >> 1. >> Should i lower the track faders or the master fader when the >> master is >> clipping? > > [::] Keep the master fader at 0db, unity, and adjust your individual > track faders. No individual track or master out should clip. If an output goes over 0 dB you have too lower the level somewhere. Individual tracks are allowed to go over 0 dB. The 32 Bit floating point processing of Logic has a huge headroom. I guess you will never be able to reach the upper limit. Although you could internally go much higher than 0 dB, you would render the level meters useless. I agree, it is a good mixing style to keep everything below 0 dB. 0 dB is the absolute limit on all outputs, including I/O plugins which go to external hardware. ___ Peter Ostry ----------------------------------------------------------------- LUG Group Buy for Serato's Pitch n' Time LE until June 14th! See http://logic-users.org/groupbuy/serato for full details