--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, forums@... wrote: > > Message posted by Eric Jacobsen <hieric@...> > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Wondering if anybody has had a similar problem with lyric input lately. I do > the usual process, but on the second word, when I press the tab button, the > second word disappears and no other input is possible. I recently updated to > 7.2, but if I go back to older versions on a different start up disc, > similar things happen. I never had problems before 7.2 and that includes > pretty recent projects. > > -Eric Jacobsen > > G4 dual 1gig > MOTU 828 > Unitor 8 mkII It's been discussed elsewhere - I think 7.2 broke that feature. If you use the Tab key to advance the cursor for chord symbols a similar unfortunate fate awaits. Doug

On 30/04/2006, at 7:55 AM, George Leger III wrote: > > On Apr 29, 2006, at 1:59 PM, jonathankek2000 wrote: > >> I've been waiting for 3 years for my UAD-1 card to be fully >> compatible >> with OS X and it's still not delivering the way it's supposed to, >> hence the 70% limit on the UAD-1 card for CPU usage. My friends doing >> audio on the PC are making similar complaints about the UAD-1 CPU >> efficiency. > > > Anyone who has been following the UAD-1 Mac thing has a pretty good > idea that Apples use of the AMD8131 chip is the cause of the Mac > issues. > > And to stand up for UA, I have 2 UAD-1's and have found that UA > continually add new plug-ins to the package (paid as they may be), > and have allowed me to finally have the sound of a Roland Dimension D > to mix with, one of my all time favorite processing units. I'm with you George. I run 2 UAD's in a non AMD 8131 Dual 2ghz G5 and regularly run them over 90% with complete stability and no computer slow down. Because I owned 2 UAD's and also a PCI audio card that I was happy with I opted to get this G5 last November to ride out the Intel transition for the next 2-3 years. So far so good. I'm also now starting to get very good node performance from a dual 1GHZ G4 with a $30 Gigabit ethernet card... Regards ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Paul Najar Jaminajar Music Production www.jaminajar.com

> It's been discussed elsewhere - I think 7.2 broke that feature. If you use the Tab key to > advance the cursor for chord symbols a similar unfortunate fate awaits. Wondering if anybody has had a similar problem with lyric input lately. I do > the usual process, but on the second word, when I press the tab button, the > second word disappears and no other input is possible. I recently updated to > 7.2, but if I go back to older versions on a different start up disc, > similar things happen. I never had problems before 7.2 and that includes > pretty recent projects. > > -Eric Jacobsen > > G4 dual 1gig > MOTU 828 > Unitor 8 mkII Hi Doug and Rich, Thanks for your replys. I didn't know this lyric input trouble had been talked about elsewhere. It's nice to know I'm not alone, as misery loves company. >I'm using 6.4, and it's the 'right arrow key' that needs to be >pressed for adding more lyrics, or chords. I had always used the tab key successfully but I went ahead and tried the right arrow and it (mis)behaves in the same way. Guess the only thing to do is transfer the score parts to my as of yet unupdated laptop til a fix comes. Wow. I would think this bug bugs alot of people. -Eric

> >> Also, Intel seems to be the future for Mac CPU processors, > > Not just seems to be, of course, it's official. > Whether the future is Intel or G6, it doesn't really matter. The G5 powermacs will not get outdated any faster or slower whether their followup is a faster G5, a G6 or an Intel. Apple didn't go through the trouble of creating a universal programming environment just to support PPCs for only a year more. So that shouldn't influence your decision. The most powerful mac at this time is a G5, and it will sooner or later be replaced by an even more powerful one, as it always will. It will run the latest software until that software requires new, currently nonexisting, hardware specifications, as it always will. Maurits.

Hi Paul I've just bought a Dual 1.8 G5 (I have UAD and Powercore PCI) and am about to try running my Dual867 G4 as a node. Any issues outside of the manual I should know about? Do you use the ethernet card to free up your ethernet connection on the G5? Cheers Clive Young

Tiger Koehn <tigerk@nyc.rr.com> > Since I switched to "Tiger" from "Panther"...... >....my whole program crashes. Logic 7.1 is the first one officially compatible with Tiger. Even Logic 7.0 experiences problems, and certainly Logic 6 does too. When you upgrade, you need to make sure that all elements are "in sync", and thus compatible with the upgrade. In other words, you should list everything you use and find out if it's compatible or whether you need to upgrade them also. In some cases, folks have upgraded one element of their rig and then found out that another element isn't compatible and there is NO upgrade for it yet. This is often the case with major upgrades early in the game. For example, upgrading a Mac to Intel will definitely mean that most audio stuff isn't compatible and there is no upgrade yet available as of early May 2006. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>

Are you using an interface to get audio into your computer? If so, you should also use it to get audio out. The DA converters in the laptop are far from the best. Also, don't be surprised if going with the cheapest solution is at least partially to blame. Just as good mics are extremely important to a good sounding recording, Monitors are as well. Also be aware that in some cases near-field studio monitors a designed to be extremely accurate at close range and can have a very small sweet spot when positioned correctly. Listening outside that sweet spot can sound pretty dismal. Were you listening to commercial releases in iTunes or listening to your own projects? Another possibility you must consider is that the monitors are telling exactly what you need to know... the mix has problems. A basic rule of thumb says to put as much money as you can afford into any step where you are converting from one type of energy to another, i.e. Good mics are critical to convert acoustic energy into electrical energy, good AD converters convert analog into digital, good DA converters turn digital into electronic energy, and good speakers turn electrical energy into acoustic energy. Everything else in the chain certainly has its role, but can't make up for deficiencies in any of these critical processes. (In other words great preamps cannot turn a radio shack mic into an AKG 414, but an AKG 414 might make a radio shack preamp sound amazing!) Stuart Holmes

just upgraded to 7.2 Pro(and Intel iMac) - yes, my older scores are displayed incorectly, and it's impossible to insert lyrics with tab key -same problem with Express7 also- don't works (on Powerbook of my friend) -seems, that only way- not to upgrade or keep one older Mac with Logic6 for scores (I prefer Logic instead of Finale or Sibelius, so I'll keep my Powerbook unupgraded ;-) juris

Since I'm a Certified Trainer and offering courses in NYC, and I've also been teaching Music and Technology at a very production-oriented College BFA program for 12 years, I'll throw in my 2¢ to this thread. I personally HATE grading, and testing too, and always have! The Apple Logic Cert tests are good for measuring how much you've studied the book, but have little bearing on how you'll perform professionally. I am in the teaching and training biz because I love teaching and facilitating creativity (just like being a producer), not because I want my students to get a grade or certificate! In fact, most of our students in NYC take the courses and never take the certification exams at all. Even with all that, I have realized that at least in my college courses there is a great motivational and organizational element to testing that can help students consolidate and review their knowledge. I agree with David Nahmani's point that having the certification indicates a seriousness of purpose, and a commitment to professionalism. If you are trying to prove to someone that you are serious, committed, organized, etc., it can only help. If you happen to want to get involved in training others at a professional level, it is a necessity. But teaching also requires years of experiences using the gear and the software in the pursuit of creative music- making -- an intimate familiarity with the creative process your students are striving to perfect. Training/teaching also seems to require a certain set of personality traits: patience, empathy, a passion for the material, etc. Finally this: if you want the experience of learning with a particular teacher, you can take the course. If you want the certification and feel you don't need the teacher, you can simply buy the book for $50, study carefully and take the exam for another $150. Hope all this helps! _______________________________ Jonathan Perl Apple Certified Trainer - Logic Pro Mac Audio Trainers www.macaudiotrainers.com Sonic Arts Center at CCNY sonic.arts.ccny.cuny.edu Get the ultimate Logic Training DVD: Inside Logic Pro 7.1, at, www.digitalmediatraining.com/products/logicpro7/ ________________________________

Dear all. I am looking for samples of accordions and a bandoneon for use wioth EXS24. Other related instruments are welcome as well. Does anybody know of a good resource, of maybe wants to share his samples? Thanks and best regards, Erik van Doorne

Apr 30th, 1:17pm a client sent me audio files as a disk image file but for some reason it won't open on my iBook G4 , 1GB ram running OSX 10.4.6 I tried mounting it with Toast but it doesn't even recognize it what could be the problem / solution? David Norris-Elye

>I'm with you George. I run 2 UAD's in a non AMD 8131 Dual 2ghz G5 and >regularly run them over 90% with complete stability and no computer >slow down. Well that's great for the very few out there that don't own a Mac with PCI-X. However, this does very little for the 90% that DO own a PCI-X Mac, with the dreaded AMD chip. What you're actually saying here is that if you own a Mac from the "old school" PCI days everything is fine with the UAD-1 card, which is apparently stuck in the "old school" days of PCI. Any newer thinking or change in the Bus, and UA is lost and they can't figure out how to make their card perform properly. (Which BTW they promised to fix, and stated they were working on a fix) This is because they are selling an OLD design and they refuse to update that design. (And it needs to be updated, IMHO) The original message posted was about trying a UAD-1 card in a PCI-E Intel Mac, and my advice stays the same. When they come, let's hope Universal Audio does a better job with PCI-E than they've done with PCI-X, because my UAD-1 card works more efficiently in my OLD G4 running OS 9, than it does in the G5 running OS X. Since the G5's with PCI-X have been out for years, UA should have designed a newer card to work with the new G5s or offered a Firewire UAD-1 bridge..... or something. I wonder what their excuse will be for the PCI-E bus? Cheers.....NOT!

>a client sent me audio files as a disk image file but for some >reason it won't open on my iBook G4 , 1GB >ram running OSX 10.4.6 > >I tried mounting it with Toast but it doesn't even recognize it Get info on the files and under <Open with:> select DiskImageMounter in the pop-up menu. Double-click to mount the image. If that doesn't work, the files may be corrupt. Regards - Colin

On 30 Apr 2006, at 18:20, David Norris-Elye wrote: > Apr 30th, 1:17pm > > a client sent me audio files as a disk image file but for some > reason it won't open on my iBook G4 , 1GB > ram running OSX 10.4.6 > > I tried mounting it with Toast but it doesn't even recognize it > > what could be the problem / solution? > > David Norris-Elye > > It's probably corrupt. May be worth trying to open it with the OSX Disk Utility File -> Open Disk Image ... Stuart

On Apr 30, 2006, at 10:03 AM, jonathankek2000 wrote: > The original message posted was about trying a UAD-1 card in a PCI-E > Intel Mac, and my advice stays the same. When they come, let's hope > Universal Audio does a better job with PCI-E than they've done with > PCI-X, because my UAD-1 card works more efficiently in my OLD G4 > running OS 9, than it does in the G5 running OS X. I do agree about the loss of DSP. As for the age of the card design, there is a good option: You could always use a Magma chassis, and not only get better performance, but add more slots to your existing system. Magma is even developing a card for the Mac Book Pro, and already have one for the G4 Powerbook. George ________________________________________________________ www.utopiaparkwaymusic.com Mac AND PC: The only way to fly 8-}

Am 30.04.2006 um 17:42 schrieb logic-users@yahoogroups.com: > Re: G5 dual 2.5 Model M9457 Hi, I'm owning a 2,5 Dual G5, what is the problem with the AMD CHIP? Regards, Frank Valet

I am one of those who use a Logitech keyboard instead of an Apple mainly because they don't make a USB wireless but also because I like to have all the extra keys. The only problem is that the key label function in Key Commands doesn't always work so I use the key position feature instead on many occasions. The backside of this is that I forget the commands I don't use so often and when I want to see what they are it's displayed by a number which is hard to identify. And now to the question, is there a place where I can find a map of key labels with their responding number. I know I can do this myself but if there was a way to download/print it would be faster.

> Just hooked up this Mobile I/O from the group buy, and I don't get > output. The input lights on the front of the box light, and the > meters in the Console software show input, and Logic sees input. But > no output lights on the box or in any of the software. I've sent an > e mail to MH support, but it's the weekend... any suggestions? I'm > still pretty inexperienced with these things, so I may have missed > something obvious, but what? > > thanks > > James Irelan > Drop down the MIO "Utilities menu, and select "Re-set all outputs". That should do it. Best Regards, Ed Billeaud Audio Engineer/Owner Snowflake Studio P.O. Box 7637 Breckenridge, CO 80424 970-453-6830 edva@earthlink.net

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Sean McCoy <osr@...> wrote: > Although I doubt he'll need to do this, is it really possible to > manipulate the tracks' record-ready status from the Tranzport and > still record simultaneous audio and MIDI? I'll call Frontier on > Monday, but I'm interested in any secrets that may be revealed! The way to do this on a Logic Control, since 7.0.1 (I think), is to record-enable the audio tracks, select one, record-pause, select the MIDI track, record. Alternately, start recording, then select the MIDI track. John Pitcairn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - LC Xmu Logic/Mackie Control emulation & management, LC Xview software LC/MC display, Logic environments & stuff... Opus Locus - http://www.opuslocus.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "djunquemel" <djunquemel@...> wrote: > I hooked them up, each with a 3.5mm to stereo 1/4", and connected > them with an adaptor (one stereo 3.5mm to two stereo 3.5mm) into > the headphone jack on my macbook pro. Sounds a bit suspicious to me. You want a stereo 3.5mm plug at the Mac end, which leads to a MONO 1/4" plug at the speaker. Or stereo 3.5mm to 2x mono RCA plugs (a type of lead commonly available at stereo stores), with RCA to mono 1/4" adapters at each speaker. Do you have a pair of headphones? How do things sound through those? John Pitcairn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - LC Xmu Logic/Mackie Control emulation & management, LC Xview software LC/MC display, Logic environments & stuff... Opus Locus - http://www.opuslocus.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Stuart Holmes <stumusic@...> wrote: > > Are you using an interface to get audio into your computer? If so, > you should also use it to get audio out. The DA converters in the > laptop are far from the best. Also, don't be surprised if going with > the cheapest solution is at least partially to blame. Just as good > mics are extremely important to a good sounding recording, Monitors > are as well. Also be aware that in some cases near-field studio > monitors a designed to be extremely accurate at close range and can > have a very small sweet spot when positioned correctly. Listening > outside that sweet spot can sound pretty dismal. Were you listening > to commercial releases in iTunes or listening to your own projects? > Another possibility you must consider is that the monitors are > telling exactly what you need to know... the mix has problems. Thx for the reply Stuart, No there is definitely a problem. The sound is all broken up and there are delays, and phase shifts between the two monitors. It's really so bad that I am sure its not working properly. I even played stuff directly from CD's and it sounded like that. I am not using any device for audio input. I am just using midi for input at this time. Apparently, it seems that the signal is not converted fast enough from digital to analog, through this headphone jack, so I have to find another (faster) way to get it out.

>> > > Drop down the MIO "Utilities menu, and select > "Re-set all outputs". That should do it. > > Best Regards, > > Ed Billeaud Ed, Thanks. It hasn't so far, although before I tried that I was able to get output on an iTunes song by selecting ULN-2DAW1+2OutAll in the Patchbay Parameters box. But no guitar output, although input continues to register. James

Your I/O doesn't have an out for monitors? Kyle Sent from Kyle's hiptop email me back at imkyle@hiptop.suncom.com Please excuse any spelling errors and don't take short messages personally!

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> No there is definitely a problem. The sound is all broken up and there > are delays, and phase shifts between the two monitors. It's really so > bad that I am sure its not working properly. I even played stuff > directly from CD's and it sounded like that. > > I am not using any device for audio input. I am just using midi for > input at this time. Apparently, it seems that the signal is not > converted fast enough from digital to analog, through this headphone > jack, so I have to find another (faster) way to get it out. Try raising the latency of your native audio card. James