On Jan 31, 2006, at 6:02 AM, tony vincent wrote: > best file format to record in? > i've scoured the past posts, but nothing seemed to really define > what the > best format to track in (SDII, AIFF or WAV). i'm i'm going to be > swapping > files (on occasion) w/ protools users, what format should i use? > and if > just swapping with other logic users? > tv > Broadcast wave, what is just called wave in the Logic Pro world. It is cross platform compatible, and contains the timing data DSII used to be known for. George ________________________________________________________ www.utopiaparkwaymusic.com Mac AND PC: The only way to fly 8-}

On Jan 31, 2006, at 9:57 AM, Maurits van de Kamp wrote: > SDII has the added advantage that it can contain region/song position > information, but keep in mind that this is not done automatically. If > you want your regions to be visible in the SDII file, select it in > the audio window and choose "write region information to file" or > something like that (Logic normally keeps that information in the > song-file and leaves the region information in the SDII files > untouched). > > Maurits. Like I said in the other post, broadcast wave files have a similar thing as well. And SDII files won't work on most PC apps, so you will need to convert them to ]wave or aiff if you go to a PC anyways. George ________________________________________________________ www.utopiaparkwaymusic.com Mac AND PC: The only way to fly 8-}

From: "Gareth Henderson" <gareth@hlstudios.co.uk> > If you are thinking of buying Waves I strongly advise against it. I've > been a customer of theirs for 8 years and have always appreciated the > quality of the product, however they are now in market where many > companies > offer similar products with equal or better quality and no "golden > handcuffs". > Rant over! > Gareth I had not been following this thread, but I'm glad I happened to catch this message since today is the last day for the group buy. Now, I need to ask what's certainly a stupid question... So, er, uh, Wavearts and Waves are NOT the same company then, right? I had shied away from the Wavearts group buy because I had been advised to not get involved w/ the Waves stuff because of the never-ending fees for maintaining their products current status. So, just to satisfy my curiosity then so I have everything clear as a bell, are there any similar fees with the Wavearts stuff? And does the Wavearts stuff require that stupid iLok that Waves does? I'm ashamed to sign my name to this, cause I know it's gotta be a really dumb question....but Darlene Thanks ya'll! [Logic Express 7.1.1, Tascam FW-1884 interface, Power Mac G5, 2 GHz DP, OS 10.4.2 tiger, 1.5 gig ram, 160 gig hd]

> I'd be curious to know exactly what plugs you've been > replacing with which I can't find anything, for example, that > I like better than L2 for master limiting (except sometimes L3) Universal Audio Precision Limiter (for UAD), or TC Electronic MD3, which is the System 6000 Brickwall Limiter (for Powercore) - I prefer both to the L2 and L3. I suspect the Sony Oxford Limiter will also be available for Powercore soon. Can't specifically recommend a native one off the top of my head, I must admit, but I haven't tried the WaveArts limiter, or perhaps the new Bias Mastering Tools. The URS Classic Console compressors have limiters, if you want more of an analog console style limiter. I certainly wouldn't say the Waves Limiters are irreplaceable, but they are useful. Jules

On 31.1.2006, at 19.05, russma8 wrote: > Read this auction: > > http://tinyurl.com/8l75z > > How can they sell what seems to be a legitimate unopened full, non- > academic version of Logic Pro 7 for ~$100 less than the normal going > rate? Is there any reason I shouldn't pull the trigger on this? > > And if I do, it's just $49 to upgrade to the Intel-friendly v7.2, > right? > Personally I would touch nothing at Ebay..too much scamming going on. One of the worst ones was a few weeks ago when someone tried to sell a picture (yes you read right) of an audio equipment in a way that it looked as you were buying the hardware and not a digitized picture :-( Cheers Check out the web page for my band updated 28.6.2005 . New home address : http://jormapen.fidisk.fi

On 1/31/06, russma8 <russm@w-link.net> wrote: > How can they sell what seems to be a legitimate unopened full, non- > academic version of Logic Pro 7 for ~$100 less than the normal going > rate? Is there any reason I shouldn't pull the trigger on this? > > And if I do, it's just $49 to upgrade to the Intel-friendly v7.2, > right? Buy it with PayPal and take the Buyer Protection Option. That should cover you in case it turns out to be less than legit. Kent

Hi Grant, you wrote: > I'm running an old set up that has been very stable until I added a > second delta 1010 card this week. > G4 Quicksilver 867 Khz > 1 GB Ram I ran a G4 1 MHz with a D1010 and a D410 until recently - I had 1.5 Gb of RAM - maybe you need a bit more? > 2 off Delta 1010 PCI Cards > > And since installing the second Card performance has dropped off > really noticably; resulting in more "Core Audio Overload" messages - > but also a new problem I've not had before that of "Unable to > synchronise Audio and Midi" You have got the two cards linked physically, haven't you? You need to plug a digital out from one card into the digital in of the other. Also in the M-Audio panel - check you've chosen the right one to act as master (the one you're using digital out from). Kind regards, Mike. ::: ::: from Mike Levon ::: ::: H O L Y G R O U N D R E C O R D S ::: ::: http://www.holyground.co.uk ::: ::: England's first independent record label

From: "russma8" <russm@w-link.net> > Read this auction: > http://tinyurl.com/8l75z > How can they sell what seems to be a legitimate unopened full, non- > academic version of Logic Pro 7 for ~$100 less than the normal going it's not much more at Amazon.com, only $889. or compare: http://www.pricegrabber.com/p__Apple_Apple_Logic_Pro_7,__8040913/search=appl e+logic

>>> Do you still have OS9 on your G4?<< > > Yes, I had two drives with the two systems on them. However, the > system worked fine prior to upgrading to LAP7, in either OS9 or OSX. > >>> If so does that system have a Unitor midi driver installed? If it >>> does and you dont need it, trash it!<< > > Yes, I do have the drivers installed. I still have to keep LAP 6.4 > and OS9 because my clients' stuff is done with that combo. > Eventually, I'll be able to phase it all out and work only in OSX > with LAP 7. You could always disable the driver in OS 9 Extensions manager, just enable it when you need it! I am not saying this is your problem just that, thats what cured my system of a very similar issue. Good Luck, Steve.

>From: "grant_bridgeman2002" > >Dear all, > >I'm running an old set up that has been very stable until I added a >second delta 1010 card this week. COnfiguration is: > >Logic 6.4 >OS 10.3.8 >G4 Quicksilver 867 Khz >1 GB Ram >2 off Delta 1010 PCI Cards > >And since installing the second Card performance has dropped off >really noticably; resulting in more "Core Audio Overload" messages - >but also a new problem I've not had before that of "Unable to >synchronise Audio and Midi" - geneally accomanied with silence >instead of sound. The only way to fix is to re launch the Audio >Engine. Hi Grant, The Delta software allows for the two cards to sync to a single card's clock, you've done this, correct? >I've experiemented with different sizes of Input buffer (from 512 to >2048) and no one setting seems any more / less stable than another. > >I only get this error when I am working on sound to video, and >running a quick time movie. The addition of a second card will put a higher load on the PCI bus but it doesn't seem like it would be this much. Is there another open slot you could move the new card to? HW

On Jan 31, 2006, at 8:02 AM, tony vincent wrote: > best file format to record in? > i've scoured the past posts, but nothing seemed to really define > what the > best format to track in (SDII, AIFF or WAV). i'm i'm going to be > swapping > files (on occasion) w/ protools users, what format should i use? > and if > just swapping with other logic users? > tv > Hey Tony, SDII only goes to 24bit 48k so I've stopped using that one for a while, just in case there are sessions at 96k Since I work with macs mostlly I use AIF Most PC's can read AIF, but if in doubt use WAV I dont think sonically there is a difference Ciao Gio

This has turned out to be a great thread with all the good info... I'm still curious about these specific questions.... - I'm curious - currently I have a 2408 Mark III. Does anyone know if this unit has higher quality summing architecture than logic? Also - how does the 2408 Mark III compare in this regard - to the RME Multiface or metric halo or digi 002? - I understand that the internal busing architecture of Logic is 32 bit - Pro tools HD is 48 bit ... And the metric halo is a whopping 80 bit! I would be curious to hear any opinions on COMPARING these various systems in terms of best sonic quality mixes... (especially to ProTools HD) - Does anyone know the internal summing bit rate of the 2408? -- Thanks - RevDave CoolCat@hosting4days.com [db-lists]

i, for one, wasnt around 2 years ago, i would definitely participate in this. is there a rule about how frequently a group buy can be performed on a particular company? - Doug

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Doug Pettway <dougzilla04@y...> wrote: > i, for one, wasnt around 2 years ago, i would > definitely participate in this. > is there a rule about how frequently a group buy can > be performed on a particular company? We try to have at least one year between group buys from the same company. I was actually contacted by a friend at Ohm Force not too long ago. I'm sure we will do a third group buy with them when they are ready, but it will still be a while. If you are already dying for some Ohm stuff please don't use this as a reason to not buy at normal price which is still a great value! Best wishes Jeremy

Gareth Henderson wrote: > If you are thinking of buying Waves I strongly advise against it. I've >been a customer of theirs for 8 years and have always appreciated the >quality of the product, however they are now in market where many companies >offer similar products with equal or better quality and no "golden >handcuffs". > Well I appreciate all of the responses on this. I am definitely not going to incur periodic fees after paying a lot of up-front money for a bundle....I suppose Waves' strategy is to sell only to big budget studios.(?) I am really only looking for mastering plugs and like the Masters Bundle quite a bit, but there seems to be a consensus that the UAD plugs are at least as good (but they don't work in PCI-X slots!!??) Thanks, Dave

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Darlene/Breakthrough Music" <brkthrum@b...> wrote: > I had not been following this thread, but I'm glad I happened to > catch this message since today is the last day for the group buy. > Now, I need to ask what's certainly a stupid question... So, er, > uh, Wavearts and Waves are NOT the same company then, right? Definitely not the same company. www.waves.com www.wavearts.com > So, just to satisfy my curiosity then so I have everything clear > as a bell, are there any similar fees with the Wavearts stuff? > And does the Wavearts stuff require that stupid iLok that Waves > does? There are no annual fees with WaveArts like Wave charges, though it looks like they do charge an upgrade fee for big point releases only (like v4 to v5), like Emagic used to do. :-P However the group buy is for the brand new v5 plugins so I'm sure it will be a while before they come out with v6. Best wishes Jeremy

On Jan 31, 2006, at 9:02 PM, George Leger III wrote: > Like I said in the other post, broadcast wave files have a similar > thing as well. And SDII files won't work on most PC apps, so you will > need to convert them to ]wave or aiff if you go to a PC anyways. Sorry, I still was used to the idea that BWF wasn't properly implemented. :o) But I remember now it became pretty usable in one of the latest updates, didn't it? Maurits.

Hi Darlene, Dumb question, hmmmmm.... maybe. One the answer to which you could have discerned easily by visiting the web site and downloading the demos. Be that as it may.... Hurry up and sign up for the group buy! Waves and WaveArts are indeed separate companies. No iLock is required for the WaveArts plugs, in fact I just got the serial number for my TrackPlug. So I'm good to go with it. After using it for a bit I find it easy to use and quite nice sounding, although not entirely intuitive, so I also recommend you download the manual. Steve

Hi list, Is it possible to tie a Key Command to a specific MIDI message? (For example, pressing "A" on your keyboard sends MIDI controller #1 with a value of 42). This would be like a MIDI- triggered keycommand in reverse. I've been told how this can work with the Caps Lock keyboard, but it's not convenient for me to have that window open at all times. Is there another solution that can be done via "regular" keyboards? (Alternatively, does anyone know of a driver that can jury-rig a USB computer keyboard to send MIDI control change messages?) Thanks for any help! Mike

Do you guys know if DDS-3 tape would be good for doing backups of audio? I got a tape backup drive on a machine of mine and the thought just came.

Am 25.01.2006 um 23:32 schrieb Andrew Harrison: > I can only support what people have been saying about VSL Opus 1. I've > used it to compose a number of scores for theatre, in pop music and > various other things. The Legato Tool seems to work pretty well too. > It's the best for its price. > I second that. Best, Helge -- System: 2m, 110 kg Human being, male, G4 1.25 MHz DP, 1.5 Gb RAM, Mac OS 10.4.x 2x120 Gb Internal ATA Disks, 2x250 Gb external FW Disk Mhlabs Mobile I/O 2882 Logic Platinum 7.x Emagic MT 4 ------------------------------------------------------------ CD/DVD Replication for EC customers: http://www.recordfactory.de

> Hi, > That´s one of Logic´s main drawbacks. if you want to move it later > use the sample delay pluggin. If you want to move earlier you are in > trouble. If it´s just one track you can try opening the sample > editor, zoom in all the way, uncheck zero crossings and move the > archor. with more tracks...well I can´t help :-) This reminds me that there is a free-ware AU plug out there that simply reports track plugin delay to the host which then of course, compensates for this delay (measured in samples). Now, if only I could remember the name of it. Don't hold me to this, but it could be: LatencyFixer Best Regards, Matt _____________________________________ MATT MCKENZIE-SMITH MUSIC • AUDIO DESIGN • PRODUCTION PO Box 10395, Adelaide 5000, South Australia. Ph.+61 416 197 883 www.mattrixx.net _____________________________________

I have checked the demo versions of the wavearts plugs hoping to get rid of waves finally..unfortunately no love. Even after several days I was not able to find settings which do not sound at least a little bit harsh or rough. They might be good as track plugs for special purposes, but not for mastering. At least not for me. I love Waves plugs bc of their sound, but their upgrade policy is like renting their plugs...simply unbearable. Going for URS plugs seems to be the better option. Quite pricey, but definitely great! Am 30.01.2006 um 00:42 schrieb Peter Ostry: > Btw - I finally bought the multiband compressor from WaveArts. > Slightly bitchy to me, that thing. Powerful but very hard to get a > smooth operation. Is it more for the "rough side" of music or do some > of you get a smooth result with proper adjustments? For example a > song with acoustic guitar, electric bass, soft male voic Best, Helge -- System: Human being, male, 2m, 110 kg, G4 1.25 MHz DP, 1.5 Gb RAM, Mac OS 10.4.x 2x120 Gb Internal ATA Disks, 2x250 Gb external FW Disks (LaCie) Mhlabs Mobile I/O 2882 Logic Platinum 7.x Emagic Unitor ------------------------------------------------------------ CD/DVD Replication for EC customers: http://www.recordfactory.de

Hi all, I am trying to insert transformers in series before individual audio instruments in order to change incoming CCs from 4 to 11,but only on specific instruments..not globally.Should be simple (probably is) but I don't get it.The audio instruments seem to have outs but not visible ins. Likewise the sequencer input object does not have an output to cable to. So where to I chain the transformers? TIA, Jeff F

>> I'd be curious to know exactly what plugs you've been >> replacing with which I can't find anything, for example, that >> I like better than L2 for master limiting (except sometimes L3) > > Universal Audio Precision Limiter (for UAD), or TC Electronic MD3, > which is > the System 6000 Brickwall Limiter (for Powercore) - I prefer both > to the L2 > and L3. I suspect the Sony Oxford Limiter will also be available for > Powercore soon. > > Can't specifically recommend a native one off the top of my head, I > must > admit, but I haven't tried the WaveArts limiter, or perhaps the new > Bias > Mastering Tools. The URS Classic Console compressors have > limiters, if you > want more of an analog console style limiter. I certainly wouldn't > say the > Waves Limiters are irreplaceable, but they are useful. As far as a native one is concerned. The AdLimiter in Logic is quite good. ie Much better than the L1 for example. Not a lot of options, but can sound quite good if you feed it right with some nicely timed master compression. Best Regards, Matt _____________________________________ MATT MCKENZIE-SMITH MUSIC • AUDIO DESIGN • PRODUCTION PO Box 10395, Adelaide 5000, South Australia. Ph.+61 416 197 883 www.mattrixx.net _____________________________________