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From: keith patchel <mod12@verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 11:27:35 AM
Subject: Can't find tutorial settings for ES2
Message #207151
Hi folks....wish you all a happy and successful 2006... In the Logic 7 pluggin reference manual on page 287 there are all this tutorials for the ES2....... when I try to locate the tuorial settings dropdown/folder.... I can't find anything when I try load setting or go to the downarrow for the Factory settings...there is just nothing for tutorial settings Can anyone recommend something????? Also is there anywhere to go to share /swap preset settings for sculpture and ther other Logic pluggins ????? thanks Keith
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From: keith patchel <mod12@verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 11:42:10 AM
Subject: Re: What audio interface should I buy? (pref. portable)
Message #207152
the m audio quattro rocks 4 in 4 out plus midi about $250.00 good luck
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From: Uro <boba_fett_0@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 11:19:30 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Delay sending Mail to logic-users@yahoogroups.com
Message #207153
This is a reply to #207147.
--- Orren Merton <orren@logic-users.org> wrote: > Why a Luger? Are you assuming all the co-moderators > are German, have > German guns, or live in Germany? I, for example, > live in the United > States, and I'm watching you with my crossbow. :) > Happy New Year to everyone, > Orren Orren, our fearless Talisman. Happy Lugging this New Year.
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From: Chaz <chazperx@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 11:42:56 AM
Subject: [LUG] Minimum System Requirements for Logic 5x
Message #207154
This is a reply to #207150.
I finally stole my son's computer (Because he got a new one), and I want to use it for Logic 5x. Where can I find the minimum system requirements in cluding RAM? Thanks Chaz
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From: Peter Ostry <po@ostry.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 2:11:41 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Using Logic Pro with a MOTU MTPAV Please Help!!
Message #207155
This is a reply to #207149.
On 31.12.2005, at 17:59, Sean McCoy wrote: > At 01:22 AM 12/31/2005, you wrote: >> The problem I have is when I go to record a new midi track with a >> differnt >> instrument, and one of the other midi tracks are playing back while I >> record. It basicly puts the other midi track notes in with the >> new device >> that I am using. Does anyone know how I can fix this? > > I'm no Environment expert, but it sounds to me like you may have an > extra cable in your Environment hardwiring the output of one of your > MIDI devices to an input. Take a look there---but be careful! You are right, the environment is hardwired. That is by no means a usual or flexible setup but rather dedicated MIDI routing for a specific purpose. I jump in here because I am working with Scott on that and we could really need some comments about Logic's ability for MIDI multitracking. Anyone doing that extensively? ___ Here are the basic facts: 1 - There are 4 hardware synths on their own ports, each one sends on MIDI channel 1. 2 - One port carries channels 1-4 of a 5th synth and channel 5 from the 6th synth (I think that is the only hardware-set channel). 3 - One port with a virtual drumset which may or may not go through a separate drum module which also registers as a separate port. 4 - One port with a keyboard/controller to control plugins and playing softsynths. 5 - One of the external synths sends a clock via an additional port (I don't know what for and if external sync is used or even makes sense here). 6 - The audio interface provides enough inputs for all. ___ And here are the targets and requirements (or wishes, at least): 1 - A couple of musicians should be able to pick any selection of hardware synths and record MIDI to Logic on dedicated tracks. 2 - Setting MIDI channels on hardware is not desirable. 3 - It should be possible to record audio together with MIDI. 4 - I assume that it should be possible to record audio via the external synths after the musicians left, based on the recorded MIDI data. 5 - It should be possible to playback through the currently connected hardware synthesizers. 6 - Monitoring all incoming data within Logic is required. 7 - The setup should allow to exchange external synths without changing anything in Logic. --- Scott might correct me if anything of the above is not true. We managed the first half of the setup (recording) by setting fixed channels after the Physical Input via transformer/instrument combos: transformers set/split the channels and are cabled to standard instruments which are assigned to arrange tracks. Logic is set to automatically demix by channel, recording works. Simultaneous audio recording works too, there is just the Logic bug that an audio channel has to be selected before recording starts (in MIDI/Audio mixed mode). After some confusion with Aux'es the monitoring works in standard configuration, via the input objects. Now we are going to look at the MIDI output to trigger the external synths. That part is hard to test for me because I have just one old hardware synth and only 4 input channels on my interface. Scott does not want to configure the hardware synths so I guess we will need some switching to avoid loops while the synths are played by the people, right? Maybe a single button for recording and playback? Btw, I support the method not to configure hardware. I prefer also to leave external gear in a default state as long as possible. If something goes wrong you can simple do a factory reset, no need to feed SysEx or go through setup protocols and probably introduce new failures. Any hints and comments are welcome, especially for the alternating record/playback stuff which seems to become unconvenient. I guess a device which switches several configured audio and MIDI paths at once does not exist on the market, at least not for a reasonable price? I thought about a mechanical switch because the system is always brought to a halt before switching and good components do not alter the signal. But I prefer to do it via software. --- A happy New Year to you all! Many thanks to the admins for the great job they do. Many thanks to all newbies for their sometimes weird questions wich give us the opportunity to look like full of wisdom. Many thanks to all who helped me and others to get things running. Many thanks to the people who spread out their experience and ideas to expand our horizon. And many thanks to Logic. We complain a lot about it but it works day after day and produces wonderful music. With a little help, of course :-) Cu next year. ___ Peter Ostry
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From: "dkohl" <dkohl@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 11:47:36 AM
Subject: [LUG] 17" Powerbook Memory Question
Message #207156
Thanks to all who provided counsel on my question about "overloading" my Powerbook. I am interested in upgrading RAM. I searched the Web and found that there were two common styles of 1GB RAM modules for Powerbooks, however, how do I figure out which style is appropriate for my machine? I purchased my PB in September. It is the 2nd most current hardware (as they updated the platform in October). Thanks.
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From: Diane McGuire <diane.mcguire@talk21.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 1:00:18 PM
Subject: Re: writing scores
Message #207157
When you're working in the Score Editor Window you will find that switching off 'Interpretation' in the box on the left might help. Also, what you see is affected by the Score Quantize value ('Qua') in the same box. You will often find that you need to actually click in the Rest (break??) that you want. e.g. If you want a dotted crotchet (1/4 note) followed by a quaver (1/8) rest you will find that when you click in a dotted crotchet it will be displayed as a minim (1/2). You must then enter a quaver rest from the partbox after the note. Then it will look right. Good luck
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From: "rounik2002" <rounik2002@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 1:15:30 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: What audio interface should I buy? (pref. portable)
Message #207158
This is a reply to #207150.
Hi, I've just bought a presonus firebox (£250 UK) - i think it's about $299 in the US...with 6 in and out and 2 great preamps. it's portable looks good and feels so much better than the emi 6|2 and preamp box i was using before. i'm using a g4 laptop 1ghz 1gb ram so portability was really important for me - also quality of preamps was important as i want to mic up my guitar and capture my voice and do field recordings on a budget. i think there is a good review on the soundonsound website... or just type http://www.presonus.com/firebox.html#reviews... some would go for a presonus firepod...which i think is also portable and a step up from the firebox. hopes that helps a bit. rounik www.rounikmusic.net
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From: Chris Coccia <mothra@descentrecords.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 1:18:55 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Will Logic 7 run on a G4 /733MHz/768MB ?
Message #207159
This is a reply to #207138.
On Dec 30, 2005, at 9:11 PM, russma8 wrote: > And, are there drivers for the DIGI 001? > > I don't use many plugs simultanously, but I'm guessing I'll need to > get more RAM. > > Any input is appreciated. > Im still running it on a (soon to be upgraded) G4/800. My RAM is maxed out though at 1.5GB so you would probably do well to bump that up a bit more.. It works, but obviously I cant get the plugin count a dual G4 would using VIs but eh thats why when my tax return comes Im getting a dual Gigadesigns CPU upgrade hehe.. It should work just fine for you. With regards to the Digi 001 though, I think you may be limited to sticking with Mac OS 10.3. My roommate hasnt upgraded his PT station to Tiger because of something or other, but I do think he can upgrade his software from Digi for $100 or so and it will work in Tiger 10.4 --- Chris www.taishakutenmusic.com www.descentrecords.com
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From: Chris Coccia <mothra@descentrecords.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 1:20:25 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: Logic Pro 8/7.5
Message #207160
This is a reply to #207146.
On Dec 31, 2005, at 8:49 AM, Orren Merton wrote: > Also, the entire GUI will be replaced by a single button that says > "Create Hit Song." This is in keeping with Soundtrack Pro, which will > replace its own GUI with a single button that says "Create Hit > Soundtrack." Waveburner Pro's GUI will be replaced by a button that > says "Assemble Hit Album." > FINALLY!! God Ive been waiting for this since I first launched 4.8 all those years ago!! --- Chris www.taishakutenmusic.com www.descentrecords.com
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From: Pete Thomas <logic@petethomas.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 2:15:43 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: writing scores
Message #207161
This is a reply to #207142.
groovyoperator wrote: > Dear users of Logic > > I have searched in your answers but I havent found one that matches my > question so here it is: > > When I am writing scores in the score editor I find it anoying that > Logic tries to predict what I am going to write. I cant just write what > I want. It seems like logic is overruling my decisions. Logic is > deciding what kind of breaks I should use fx. Is it possible to switch > this behaviour of? Interpretation off? You will see the parameter box to the left when you select a staff in the score editor and unfortunately the interpretation always defaults to on. This can be useful sometimes, especially when you are playing in from a keyboard, but I prefer to have it off (be quiet at the back of the class) when writing via mouse directly into the score. -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments
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From: "Tim McLane" <timmclane@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 1:03:35 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] writing scores
Message #207162
This is a reply to #207142.
I don't know what kind of set up you have and I can't relate to your experience which is, of course, very generally described. What I do is to play ideas or parts into Logic and then edit in the Score view. I think you have quantize or other set-ups fixed so that Logic is "helping" you. let us know what you find out. t
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From: Pete Thomas <logic@petethomas.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 2:22:24 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Embarrassing: Dont know how to create new autoload, preferences,
Message #207163
forums@logic-users.org wrote: > Message posted by Jon <jt3_jon@yahoo.com> > ______________________________________________________________________ > > I found the preference files, as described in the manual, but I seem to have two... > > com.apple.logic.pro (which has the logic icon) > > com.apple.logive.pro.cs (which is just white paper, no icon) > > What is the difference? I'd like to know what I'm deleting before I delete it. > > Thanks again in advance for any help you all can provide. > You can delete them all, the one not in the Logic folder and the whole logic folder as long as you don't mind losing key commands, project manager info. You can also just delete prefs without key commands from the LogicPro>Prefeernces menu To make a new autoload just rename your old autoload (for safety) or delete it), boot logic, make your edits and then save as template and name it "autoload" -- Pete Thomas www.petethomas.co.uk - Free Logic Icons, Environments and EXS Instruments
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From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@goodmedia.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 3:13:28 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] 17" Powerbook Memory Question
Message #207164
This is a reply to #207156.
"dkohl" <dkohl@yahoo.com> wrote: >there were two common styles of 1GB RAM >modules for Powerbooks, however, how do I > figure out which style is appropriate for my >machine? Apple menu -> About This Mac Then click on the "More Info" button. Then click on the "Memory" entry at the left side of subsequent window. The information below the "Speed" tab will be the salient piece of information. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>
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From: Paul Heitsch <Paul@pushplayaudio.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 4:18:52 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: Logic Project Manager
Message #207165
This is a reply to #206954.
>Logic has never watched what other plug-ins use as > samples when making a project folder. > That isn't part of any plug-in spec I've > heard of, yet. Kontakt (when WILL they learn how to spell?) has, for a while now, had a Save option that includes saving the samples with the instrument(s). I use it in ProTools a lot. You have to use the plugin's interface, not the host app, but it's definitely doable. - PH
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From: "Scott Metzger" <scottmetzger3d@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 4:37:40 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Using Logic Pro with a MOTU MTPAV Please Help!!
Message #207166
This is a reply to #207155.
So will anyone from Apple see what Peter wrote? I can't believe Logic won't see any difference between a midi channel on a differnt port. If I am using 10 midi channels, that leaves me with 6 left over midi channels for software synths? How do I contact Apple about this?
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From: Brian Pylant <bappo@brainpilot.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 3:43:02 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Creating Bus tracks in the arrange window
Message #207167
This is a reply to #207034.
[reposted] A little while ago it was discussed how cumbersome it was to have to add a bus, output, etc. to the Arrange Window in order for it to be shown in the Track mixer (which mirrors only the contents of the Arrange window unless global mode is turned on). I found a little bit of a shortcut that makes this a bit more streamlined while mixing: Let's say you're in the Track Mixer and you want to add a bussed effect, say for some drum tracks. You add the bus send to your track(s), and then double-click the bus button to turn on global mode in the Track Mixer and take you to the bus. Once you have the bus selected, option-double-click it and it will be added to the Arrange window, at which point it will remain in the Track Mixer when you turn off global mode. (This is documented in the manual, but I'd never noticed it before. I only recently started using the Track Mixer after years of mixing in the Audio Mixer environment window.) Enjoy! Brian :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Logic Audio Pro 7.1 PowerMac G4 933MHz OS X 10.4.2 1 GB RAM MOTU 828mkII - driver v1.2.5 - CueMix v1.5 - firmware 1.0.1 - bootloader 1.0.1
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From: "mb454545@gmail.com" <mb454545@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 5:38:44 PM
Subject: [LUG] Midi via USB - how good is the timing?
Message #207168
Hi, this is a question for those using MIDI. Until last week I used a stealth serial port to connect my midi interfaces (Unitor, Amt8) to my G4. Worked very well. Now, with my new G5 Dual 2.7, I think about using USB for MIDI. (In fact the new machine does not have the modem connector on the mainboard... there is an empty place instead.. looks like Apple thought that no one would miss it... so I just cannot connect a stealth port... what a mess! ) I remember to have read some complaints about the tightness of timing using USB for MIDI (my main concern is not latency... it's jitter). Is Midi via USB usable? (I mean just a little better than human players..;-) Should I better go with MOL? I'm using Logic 7.01, OSX 10.3.2 on a Dual 2.7. Manni
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From: "as1960" <as@andrewshulman.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 5:06:49 PM
Subject: [LUG] Printing out score and parts - Urgent
Message #207169
Help! I need to quickly resize a finished score and parts to print them both out on a certain number of pages and can't seem to get logic 7 to re-size either. If I hit print and then reduce it in the print dialog, the page edit view is simply printed smaller, but on the same number of pages. No use at all. I need to know the simple way to reduce everything and be able to view it within logic before I print it. How???
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From: "Scott Metzger" <scottmetzger3d@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 4:43:07 PM
Subject: RE: [LUG] Re: Logic Pro 8/7.5
Message #207170
This is a reply to #207146.
Well it pisses me off.. I spent 4 grand for a Quad G5, and Logic Pro, and Logic doesn't handle midi correctly when it is supposed to have the best midi features in any package. I still can't get over the port/midi channel thing in Logic. This is driving me crazy!! Should I pay 200 bucks to call apple and hope they have a solution? Or should I demand a refund on Logic and use Pro tools LE, or Cubase. PORT1 Midi channel 1 should not record to another midi track that is PORT2 Midi Channel 1. scott
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From: "David Bulog" <d2ba@xtra.co.nz>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 6:04:35 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: What audio interface should I buy? (pref. portable)
Message #207171
This is a reply to #207158.
>quotes repositioned and trimmed, footers removed by admin> >I've just bought a presonus firebox (£250 UK) - i think it's about >$299 in the US...with 6 in and out and 2 great preamps. it's portable >looks good and feels so much better than the emi 6|2 and preamp box i >was using before. >i'm using a g4 laptop 1ghz 1gb ram so portability was really important >for me - also quality of preamps was important as i want to mic up my >guitar and capture my voice and do field recordings on a budget. >i think there is a good review on the soundonsound website... or just >type http://www.presonus.com/firebox.html#reviews... >some would go for a presonus firepod...which i think is also portable >and a step up from the firebox. My Pick is either a Digidesign D24 and a DSP farm and a 888/24 --all up around $1300 Ebay prices or an RME Fireface around $1300 Ebay prices or a RME Hamerfal 9652 and RMI ADI around $1300 Ebay prices
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From: Eric Lee <ericleemusic@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 6:42:06 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Crashing Sequence
Message #207172
This is a reply to #207109.
>>> When I click out of the error message it runs fine but of >>> course, the band is six bars past the sequence then and I have to >>> shut down the sequence and frantically jump on the keys to play as >>> many parts as I can remember live with the band. <G> >> I'm so sorry, but I want to say that playing as many parts as you can >> remember would be my favorite option, as an audience member! > I hear you, Eric. Less is more. I agree in general, but > using the sequence allows me to play the trombone which is actually > my first instrument. :-) On a more helpful note, since I haven't seen any other suggestions... You're talking about a problem with a particular "Song" not sequence, right ('cause sequences can become corrupt)? If so, do you have a bunch of sequence objects starting at the same time, with maybe some heavy duty effects, that correspond timewise with your overload? If so, try to reduce the load that's introduced at that particular point. Stagger sequences, remove use of effects on those sequences. A sudden demand for file and effect information at one instant has been a suspected culprit in some of my cases. Logic should be able to "look ahead" and spread the demand, but check it out. Hope this helps (though I think your live playing is best :)). Eric
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From: "markdvc2002" <mark@logic-users.org>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 7:39:03 PM
Subject: [LUG] Happy new year (was: delay in sending..)
Message #207173
This is a reply to #207147.
Orren Merton <orren@l...> wrote: > > Are you assuming all the co-moderators are German, have > German guns, or live in Germany? I, for example, live in the United > States, and I'm watching you with my crossbow. :) > > Happy New Year to everyone, > > Orren Speaking as the German based moderator (albeit Irish, and absolutely pacifist) - best wishes, peace and health for all on the LUG for 2006. SIncere thanks to everyone for helping to keep the LUG the superb resource it has been for so many years :-)). kind regards Mark Cahill
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From: Robert Church <coastsideguitar@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 5:22:41 PM
Subject: [LUG] [OT] MasterWriter on sale for a few more hours
Message #207174
MasterWriter is a suit of songwriting tools for Mac or PC. It is on sale until the end of today, 12/31. Reg price $289 on sale for $199. http://www.masterwriter.com/ Robert Church www.coastsideguitar.com
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From: "Scott Metzger" <scottmetzger3d@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 8:09:37 PM
Subject: RE: [LUG] Happy new year (was: delay in sending..)
Message #207175
This is a reply to #207173.
So can we get rid of the Delay in sending? Happy New Years! Scott ________________ Speaking as the German based moderator (albeit Irish, and absolutely pacifist) - best wishes, peace and health for all on the LUG for 2006. SIncere thanks to everyone for helping to keep the LUG the superb resource it has been for so many years :-)). kind regards Mark Cahill Yahoo! Groups Links
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