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From: Peter Ostry <po@ostry.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 at 7:32:32 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Logic Pro 8/7.5, and Peter Ostry
Message #207126
This is a reply to #207123.
On 30.12.2005, at 21:42, Scott Metzger wrote: > If you have ever had > Peter help out with an issue, you can see that he is ... ...he is an ordinary guy who talks very much (sometimes) and asks very much (always) and therefore gets a chance to produce relatively many right words if you ignore the dumb ones... In the LUG are many people who know much more than I. I cannot even count them. ___ Peter Ostry
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From: "Scott Metzger" <scottmetzger3d@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 at 6:44:24 PM
Subject: [LUG] Delay sending Mail to logic-users@yahoogroups.com
Message #207127
Does anyone know why it takes 3 hours to send a msg to logic-users@yahoogroups.com? 3 hours later I will recieve the email I sent via hotmail. Hmmm. Scott
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From: Mati <zurich.enteract@rcn.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 at 7:06:09 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Manually Validating Plugins?
Message #207128
This is a reply to #207103.
> On 26.12.2005, at 06:35, Mati wrote: > >> I need to get attack going in 7.1, but it fails every time - I saw >> someone state that you can manually pass a plugin, how does one go >> about this? > > Logic Pro >> Preferences >> Start Logic AU Manager... > > Logic shows you all plugins in a list, failed plugins are grey. You > can activate them with the "Use" checkboxes. Your own risk of course. > > ___ > Peter Ostry > Peter you and Mike are lifesavers. thank you very much. /m
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From: "Scott Metzger" <scottmetzger3d@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 at 7:39:09 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Logic Pro 8/7.5, and Peter Ostry
Message #207129
This is a reply to #207126.
<quotes fixed by admin> On 30.12.2005, at 21:42, Scott Metzger wrote: > If you have ever had > Peter help out with an issue, you can see that he is ... ...he is an ordinary guy who talks very much (sometimes) and asks very much (always) and therefore gets a chance to produce relatively many right words if you ignore the dumb ones... In the LUG are many people who know much more than I. I cannot even count them. ___ Peter Ostry ---------------------------------- Well you should at least get the LUG user of the month award, and a free dinner at Denny's. :)
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From: Uro <boba_fett_0@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 at 8:05:19 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Logic Pro 8/7.5, and Peter Ostry
Message #207130
This is a reply to #207129.
--- Scott Metzger <scottmetzger3d@hotmail.com> wrote: > ---------------------------------- > > Well you should at least get the LUG user of the > month award, and a free > dinner at Denny's. > > :) My vote for Peter Ostry as LUGger of the Year.... and I will include a free pint of his favourite and a supper at WIMPIES!
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From: Uro <boba_fett_0@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 at 8:07:02 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Delay sending Mail to logic-users@yahoogroups.com
Message #207131
This is a reply to #207127.
<quotes repositioned, footers removed by admin> --- Scott Metzger <scottmetzger3d@hotmail.com> wrote: > Does anyone know why it takes 3 hours to send a msg > to > logic-users@yahoogroups.com? > > 3 hours later I will recieve the email I sent via > hotmail. > > Hmmm. > > Scott LUGger Big Brother is watching you (with a Luger, no doubt)....
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From: "chinbassman" <chinjazz@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 at 9:04:33 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Logic Pro 8/7.5, and Peter Ostry
Message #207132
This is a reply to #207126.
Modesty is a powerful character trait. :)
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From: Dave Shirk <dave@pamlicosounds.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 at 10:31:01 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Delay sending Mail to logic-users@yahoogroups.com
Message #207133
This is a reply to #207127.
On Dec 30, 2005, at 7:44 PM, Scott Metzger wrote: > Does anyone know why it takes 3 hours to send a msg to > logic-users@yahoogroups.com? > > 3 hours later I will recieve the email I sent via hotmail. > > Hmmm. > > Scott Scott: The delay is because this group is a moderated group. Your messages are sent to the moderators before they are posted. They check for these messages at various times, and the delays can be 10's of minutes to many hours. They weed out spam, try to correct improper message formatting, ugliness, inappropriate content, etc. IOW - they do us all a favor in dealing with the content that actually gets posted. Happy New Year LUG! Dave Shirk Pamlico Sounds Balcony Records Oriental, NC
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From: "Wade" <bloomer@iprimus.com.au>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 1:49:03 AM
Subject: [LUG] Bump: My output automation is tardy. Maybe YOU can solve this one!
Message #207134
Using Logic Pro 1.1, I've just reached the end of putting together a song and want to get the effect of an almost instant/vertical fade out after a particular last beat. My plan was to do this by either putting a single Mute automation point at the appropriate place on my master Output 1-2 track, or by drawing an almost vertical automation line to zero at the same point. However with either method, I've noticed that my output track is reacting to the automation exactly 1 beat earlier than I've drawn it. I can't work out why this is. There's no delay parameter available on the output track, and all my audio and instrument tracks are reacting to their own automation precisely on time. I kicked the plug-in delay compensation up to its highest setting just in case this was making any difference, but it's not. Besides, there are no plug-ins on my output track yet, anyway. Can anyone suggest to me what might be going on? Any preferences or general Logic behaviour I should know about that I mighta missed or not be aware of? Thanks.
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From: Sean McCoy <osr@jeffnet.org>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 at 9:34:43 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Delay sending Mail to logic-users@yahoogroups.com
Message #207135
This is a reply to #207127.
At 04:44 PM 12/30/2005, you wrote: >Does anyone know why it takes 3 hours to send a msg to >logic-users@yahoogroups.com? > >3 hours later I will recieve the email I sent via hotmail. > >Hmmm. > >Scott The list is moderated.
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From: "chinbassman" <chinjazz@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 at 9:10:11 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Maestro Grand as EXS - sample clipping
Message #207136
This is a reply to #207037.
If anyone is interested, the answer to this sample clipping is posted over in the exs-users Forum.. A great guy named Don Newmeyer pointed me in the right direction. If interested flip over to that forum and search for the "Maestro Grand"... Cheers!
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From: "Roger E. Arnold II" <picklegaxx@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 at 8:58:49 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Logic Pro 8/7.5, and Peter Ostry
Message #207137
This is a reply to #207123.
> Anyone know when this is coming out? Or perhaps what new features they will > have? > > I am hoping they will support midi channels per midi port. I am not having > much luck getting simple in/out midi setups like Cubase. And for multiple > midi recording in Logic can be a nightmare unless you are Peter Ostry. > > BTW, Peter Ostry has gone above, and beyond to help me get setup with Logic > Pro. I thought I would mention this to everyone here. If you have ever had > Peter help out with an issue, you can see that he is the "Jesus Christ" of > Logic. My savior!!! > > Thank you so much for your great help!! > > Scott > It would be nice if they could get Logic Pro 7 and Wave Burner to work better before they concentrate on version 8. I, along with many dedicated logic users am very disappointed in Apple's takeover of Logic. I'm a proud Mac owner, but I am not satisfied with this outcome. Let's face it, logic is not as robust as it used to be. Roger
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From: "russma8" <russm@w-link.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 at 11:11:09 PM
Subject: [LUG] Will Logic 7 run on a G4 /733MHz/768MB ?
Message #207138
And, are there drivers for the DIGI 001? I don't use many plugs simultanously, but I'm guessing I'll need to get more RAM. Any input is appreciated.
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From: Benjamin Wild <wildjamin@gmx.de>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 3:37:03 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Ultrabeat vs. Machinedrum
Message #207139
This is a reply to #207010.
, Benjamin Wild wrote: >> the 'engines' make most of the sound > > The MD is DSP based - not analog, no reason a plugin could not achieve > the same type of sound. > You didn't get what I meant: the machine drum has simple, but special engines to provide different sounds. (it's of course not analog (and I'm not stupid !) - but it has a special sound.. to achieve a nice bd it's good to reduce the sampled(?) click sound of the 'TR' and '??'(½)-engin with the build in parametric eq..) with ultra beat, you have a generic drumsyntheziser, with many features and a strange interface.. I was wondering: how many Luggers really use UB ? and, if you use it: do you really make your own drumsounds ? I'll send you offlist some samples of bds I did. (making long booming BDs should be no problem - but a TR808 is more than this..) With Compliments, Benjamin Wild wildjamin.de
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From: "Scott Metzger" <scottmetzger3d@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 3:22:19 AM
Subject: [LUG] Using Logic Pro with a MOTU MTPAV Please Help!!
Message #207140
This is a reply to #207127.
Hi So I have everything setup to my MOTU MTP. Ports 1-6 have Hardware synths, and drum modules to each port. Port 1 Midi Channel 1 Voyager instr to seq input Port 2 Midi Channel 1 Andromeda instr to seq input Port 3 Midi Channel 1 Jupiter 8 instr to seq input Port 4 Midi Channel 1 Nord Lead 3 instr to seq input Port 4 Midi Channel 2 Nord Lead 3 instr to seq input Port 4 Midi Channel 3 Nord Lead 3 instr to seq input Port 4 Midi Channel 4 Nord Lead 3 instr to seq input Port 4 Midi Channel 5 MicroKorg instr to seq input Port 5 Midi Channel 10 Roland VDrums instr to Port 6 Midi channel 1 Alesis DM5 to seq input Port 5 Midi Channel 10 Roland VDrums instr to seq input Now I can control everything via the matrix editor, only the added notes will trigger the synth. I can even record 2 midi tracks at once pressing the keys on the synths, and having them record their own input which is correct. The problem I have is when I go to record a new midi track with a differnt instrument, and one of the other midi tracks are playing back while I record. It basicly puts the other midi track notes in with the new device that I am using. Does anyone know how I can fix this? Its driving me crazy.. I am soo close to getting Logic fully setup, and now this. Was hoping there was someone on this forum that might have a setup closer to this for helping me out. Thanks, Scott
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From: Jon <jt3_jon@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 at 6:11:26 PM
Subject: Re: Embarrassing: Dont know how to create new autoload, preferences, etc! Help needed (be kind :)
Message #207141
I found the preference files, as described in the manual, but I seem to have two... com.apple.logic.pro (which has the logic icon) com.apple.logive.pro.cs (which is just white paper, no icon) What is the difference? I'd like to know what I'm deleting before I delete it. Thanks again in advance for any help you all can provide.
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From: "groovyoperator" <groovyoperator@yahoo.dk>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 5:26:47 AM
Subject: [LUG] writing scores
Message #207142
Dear users of Logic I have searched in your answers but I havent found one that matches my question so here it is: When I am writing scores in the score editor I find it anoying that Logic tries to predict what I am going to write. I cant just write what I want. It seems like logic is overruling my decisions. Logic is deciding what kind of breaks I should use fx. Is it possible to switch this behaviour of? Happy new year
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From: "HKC" <hkc@surfpost.dk>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 5:43:41 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: Logic Pro 8/7.5, and Peter Ostry
Message #207143
This is a reply to #207137.
Roger wrote: Let's face it, logic is not as robust as it used to be. There must be issues outside of Logic that gets these irregularities. I, and many others, find Logic completely stable which indicates that it must be something else that causes the instability. I come from PC where the choice of motherboard, soundcard, modem.....really makes a difference so I´m used to this.What would be interesting is to compare good Mac systems to bad ones to see if it's possible to pinpoint the cause. I have a G5 2.3 PCI-X with 4.5 GB ram, internal HDs (no firewire), RME 9652, UAD1 and TC Powercore MrkII. The only software that I use apart from the included are Logic Pro 7, Toast 6 Titanium, plugins (mainly the more expensive ones like PSP, Ohm Force, Sonalksis etc) and EXS Manager Pro. I can run with 64 in buffersize during recording of at least 16 simultanous tracks and I never have had to go higher than 128 which I only have to use after severe plugging in. The only problems I have is when I import huge LAW 5.51 files in which case the system sometimes do strange things although crashing is still very rare. Personally I don't think much about Logic 8, the current one does everything I can think of but as always with Logic you have to spend a lot of time with the program to figure it out but I find it's worth it.
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From: Jorma Pennanen <jorma.pennanen@welho.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 6:06:22 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: Logic Pro 8/7.5, and Peter Ostry
Message #207144
This is a reply to #207137.
On 31.12.2005, at 4.58, Roger E. Arnold II wrote: > > It would be nice if they could get Logic Pro 7 and Wave Burner to > work better before they > concentrate on version 8. I, along with many dedicated logic users > am very disappointed in > Apple's takeover of Logic. I'm a proud Mac owner, but I am not > satisfied with this outcome. > Let's face it, logic is not as robust as it used to be. I'm pretty confident that they will get it working better but I doubt that this happens before Logic 8 or whatever they will call the next release of Logic. Cheers Check out the web page for my band updated 28.6.2005 . New home address : http://jormapen.fidisk.fi
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From: Mike Levon <mike@holyground.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 8:45:24 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Recording with Delay Compensation
Message #207145
This is a reply to #207024.
Jonathan Perl <jon.perl@verizon.net> wrote: > . . . the PDC ALL setting > works by delaying all tracks to match the greatest amount of delay > occurring in your mixer setup; your newly-recorded audio will be > recorded to "late"audio, and then shifted late itself after > recording, along with all other tracks. Just to get this *really* clear in my fuddled head - this applies even when NOT using software monitoring? Am I right in the following assumptions? 1 'old tracks' recorded before PDC : to add new audio keep PDC off? 2 'old tracks' recorded before PDC : when mixing have PDC on? (optional)? 3 'new tracks' recorded with PDC on : to add new audio keep PDC on? 3 'new tracks' recorded with PDC on : when mixing have PDC on? (optional)? If using a plugin on an aux channel (audio track > aux object (submix) > output does this cause latency? Is one cure to insert equivalent plugin(s) on other aux objects? Can they be by-passed in this solution, or do they need to be active but set to have no effect? (e.g compressor with very high threshold). Do all the above affect midi / audio instruments in the same way? Kind regards, Mike. ::: ::: from Mike Levon ::: ::: H O L Y G R O U N D R E C O R D S ::: ::: http://www.holyground.co.uk ::: ::: England's first independent record label
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From: Orren Merton <orren@logic-users.org>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 10:49:50 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Logic Pro 8/7.5
Message #207146
On Dec 31, 2005, at 7:02 AM, "Scott Metzger" <scottmetzger3d@hotmail.com> wrote: > Anyone know when this is coming out? The fourth week of the third month of the second year of the tenth equinox of the seventh dynasty, when the moon glows red and low in the sky and the winds blow icily from the south... > Or perhaps what new features they will > have? Rather than written error messages, it will swear loudly in Slovakian whenever something goes wrong. Also, the entire GUI will be replaced by a single button that says "Create Hit Song." This is in keeping with Soundtrack Pro, which will replace its own GUI with a single button that says "Create Hit Soundtrack." Waveburner Pro's GUI will be replaced by a button that says "Assemble Hit Album." Orren PS--the real answer: not only does nobody know this, but if anyone did, to tell anyone the answer would be a violation of whatever employment or other agreement was signed, leaving them in moral, ethical, legal, and culinary jeopardy.
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From: Orren Merton <orren@logic-users.org>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 11:03:29 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Delay sending Mail to logic-users@yahoogroups.com
Message #207147
This is a reply to #207127.
On Dec 31, 2005, at 7:02 AM, Uro <boba_fett_0@yahoo.com> wrote: > LUGger Big Brother is watching you (with a Luger, no > doubt).... > Why a Luger? Are you assuming all the co-moderators are German, have German guns, or live in Germany? I, for example, live in the United States, and I'm watching you with my crossbow. :) Happy New Year to everyone, Orren
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From: Pete Dako <petedako@sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 10:53:32 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: Ultrabeat vs. Machinedrum
Message #207148
This is a reply to #206971.
<quotes repositioned by admin> Benjamin Wild wrote: > with ultra beat, you have a generic drumsyntheziser, with many > features and a strange interface.. > > I was wondering: how many Luggers really use UB ? > and, if you use it: do you really make your own drumsounds ? Greetings Benjamin, Yes! I use UltraBeat and I totally love it. Once I twigged on how to start multi-channeling UltraBeat's individual parts through Aux channels -- Game Over! Hook, line & sinker! I don't think the interface is strange at all - feels very comfortable -- like the ES series synths and actually a whole lot easier to figure out than many of them -- certainly Sculpture & probably the ES2 as well... I find are quite a lot more confusing when it comes to sound design. I found it very easy to start tweaking the sounds that are in UltraBeat's factory kits... just select a drum sound turn on one of the modules and start twiddling those dials! Making completely new sounds isn't much harder - check the Plugin manual UB tutorials. With the relative ease of loading in samples, (and UB ships with a huge library of them!) I find it strange that people would prefer using the EXS24 for drum parts. Likewise, I am surprised at the number of Logic users who are adding all kinds of 3rd party plug-ins to essentially cover what can already be done with the tools we already have available in LP7. For those who have been at it for a long time, most likely it comes down to force of habit and what people get used to... and in the case of newer users, like myself -- not fully understanding how to use the software. :) best, PETE (http://www3.sympatico.ca/petedako/) ps: for those who haven't seen it yet here's a nifty Apple "QuickTour" video about Ultrabeat: http://www.apple.com/logicpro/quicktours/ultrabeat.html _________________ G5 Dual 2,3GB, OSX 10.4.3,LP7.1.1, Logic Control, RME Fireface 800, Mackie Big Knob, Dynaudio Monitors
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From: Sean McCoy <osr@jeffnet.org>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 10:59:22 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Using Logic Pro with a MOTU MTPAV Please Help!!
Message #207149
This is a reply to #207140.
At 01:22 AM 12/31/2005, you wrote: >The problem I have is when I go to record a new midi track with a differnt >instrument, and one of the other midi tracks are playing back while I >record. It basicly puts the other midi track notes in with the new device >that I am using. Does anyone know how I can fix this? I'm no Environment expert, but it sounds to me like you may have an extra cable in your Environment hardwiring the output of one of your MIDI devices to an input. Take a look there---but be careful!
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From: "misterioso270" <misterioso270@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 at 11:03:40 AM
Subject: [LUG] What audio interface should I buy? (pref. portable)
Message #207150
Hi, I'm going overseas soon to work with a singer. I've got MIDI tracks on my computer, but have no way to record live audio into my G4 Mac laptop, 1 Mghz, 756 RAM. Is there a portable interface you'd recommend - can you list a first choice - what's the best + why, and second choice - what's demo decent + why? And a listing of approx. $$$ appreciated. If you think better to blow $$$ on a slightly larger rack - where more bang for buck, vs. easily portable... then let me know too. Or maybe, I buy a killer portable, and eventually get a rack in the future as well...? Thanks for advice, Happy New Year!
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