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From: Errol Brown <errol@...>
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 at 6:48:20 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: Digi 002, Logic 7.1 and Osx Tiger
Message #201001
This is a reply to #200991.
<quotes trimmed, footers removed by admin> > A coupla years back I traded up from the DIGI 001 and noticed an > enormous improvement in sound quality with the 002r. Then, for a > short time when the 002r wasn't ready for Tiger, I used an M-Audio > Firewire 410 and it sounded incredibly crappy after using the 002. > Say what you will about the cruddy Digi drivers (and they *are* > cruddy) it is a good-sounding interface. > > It's all working well now after the Customer Service (Pro Tools LE > 6.9.2cs2) update. I have not used the Pro Tools LE 6.9.2cs3 update which came out last > week. Have you? > Are you at OS 10.4.2? > -Glenn > Thanks Glenn I will check out the manual to see if there is a way of delaying midi globally and see if that works. I also use the AMT8 which I find great. i also use a Proteus 2000 and a Proteus 1 with midi - they are just two units I like despite the fact that i use a lot of Audio instruments. I have done all the 'cs' updates to date - and like you say i think the Digi 002 is a great sounding device and i still want to use it. Maybe if i used the Digi 002 for Midi that may help... Thanks for your help Ezz
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From: Kondo Tatsuo <kondo2@...>
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 at 8:57:45 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Roland XV 5080 prg change
Message #201002
This is a reply to #200940.
On 2005/08/30, at 10:04, adelakis wrote: > Hi there everybody, gotta great problem with prg change on my > XV-5080, it > seems ther's noway to send correct prg change values to access > expansion > boards E where i have my drum expansion board, and I cannot place it > anywhere elss cause its the only board i have and it must be placed > in slot > E...why didnt apple make a set for xv 5080, you only have old > Roland models > in Enviroment, please Help since I have to set everything manually. > Thanks > Adel Hakki > G5 Dual 2.5 > 5.5 Gig ram > Logic Pro 7.1 Hi, Now the XV is old and discontinued, too... ;-( Logic supports only 14 (?) banks for each multi instrument object, which is not enough for XV with a memory card and several expansion boards. So I'm using 6 different multi instruments for User/Preset Patches Expansion Patches Card Patches User/Preset Rhythm Expansion Rhythm Card Rhythm The drawback of this method is that you have to be careful not to select same MIDI channels for 2 or more of these multi instruments - they are actually the same hardware (=sharing the same MIDI port), so every time you select those tracks the XV alters its sound (if you set the program number in Logic's parameter box). The custom bank messages for the XV and expansion boards are written in XV's (and maybe expansion boards') manual. (If not, contact Roland.) Each expansion board has an unique bank select number, no matter where you install it. So, the object I made for Expansion (Asian instruments, etc) is probably useless for you, sorry. You can set multi instruments' bank messages at Environment>Options>Define Custom Bank Messages Tatsuo
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From: "typicaldullbloke" <jamesjackson711@...>
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 at 11:26:03 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Logic + Kernel Panic!!
Message #201003
This is a reply to #200980.
Steve Nicholson <ssteve@m...> wrote: > Logic can't cause a kernel panic. Those can only be caused by hardware > and drivers. Most likely, there's something up with your audio driver. > Try starting Logic without initializing Core Audio (hold down Ctrl > after starting Logic). Then set Logic to use built-in audio. If that > works, it means you need to find out why your audio driver is causing a > panic. > > -Steve Thanks Steve, I tried starting Logic without the audio and it crashed the same upon starting, even without audio. I looked at the kernel panic log and it goes on about a logitech driver, which I will soon change
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From: "silbramb" <silbramb@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 at 2:34:47 AM
Subject: Logic express 7.1 and Digidesign 002R
Message #201004
Hi. How can I use the 8 digital tracks of the 002R with Audio Logic? I'm not able to see them in the mixer of the software. Tanks
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From: "typicaldullbloke" <jamesjackson711@...>
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 at 11:24:44 PM
Subject: Re: kernel panic
Message #201005
This is a reply to #200990.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Timothy Clarke <tim@s...> wrote: > Try zapping the PRAM (yep - you still need to do that once in awhile in > OS X!) I've had several nasty problems with Peak not wanting to open > lately, and this has solved all of the problems. > > Another thing - get in the habit of running "console" (located in > Utilities) when you are having problems like this. Often this gives > you information that can help narrow down the problem. > > Of course, also get in the habit of repairing permissions, logging out > and back in, and make sure that 20-25% of your drive space is free. > > I also can't say enough good things about Techtool Pro 4. I've heard > Diskwarrior is also a must-have. > > Just some basic OS X troubleshooting tips.... > > Tim Clarke How to zap the PRAM - take the battery out for 15 secs? Or is there a little buttin to press, I forget which thing to do... I run console and the Kernel panic log rants on about an unresolved kernel trap with a Logitech driver "Wed Aug 31 05:07:45 2005 Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 1): 0x700 - Program DAR=0x0000000023BF2004 PC=0x00000000024F97E0 Latest crash info for cpu 1: Exception state (sv=0x3AF34A00) PC=0x024F97E0; MSR=0x00089030; DAR=0x23BF2004; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x2D19DE9C; R1=0x19A9BDC0; XCP=0x0000001C (0x700 - Program) Backtrace: 0x2D19DE84 0x00035148 0x00035028 Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies): com.Logitech.driver.HIDDevices(1.4.1)@0x2d194000 dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily(1.3.6)@0x29d7a000 dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(2.1.5)@0x2c917000 Proceeding back via exception chain: Exception state (sv=0x3AF34A00) previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping... Exception state (sv=0x2C7BD000) PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x00000000; LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000 (Unknown) Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 7.9.0: Wed Mar 30 20:11:17 PST 2005; root:xnu/xnu-517.12.7.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC panic(cpu 1): 0x700 - Program Latest stack backtrace for cpu 1: Backtrace: 0x00083498 0x0008397C 0x0001EDA4 0x00090C38 0x0009402C Proceeding back via exception chain: Exception state (sv=0x3AF34A00) PC=0x024F97E0; MSR=0x00089030; DAR=0x23BF2004; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x2D19DE9C; R1=0x19A9BDC0; XCP=0x0000001C (0x700 - Program) Backtrace: 0x2D19DE84 0x00035148 0x00035028 Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies): com.Logitech.driver.HIDDevices(1.4.1)@0x2d194000 dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily(1.3.6)@0x29d7a000 dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(2.1.5)@0x2c917000 Exception state (sv=0x2C7BD000) PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x00000000; LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000 (Unknown) Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 7.9.0: Wed Mar 30 20:11:17 PST 2005; root:xnu/xnu-517.12.7.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC" So I'll find new drivers for that, although I can't see how a mouse or webcam affects Logic.... Thanks for the help
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From: Ray Michel <ettubaby@...>
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 at 8:52:36 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Logic Pro 7 "Academic"
Message #201006
This is a reply to #200103.
> On Aug 8, 2005, at 3:40 PM, Henry Bourne wrote: > >> Yes, it could also be that the upgrade paths are > >> generally more expensive for the academic > >> purchases. > > > > Hmm that is something I should have mentioned... > > My upgrade from 6 to 7 was the same price as usual. I just saw this, think about it, the license are not the same. What happen between 6 and 7 will not occur again. you be able to upgrade to LP 8. I don't see alot of people offering acad upgrades. This is where Apple can get you. Get an old logic on ebay, its the way to go.
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From: Jon Lederman <jon2718@...>
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 at 8:55:41 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Excellent NYCity LUG Meeting Aug 23rd
Message #201007
This is a reply to #200994.
>> our next meeting is Tuesday, October 25th, >> 6:30 PM at the Apple Store Soho On 8/30/05 6:42 PM, "Eli Krantzberg" <elik@...> wrote: > Ever thought about maybe doing a Podcast of it?? I think you'd have > pretty large audience right here! Sounds nice. Any in california also?
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From: "Logic User Group" <logic@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 at 3:38:49 AM
Subject: [LUG] Auxes or not?
Message #201008
Hi all, When using an outboard reverb-unit (compressor or something else) do you run the signal through it and record the new processed audio... or do you prefer putting in an aux send-return loop and stay within Logic? Thanks! Irving.
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From: "geetar67" <geetar67@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 at 6:00:29 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: How do I split drumkit elements up so that each one has its own fader,
Message #201009
This is a reply to #200966.
> > it's sad, but logic express has no edit-button - there seems to be no > > mute in matrixeditor and some other useful/basic functions (or the > > for them keycomands) are removed.. -> strange policy.. if you like, > > mail me a list of your desired output settings and I'll (try to) make > > them for you. > > Thanks for the very generous offer, but I think for now I'll try to concentrate on working > with what I've got. I'm still on LA 6.3.1 from the Big Box, but in it there's a main menu selection under (I think) Audio called EXS24 Instrument Editor. Selecting it will bring up an Open dialog box. Navigate to the .exs file you want to edit and open it. You get the Editor window that Peter was talking about, where you can assign different EXS outputs to the instrument groups as you want. I don't have GarageBand though, so I don't know if this will work with its instrument files. YMMV. However, I haven't been able to get this to work for me (all drums still come through main outputs), although I have confirmed in earlier postings that this is indeed the correct method. Arch
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From: Doug Slick <dslick@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 at 6:43:40 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: kernel panic
Message #201010
This is a reply to #201005.
> >How to zap the PRAM - take the battery out for 15 secs? Or is there >a little buttin to press, >I forget which thing to do... Hold down <Control, Option, "P" & "R"> on boot. Let the chime go several times. You may have some funny things reset after you do this. Clock, printer options, screen resolution, etc. Just put 'em back where you want 'em and all will be as before. -- Doug
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From: Alain BERTHE <Alain.Berthe1@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 at 8:48:55 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: How do I split drumkit elements up so that each one has its own fader,
Message #201011
This is a reply to #201009.
I'm still on LA 6.3.1 from the Big Box, but in it there's a main menu selection under (I think) Audio called EXS24 Instrument Editor. Selecting it will bring up an Open dialog box. Navigate to the .assignatassignate file you want to edit and open it. You get the Editor window that Peter was talking about, where you can assign different EXS outputs to the instrument groups as you want. I don't have Garage-Band though, so I don't know if this will work with its instrument files. YMMV. However, I haven't been able to get this to work for me (all drums still come through main outputs), although I have confirmed in earlier postings that this is indeed the correct method. Arch Well, the 1st thing to understand (took me a while too,I want to thank Peter Ostry for his last post on the subject)) is that a "Multi Instrument" needs multiple "Aux Out". So, once you've selected your EXS inst as "Multi" (a drum kit I bet!!..),go into the Environment (Audio layer) and create as many Aux Out you need (menu "new"->select Audio Object -> double click it -> go into its parameter window -> select Cha. to Aux "x"). You've now built the sub-mixer that the Multi Inst requested. THEN you can open the EXS's edit window and the big work (pain in the ass!) can start (if somebody knows a short cut!?). You'll have to assign each zone to its aux channel. For this,my tip would be to select (click-shift) first all zones which will go to one aux,(they will appear open in the below window),so you'll just have to check the EXS Output check box and assign the correct aux out . After that,you should be done,you'll just have to set up the new sub-mixer to your taste. Good luck, Alain
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From: "schranidanz" <schranz@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 at 9:19:57 AM
Subject: Logic 7.1 (re-)recording problems with existing songs
Message #201012
Dear all here's the problem: i make a new song, i work with it, edit all the different tracks, record some lines (midi, audio, etc) no problem at all. (i'm able to play and hear all the instruments, soundmodules etc) but after working with that song for couple of days, suddenly i'm not able to make new recordings within that song. i'm still able to listen to the tracks etx. but if i try to redo some parts and record new stuff... it won't work! even to play and hear my instruments is not possible. (at that point i opened a new song, and everything was fine. in the fresh song i could play and hear all my instruments) it seems to me, that suddenly the midi-data doesn't get into logic. has anyone heard of similar problems? for any hints, suggestions, help - thank you daniel
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From: Art Gillespie <agillesp@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 at 10:34:05 AM
Subject: [LUG] Re: How do I split drumkit elements up so that each one has its own fader, etc?
Message #201013
This is a reply to #200966.
> > it's sad, but logic express has no edit-button - there seems to be no > > mute in matrixeditor and some other useful/basic functions (or the > > for them keycomands) are removed.. -> strange policy.. if you like, > > mail me a list of your desired output settings and I'll (try to) make > > them for you. > > Thanks for the very generous offer, but I think for now I'll try to concentrate on working > with what I've got. Once you've split the midi notes, just create a new audio instrument with another EXSP and the same patch loaded for each drum you want individual control over. Then just route those split tracks to their own EXSP instance. This is wasteful of RAM, but will work fine.
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From: "MICHAEL K" <michaelk_xsx@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 at 10:48:54 AM
Subject: Big Jumper
Message #201014
Hi All.. I'm an OS9 mainstay who's finally given into Tiger and made a big jump from all-time fave Logic version 3.5 (!!) to Express 7.1 and am wondering where the key commands for 'Split Audio at SPL' and 'Split by Locators' are? Also trying to catch up on whether VST plug-ins are going to be supported or have been patched? Appreciate any help offered. Michael
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From: Peter Ostry <po@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 at 11:32:56 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Big Jumper
Message #201015
This is a reply to #201014.
On 31.08.2005, at 17:48, MICHAEL K wrote: > I'm an OS9 mainstay who's finally given into Tiger and made a big jump > from all-time fave Logic version 3.5 (!!) to Express 7.1 and am > wondering where the key commands for 'Split Audio at SPL' and 'Split > by Locators' are? I don't know Express. Has it a Key Commands window? Then open it (usually with [alt]K) and type "split" or "spl" in the upper right search field. That should show you the shortcut and you can assign or change it there. > Also trying to catch up on whether VST plug-ins are going to be > supported or have been patched? No more VST today. Best to buy the VST-AU wrapper from FXpansion ($99), a program which makes virtually all VST's playable. It is a proven tool. Another way would be to run a second audio application which takes VST's and communicate over WormHole for example. But that is far more complicated and adds latency. ___ Peter Ostry
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From: "Bernard Tan" <bernard@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 at 11:06:33 AM
Subject: M-audio Ozonic + a Mac Powerbook G4
Message #201016
This is a reply to #200957.
Hi, I need advise. I am planning to upgrade my entire rig to a simple M-Audio Ozonic keyboard & a Mac Powerbook G4. I will probably use a regular sound module midi to Ozonic. Anyone with this setup can advise me on any negative tech issue? Will latency be a problem with tis kind of setup? Cheers! Flame current System G4 sawtooth 1gb ram with stealth serial port on OS 9.2.2 Logic PRO 6 MTP-AV serial port interface D70, k2vx, AN200, TX802, MKS80, K4r & TX81Z 01V digital mixer
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From: Paul Mazzolini <pm@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 at 11:30:36 AM
Subject: Re: Logic 7.1 (re-)recording problems with existing songs
Message #201017
This is a reply to #201012.
> i make a new song, i work with it, edit all the different tracks, > record some lines (midi, audio, etc) no problem at all. (i'm able > to play and hear all the instruments, soundmodules etc) but after working with > that song for couple of days, suddenly i'm not able to make new recordings within that > song. i'm still able to listen to the tracks etx. but if i try to redo some parts > and record new stuff... it won't work! even to play and hear my instruments is not > possible. > > (at that point i opened a new song, and everything was fine. in the > fresh song i could play and hear all my instruments) > > it seems to me, that suddenly the midi-data doesn't get into logic. > > has anyone heard of similar problems? I built a new autoload since 7.1 and solved some of these issues ... Good luck Paul Mazzolini MD pm@... http://www.softworks.it
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From: "emergencyxmusic" <emergencyxmusic@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 at 11:09:47 AM
Subject: Need help for newbie Logic user fast!
Message #201018
Our set up is a Motu 828 MK II sound card with an external firewire hard drive plugged into it and the MOTU is plugged into the computer through an other firewire cable. Just today after getting set we turned on our computer and started up logic express 7 and tried playing a song. With in a few seconds we recieved an error that said "Error while trying to syncronize Audio and Midi", and some strange high pitch noises started coming out of our moniters, but the channal strips showed that the song was playing normally, besides for this Error. We have recieved this once before and after restarting the computer the problem went away. We have restarted 4 times already and shut of our MOTU with the computer still on after dragging the hard drive to the trash about 5 times. I tried looking in the some of the preferences and just can't find out what is going on. Can someone please help us out soon. We are recording a CD and have dont everything except for Vocals, and we were planning to finish those with in the next couple days. This CD has already been set back by months before and we can't afford an other set back. Please help us right away. Thank you. Ben
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From: William Haubrich <wphaub@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 at 11:12:55 AM
Subject: MIDI CONTROL CHANGE TO EXR-3
Message #201019
Dear Logicians, Logic Pro 6.4.3 Roland JV2080 Roland Kybd Exr-3 I have written a trio for live instruments (2 sax) and Synth musician, who will be using his Exr-3 keyboard. He will both PERFORM (pads) and TRIGGER midi sequences performances (one per movement). Each sequence performance will contain 3 or 4 patches. I am attempting to import midi sequences composed in Logic (and Jv 2080) to the Exr-3. The Exr has a usb cable, which enables me to see its song files in a folder within a removable drive icon showing on my Mac desktop. My problem: In Logic, I seem only able to create a general-midi control change message at the beginning of each sequence (arrange page > view > hyperdraw > program change). I need to send the correct control change messages (msb/lsb?) to select the correct banks as per the exr's manual in order for the desired exr-3 patch to be chosen. Example: the desired exr-3 patches are listed in the exr manual as: Log Drum 50 13 24 2 Kalimba 436 109 0 2 Standard Drum 1 PC 1 (CC32-2) I'm baffled. :-[ Please help--hope I expressed this clearly! Thanks in advance, -- WILLIAM HAUBRICH HAUBRICH MUSIC HAUBRICHMUSIC@...
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From: Huud@...
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 at 12:20:08 PM
Subject: Re: Audio to video sync dropping in and out
Message #201020
> I posted a question earlier that I didn't get any respons to. Are none of > you experiencing dodgy video to audio sync? My video is very often several frames off. I just > have to stop the sequencer and start again to fix it but it is getting to be extremely annoying. > > Anybody? > > I'm running L7.1, OS10.3.9, Dual 2 GHz G5, 2,5 Gb RAM. The video format is > Motion JPG A, 768x576, millions, 25 fps, 9209 kbits/sec. > > The glitch appears even when running just 1 (!) audio track so I'd be > surprised if it is due to cpu overload, hehe. Ask yourself if you have more than ONE song open using that same movie or ANOTHER movie. This ALWAYS happens to me when I do that. Just close the other other songs and your glitches should dissapear. -Terry Michael Huud www.music4TheMovies.com
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From: "gilbomartin" <gilbo@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 at 12:33:43 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Changing language...
Message #201021
This is a reply to #200976.
Thank you very much Frederic. Gilbo
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From: Hans Hafner <hanshafner@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 at 12:38:00 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Big Jumper
Message #201022
This is a reply to #201014.
At 15:48 Uhr +0000 31.08.2005, MICHAEL K wrote: >I'm an OS9 mainstay who's finally given into Tiger and made a big jump >from all-time fave Logic version 3.5 (!!) to Express 7.1 and am >wondering where the key commands for 'Split Audio at SPL' and 'Split >by Locators' are? I'm sorry to disappoint you but a lot of the key commands aren't in Express. That's part of why it's Express and not the full pro version. Sorry. Cheers Hans
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From: "gilbomartin" <gilbo@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 at 12:31:56 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Changing language...
Message #201023
This is a reply to #200998.
Thanks a lot Tatsuo. Gilbo
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From: "Erick Grau" <erick_grau@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 at 12:53:18 PM
Subject: RE: [LUG] Need help for newbie Logic user fast!
Message #201024
This is a reply to #201018.
Do you have it on a UPS or electricity conditioner? Unplugged Switch the voltage meter back and forth. Then plug back in. Try that. Erick
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From: "subginge" <ginge@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 at 2:39:13 PM
Subject: Re: Audio to video sync dropping in and out
Message #201025
This is a reply to #201020.
> Ask yourself if you have more than ONE song open using that same movie or > ANOTHER movie. This ALWAYS happens to me when I do that. Just close the other > other songs and your glitches should dissapear. > > -Terry Michael Huud > www.music4TheMovies.com That's it I think. Thanks a lot! But didn't I read somewhere that they had gone out of their way to removing bugs assosiated with having several songs open simultaneously? Add to this sync glitch the fact that exs intruments in the top-most song is automatically copied down to exs instruments situated on the same instrument slots of songs in the back (was that understandable?) and it seems almost useless. Rant rant. A fix of these bugs is nr 1 on my wishlist. Thanks a lot Terry! Ginge
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