On 05/3/31 8:17 AM, "Maurits van de Kamp" <maurits@...> wrote: > To put it in a safer way: if there is no (audible!) difference in the > waveforms (proven by listening to cancellation), but nontheless a difference > is perceived when listening to the individual sounds, it's irrational to say > the cause is not psychological (which doesn't make the difference in > perception any less real though). Maybe the logical extension of the argument is that there is no point using audio sequencers to edit wave forms because there is no necessary correspondence between the waveform and the sound. It will either change on its own if you listen to it often enough, and even if you change it, the sound might remain the same.

Hello, Can anyone help? I'm trying to get Orange Vocoder to work with live vocals. I put the vocoder as an audio instrument. For vocals, I created a new audio object, put the channel as 'input' and routed this to bus 1. The problem seems to be, however, that I can't select a bus channel for the side chain of the vocoder. After playing around a bit, I realised that this was true for all my VST instruments (I haven't used any in this way before). I can select buses as side chains for other effects, however, just not audio instruments. Is there some setting I can change to get audio instruments to receive buses as side chains, or is this a problem with my version of logic? I'm using Logic Platinum 5.1 on windows XP. Perhaps there's an update or something I should get..? Thanks for reading. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Nick

> All, Is there an easy way to do a pr-pr-pr-pre-echo on vocals? The ones > that are sort of a ramp up to the beginning of the vocal line? TIA. > JoeF Easy, and way more authentic-sounding than any reverse reverb effect: Reverse the audio (so it plays backwards). Run through your choice of delay/verb/etc. Bounce the wet signal to disk and bring back in on its own track. Reverse the audio again (so it plays properly again.) Position the reversed wet track as desired relative to the dry normal track. Brian :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Logic Audio Pro 7.0.1 PowerMac G4 933MHz OS X 10.3.8 1 GB RAM MOTU 828mkII - driver v1.09 - CueMix v1.4

> By default plug-ins are opened in floating windows. To open a plug-in > in a normal window, open it holding the option key. You mean apple-option. Option-clicking toggles the bypass. Brian :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Logic Audio Pro 7.0.1 PowerMac G4 933MHz OS X 10.3.8 1 GB RAM MOTU 828mkII - driver v1.09 - CueMix v1.4

Play back happens fine with the outputs designated on the audio objects. when I use the key commands scrub forward or scrub backwards, no sound is heard on any output. Does any body know what gives here Thanks Naim

--- upandemagic <upandemagic@...> wrote: > Please help. I recently purchased a Korg Triton Le > keyboard and I have no idea how to get > this board to work with Logic 7. I know what to do > inside of Logic 7 but I have no clue > what to do inside the Triton Le to get the two to > communicate. I will use SoundDiver to > get all the names, patches, etc. I just need > someone to please tell me what settings I need > to change in the Triton LE to get it to communicate > with Logic as I have no idea and I don't > want to spend a week reading all the Triton's > manuals to figure it out. Assume I am in 1st > grade and provide me with as many details as > possible. Thank You. I have a Triton but I don't use it to record because I've migrated to using softsynths. Therefore, i can't offer you specific advice. But in case you're interested, i saw a brief article in the march EQ magazine, titled "Midi Troubleshooting' which gives basic info on using the Triton LE with Daws. Good luck, JP

I am tearing out my hair. Three times I contacted NI about my problem with Guitar Rig.No help there. No matter what function I click on all I get is Rig control "hide and show". I can't get it to work in TDM. It works fine in Pro tools and as an FX in the instrument tracks. It even works in DTDM but since I'm not using Core Audio that makes it pretty much useless. Sure I could work without it and use it later as an effect but I really want to start with the sound I end up with. (Inspiration and all that) I have posted this before and it was suggested I don't use the tuner. I can't even get rid of the tuner it just hides and shows the Rig control.It worked fine in 6, but since 7.1 no go. Help! Jake G5 dual OS10 .8 Logic 7.1

On Mar 30, 2005, at 7:46 PM, Eric Lee wrote: > > > I've just recently started using CueMix (since Logic 7 introduces more > delay) and it's fine except my recorded vocal lines (done while > monitoring through CueMix) seem delayed about 1/32. I wasn't *that* > drunk. > > I've done the John Pitcairn method (thank you!) of setting record delay > and I'm not sure if additional adjustments are needed for CueMix. > Oh hell, I just adjusted the record delay with each new take, setting it by ear and it's fine. Good enough. Eric -64 with MOTU 2408 and CueMix various plugs including some on the track used for recording.

On 05-03-31, at 21:53, Brian Pylant wrote: > > >> By default plug-ins are opened in floating windows. To open a plug-in >> in a normal window, open it holding the option key. > > You mean apple-option. Option-clicking toggles the bypass. > > Apple-Option it is. It works in Logic Express. Thanks everyone! Claude

> Maybe the logical extension of the argument is that there is no point using > audio sequencers to edit wave forms because there is no necessary > correspondence between the waveform and the sound. It will either change > on its own if you listen to it often enough, and even if you change it, the > sound might remain the same. That's a hars way of putting it, but haven't we all noticed how our (customers') opinions change overnight on one and the same mix? :o) Sound engineering is a matter of controlling the hearing psychology, but we're simply not in 100% control (like we're not in 100% control of the resulting analog signal either as it depends on the playback equipment). Maurits.

> Play back happens fine with the outputs designated on the audio > objects. when I use the key commands scrub forward or scrub backwards, > no sound is heard on any output. Scrubbing only plays back when you're on play+pause. (At least that's how it works with my shuttle, which I think uses the same commands). Maurits.

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On Mar 31, 2005, at 8:10 PM, njmowatt wrote: > > > > Play back happens fine with the outputs designated on the audio > objects. when I use the key commands scrub forward or scrub backwards, > no sound is heard on any output. > > Does any body know what gives here > > Thanks > Naim I think your hardware has to support the scrub function. what are you using?

On 01/04/2005, at 9:44 AM, John Pitcairn wrote: > Well, I don't know about that. The difference I hear is that summing > in TotalMix sounds somewhat more open & transparent, with a > better-defined stereo image. It's not a massive difference, ie nothing > like the difference in going from 16- to 24-bit, or even from > Multiface to Fireface converter quality, but it's enough that I'd > think it worth setting up and using for the final master on some > material. I sum in my Multiface all the time so obviously I agree with John on this. Recently I had a whole bunch of tracks all going to Logic's outs 1 & 2 and where those outputs come up in Totalmix I was occasionally peaking in the red. When I split those tracks in Logic across 4 or 5 stereo pairs there was no more peaks on any of the logic outs in Totalmix any more. That shows a potential benefit of summing in TM right there. I also agree with John that the difference between Logic and TM summing is not huge but it is clearly improved to my ears. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Paul Najar Jaminajar Music Production www.jaminajar.com

On 01/04/2005, at 7:32 AM, Gio wrote: > RME Fireface or RME Multi face (No mic Pre's though) > Ciao > Gio The Multiface only has one adat in & out along with 8 analog IO and SPDIF. The Fireface is the only out of the Box solution that has what you specify. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Paul Najar Jaminajar Music Production www.jaminajar.com

Is there a way to keep Logic 6.4.2 running on a OS 9 partition from searching my OS X partition when it tries to match samples to EXS instruments? I'm considering reinstalling the OS X partition using the UFS filesystem since I know OS 9 can't read that, but am hoping for an easier, more elegant solution.

hi friends I have purchased Logic Pro 7 and using it with Tascam US-122. Every time I try to play a song in Logic I get this error. "Error while trying to synchronize audio and midi." I have PowerMac G4 with processor 1.25 GHz OS 10.3.8 768 MB DDR SDRAM. Also I do not get any output (sound) from my audio interface. Please help me to sort this problem out. Thanks and God bless Salamat Khokhar

At 10:20 Uhr +0200 31.03.2005, Logic User Group wrote: >I want to create a slowing down sound at the end of my mix. Like producer >Timbaland did on the Justin Timberlake song "Cry me a river". At the end >of the song he sings a few words and the keep on repeating but slower and >slower (almost like some sort of pitchshifter). How can I create this >effect on multiple audiotracks (before I bounce to disk). Is it indeed >pitchshifting or something else??? Well, there are a couple of options: Live in Rewire mode lets you do this. Or there is a plug-in out there called "Speedster" which also does this. However that developer now was involved in www.plasq.com Musolomo which has the same technology but I think it works a little better. Only that in this case you have to set it up a little differently. Good luck Hans

> I'm considering reinstalling the OS X partition using the UFS > filesystem since I know OS 9 can't read that, but am hoping for an > easier, more elegant solution. You don't want to do that anyway, most applications (most likely including Logic) will not work properly on UFS since it lacks a resource fork. It's suitable for server stuff only. However you can choose not to install an OS9 driver on your (normal HFS+) OSX partition, and then OS9 can't read it either. Maurits.

On Mar 31, 2005, at 6:06 PM, Eli Krantzberg wrote: > The second thing; L7 doesn't seem to be happy when I have to open many > songs during a session. Sure enough after about the seventh or eighth > song, Logic crashes upon trying to open subsequent songs. When I > restart logic, the count restarts again, but it just won't open beyond > a certain number of songs. And it doesn't matter wether they are opened > via double clicking in the Finder, or by navigating through the "open" > hierarchy. > I would suspect that this is more of a ram issue, meaning loading all the song data from one song to the other, would require a huge virtual ram disc... This issue of "ram to VR" I could easily see causing crashes. How many exs's or other sampler type instruments per song, and how much ram are they all asking for? George ________________________________________________________ www.utopiaparkwaymusic.com Mac AND PC: The only way to fly 8-}

On Mar 31, 2005, at 2:39 PM, mikkelfregerslev wrote: > Hey can anybody help out here. Im having troubles when Im playing midi > tracks. > My setup: > Logic Platinium 5.5.0 > Lots of plugins > Soundcard: Audiophile 2496 > I tried to set my buffer size up, but it didnt solve the problem. > Anybody > Thanks > Mikkel Are you sure this isn't a digital clock issue then? Who is the digital master on your system? More than one digital source at once? George ________________________________________________________ www.utopiaparkwaymusic.com Mac AND PC: The only way to fly 8-}

On Mar 31, 2005, at 2:06 PM, John Pitcairn wrote: > RME uses 40-bit FIXED POINT math for > summing, ie precision depends on actual sample value. The precision is > greater than 32-bit float down to -96dBFS (low 24 bits used, high 16 > bits zeroed), less than 32-bit float below that. > > In other words, there's mathematical room for the two summing > processes to produce different results. > > John Pitcairn > John, You have way too much time on your hands ;-) George ________________________________________________________ www.utopiaparkwaymusic.com Mac AND PC: The only way to fly 8-}

Can you explain what you mean here? If you´re using DTDM you SHOULD NOT use Core Audio at the same time. DTDM is a "native" mixer abstractum that feeds into TDM via ESB. Peter --- http://www.merlinsound.de jake holmes wrote: > It even works in DTDM but since I'm not using Core Audio that makes it > pretty much useless.

Apr 1, 2005 kl. 9:00 skrev Paul Najar: > I sum in my Multiface all the time so obviously I agree with John on > this. > > Recently I had a whole bunch of tracks all going to Logic's outs 1 & 2 > and where those outputs come up in Totalmix I was occasionally peaking > in the red. When I split those tracks in Logic across 4 or 5 stereo > pairs there was no more peaks on any of the logic outs in Totalmix any > more. That shows a potential benefit of summing in TM right there. I > also agree with John that the difference between Logic and TM summing > is not huge but it is clearly improved to my ears. This is my experience as well, using Multiface and TotalMix. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen --- http://www.looproom.com (international) http://www.boysen.se (Swedish site) http://www.cdbaby.com/perboysen

On 31 Mar 2005, at 17:34, Bishop Salamat Khokhar wrote: > Is there any Tascam US-122 user with Logic Pro 7 or PowerMac G4 ? > I am having trouble running it. Please help me configure or setup > this stuff. > Please respond I'm going to try and set one up today so I'll get back to you later! best jonboy