From: John <realkuhl@...> >If you can upgrade your power in your studio, DO IT !! I have to agree, FWIW. It's also not particularly expensive. If I remember right (this was after the '94 earthquake) the circuit I had run into here cost about $400. Hint: if you have 4-outlet plates installed, make three of them switched and one of them on all the time. That will allow you to turn your studio on with one switch but keep other things on all the time. -- Nick Batzdorf 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

On 1/27/05 9:38 PM, "logic-users@yahoogroups.com" <logic-users@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > What is involved in this? I upgraded my service recently, but just to > higher amperage. I have my studio on a couple of separate AC lines, but > it's still coming from the same telephone pole as the rest of the house. > Does there have to be something special in the circuit to get clean > electricity, some kind of conditioner or something? Everything is on UPS, > but I'm not sure the UPS conditions the current in any way. I think it just > keeps the voltage steady....or is that what is meant by "clean"? > > James James, It sounds like you are in pretty good shape ;D Clean simply means that nothing but your studio gear is on this particular circuit breaker. It sounds like that is the case with you - higher amperage is very good, too. In fact, if you have not already - install the red "Hospital" sized wall power sockets and have a studio electrician (or yourself if you are knowledgeable in these things) make studio quality "extension cords" - these cords have one of the "1" shaped plugs turned sideways "-" and can carry a much stronger amp load than a regular power extension cord. Doing this will give your studio will create a "super highway" with 300 lanes vs a 2-Way freeway built in the 1950's with stop signs and flashing caution lights kind of studio electricity.......... ;D -John Lehmkuhl

On Jan 28, 2005, at 2:09 AM, f-erenc szabo wrote: > By the way, the difference in stability to my studio was obvious > the moment I bought the thing (about Canadian$800 over a decade > ago). Well, specifically, not when I bought it, but when I plugged > everything into it. You'll need to do that. > So which model did you get. Are they still in the same price range. The ones I have been looking at in that price range seem to be kind of either or sorts of things either UPS or Power conditioning.

>> I have a hand built power amplifier. It's a work of art (Pacific Innovative >> Electronics) that when plugged into standard power sounds totally different >> than when going thru the clean AC current. Even the electrician that >> installed the circuits could hear the difference that clean electricity >> makes. > > Honestly, I find "clean electricity" rather esoteric when we talk about > digital equipment. Next time you will tell us, that Sculpture sounds > better with electricity from the Hoover-barrage than driven by > wind-generator-power from Amsterdam :-) 1st remember that thing you plug your mic preamp into is an *analog* to digital converter and the signal that comes out the other end goes through a digital to *analog* convertor so there heap plenty of stuff going on in the analog domain to be concerned about. Second remember that we are talking about actually four separate concerns all of which are important to the analog as well as digital side of your studio. 1. Uninterruptible power source (UPS): self explanatory, if the power goes down you get a little grace period to save and shut down in a more controlled manner not *as* important for analog stuff as for your computer but not irrelevant either. 2. surge and sag protection i.e. is your equipment always getting the exact voltage it was designed to use and is it protected from spikes. Important for both analog and digital equipment. 3. sinusoidal waveform. i.e. is the AC in the form of a nice sine wave and free of noise, this is *very* important for keeping the noise in analog equipment down and some say it matters to digital circuits as well. 4. proper grounding. Obviously important and easier to achieve if everything drawing from a single central power source that will be the center of the star.

I would also suggest that you retain the original takes somewhere in case you need to change something. Cheers Clive Young

There's a new defragger called (you guessed it) iDefrag, which came out recently. I was skeptical, too, although I occasionally make CD and DVD images which need defragging, so I went for it. Tried it on my hard disk, and it made a small difference, at least in startup time. But your mileage may vary. For disk cloners, check out SuperDuper, which I've been using religiously. It makes a perfect, bootable clone on another volume, is a bazillion times faster than Carbon Copy Cloner, can be automated, etc. jb

<quotes repositioned and trimmed, subject header changed by admin > > I have an M-audio firewire 410 hooked up to the G5 as well as a > > Gina 3G and Motu 828. Before doing the complete reinstall, I tried > > reinstalling the drivers for the firewire 410. Everything came back > > and works fine. HTH. > I see that you have three audio cards, one of which I may one day buy. Is the Gina a lot better than the FW410? I hear a lot of persons saying is ok but do not sound satified. And what the Motu? Is it worth the price difference? Fred

On Jan 27, 2005, at 23:39, heidi_kurovec wrote: > > I can't bounce down any midi tracks i have created(with my other real > audio tracks) ...is there a way, within Logic(logic 5 plat.), to > convert my midi tracks to real,usable,bounceable audio?? I create > drum tracks within hyperedit with Gm kit, and i can't bounce down any > of it. I would certainly appreciate the help. Connect (physically, with cables) the GM Kit sound modules audio output to the computers audio input. Solo the midi track in Logic. Record enable an audio track. Press "recording". Press "stop". Enjoy. If you are using some sounds built into the computer's OS you can use the same method. Just connect the output to the input of the sound card. > On a side not, i am getting alot of PC-AV overload errors...any > suggestions on fixing that. I am running win 98se,, and logic is the > only program i use on the machine. Thanks for your help. This article holds some answers for you: http://www.soniccontrol.com/tech/midi/articles/feature/dawtweaking.shtml Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen --- http://www.looproom.com (international) http://www.boysen.se (Swedish site) http://www.cdbaby.com/perboysen

> >> I have a very persistent and vexing problem with computer hash > >> coming out of my firewire interfaces that I would like to resolve > >> before I lose my mind. > > Unfortunately, that is a G5 issue, I believe. No way around > > that. If it's what I think it is (computer generated noise when > > certain actions are taken). > > Orren --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Ed Billeaud <edva@e...> wrote: > Hi Orren, > I'm planning to buy a G5 when Tiger is released. Or, at least I > was..... My questions are, which model is proven to work best with > Logic, fewest bugs/problems/issues, and, now, do they all have this > hash? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Hi, I work with both PT (6.4) and Logic (7.0.1) on a 1,8 dual G5/DIGI002. With Logic everything is rel. fine (apart from the occasional crash-out-of-nowhere of course) and silent, but when running PT a funny thing happens: I get this nasty high-frequency buzzing sound. When I click-hold a scrollbar it's gone, when I release the mouse it's back. Really annoying, if you got any HF-sensitivity left.. Can't provide you with an explanation but just wanted to let you know. I'm not even sure if it's the G5 or the DIGI002 that produces the buzz. regards, Anne Soldaat

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To me it's more than obvious that something such as "clean electricity" is related to a good sounding studio environment. I am by no means an expert at all, also, I won't be able to explain anything in english, but I'm sure you will all now this: Neighbour turns on hoover or hair dryer and all of a sudden your TV picture is getting blurried. And that is with them being connected through quite a different circuit (independent fuses and whatever). Of course, this usually only happens with rather old circuits, but I still see it happening here and there. Regading digital technology: I am not sure how much this relates to computer technology as well (I think it might not), but back in 92 I've been in the US with some band, playing a few gigs. Now, the keyboarder had quite some tempo related things going on on his Ensoniqs (which he took with him) - and all of a sudden they weren't doing properly anymore. Apparently all the tempo based effects related to the Hz number the power was coming in at. They have been programmed over here in germany at 50Hz, in the US however 60Hz are standard. As said, whether this is still true for digital devices (I'd think that meanwhile all of them should run at their own clock or relate to the sample rate, which should be pretty much more exact too) I don't know, but it defenitely was back then. - Sascha

On Jan 28, 2005, at 9:46, asoldaat wrote: > Hi, > I work with both PT (6.4) and Logic (7.0.1) on a 1,8 dual G5/DIGI002. > With Logic everything is rel. fine (apart from the occasional > crash-out-of-nowhere of course) and silent, but when running PT a funny > thing happens: I get this nasty high-frequency buzzing sound. Apple's secret "ProTools Killer" ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen --- http://www.looproom.com (international) http://www.boysen.se (Swedish site) http://www.cdbaby.com/perboysen

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Per Boysen <per@b...> wrote: > If I create an empty midi region on > that track the freeze will play back all eight RMX parts. This is an easy workaround, thank you very much, Per! Peter

> To me it's more than obvious that something such as "clean electricity" is > related to a good sounding studio environment. On the analogue side, most certainly. And I don't think there's any studio that is completely without analogue side. :o) > Regading digital technology: I am not sure how much this relates to > computer technology as well (I think it might not), Not directly influencing the sound quality, but at the start of this thread the question was whether "unclean" power could influence a computer's _stability_, and sure enough it can. However, the power has to be extremely bad to really have an influence; after passing the first transformer the power will be stabilised to the voltage required by the ICs inside the computer and it would take a pretty big dip on the 130/230V side to have an influence on that, but pretty big dips do occur. However, I actually read stories from people who believe that the quality of the AC cable (the CABLE!) of their computer, has an influence on the sound quality(!) of the audio CDs they produce. This is of course rediculous. :o) Maurits.

On 28.01.2005, at 07:51, dennis gunn wrote: > 2. surge and sag protection i.e. is your equipment always getting the > exact voltage it was designed to use and is it protected from spikes. > Important for both analog and digital equipment. > > 3. sinusoidal waveform. i.e. is the AC in the form of a nice sine wave > and free of noise, this is *very* important for keeping the noise in > analog equipment down and some say it matters to digital circuits as > well. > > 4. proper grounding. Obviously important and easier to achieve if > everything drawing from a single central power source that will be the > center of the star. Now I got it, thanks. Does not sound esoteric anymore. In my present environment I don't have to care much about exact voltage, spikes and grounding. But noise-free waveform could be important i.e. for my two FatMan compressors. I find them a bit noisy, TLA Audio claims (in the manual) that they are not and have very good internal power adapters too. Three questions if you don't mind to offer some education here: Audio interfaces come often with cheap external powersupplies and the manufacturers do not suggest to use a better one. They just insist to use "their" box but most of them are similar constructions. Improper guidance? Second, and more DAW-related: Do we have to expect that noisy AC waveforms *can* find their way through the power supply of a Mac and further, so they have a chance to affect the sound of Logics softsynths for example? Last one: disconnecting the USP from the outside circuit and running on batteries would allow A/B hearing, right? Peter Ostry

The security update killed the midi inputs/drivers or whatever, Logic 7 could not receive any midi input from my keyboards (MicroKorg and Evolution 249c2) any more. Reinstalling the fireface drivers had no effect; I had to install the combe update 10.3.7 (97MB) to get it working again. Thanks a lot, Apple. Peter (fireface 800, 17" powerbook 1GHz/1GB)

> That is a good tip, to my ear, apple loops usually sound > better, but it does depend on the material. I haven't used Apple Loops yet myself. The one issue that would be problematic for me, is that the only thing I use audio tracks for is vocals. The 8 bar limit might turn out to be a problem although I suppose I could break a longer region into two or more parts. I'll have to try them out one of these days. Kamm

Howdy guys, Just my two cents worth. This can all be reflected in you cable quality & layout. Magnetic interference, unbalanced lines, cable crosstalk, hum etc. In broadcast land usually audio, video & lighting all run on separate power circuits. Lighting is notorious for introducing hum in audio & video signals so studio lighting plugged into same power boards is generally not a good idea either. Ahh "humbugger's" the unsung heroes. Regards Richard

> For Logic Pro 7 - I would cut to the chase for a G5. > Preferably a dual G5 - but a G5 iMac with enough RAM and HD > will get him going - and keep him going for a while. Another thing to consider is that the mini has no audio input (at least that's what I get from the tech specs on the Apple website) which means you MUST purchase an external USB or FireWire Audio interface. The cost of extra memory for the mini is outrageous and - apparently - is not user installable. Expandability (especially as related to memory) is limited. An iMac would be a much better starting point in my opinion. Kamm

Hi, I'm trying to find the best way to transfer my Logic sessions to Pro Tools. Bouncing in OMF is fast, but doesn't include volume automation. I find that it isn't interesting for that. I NEED the automation. I tried exporting a track with the "File>export track as audio file" function. It works well and fast, but it doesn't include the automation either. The "Export all track as audio files" function doesn't name the tracks properly. That's a drag. Finally, the only way possible for me is to bounce track by track. I can have all the automation data, and I can name every track properly. Using the "offline" option saves some time. But I find this way of bouncing a little long. The ideal would be to have automation written directly into the OMF file. That would be NIRVANA!!! If you find a better way to transfer tracks to Pro Tools, please let me know. Thanks! Serge Essiambre

On 28/1/05 1:51 pm, "p8guitar" <p8guitar@...> wrote: > The security update killed the midi inputs/drivers or whatever, Logic 7 could > not receive any midi input from my keyboards (MicroKorg and Evolution 249c2) any more. > > Reinstalling the fireface drivers had no effect; I had to install the combe > update 10.3.7 (97MB) to get it working again. I think its killed Explorer and Quicktime on my Pbook. D

From: Peter Ostry <po@...> >Honestly, I find "clean electricity" rather esoteric when we talk about >digital equipment. Next time you will tell us, that Sculpture sounds >better with electricity from the Hoover-barrage than driven by >wind-generator-power from Amsterdam :-) It's not as esoteric as it might seem, because you're running analog circuitry as well. Now, running a separate circuit into your studio isn't "clean electricity," but it does offer *some* isolation from the refrigerator, light dimmers, vacuum cleaner, etc. "Clean" power is isolated from the city grid by a 1:1 transformer(either an isolation transformer or some other kind of unit that "conditions" the power, such as a balanced power box). I don't think that a separate circuit will filter the junk the refrigerator spews. -- Nick Batzdorf 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

On Jan 28, 2005, at 15:23, Kamm Schreiner wrote: > I haven't used Apple Loops yet myself. The one issue that would be > problematic for me, is that the only thing I use audio tracks for is > vocals. > The 8 bar limit might turn out to be a problem although I suppose I > could > break a longer region into two or more parts. I'll have to try them > out one > of these days. > > Kamm I have a very nice K.Yairi acoustic guitar and one day I took two hours to record all kinds of short guitar chords, notes etc with the very best recording and acoustics. Turned it all into apple loops for future use. I kind of like to cut up those loops and transpose them. Maybe create rhythm to a drone by alternate re-pitching of 16ths. Going to do the same thing with different instruments running though beat synced analog filter bank. That's a nice side of apple loops IMHO. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen --- http://www.looproom.com (international) http://www.boysen.se (Swedish site) http://www.cdbaby.com/perboysen

Does anyone have an experience with Mac powerbooks and the M-Audio 4/10 as I am thinking of buying one. Darren

On 28/1/05 11:10 am, "Maurits van de Kamp" <maurits@...> wrote: > However, I actually read stories from people who believe that the quality of > the AC cable (the CABLE!) of their computer I'm as sceptical as it gets but... I can hear the difference with makes of battery in my headamp! and blind testing batteries is easy. ;-) steve.