> > When I record a drum kit, I use 6 microphones, and 6 separate tracks > in Logic. Is there a way for me to record multiple takes of the drums > so that all of the drums appear as one track in the arrange page? How > does auto-mute and create track on cycle record work when you have 6 > audio objects recording simultaneously? The arrange page gets > cluttered quickly. I am looking for a way to group the tracks > together for arrangement purposes. Is this what folders are for? I've > never used folders. Can you rec-enable the folder and it auto rec- > enables all the contained tracks? Any advice on how to work this out? > > Thanks, > > Josh > > Folders are great for handling things like drum tracks. My advice would be to read the relevant sections of the manual, and experiment with using the folders. Also, this exact topic was discussed here, back around March I think, so possibly you can find the thread (and will likely get some helpful replies here as well). You are on the right track. Peace, Ed Billeaud Snowflake Studio

On 30/09/2004, at 9:57 PM, Michael Haydn wrote: > > XML import/export from/to FCP is a new feature. > How about OMF import - has this been fixed? I'm cheesed that this wasn't fixed in 6.4 OSX (Bento Container Error). Cheers! Dave.

To make mixing extrasuperPro in Logic, I'd love to have the following without having to think about workarounds: 1 The +3 or +6db panning law, at least on mono tracks 2 post-pan sends on mono and stereo tracks 3 automation trim on the LogicControl 4 full delay compensation for DSP-cards/outboard 5 dir-mixer plugin, for narrowing stereowidth, with finer resolution (!) 6 linking sends (absolute/relative) on tracks and, ahem, 7 a built-in, scalable LogicControl display window (very ego, I know) It's strange, I just don't get excited about new Logic instruments anymore. There are so many great, great AUs out there, I just wanna have a flexible host. Anyone wanna add something to the above? cheers, bernd

> Fortunately, I inadvertently saved all that playing in > the form of freeze files. Unfortunately, my default > setting for those freeze files was 32 bits, and I > can't seem to find a way to get Logic to re-import or > convert those 32 bit files. Soundhack can do this (and a million other things as well), and it's free. Go to versiontracker.com and seek it out. u b i k

<Quoting trimmed and fixed by admin> -------------- Original message -------------- > Michael Haydn wrote: > > > First of all, I'm a developer and not involved in marketing, so I can > > only give you my private opinion. > > Logic Pro 7 is the biggest upgrade we ever had and worth every single > > penny. > > Even if you have upgraded to Pro 6 yesterday. There are so many new > > features and enhancements. > > Buying external plug-ins which might have only an approximate feature > > set would sum up to at least $1000. > > So why should you be jealous of someone who hasn't upgraded to Pro 6? > > > > Beste Gruesse - best regards, > > Michael Haydn > > I totally agree with Michael and those who say that this upgrade really worths. > > Danilo But, the point isn't that the upgrade isn't a big upgrade, or worth the money. The point is that in a situation where someone could have gone without logic pro for a few days, and waited, it has cost an extra $299. That, to me, right now, is a lot. In my case, I've used Logic and Logic audio since version 1.2, and spent a good deal of money over the years. I just upgraded my computer and purchased the $699 upgrade. I have essentially now paid full price for Logic 7 again as an upgrade. So, I can BOTH agree that Logic is worth the money, and also argue that a fair upgrade policy should have saved me some money. So, I will pay the $299, but, at the same time, I think that it is unfair, and not really in line with what other software companies do - which is to offer a reasonable grace period in situations like this. One can argue all day long about what EXACTLY is a good cutoff point. That misses the point. IN this case there is no cutoff point at all.

On 9/30/04 3:00 PM, "logic-users@yahoogroups.com" <logic-users@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > The use of the EXS24 on a machine that was acting as a node to a main > machine would fall foul of the letter of the law, but it wouldn't mean two > people were taking advantage of one library and therefore cheating you out > of a well deserved wage. Sorry - and I don't speak as anybody representing Ilio or any other manufacturer on this. I'm one of the principal programmers for Korg Japan (main gig) and I've made 2 sampler libraries that Ilio distributes (side gig). You said it yourself in the above paragraph - that it's illegal. This analogy has nothing to do in comparison to dual processors in a single machine !!! If 2 people are using the same library (regardless of how they do it) then they should both be paid up customers with that library. PERIOD. No discount license fee option or special considerations. It took me over 1 year to make each of my libraries with NO MONEY for the whole time I created it. I know a number of libraries that have taken even longer to produce !!! I don't see how you guys think that all the sample library companies should be expected to "simply" change their licensing structure and then contact every customer that has purchased an Akai or ESX24 library from them to buy an upgraded license. It's almost impossible to make a living already doing just sample libraries. -John Lehmkuhl Look, I'm sorry if this slows down the use of ESX24 (I'm on a dual 500mhz G4 - you wanna talk about SLOW ????), but in my opinion, Apple is doing the right thing. Especially with the 64-bit version of OSX and Logic 7 coming down the road where things will (internally) run close to twice as fast as they already are doing now,

On 01/10/2004, at 4:05 AM, J wrote: > I have used a ton of gate plugins on drum tracks with little success. > Waves plugins all destroy the attack. Logic's built-in Noise Gate > plugin is the one to use. It isolates the tracks without destroying > their attack or release. Kudos to Emagic!!! I love it too. It's the only one I use. It makes cleaning up live drum tracks a breeze if the drummer is good. If the drummer is not so good I sometimes have to automate the threshold of the gate or go in and use gain change destructively on the audio waveform. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Paul Najar Jaminajar Music Production www.jaminajar.com

Paul, If this is how it will work then I'm all for investigating changing the EULA. Again all I have is my opinion and not the backing of any companies, but if it's for processor nodes to be available, then that's different than simply multiple nodes. -John Lehmkunhl > but in this instance, we are talking about making a mini cluster of > computers act like one machine and run only one copy of the daw at one > time run by one person. therefore, these combined computers (acting as > one big machine) run by one person just have more cpu power. it is not > a case of multiple users on multiple discreet boxes cheating a > developer out of money. and while the current eula may stipulate > against a distributed computer setup like this, i suggest it's time the > licensing agreement catches up with the times and with the users. > > > cheers, > > paul

> From: Chris Muir <cbm@...> > > At 2:13 PM -0700 9/30/04, George Leger III wrote: >> You could also use the behringer BCR2000 for this > > Yeah, maybe if my memory was better. Remembering the mapping on the > Behringer units would make them difficult to use, I would think. The > use of electronic "scribble strips" on the Mackie Control stuff is > really terrific. > The Behringer stuff is sure cheap, though, and I love that it has USB. > It's peculiar that a port for a complicated protocol like USB is way > cheaper than for a simple protocol like MIDI. It has USB&MIDI (1in/2out). You can also use it as a Midi-Interface (just plug it in, OSX sees it). BTW: I'm using the BCF in LogicControl mode with OS9&MIDI connected to my AMT8. Works like a charm. - cheers, bernd

Too much time on the internet today ... http://www.motu.com/products/software/dp/features/latency- compensation.htm cheers, bernd

I try to run The Grand as AU (converted via VST-AU) I have a dual 533 Mhz G4 and Logic 6.4.3. The Grand makes logic go down if I play to many notes. (I can't play normal things) Best Hydedane

Hi, I've been a dedicated PC user for years but Logic 7 has made me decide to make the switch. Because I'm on a limited budget, I'm looking at a 450mhz G4 cube with 512mb Ram - will Logic 7 be able to run on this and perform acceptably? Thanks!

At 11:37 am -0500 30/9/04, Brian Mikiten wrote: > > >> As someone who purchased logic pro 6 less than a year ago, I think >> >> this is pretty tacky. > >I've had a change of heart on my own statement. Why? > >1) I've made money with the Pro 6 version that I would not have made using >DP (my old app). I'm glad someone mentioned making money. For me, Hardware and Software are tools that I invest in in order to get jobs done and make money. (like a paintbrush If, in my opinion, it isn't a good investment of my money or time, I don't do it. Simple really. Of course I find the Logic upgrades to be incredible value for money, and in my world they pay for themselves very quickly indeed. Of course I have already ordered the L7 upgrade. -- Best Regards, Gareth Jones http://www.garethjones.com

At 6:10 pm +0000 30/9/04, J wrote: >When I record a drum kit, I use 6 microphones, and 6 separate tracks >in Logic. Is there a way for me to record multiple takes of the drums >so that all of the drums appear as one track in the arrange page? How >does auto-mute and create track on cycle record work when you have 6 >audio objects recording simultaneously? The arrange page gets >cluttered quickly. I am looking for a way to group the tracks >together for arrangement purposes. Is this what folders are for? I've >never used folders. Can you rec-enable the folder and it auto rec- >enables all the contained tracks? Any advice on how to work this out? sure, I track live bands all the time - and i use folders to do it. Immediately after the take I use the key command "Pack folder". All tracks go into a new folder which I label. All tracks are now empty and record enabled ready for the next take. check out folders! -- Best Regards, Gareth Jones http://www.garethjones.com

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Alex" <avangellow@y...> wrote: > It seems to me that in earlier versions of Logic one of the Key > Commands was "Start Next > Song". I think it was in Notator (Atari)

> On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:41:46 -0000, David Egbert <degbert@m...> wrote: > > Does anyone know if there's an upgrade path from the Big Box to > > Express 7? The upgrade info says: "Upgrade requires Logic Express 6 > > installed." Does the Big Box qualify too? --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, mark <melodic.creator@g...> wrote: > I've been told that Upgrade B, which was the path from BigBox/Express > to Pro will also be available for Logic 7. > I sure hope that's the case... and... is there an answer the question about "an upgrade path from the Big Box to Express 7?"

Does anyone know if automation data can be copied from track to track within a group in Logic 7? Cheers Clive Young

Can computers be connected by Firewire as a node or is it only via Ethernet? Cheers Clive Young

For whomever was complaining about the images on http://www.apple.com/logic/ not opening into a bigger version when clicked - The html "alt" tag on the image of the Arrange window on that page reads: "Need a better callouts image than the one we have from the box" Chris -- | In theory, there is no difference between http://www.xfade.com/ | theory and practice. In practice, there is. cbm@... | - Jan L.A. van de Snepscheut

Hi, JR wrote: >Panther will not install on a G3 Beige box. Not completely true; it's not officially supported, but there are people using Xpostfacto to install it. AFAIK, the Xpostfacto writer is actively working on improvements. > It [Panther?] requires a USB port, which >Beige boxes don't have (at least mine didn't), and an add on card won't do >it. I tried and failed. The OS 10.3 itself requires a USB port? Or did you mean Logic? Anyway, I have an OrangeMicro FW/USB card in my Beige, and the USB and Firewire work fine - the USB, for instance, supporting the XsKey for Logic Pro 6; and the FW a LaCie DVD +/-RW drive. >AFAIK. Also 233 is going to be veeeerrrryyyyy sluggish with a king kong >program like Logic 7 with any plugins running. Whether an old box will be useful is an individual matter - currently I'm editing mono spoken word and 2-track stereo audio takes. For final mix (with SD and other plugs) I couldn't possibly use it with the current CPU (/233), but for the composite editing it still works fine. And who knows, maybe one of those ZIF upgrade cards will allow me to run 10.3 when I do the mixing?.... Of course, I'd be a fool to try it. But I've been a fool before..... :-) Steven Rowat p.s. one of the things I've read widely about Panther is that it's FASTER than 10.2 was, noticeably. Thus it makes sense to put it into old machines, in places where 10.2 would have been too slow. At least, that's my theory..... hey, maybe 10.4 will be EVEN FASTER and I can get my 7100 back from my dad, and..... ;-) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - web site: <http://www.rowatworks.com>; mailto:sc@...

I just noticed the screenshot of the "new" logic and I have some questions: The tabs at the top edit-track-region-audio..... so are these customizable or do we have to go to separate screens to get the same info as we do in 6? I didn't see the delay, quantize params in the arrange window etc.. I hope that this just isn't a really good version of Garage Band. I love Logic and I don't really have time to learn a totally different way of working. So my question is where is all of the stuff in the left hand side of the screen gone to? Thanks! BaseJase Illynoise Music

Bounce & Add from Bar 1. Then you just have to create a track and place it. Freeze will do what you want transparently with access to the files available in the Freeze Folder. The Freeze files can then be mamed later for exporting/importing if required. Can't see an alternative. Cheers Clive Young

With the Distributed audio does this require another license of logic on another machine? G4 Dual 867, 768MB Ram, Logic Pro 6.4.1, Logic Control, 2 X 19" CRT Flatscreens, 2 x 80gig and 2x120gig FireWire HD, Protools 6.2.3, MOTU 896, Mackie HR824 Monitors, Pod XT, Korg Karma "All our dreams can come true, if we have the courage to pursue them." - Walt Disney (1901-1966)

> What do you mean by "violation" ?? It is a clear illegal situation to allow > EXS to work on multiple computers using the same library. I don't see enoug> h > residual money due to the illegal copying of my CDROMS already - a large > corporation like Apple would not dare violate this area of legality and > trust with 3rd party developers such as Ilio and myself, even if it does > "hurt" users of the larger sampler libraries in the "ease of use" of these > libraries. > > Long time lurking greets to all and peace to all ;) > > John "Skippy" Lehmkuhl Hey Skippy, I don't agree that EXS24 running on distributed computers SHOULD be a violation of sample disk agreements. The issue should be the illegal copies, not the legitimate users. In a typical distributed environment (at least as how I envision it) it would be: Single User Single Project at a Time No different than adding a dual processor to a single processor system The line is crossed (in my opinion) by going to Multiple Simultaneous Users and Projects, such as a studio complex each handling separate clients. That should require a Multiple or Site License. Allowing Single Users access to full distributed computing enables a much easier and more economical upgrade path to all users, and I would think make sample libraries more valuable. As an example, "I would love to use 'ABC' library (or instrument), but it bogs my computer down too much to be useful." As a user of multi-computer setups for 16 years for various purposes, the maintenance of multiple project files and sample libraries greatly diminishes its usefulness. Processing Nodes should be embraced as a way to make processor hungry plugins and libraries much more viable. Your friend always, Jeff

When we record drums we use 12-14 mics, and do multiple takes, sometimes upwards of 8, and you have to folder them, because once you get over 150 or so visible tracks in Logic, even if they are the same tracks duplicated many times, Logic can't display all the waveforms without freaking out the program and crashing....