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On drum tracks, I sometimes want to send a track out through my mixer
(Mackie d8b) to outboard analog compressors and then back in, mixing the
compressed track with the uncompressed. I know that the round trip latency
out and back in to the d8b is 82 samples, and want to take the newly
recorded compressed track and simply move it back 82 samples so it lines up
with the previously recorded tracks.
I looked in the manual and it appears I can only do this from the sample
edit window (not from arrange), but then the manual starting getting very
obtuse, talking about anchors vs. start points and updating arrange vs. not,
etc. Not a model of clarity.
Can someone please tell me in plain English the easiest way to do this
(other than using plugins which I know would solve the problem, but
sometimes you just want that analog touch)? Thanks!
Irwin
www.irwinshur.com
P.S. It's finally time--my new 2.0 G5 should arrive today, and I will
finally switch to OSX..gulp....
On 31.08.2004, at 16:12, James Gathigns wrote:
> I am really perplexed at the way Logic interprets the time of the
> notes I'm playing. Here's a specific example: I was playing two bars
> of 1/8th notes Gb and Ab. That's what I expected to see in the score.
> However, what I saw was a surprise. I saw a sequence of triplets,
> with the last note of the triplet being a chord. The sequencd Gb-Ab
> wasn't a sequence at all, but rather a chord Gb Ab. What's the deal?
> I practice with a metronome almost daily.
Switch on the click while you are recording.
Set the sequence to quantize if you want or need it or quantize
afterwards or use the legasto function (all of them sounds less human).
Or tell your metronome to discuss the timing with Logic :)
Peter Ostry
offset your non processed tracks with the Sample Delay plug in.
if only the region delays were in samples ! or if audio objects had
delays in samples on them (especially negative values)...
Haven Siguenza
Audio/MIDI Specialist
Sales and Support
www.macstation.com
> > How do I select all the notes with a specific velocity
> > or within a specific velocity range? -thanks
> >
>
> Time to explore the power of the Transform window. :)
>
> Open the transform window and choose Create New Transform. Pull-down
> menus will now appear under each column and operation heading, with
> "all" showing in all the selection boxes.
>
> The first thing to do is set up your selection criteria. In your case,
> since it's a velocity range you're looking for, not a time range, you
> would leave Position untouched, change Status to "=" and then
in the
> new window that opens underneath choose "note." Three columns
to the
> right of Status is a column marked "Vel" (velocity)--select
"inside"
> for that menu. You will now have two windows underneath the word
> "Inside"--one for the minimum, one for the maximum range.
>
> That's it. You're finished. Press the button at the top that says
> "Select Only" and everything will be selected. :)
>
> <shameless plug>
> There is of course lots more on the Transform window and other
> explanations that the manual itself is a bit skimpy on in my book,
> Logic 6 Power. :)
> </shameless plug>
>
> Hope that helps,
> Orren
Thanks! Not as elegant as I was hoping, but that works.
In the process I've created user-sets that I no longer
need. How do I delete them?
-thanks
On Aug 31, 2004, at 6:42 AM, Matthew Johnson wrote:
>>
>> Open Key commands window, Options>Copy Key Commands To
Clipboard,
>> Paste
>> in your fav text editor, format to taste, print, done.
>>
>
> I think organized was the key to the question. The list you get this
> way is ok, but definitely not ideal...
>
> Matthew
>
>
Yes, I already know the first way, in fact I told some one the same
method about 10 minutes after I asked. I'm looking for a nice, clean
list. I find the excel one I can make to be so so...
George
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bird land <bird.land@b...> wrote:
> What do I have to buy to upgrade my version of
> Logic to the latest version
On Emagics' website, the upgrade from Gold/Platinum 4.xx to Logic Pro
is listed at 699 Euro - this is the German list price. The price may
be different depending on where you live. You can find a list of
national distributors here:
http://www.emagic.de/company/distributors/index.php?lang=EN
kind regards
Mark Cahill
On 31 Aug 2004, at 14:01, KJ wrote:
>> Anyone have a MOTIF Rack Environment for Logic? I've found a way to
load
>> patch names but it takes a while. You can use a scanner to copy the
voice
>> names as a document into MS Word. Next, open the file in Word and
copy the
>> track names. Lastly, paste the track names for the MOTIF in its
Midi
>> Instrument in the Midi Environment window.
Hi there, if you go to motifator.com you will find environments for the
motif range. I downloaded one for my ES8 and it works fine. There's
scripts for Cubase also
Steve
haven siguenza <haven.siguenza@m...> wrote:
> offset your non processed tracks with the Sample Delay plug in.
>
> if only the region delays were in samples ! or if audio objects had
> delays in samples on them (especially negative values)...
Hmm, well two problems with that. First, it will take up some cpu
especially if I've got several dozen other tracks. Second, my other
drum tracks are samples played through EXS-24, so they exist as MIDI
data, rather than audio. I didn't think you could apply the sample
delay on those, or can you?
Irwin
www.irwinshur.com
Please help. I can't get any virtual instruments in Logic 6.4.2 using Pro
Tools Accel 3
Hardware and a HD 192. Everything else works. Mac OSX = 10.3.3 and I
downloaded Digi's
latest core driver.
shea_teeley wrote:
> does anybody have the emagic a62 m? im looking for a good multi-I/O
> audio interface to use with logic. any suggestions for other products
> would be appreciated.
Consider something else.
The EMIs are only USB1, therefor hogging the CPU quite a bit more than
modern interfaces.
Also, the plugs aren't symmetric (but you may not need symmetric lines for a
card in that range).
Converters IMO sound good, but there's better things on the market.
> oh yeah, money is not really a concern, however im not looking to
> spend thousands of dollars on an audio interface.
How many ins and outs do you exactly need?
6 ins usually aren't enough to properly record a drumset, so all one could
do is, say, route some synths into it (well yes, there's other purposes for
sure, but I wouldn't happen to know which).
In case 4 Ins are enough I'd consider something líke the M-Audio
Quattro
USB - at least something not using outdated hardware.
- Sascha
>
> thanks,
> shea
>
>
>
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> First, it will take up some cpu
> especially if I've got several dozen other tracks.
Put the sample delay into a bus which all to be delayed tracks are routed to
before they hit the stereo bus.
> Second, my other
> drum tracks are samples played through EXS-24, so they exist as MIDI
> data, rather than audio.
What leaves the EXS is audio, not MIDI.
Christian
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on 31/8/04 6:21 PM, Steve at steve@... wrote:
> I'm a Logic Pro user, and was trying to come up with a list of MIDI
> only features that Logic has that ProTools doesn't, for a friend who
> has a Digi 002 and PT LE, but only wants to do midi.
I'm also a member of the Opcode user's list (still using the wonderful
studio vision pro after all these years). All of us on that list are always
thinking about what we'll use next. Dave Oppenheim, who Opcode was named
after has been working on midi implementation for Digidesign ever since
Opcode's demise. It's rumoured amongst the well connected that Pro Tools 6.5
will have much improved midi implementation. At present it's 6.4.
I suppose if your friend needs to get things done this week, waiting is not
an option but 6.5 should come soon as 6.4 has already been out for a while.
Of course we will have to wait to see how good the midi is.
I've personally got my ear to the ground as I'd much prefer a Vision-like
app.
Andris
Unless I'm mistaken, with Panther the situation is that a single
application can't access more than 2GB of memory (even though there
can be more than that in the system itself and visible to OSX). Tiger
probably will help there, but since it's a little way off, that's not
what I'm wondering about now.
Does anyone know or has anyone tried whether AU plugins in Logic would
be treated as separate apps in this regard? For example, if you had a
software sampler taking up 2GB, could you simply load another one and
use another 2GB with it, provided you have the RAM?
Thanks,
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on 31/8/04 7:51 PM, George Leger III at george3@...
wrote:
> Cute, cheap, G5, ready for Logic..
>
> www.apple.com
>
> Starting at $1299 for a 17 inch with a single 1.6 G5.
Looks nice George. I suppose the only audio options would be USB or
firewire?
Andris
Hi there
I've been trying to automate softsynth parameters in Logic Express 6.4 using
a MIDI
controller (Novation ReMOTE 25). I've found some really good info in the
Logic-User
archives, and elsewhere on the net, about building "Transformer"
objects in the
environment to convert CC movements into Logic's Fader format.
I can't find these "Transformer" objects in the environment's
"New" menu, so I'm assuming
they're not included in Express. Is this the case, or am I missing
something?
Is there a workaround? Am I being a donut? Can I really not use hardware
faders with Logic
Express?
Any info or help appreciated. Thanks.
Jim
>
>How many ins and outs do you exactly need?
>6 ins usually aren't enough to properly record a drumset, so all one
could
>do is, say, route some synths into it (well yes, there's other purposes
for
>sure, but I wouldn't happen to know which).
>In case 4 Ins are enough I'd consider something líke the M-Audio
Quattro
>USB - at least something not using outdated hardware.
>
>- Sascha
>
>
>
>
yeah, Quattro is pretty good. only $99 at americanmusical.com now. I
got one last spring and have had no problem with it. the only issue is
that if you want to use all the i/os at onnce, it will only do 16 bit.
I think that is a limitation of the usb1 spec though. i still have never
heard how emagic does 8 channels over usb.
Neil Parfitt <cheezemachine@...> wrote:
> As for the Powercore, I could say more in the next week or so. The
> price for both, loaded with plugins, is about 2k but worth every penny,
> considering that they have so much power. I have a G5, and with these
> cards, have never used more than 50% of the DSP I have. With my G4, I
> found the UAD-1 gave me considerable power, and made my obsolete
> computer a viable option for both mastering and surround mixing.
>
> I would recommend both if you have the cash.
I second that,
They are not cards that you can directly compare.. they just are just the
way meat and potatoes go together :)
I think the UAD has more Meat though ;)
Neil Parfitt
www.neilaudio.com
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Thanks everyone for your kind opinions. I guess little by little Iwill
purchase both, plus the G5. I guess my questions to you guys now would be ,
which one first.
Once again, I have a PowerMac G4 Dual 1Ghz 512MB also....
Thank you so much
Diego
Powerbook G4 1Ghz 768 Mhz RAM
Mac OS 10.3.2
Logic Pro 6
MOTU 828mkII
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Hi,
I just got Logic pro for my Mac. I believe I've got everything set
up correctly, but don't know where to start as far as composing. Can
anyone suggest books, training, or methods that will get a novice up
to speed with using Logic as efficiently as possible. I could grind
through the manual, section by section, but has anyone found a
better way to start using the program efficiently.
Thanks
>> Why is that, and even more important: How can I change this? When
>> staying
>> inside Logic, the plugin window will stay on top as well... should
>> just be
>> the same with the finder opened, no?
>> As it is it somewhat defeats the purpose of drag'n'drop...
>
OS X has two kinds of windows: regular and float. In Logic the instrument
windows and the transport and some others all default to opening as floating
windows which means they go away when you are using another app - as you're
experiencing.
The good news is that in typical Logic fashion there is a cryptic option to
allow you to open whatever window in whatever mode suits your workflow.
Hold down cmd-opt while you open the window. Drag-and-drop away.
-ck
On Aug 31, 2004, at 3:39 PM, Andris Sice wrote:
> on 31/8/04 7:51 PM, George Leger III at george3@...
> wrote:
>
>> Cute, cheap, G5, ready for Logic..
>>
>> www.apple.com
>>
>> Starting at $1299 for a 17 inch with a single 1.6 G5.
>
> Looks nice George. I suppose the only audio options would be USB or
> firewire?
>
>
> Andris
>
>
Yes, but with some of the new ethernet utilities, one could use the
imac as a cheap dsp farm...
George
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Now both Mac OSX and Windows XP... the only way to fly ;-)
Buy the new CSi Logic Pro Starter Training CD
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On Aug 31, 2004, at 6:41 PM, packardbenjamin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just got Logic pro for my Mac. I believe I've got everything set
> up correctly, but don't know where to start as far as composing. Can
> anyone suggest books, training, or methods that will get a novice up
> to speed with using Logic as efficiently as possible. I could grind
> through the manual, section by section, but has anyone found a
> better way to start using the program efficiently.
>
> Thanks
>
Well I have 2 cd training tutorials:
VTC Logic 6 http://www.vtc.com/cd/logic.htm
Its 7 hours long, and is $100. The content is perfect for beginners
and CSi Logic Starter
http://store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/clink?muskalipman+MU3Us5+1592004784.html
It's 2.5 hours long, goes pretty fast, and is more for people that have
some experience with DAWs.
Then we have Orren Mortons book "Logic 6 Power", Len Sasso's'
"Logic
tips" book, Stephen Bennett has 2 books for Logic, and Dave Bellingham
also has a book.
Apple now has a Pro Series book out, that is great.
I have all of these products, and would recommend any on of them to you.
George
A Member of the Apple Consultants Network (ACN)
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On Aug 31, 2004, at 9:09 PM, George Leger III wrote:
>
> On Aug 31, 2004, at 3:39 PM, Andris Sice wrote:
>
>> on 31/8/04 7:51 PM, George Leger III at george3@...
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Cute, cheap, G5, ready for Logic..
>>>
>>> www.apple.com
>>>
>>> Starting at $1299 for a 17 inch with a single 1.6 G5.
>>
>>
No firewire 800? pretty much out for hardcore audio.
/m
I'm a Pro Tools user considering switching to Logic for MIDI work. Question
on quantizing
in Logic:
I am looking for a Quantize feature that will preserve the feel of MIDI drum
parts (recorded
with drum pads) that contain grace notes, flam, stick bounce and other cases
where a
single "hit" actually consists of multiple notes very close
together. I'd like a Quantize
function that would consider all notes within a user-specified range of each
other to be
grouped together (as a single hit) such that all notes in that group would
be moved the
exact same amount.
In other words, it would quantize the highest velocity note in the group and
then move all
the other notes in the group the same amount. This would be useful to
preserve feel on a
piano part where all the notes of a chord do occur at the exact same time.
So... can Logic do this?
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "kosmik101"
<twelve.powers@v...>
wrote:
> I can't find these "Transformer" objects in the environment's
"New"
> menu, so I'm assuming they're not included in Express.
Correct.
> Is there a workaround? Am I being a donut? Can I really not use
> hardware faders with Logic Express?
No donut. Investigate "Automation Quick Access" - look it up in
the
Logic Help menu. Then, when the limitations of that become apparent (1
control at a time) ... try LC Xmu. See my signature.
I have a beta available for registered LC Xmu owners that works around
the R25's lack of "real" endless rotaries, so emulating Logic
Control
v-pots _is_ currently possible with the R25. I was recently contacted
by Novation, so it's possible the R25 rotary-situation may be improved
in future too.
John Pitcairn
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Logic Control emulation for generic midi controllers:
LC Xmu demo: http://www.opuslocus.com/lcxmu/
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