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From: "Irwin Shur" <ishur@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 9:32:22 AM
Subject: Moving audio track by samples
Message #169601
On drum tracks, I sometimes want to send a track out through my mixer (Mackie d8b) to outboard analog compressors and then back in, mixing the compressed track with the uncompressed. I know that the round trip latency out and back in to the d8b is 82 samples, and want to take the newly recorded compressed track and simply move it back 82 samples so it lines up with the previously recorded tracks. I looked in the manual and it appears I can only do this from the sample edit window (not from arrange), but then the manual starting getting very obtuse, talking about anchors vs. start points and updating arrange vs. not, etc. Not a model of clarity. Can someone please tell me in plain English the easiest way to do this (other than using plugins which I know would solve the problem, but sometimes you just want that analog touch)? Thanks! Irwin www.irwinshur.com P.S. It's finally time--my new 2.0 G5 should arrive today, and I will finally switch to OSX..gulp....
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From: Peter Ostry <po@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 12:21:35 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Logic, MIDI, and Time
Message #169602
This is a reply to #169595.
On 31.08.2004, at 16:12, James Gathigns wrote: > I am really perplexed at the way Logic interprets the time of the > notes I'm playing. Here's a specific example: I was playing two bars > of 1/8th notes Gb and Ab. That's what I expected to see in the score. > However, what I saw was a surprise. I saw a sequence of triplets, > with the last note of the triplet being a chord. The sequencd Gb-Ab > wasn't a sequence at all, but rather a chord Gb Ab. What's the deal? > I practice with a metronome almost daily. Switch on the click while you are recording. Set the sequence to quantize if you want or need it or quantize afterwards or use the legasto function (all of them sounds less human). Or tell your metronome to discuss the timing with Logic :) Peter Ostry
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From: haven siguenza <haven.siguenza@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 1:42:40 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Moving audio track by samples
Message #169603
This is a reply to #169601.
offset your non processed tracks with the Sample Delay plug in. if only the region delays were in samples ! or if audio objects had delays in samples on them (especially negative values)... Haven Siguenza Audio/MIDI Specialist Sales and Support www.macstation.com
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From: "strobe_tallbot" <strobe_tallbot@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 1:44:26 PM
Subject: Re: How do I select all the notes within a specific velocity range?
Message #169604
This is a reply to #169566.
> > How do I select all the notes with a specific velocity > > or within a specific velocity range? -thanks > > > > Time to explore the power of the Transform window. :) > > Open the transform window and choose Create New Transform. Pull-down > menus will now appear under each column and operation heading, with > "all" showing in all the selection boxes. > > The first thing to do is set up your selection criteria. In your case, > since it's a velocity range you're looking for, not a time range, you > would leave Position untouched, change Status to "=" and then in the > new window that opens underneath choose "note." Three columns to the > right of Status is a column marked "Vel" (velocity)--select "inside" > for that menu. You will now have two windows underneath the word > "Inside"--one for the minimum, one for the maximum range. > > That's it. You're finished. Press the button at the top that says > "Select Only" and everything will be selected. :) > > <shameless plug> > There is of course lots more on the Transform window and other > explanations that the manual itself is a bit skimpy on in my book, > Logic 6 Power. :) > </shameless plug> > > Hope that helps, > Orren Thanks! Not as elegant as I was hoping, but that works. In the process I've created user-sets that I no longer need. How do I delete them? -thanks
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From: George Leger III <george3@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 1:56:34 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Key command list
Message #169605
This is a reply to #169593.
On Aug 31, 2004, at 6:42 AM, Matthew Johnson wrote: >> >> Open Key commands window, Options>Copy Key Commands To Clipboard, >> Paste >> in your fav text editor, format to taste, print, done. >> > > I think organized was the key to the question. The list you get this > way is ok, but definitely not ideal... > > Matthew > > Yes, I already know the first way, in fact I told some one the same method about 10 minutes after I asked. I'm looking for a nice, clean list. I find the excel one I can make to be so so... George ________________________________________________________ A Member of the Apple Consultants Network (ACN) www.utopiaparkwaymusic.com Now both Mac OSX and Windows XP... the only way to fly ;-) Buy the new CSi Logic Pro Starter Training CD http://store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/clink?muskalipman+MU3Us5+1592004784.html
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From: "markdvc2002" <mark@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 2:02:16 PM
Subject: Re: upgrade path from 4.8 2 latest version?
Message #169606
This is a reply to #169598.
bird land <bird.land@b...> wrote: > What do I have to buy to upgrade my version of > Logic to the latest version On Emagics' website, the upgrade from Gold/Platinum 4.xx to Logic Pro is listed at 699 Euro - this is the German list price. The price may be different depending on where you live. You can find a list of national distributors here: http://www.emagic.de/company/distributors/index.php?lang=EN kind regards Mark Cahill
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From: Steve Pogson <steve@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 2:06:36 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Anyone have a MOTIF Rack Environment?
Message #169607
This is a reply to #169592.
On 31 Aug 2004, at 14:01, KJ wrote: >> Anyone have a MOTIF Rack Environment for Logic? I've found a way to load >> patch names but it takes a while. You can use a scanner to copy the voice >> names as a document into MS Word. Next, open the file in Word and copy the >> track names. Lastly, paste the track names for the MOTIF in its Midi >> Instrument in the Midi Environment window. Hi there, if you go to motifator.com you will find environments for the motif range. I downloaded one for my ES8 and it works fine. There's scripts for Cubase also Steve
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From: "irwinshur" <ishur@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 2:16:42 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Moving audio track by samples
Message #169608
This is a reply to #169603.
haven siguenza <haven.siguenza@m...> wrote: > offset your non processed tracks with the Sample Delay plug in. > > if only the region delays were in samples ! or if audio objects had > delays in samples on them (especially negative values)... Hmm, well two problems with that. First, it will take up some cpu especially if I've got several dozen other tracks. Second, my other drum tracks are samples played through EXS-24, so they exist as MIDI data, rather than audio. I didn't think you could apply the sample delay on those, or can you? Irwin www.irwinshur.com
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From: "moogercycle" <moogercycle@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 2:42:49 PM
Subject: (Lack of) Virtual Instruments in Logic 6.4.2 with Pro Tools Accel Hardware
Message #169609
Please help. I can't get any virtual instruments in Logic 6.4.2 using Pro Tools Accel 3 Hardware and a HD 192. Everything else works. Mac OSX = 10.3.3 and I downloaded Digi's latest core driver.
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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 3:30:24 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] a62 m
Message #169610
This is a reply to #169599.
shea_teeley wrote: > does anybody have the emagic a62 m? im looking for a good multi-I/O > audio interface to use with logic. any suggestions for other products > would be appreciated. Consider something else. The EMIs are only USB1, therefor hogging the CPU quite a bit more than modern interfaces. Also, the plugs aren't symmetric (but you may not need symmetric lines for a card in that range). Converters IMO sound good, but there's better things on the market. > oh yeah, money is not really a concern, however im not looking to > spend thousands of dollars on an audio interface. How many ins and outs do you exactly need? 6 ins usually aren't enough to properly record a drumset, so all one could do is, say, route some synths into it (well yes, there's other purposes for sure, but I wouldn't happen to know which). In case 4 Ins are enough I'd consider something líke the M-Audio Quattro USB - at least something not using outdated hardware. - Sascha > > thanks, > shea > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Logic Users Group - http://www.logic-users.org/ListPolicy.html > Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > **** Search through all 160,000+ messages (thanks Gmane!): **** > http://search.gmane.org/?group=gmane.comp.audio.emagic.logic.users > _________________________________________________________________ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
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From: <christianobermaier@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 4:36:13 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Moving audio track by samples
Message #169611
This is a reply to #169608.
> First, it will take up some cpu > especially if I've got several dozen other tracks. Put the sample delay into a bus which all to be delayed tracks are routed to before they hit the stereo bus. > Second, my other > drum tracks are samples played through EXS-24, so they exist as MIDI > data, rather than audio. What leaves the EXS is audio, not MIDI. Christian -- homepage http://uk.geocities.com/christianobermaier/home.htm
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From: Andris Sice <hasice@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 5:35:37 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Midi features missing from ProTools
Message #169612
This is a reply to #169584.
on 31/8/04 6:21 PM, Steve at steve@... wrote: > I'm a Logic Pro user, and was trying to come up with a list of MIDI > only features that Logic has that ProTools doesn't, for a friend who > has a Digi 002 and PT LE, but only wants to do midi. I'm also a member of the Opcode user's list (still using the wonderful studio vision pro after all these years). All of us on that list are always thinking about what we'll use next. Dave Oppenheim, who Opcode was named after has been working on midi implementation for Digidesign ever since Opcode's demise. It's rumoured amongst the well connected that Pro Tools 6.5 will have much improved midi implementation. At present it's 6.4. I suppose if your friend needs to get things done this week, waiting is not an option but 6.5 should come soon as 6.4 has already been out for a while. Of course we will have to wait to see how good the midi is. I've personally got my ear to the ground as I'd much prefer a Vision-like app. Andris
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From: Panu Aaltio <paaltio@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 5:31:06 PM
Subject: Over 2GB of memory for plugins?
Message #169613
Unless I'm mistaken, with Panther the situation is that a single application can't access more than 2GB of memory (even though there can be more than that in the system itself and visible to OSX). Tiger probably will help there, but since it's a little way off, that's not what I'm wondering about now. Does anyone know or has anyone tried whether AU plugins in Logic would be treated as separate apps in this regard? For example, if you had a software sampler taking up 2GB, could you simply load another one and use another 2GB with it, provided you have the RAM? Thanks, -- Panu Aaltio, paaltio@... . http://cmt.siba.fi/paaltio Firestorm / Doomsday . Grotto Dragon -==(UDIC)==- ... Student of Film Music Composition and ... Music Technology at Sibelius Academy
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From: Andris Sice <hasice@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 5:39:48 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Check out the new iMacs
Message #169614
This is a reply to #169588.
on 31/8/04 7:51 PM, George Leger III at george3@... wrote: > Cute, cheap, G5, ready for Logic.. > > www.apple.com > > Starting at $1299 for a 17 inch with a single 1.6 G5. Looks nice George. I suppose the only audio options would be USB or firewire? Andris
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From: "kosmik101" <twelve.powers@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 6:35:55 PM
Subject: Logic Express and Transformer objects
Message #169615
Hi there I've been trying to automate softsynth parameters in Logic Express 6.4 using a MIDI controller (Novation ReMOTE 25). I've found some really good info in the Logic-User archives, and elsewhere on the net, about building "Transformer" objects in the environment to convert CC movements into Logic's Fader format. I can't find these "Transformer" objects in the environment's "New" menu, so I'm assuming they're not included in Express. Is this the case, or am I missing something? Is there a workaround? Am I being a donut? Can I really not use hardware faders with Logic Express? Any info or help appreciated. Thanks. Jim
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From: Bigg John <biggjohn@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 6:51:54 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] a62 m
Message #169616
This is a reply to #169610.
> >How many ins and outs do you exactly need? >6 ins usually aren't enough to properly record a drumset, so all one could >do is, say, route some synths into it (well yes, there's other purposes for >sure, but I wouldn't happen to know which). >In case 4 Ins are enough I'd consider something líke the M-Audio Quattro >USB - at least something not using outdated hardware. > >- Sascha > > > > yeah, Quattro is pretty good. only $99 at americanmusical.com now. I got one last spring and have had no problem with it. the only issue is that if you want to use all the i/os at onnce, it will only do 16 bit. I think that is a limitation of the usb1 spec though. i still have never heard how emagic does 8 channels over usb.
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From: Diego Quiroz <sonofinca2000@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 8:19:15 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] TC Powercore vs UAD-1 or G5? Or Both?
Message #169617
This is a reply to #169557.
Neil Parfitt <cheezemachine@...> wrote: > As for the Powercore, I could say more in the next week or so. The > price for both, loaded with plugins, is about 2k but worth every penny, > considering that they have so much power. I have a G5, and with these > cards, have never used more than 50% of the DSP I have. With my G4, I > found the UAD-1 gave me considerable power, and made my obsolete > computer a viable option for both mastering and surround mixing. > > I would recommend both if you have the cash. I second that, They are not cards that you can directly compare.. they just are just the way meat and potatoes go together :) I think the UAD has more Meat though ;) Neil Parfitt www.neilaudio.com _________________________________________________________________ Logic Users Group - http://www.logic-users.org/ListPolicy.html Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ **** Search through all 160,000+ messages (thanks Gmane!): **** http://search.gmane.org/?group=gmane.comp.audio.emagic.logic.users _________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Groups Links Thanks everyone for your kind opinions. I guess little by little Iwill purchase both, plus the G5. I guess my questions to you guys now would be , which one first. Once again, I have a PowerMac G4 Dual 1Ghz 512MB also.... Thank you so much Diego Powerbook G4 1Ghz 768 Mhz RAM Mac OS 10.3.2 Logic Pro 6 MOTU 828mkII --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses.
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From: "russma8" <russm@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 8:37:48 PM
Subject: Anyone have a Kurz PC2x environment?
Message #169618
...well....do you.....? :-)
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From: "packardbenjamin" <bpackard1@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 8:41:09 PM
Subject: Learning Logic
Message #169619
Hi, I just got Logic pro for my Mac. I believe I've got everything set up correctly, but don't know where to start as far as composing. Can anyone suggest books, training, or methods that will get a novice up to speed with using Logic as efficiently as possible. I could grind through the manual, section by section, but has anyone found a better way to start using the program efficiently. Thanks
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From: bork <bork@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 8:46:55 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Plugins allways on top?
Message #169620
This is a reply to #169580.
>> Why is that, and even more important: How can I change this? When >> staying >> inside Logic, the plugin window will stay on top as well... should >> just be >> the same with the finder opened, no? >> As it is it somewhat defeats the purpose of drag'n'drop... > OS X has two kinds of windows: regular and float. In Logic the instrument windows and the transport and some others all default to opening as floating windows which means they go away when you are using another app - as you're experiencing. The good news is that in typical Logic fashion there is a cryptic option to allow you to open whatever window in whatever mode suits your workflow. Hold down cmd-opt while you open the window. Drag-and-drop away. -ck
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From: George Leger III <george3@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 9:09:55 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Check out the new iMacs
Message #169621
This is a reply to #169614.
On Aug 31, 2004, at 3:39 PM, Andris Sice wrote: > on 31/8/04 7:51 PM, George Leger III at george3@... > wrote: > >> Cute, cheap, G5, ready for Logic.. >> >> www.apple.com >> >> Starting at $1299 for a 17 inch with a single 1.6 G5. > > Looks nice George. I suppose the only audio options would be USB or > firewire? > > > Andris > > Yes, but with some of the new ethernet utilities, one could use the imac as a cheap dsp farm... George ________________________________________________________ A Member of the Apple Consultants Network (ACN) www.utopiaparkwaymusic.com Now both Mac OSX and Windows XP... the only way to fly ;-) Buy the new CSi Logic Pro Starter Training CD http://store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/clink?muskalipman+MU3Us5+1592004784.html
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From: George Leger III <george3@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 9:16:35 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Learning Logic
Message #169622
This is a reply to #169619.
On Aug 31, 2004, at 6:41 PM, packardbenjamin wrote: > Hi, > > I just got Logic pro for my Mac. I believe I've got everything set > up correctly, but don't know where to start as far as composing. Can > anyone suggest books, training, or methods that will get a novice up > to speed with using Logic as efficiently as possible. I could grind > through the manual, section by section, but has anyone found a > better way to start using the program efficiently. > > Thanks > Well I have 2 cd training tutorials: VTC Logic 6 http://www.vtc.com/cd/logic.htm Its 7 hours long, and is $100. The content is perfect for beginners and CSi Logic Starter http://store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/clink?muskalipman+MU3Us5+1592004784.html It's 2.5 hours long, goes pretty fast, and is more for people that have some experience with DAWs. Then we have Orren Mortons book "Logic 6 Power", Len Sasso's' "Logic tips" book, Stephen Bennett has 2 books for Logic, and Dave Bellingham also has a book. Apple now has a Pro Series book out, that is great. I have all of these products, and would recommend any on of them to you. George A Member of the Apple Consultants Network (ACN) www.utopiaparkwaymusic.com Now both Mac OSX and Windows XP... the only way to fly ;-) Buy the new CSi Logic Pro Starter Training CD http://store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/clink?muskalipman+MU3Us5+1592004784.html
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From: Mati <zurich.enteract@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 9:52:43 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Check out the new iMacs
Message #169623
This is a reply to #169621.
On Aug 31, 2004, at 9:09 PM, George Leger III wrote: > > On Aug 31, 2004, at 3:39 PM, Andris Sice wrote: > >> on 31/8/04 7:51 PM, George Leger III at george3@... >> wrote: >> >>> Cute, cheap, G5, ready for Logic.. >>> >>> www.apple.com >>> >>> Starting at $1299 for a 17 inch with a single 1.6 G5. >> >> No firewire 800? pretty much out for hardcore audio. /m
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From: "xja12" <yahoogroups1@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 10:03:48 PM
Subject: Grouping notes in quantize?
Message #169624
I'm a Pro Tools user considering switching to Logic for MIDI work. Question on quantizing in Logic: I am looking for a Quantize feature that will preserve the feel of MIDI drum parts (recorded with drum pads) that contain grace notes, flam, stick bounce and other cases where a single "hit" actually consists of multiple notes very close together. I'd like a Quantize function that would consider all notes within a user-specified range of each other to be grouped together (as a single hit) such that all notes in that group would be moved the exact same amount. In other words, it would quantize the highest velocity note in the group and then move all the other notes in the group the same amount. This would be useful to preserve feel on a piano part where all the notes of a chord do occur at the exact same time. So... can Logic do this?
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From: "John Pitcairn" <johnp@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 at 11:47:57 PM
Subject: Re: Logic Express and Transformer objects
Message #169625
This is a reply to #169615.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "kosmik101" <twelve.powers@v...> wrote: > I can't find these "Transformer" objects in the environment's "New" > menu, so I'm assuming they're not included in Express. Correct. > Is there a workaround? Am I being a donut? Can I really not use > hardware faders with Logic Express? No donut. Investigate "Automation Quick Access" - look it up in the Logic Help menu. Then, when the limitations of that become apparent (1 control at a time) ... try LC Xmu. See my signature. I have a beta available for registered LC Xmu owners that works around the R25's lack of "real" endless rotaries, so emulating Logic Control v-pots _is_ currently possible with the R25. I was recently contacted by Novation, so it's possible the R25 rotary-situation may be improved in future too. John Pitcairn ------------------------------------------------------------- Logic Control emulation for generic midi controllers: LC Xmu demo: http://www.opuslocus.com/lcxmu/ -------------------------------------------------------------
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