Hi, Has anyone established an "inexpensive" way to timecode lock Logic and FCP together running on the same Mac or on separate Macs? It would be very useful for me to do this, but at the price of some of the solutions I've found, both software and hardware, I'm not anxious to jump into it. FCP forums have been little help. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Randall

So I should just buy a firewire 800 drive right? Even though my MDD 1.25 only has firewire 400 there is no penalty and with a new G5 you get the entire bandwidth, yes? Please correct me if this is wrong thinking. I need a drive quick. Thanks Michael Telle

>> cost... need 8-16 outputs. any sugguestions would be great! > > RME make the best native soundcards that I've ever used > and heard. > RME IMHO. Stable, great sound, flexible, and the right price. Ciao Gio

I have been trying without success to use my Evolution UC-16 and/or Oxygen 8 to control various parameters (ie: filter cutoff) of Logic's AU plugins. I set the controller at the correct cc number for the parameter--no response. I should mention that I can control my NI AU plugins beautifully with both of these controllers. Any help would be appreciated. Lisa

> > No experience with G5 sadly yet :-( > > However I hope you are not thinking that the operating system is responsible > for the noise of the machine. The fan/harddrive noise is a hardware thing > (and to a degree the firmware - often in PC's you have some control over the > fan speed). > > If the G5 is liquid cooled then it should be a lot quieter, and there have > been improvements in fan noise over the years - my new G4 is somewhat > quieter than my old one. fan noise does actually have to do with the OS on G4 MDD. OS X controlls the fans in these macs, and on G5's. ever notice how in target disk mode the fans go to full? OS 9 has no ability to control the fans, so they just go to max power in order to keep the computer safe. the current G5's are quieter than any G4 tower I have ever heard. Haven Siguenza Audio/MIDI Specialist Sales and Support www.macstation.com

considering the multipressor has audible phase problems to begin with, I would never use it to master anything. but it does sound nice on individual instruments, whose less complex sound may not be effected or even may benefit from the phase shift around the crossovers. if the drums are too loud, turn em down! Haven Siguenza Audio/MIDI Specialist Sales and Support www.macstation.com

Hi Pardon me for missing something - but was the Phat Channel ever actually released (you remember the 32 extra knobs for the Logic/Mackie control)? I can't seem to find any evidence of it existing. Thanks Pete

Hello, I've just installed Logic 6 Pro on a Powerbook G4 1,5 Ghz with 1 Go DDR. I launch Logic in demo mode waiting for a key. When I load Emagic plug-ins or Wave 2.V via VSAU adapter, I can play those instruments without problems. I can't load Moog Modular V with a message : Core Audio : Not enough memory to open plug-in (-10108). I used MMV on my PC with Logic 5.5 and it worked fine. I could load a second one and another plug-ins without any problem with the same memory (1 Go DDR). Is there a parameter in Logic for Mac about this problem ? Just for information, when I bought the Mac, I also bought a MOTU 828 MkII and I find it has a very great sound. Thank you if somebody can hep me. Perhaps i's not a Logic issue ? Philippe Vial. Lyon. France.

> I just added a TC Powercore elements to my system, and > am having a problem with bounced files being 'out of > sync' upon adding to the arrange. Check "Plug-Ins delay compensation" in the Logic Audio Preferences. Ivan

hello, my entire studio is now on my mac. i'm getting ready to complete a new project. i'm noticing a significant decrease in sound quality after bouncing a song to a single stereo track. the same song sounds much crisper and tighter when played inside logic (as compared to the bounced version). my tracks are set at 24/48. a few questions: is this the fault of logic or my audio card? i remember a post similar to this a while ago and some external hardware was suggested. are there any alternatives to bouncing without using external gear? how do the pros handle this situation? i love the convenience of bouncing, but do not want to sacrifice audio quality. i'm running logic 6.3.4 with an m-audio delta-66 card on a G4 (1gig ram, DP1.24, OSX 10.2.6). thanks in advance, jon z. .............................................. "Good and Evil are absolute. Dying for what you believe in is only virtuous if your moral cause is Good. Those who sacrifice themselves to destroy Goodness are servants to Evil, no matter how passionate they may seem." .............................................. http://www.jonzaremba.com (music) http://www.savetheuniverse.us (words) .............................................. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.710 / Virus Database: 466 - Release Date: 6/23/04

> I can't load Moog Modular V with a message : Core Audio : Not enough memory to open > plug-in (-10108). I don't know if it's still true of OSX because I've not had this message yet. But I was informed that Logic basically sticks this message up whenever something goes wrong. It doesn't necessarily mean that the memory is the issue. So I wouldn't get too distracted with the specific meaning of this error - especially on a 1Gb machine. Its more likely a configuration or install problem.

At 11:28 AM 06/29/2004, you wrote: >So I should just buy a firewire 800 drive right? Even though my MDD >1.25 only has firewire 400 there is no penalty and with a new G5 you >get the entire bandwidth, yes? Please correct me if this is wrong >thinking. I need a drive quick. Right. The only penalty is that you'll have to buy a 9 pin to 6 pin adapter cable.

Just installed Logic platinum 6 OSX panther using audio units for audio inst. plugins. When I open a Logic 5 song which was done in OS 9 with VST audio instruments, they (audio instument insert slots) show up marked out and will not open. I have not installed Logic 5 yet on this G5. Is that necessary? Seems like they should just convert and open. All of the same plugins have been installed in OSX and work great in "new" songs constucted in Logic 6. So how do I get Logic 5 Plugins to open in Logic 6?

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Szirtes" <tom@d...> wrote: > > > I can't load Moog Modular V - Core Audio : Not enough memory to open > > plug-in (-10108). > > I don't know if it's still true of OSX because I've not had this message > yet. But I was informed that Logic basically sticks this message up whenever > something goes wrong. It doesn't necessarily mean that the memory is the > issue. So I wouldn't get too distracted with the specific meaning of this > error - especially on a 1Gb machine. Its more likely a configuration or > install problem. I had a little trouble with Arturia plug-ins, mainly because I didn't like what folders it installed them in, and I tried to move them. They wouldn't open properly after that; when I moved them back and renamed the folder the way it had been, everything opened fine. The Moog is a bit of a RAM hog, though, I think... I've had a little trouble with it once, after auditioning several different AU instuments and then opening the Moog - Logic would crash (OSX, I Ghz G4 with 512 RAM); after relaunching Logic I was fine. GK

On 30. kesä 2004, at 05:32, stagperu wrote: > Just installed Logic platinum 6 OSX panther using audio units for audio > inst. plugins. When I open a Logic 5 song which was done in OS 9 with VST > audio instruments, they (audio instument insert slots) show up marked out > and will not open. I have not installed Logic 5 yet on this G5. Is that > necessary? Seems like they should just convert and open. All of the same > plugins have been installed in OSX and work great in "new" songs constucted > in Logic 6. So how do I get Logic 5 Plugins to open in Logic 6? When speaking of Logic's own plug ins this is typical since the old OS 9 song still tries to use the old audio driver. Just change that to Core Audio and you should be fine. Cheers Check out the web page for my band updated 9.4.2004 . New home address : http://jormapen.fidisk.fi

On Jun 30, 2004, at 12:13 AM, philvial@... wrote: > Hello, > > I've just installed Logic 6 Pro on a Powerbook G4 1,5 Ghz with 1 Go > DDR. > > I launch Logic in demo mode waiting for a key. > > When I load Emagic plug-ins or Wave 2.V via VSAU adapter, I can play > those instruments > without problems. > > I can't load Moog Modular V with a message : Core Audio : Not enough > memory to open > plug-in (-10108). That's the same error message I sometimes get when opening a CPU intensive project from my dual 2 GHz G5 on my Powerbok 1,25 GHz. But those songs usually open up anyway and I will have to freeze a lot of those soft-synth tracks before hitting "play" - or Logic will die and crash. On the other hand I'm producing a lot with the Moog Modular V on this Powerbook. I can run five to sex instances with no problem but then I have to start freezing. So it should work on your machine. Maybe you did not set the OSX system preferences to "Highest Performane" under "Energy Saver?" (just a wild guess) All the best Per Boysen --- http://www.boysen.se http://www.looproom.com

Neil Ward wrote: > Basically what happens is, as soon as I use a TC elec > plugin on a track (audio or instrument), and then > bounce a section of the track and add it, the bounce > has a bit of extra space at the beginning of it, and > the end is chopped off (to the same amount of > space)<-- hope this makes sense...., and thus shifts > all the sounds out of sync... I realise I can just > bounce larger sections and trim the bounced file to > bring it back in time, but thats gonna be a mission!! You do have plug-in delay compensation turned on, don't you? - Logic-Preferences/Audio. Even so, this doesn't work on Aux/busses (at least not on v5.5.1/Windows...dunno about Mac) which is where TC's compensation delay plug-in comes in handy, as illustrated in the Powercore manual. For the Powercore reverbs, I just forget about it and factor the delay into the pre-delay one generally has with reverbs anyway. If you've got the TC plug-in on your master output then the bounce delay is unavoidable but easily rectified as it's the whole mix. I must say that I don't really find it that laborious to nudge bounced files back into sync. In fact, I generally find it good practice to check all bounces for their sync anyway - it's only a moment or too to correct any waywardness. If, say, a slow attack pad of an audio instrument is at the beginning of your bounce and its hard to line up with it's MIDI note-on, you could grab a sharp spike of audio from somewhere and place that on an audio track on the first tick of the bar previous to the instrument's start. You'll then have an easy visual guide to where to slip the wave back to if calculating the offset from the delay in samples/milliseconds is a drag. Just snip off the spike when you're done. I have found too that it's best to allow one muted bar either side of your desired bounce range - especially with the Powercore - I've noticed Logic appreciates the extra time to get everything kicking off correctly when the audio & midi come in. One thing I've found that is disruptive and irritating, however, is that cycling isn't always glitch free if there's a Powercore plug-in involved and with some VST's that rely on the host clock/bpm for a particular effect, that VST's timing goes right out the window if there's a Powercore plug-in on the same channel. The only workaround then is to disable it, bounce the VST to audio and then re-insert it on the audio channel playing back the bounced file. Thankfully, Logic's own instrument's/fx are free from this. Again though, this is on 5.5.1/Windows anyway so maybe they sorted all that out in v6.xxx ___ Ade

Why would you want to do this? Render a quicktime movie in Final Cut and then go into Logic and import it using the Option:Movie menu item. The video will be in sync and will never slip out. Pickup time will be faster than ou could possibly concieve let alone expect from an external system. When you are done, bounce the audio and import it into FCP and it wil be in sync (DON'T FORGET ALL SESSIONS MUST BE 48Khz) If you've got the software then this will cost you nothing at all. Ceri PS/ to use both of these you may need to set up another user and keep your audio units in the local user folder rather than global. FCP crashes with certain types of AU.

On Jun 30, 2004, at 1:33 AM, Sean McCoy wrote: > Given that the G5's still have room for only two internal drives, and > nobody really has need for a 160 Gig system drive, are G5-Logic users > ignoring the old adage about not using their system drives for audio > and/or > sample streaming? FireWire 800 is a viable alternative, but still isn't > nearly as fast as the internal SATA bus, and I can't imagine everyone > is > letting that much valuable and fast drive potential go to waste. Good question. I have recorded to the system disk with no problems but it should be pointed out that if you use the mac philosophy it is pretty easy to fill up your system volume even without recording audio or video onto it, although the way they have things set up it is pretty hard to avoid filling it up with audio from iTunes movies from iMovie, pictures from iPhoto, and loops and projects from Grarage Band, not to mention the fact that the system itself can write multi gig log files (especially if there is something wrong that is generating errors and the errors are getting logged) and huge index files for the search functions and other huge files for the file journalling.

On Wednesday, June 30, 2004, at 03:44 am, darealbasoski" <mail@...> wrote: > U sure u started logic before Live? > O. Yes, and I've tried every permutation (starting Logic first, then live, then quitting live, then quitting logic, and all the variations of that order i can think of), restarting my computer with the keyboard off, and on, resetting the keyboard. I also tried removing the Live and Rewire files from my Application support folder - at the moment I'd be happy if I could just get back to how it was before I installed Live. I don't actually want to use the two together, so if it is rewire that is causing the problem(?) then is there a way of just disabling that? Andy

> > On Jun 30, 2004, at 1:33 AM, Sean McCoy wrote: > >> Given that the G5's still have room for only two internal drives, and >> nobody really has need for a 160 Gig system drive, are G5-Logic users >> ignoring the old adage about not using their system drives for audio >> and/or >> sample streaming? FireWire 800 is a viable alternative, but still >> isn't >> nearly as fast as the internal SATA bus, and I can't imagine everyone >> is >> letting that much valuable and fast drive potential go to waste. >> I partitioned the internal drives on my G5. However it seems that you can only do that when installing the system. I was used to the comfort brought by PartitionMagic on a PC and had to reinstall Panther to set up a suitable partitioning ;-) All the best Per Boysen --- http://www.boysen.se http://www.looproom.com

You need to 1. start Logic... 2. put Logic into PLAY... 3. then launch Live. Also, make sure ample rates match up 1st. Worked for m a while back. rRand

Yesterday somebody informed about the existence of Receptor, an independent 2u rack VST host, it can run until 16 instruments and 57 effects, so many questions came to my head...there are other alternatives like this for those like me that have a low G4 system? It seems to be compatible with Mac and Logic but...what about AU support? Is Receptor a better option than Powercore or UAD-1? It would be possible to execute Logic plug-ins in in Receptor (o systems like this)? Can you imagine 8 ES2, 8 ESX24 and 20 SpaceDesigners (or whatever you want) without stole CPU power from your main CPU? Maybe just a dream....

Hi, > I'm using the DIGI 001 for audio I/O into Logic 6 on Mac OS9. I want > more inputs. You can get a digital to analog converter box (sometimes called an "expander") to turn your eight litepipe channels into an additional eight analog channels. The Alesis A13 expander does this. You would then have sixteen analog ins and outs from your 001. > Can you use two DIGI 001's simultaneously with Logic6 ? No. > Will Logic recognize the DIGI and a different box, like a MOTU box, > simultaneously? Yes in OS 9. No in OS X. But I would personally go the expander route before buying a second audio interface. Your logic session will be easier to manage. You won't have to deal with multiple audio engines, multiple mixer environments, etc. -------- Eli Krantzberg http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com Almat Productions

Thanks.... I will give those two a try. Thanks again. --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Andy M." <andywanders@y...> wrote: > --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "rob" <orbitborn@y...> wrote: > > --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "laydencee" <hedo@m...> wrote: > > > Is there a list of Triton names and Kurzweil k2600 instrument > names? > > > > > > I cannot find one, and I do not wish to type all of them. > > > > > > Any hellp would be great. > > > There's a couple of Yahoo group for Kurzweil. > > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/KurzList/?yguid”363264 > > You might try there. > > I have a multi instrument for a K2500 with Orchestra and Contemporary > ROMs. Is that any use to ya..? > > Cheers, Andy M.