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From: Brian Pylant <bappo@...>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 7:13:19 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] control surface or keyboard and mouse?
Message #162526
This is a reply to #162503.
> I know coming from an analog recording background a "mixer" is > easier I think that is *very* much a matter of personal preference... Brian :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Logic Audio Pro 6.4.1 PowerMac G4 933MHz OS X 10.3.3 1 GB RAM MOTU 828mkII - driver v1.09 - CueMix v1.4
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From: Dave Howard <david@...>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 7:32:12 AM
Subject: Dual Processor
Message #162527
Hi all Is there anything that I have to do to ensure that Logic (pro) is working with both processors? Dave
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From: James Ryan <jeryan@...>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 8:21:46 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] LogicPro/Panther and NI Battery problems
Message #162528
This is a reply to #162518.
> From: GAmoore@... > Reply-To: logic-users@yahoogroups.com > Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:20:27 -0400 (EDT) > To: logic-users@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [LUG] LogicPro/Panther and NI Battery problems > > Is anyone else experiencing problems with Battery in system X panther? The > drag and drop won't work at all, neither can I load cells with AIFF or Wav > files. I have tried multiple days, and spent 30 minutes on the phone with > NI tech support without any improvement. I had a similar problem with Intakt. Files from Sample CDs wouldn't load. The solution was to go into Logic or similar program and convert the file to a different format and/or bit depth, i.e. AIFF to SDII or vice versa. That solved the problem. Kind of a pain though. James
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From: Peter Ostry <po@...>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 8:52:18 AM
Subject: Re: [lug][GEN] EQ settings?
Message #162529
This is a reply to #162481.
On 29.04.2004, at 21:11, Brad Swafford wrote: > since I not the best at EQ and compression Some help: www.pcmus.com/AudioTips.htm Peter Ostry
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From: "Viperstudio" <viperstudio@...>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 9:03:37 AM
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Virtual=20instruments=20in=20Logic=20-=20problem=2 0with=20play=20at=20the=20same=20time...?=
Message #162530
Hi for all !!! I have Logic Pro 6. I do not obtain to join two or more virtual instruments to play at the sametime. For example, I do not obtain to play a piano (instrument 1 - The grand) with strings (instrument 2 - EX24) at the same time. Somebody has a suggestion? Thank´s Viperstudio Audio Studio Technology Quer internet Grátis com qualidade e muito mais serviços? Escolha o Caminho Mais Curto! Ubbi free! baixe agora o discador - http://free.ubbi.com.br/
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From: Peter Ostry <po@...>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 9:59:28 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] control surface or keyboard and mouse?
Message #162531
This is a reply to #162503.
On 30.04.2004, at 05:47, mixandburn wrote: > ...Of the many posts I read both here and > other places, there seems to be a lot with issues in regard to > control surfaces interfacing with software properly. Do these same > issues exist when using an audio interface with the keyboard and > mouse?... You mean a standard card or card/box without any MIDI controlling? This won't give you headache - you are going to use Logic how it likes it. Especially if you come from analog mixing you might sooner or later be tired of handling vertical on-screen faders by horizontal mouse movement just one by one without tactile feedback. But if your main interest is mixing and you are willing to spend 1500-2500 bucks you are lucky. There are very good motorized controllers for that. I would first get a good audio interface for a good sound and think later about hardware controlling. The time works for you... Peter Ostry
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jürgen_Frenz?= <yjf@...>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 9:51:34 AM
Subject: Re: A26m and DTS/AC3 pass through
Message #162532
Damien, I only owned the A26 before so I'm not 100% sure about the A62m. But from that one I am positive that the s/pdif really is stereo only. To my understanding dts passthru contains the entire bitstream thus is multichannel and wouldn't be compatible with the device's capacities. Hopefully someone else in the forum knows more details... Bye Jurgen
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From: "Paul Stephenson" <pauls@...>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 10:10:22 AM
Subject: RE: [LUG] Looking For New Audio Interface
Message #162533
> -----Original Message----- > From: hank alrich [mailto:hank@...] > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 8:35 PM > To: logic-users@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [LUG] Looking For New Audio Interface > > > I'm fairly well sold on either a Motu 2408 (or 828) or digi 002 - but > two > >new interface is just popped up for me -the HammerFall card or something > new > >I just heard about - > > > >mobile I/O 02882 > >http://www.mhlabs.com/products/2882.html > > I've been using the MIO 2882+DSP for over a year, and I think it's > great value. I appreciate the convertors, and the portability, as I > use it with a TiBook. There is an active discussion list, with > searchable archives: > > http://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/mobileio > > -- > ha I love my MIO 2882+DSP!! Great interface. I jam with mine live every Thursday - Saturday night! Paul
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From: Peter Graae <list@...>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 11:01:41 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] fx to midi channels
Message #162534
This is a reply to #162525.
fredag 30. apr 2004 kl. 09:49 skrev christian obermaier: >> Is it possible to assign a plugin fx to a midi channel. > > Do you know the difference between MIDI and Audio ? > > Christian > Do you know what a midi plug-in is? Users of Sonar, DP and CubaseSX sure do. But no - Logic don't have midi plug ins. But you can do what you want to do in Logic's Environment - with a bit of patience. Peter
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From: "drgruv1" <drgruv1@...>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 11:22:47 AM
Subject: Upgrading from G4 to G5 - HOW?
Message #162535
How do I move everything from the g4 to the g5? This seems like a simple question, but with ALL my software and authorizations and plugins... Any Ideas? 1) Pay apple, they have a pro user fee for $99 (will the authorizations work?) 2) Using the Firewire Target Mode - reformat the new drive and copy the whole old drive to the new (WILL THE AUTHORIZATIONS WORK THIS WAY?) 3) ????? Your Idea thanx -michael
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From: "osroubek" <o.sroubek@...>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 11:24:08 AM
Subject: Setting up hardware
Message #162536
I am new to this and have the demo version of Logic 6 supplied by the Apple Pro Training Series. I am running a Powerbook G4 with OSX and have the following: USB Audio Duo and a Layla 24 and a Casio standard keyboard being used as a controller. I like to record songs using mostly guitar, bass, vocals, simple keyboard and drum sounds. I find that to record audio tracks I use the Duo, then have to switch to the Layla for inputting keyboard data by switching the drivers in the preferences window. For creating drum sounds and anything else generated by the keyboard do I record it as a MIDI track or an audio instrument track? Am I losing the ability to use certain plugin sounds for keyboard or drums when not recording as a MIDI track? I am not using the onboard sounds generated by the keyboard. Help witht he basic set up would be appreciated. When I open up a new song/environment, do I clear out all the default tracks and start from scratch. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Otakar Sroubek
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From: Glenn at Schadowrider <schadowrider@...>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 12:03:47 PM
Subject: Re: So is 10.3.3 any better than 10.3.2 on a G4?
Message #162537
Sorry about the header on the last one... on 4/30/04 2:27 AM, logic-users@yahoogroups.com at logic-users@yahoogroups.com wrote: > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:40:52 -0700 > From: Michael Telle <telle@...> > Subject: So is 10.3.3 any better than 10.3.2 on a G4? > > Ok, kind of an unanswerable question but I'm thinking mostly in terms > of stability. Our G4 is only a Quicksilver 867; 10.3.2 was the first version of X3 we put up -- it was sooooo slow at screen draws, etc., so as to be outright painful. 10.3.3 was a huge pickup in performance but still too slow; you will probably get a much better boost toward something nice with your dual. I don't recall the details, but I seem to recall .3 was supposed to have a lot of GUI performance improvements over .2.... FWIW, combining this with a lot of other reasons, we decided to up to a 2G G5 fully loaded w/ 8G of memory (which, while we love it overall, has in turn given us some real problems being able to use our UAD card). -Glenn @ Schadowrider
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From: Brad Swafford <pearfloor605@...>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 11:56:29 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [LAW] System Overload 512mb memory
Message #162538
Thank you sir for your response, I really dont know all that much about computers, but im running windows xp. The computer is a deminsion 2350 desktop. Its only about 6 months old. My vst programs im running are Edirol Superquartet, and Edirol Vsc. Is there any way to fix this problem? Thanks, Brad
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From: Mothra <mothra@...>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 12:10:24 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] So is 10.3.3 any better than 10.3.2 on a G4?
Message #162539
This is a reply to #162537.
Glenn at Schadowrider wrote: > Our G4 is only a Quicksilver 867; 10.3.2 was the first version of X3 we put > up -- it was sooooo slow at screen draws, etc., so as to be outright > painful. 10.3.3 was a huge pickup in performance but still too slow; you > will probably get a much better boost toward something nice with your dual. > I don't recall the details, but I seem to recall .3 was supposed to have a > lot of GUI performance improvements over .2.... > > FWIW, combining this with a lot of other reasons, we decided to up to a 2G > G5 fully loaded w/ 8G of memory (which, while we love it overall, has in > turn given us some real problems being able to use our UAD card). > > -Glenn @ Schadowrider Interesting. I have a Quicksilver 2002 800, and have never had any problems with the screen redraws in ANY version of OS X.. Theyve all worked just as advertised for me... -- Chris http://www.descentrecords.com
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From: <christianobermaier@...>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 1:43:56 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] fx to midi channels
Message #162540
This is a reply to #162534.
>> Do you know the difference between MIDI and Audio ? > Do you know what a midi plug-in is? Peter, i certainly know what a MIDI plug in is. I was asking the original poster if *he* knows the difference, because each of the three possible answers (yes or no) would require a different reply. BTW, the third possible answer (which is none at all) would actually require me to restrain from writing an elaborate reply of any sort so as to minimize unnecessary waste of electrons. Christian -- homepage http://uk.geocities.com/christianobermaier/home.htm
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From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@...>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 12:52:51 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Virtual instruments in Logic - problem with play at the same time...
Message #162541
This is a reply to #162530.
"Viperstudio" <viperstudio@...> writes: >I do not obtain to join two or more virtual instruments to >play at the same time. For example, I do not obtain to play >a piano (instrument 1 - The grand) with strings (instrument 2 - >EX24) at the same time. It could be that you've activated SOLO (you'll see yellow in the timeline, and a yellow solo "S" button in the Transport). f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>
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From: Andy Tarpinian <evildead@...>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 12:35:25 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Upgrading from G4 to G5 - HOW?
Message #162542
This is a reply to #162535.
On 4/30/04 12:22 PM, "drgruv1" wrote: > How do I move everything from the g4 to the g5? > Best thing to do is do it the old fashion way. Copy your files over and install everything from scratch. I can't recommend this enough, you never know what stuff from you old system will muck things up. It's much better to take the time to set your new system than have to figure out any problems later. Just my 2 bits -andy
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From: Michael Telle <telle@...>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 12:33:13 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] So is 10.3.3 any better than 10.3.2 on a G4?
Message #162543
This is a reply to #162537.
On Apr 30, 2004, at 10:03 AM, Glenn at Schadowrider wrote: >> Ok, kind of an unanswerable question but I'm thinking mostly in terms >> of stability. > > Our G4 is only a Quicksilver 867; 10.3.2 was the first version of X3 > we put > up -- it was sooooo slow at screen draws, etc., so as to be outright > painful. 10.3.3 was a huge pickup in performance but still too slow; > you > will probably get a much better boost toward something nice with your > dual. > I don't recall the details, but I seem to recall .3 was supposed to > have a > lot of GUI performance improvements over .2.... > > Glenn, thanks for getting back to me. The GUI issue is not a big deal for me on the dual 1.25. What I'd really like to know is if it is more stable. I'm having quite a few crashing, freezing issues with Kontakt, GPO and Stormdrum. Yes, I know, they're all NI plugs. Coincidence? I think not. I'm hoping that somehow the 10.3.3 update will be more stable with the NI stuff. It could just as easily be less stable. Anyone? Regards MT
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From: Fernstudio <fernstudio@...>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 12:50:29 PM
Subject: RE: [LUG] Native Komplete 2 Plugin collection
Message #162544
i Howard, > Yeah, I can't believe people are dissing NI synths, best money I've spent > on software instruments. Battery is fantastic, and I love FM7. Oh well... > to each his own. I received the notice as well, great deal! If I'm not mistaken, you're on a PC. On the PC, the NI synths appear to be relatively stable. On OSX, it has been another story. Reaktor crashes quite a bit when you try to do very much on OSX. I typically either use it on my PC or I do all of my editing in the standalone and then bounce it in Logic. Only with the latest version of Kontakt have NI made it usable with DFD turned on. Even though I have had quite a few crashes in the past while, Logic has stabilized more when I've removed the NI AU's from the components folder. I don't think that too many people have dissed their sound, but their stability on a Mac under OSX has not had a great track record. You can get work done for the most part but it can be painful at times. I will only add that stability has improved considerably since I first started using them on OSX with Logic. Even with some of the problems, this bundle deal is a great value and I'll probably take advantage of it. Best regards, Fernstudio
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From: Howard Wooten <hwooten@...>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 5:52:06 AM
Subject: Re: fx to midi channels
Message #162545
> From: nturnill@... > >Is it possible to assign a plugin fx to a midi channel. Having just read in >a magazine that you can do this in Sonar. Would be very useful. >Nathan Sonar does have MIDI "Plugins" as does CubaseSX, but these are not the same as audio plugins. MIDI is data only, if you want to use audio plugins on MIDI you must record the MIDI output as an audio track. MIDI FX are simply small programs that modify MIDI data as it passes through. MIDI plugs (in SX) include "density", "micro-tune", "auto-pan" "chorder"...etc..etc. The list goes on and on. You will not find plugins like reverb and EQ as MIDI plugs. HW
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From: Brian Tully <brian@...>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 12:57:02 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Upgrading from G4 to G5 - HOW?
Message #162546
This is a reply to #162535.
on 4/30/04 12:22 PM, drgruv1 at drgruv1@... wrote: > How do I move everything from the g4 to the g5? > This seems like a simple question, but with ALL my software and > authorizations and plugins... Any Ideas? > 1) Pay apple, they have a pro user fee for $99 (will the authorizations > work?) > 2) Using the Firewire Target Mode - reformat the new drive and copy the > whole old drive to the new (WILL THE AUTHORIZATIONS WORK THIS WAY?) i'll be in a similar position once the new revision G5s come out. I've never heard of Apple's pro user fee, and doubt it would avoid having to reauthorize your software and plugins. in fact i don't think there's a surefire way to copy the stuff over without having to reauthorize. at least with the XSKey it's a painless process. as for your other software and plugins it all depends on the authorization scheme. while it may be a little time-consuming I can't imagine it being a problem provided you have your serial/registration numbers stored in a safe place. Even those apps that require authorizing via Challenge/Response on the web (Native Instruments, Spectrasonics) are pretty quick about getting back to you with a response. If i were you i'd get all my registration info neatly organized and within arms reach of your new G5. good luck with the new computer! regards, brian
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From: "marcomadera" <marcomadera@...>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 12:59:18 PM
Subject: Logic with Digi 002
Message #162547
Hi I'm needing to put a portable (17" powerbook) setup together and I'm looking at running Logic and Dp as front end software for a Digi 002 rack . I'm guessing this will work OK via asio. (yes ... no...?) Next question - can the RTAS plugins (i.e the Bomb Factory stuff) be accessed when running Logic or DP or only with Protools LE? Is the Digi 002 pretty decent or should I just get a MOTU 828mk2? Any info much appreciated. Thanks MM
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From: iam me <iamme3@...>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 1:06:13 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [LAW] System Overload 512mb memory
Message #162548
This is a reply to #162538.
--- Brad Swafford <pearfloor605@...> wrote: > Thank you sir for your response, > I really dont know all that much about computers, > but im running windows xp. The computer is a > deminsion 2350 desktop. Its only about 6 months old. > My vst programs im running are Edirol Superquartet, > and Edirol Vsc. Is there any way to fix this > problem? Brad, You didn't mention which sound card you are using. If you are using the sound built-in on the Dell, then that's your problem. The Built-in sound might work ok for a few audio tracks, but once you start trying to do real time processing (like effects or audio instruments) you need something better suited to that workload. Almost any USB/Firewire/PCI audio interface will provide you with significantly better performance. Lance
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From: "Pete Thomas" <pt@...>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 1:14:29 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Upgrading from G4 to G5 - HOW?
Message #162549
This is a reply to #162535.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "drgruv1" <drgruv1@y...> wrote: > How do I move everything from the g4 to the g5? > This seems like a simple question, but with ALL my software and > authorizations and plugins... Any Ideas? > 1) Pay apple, they have a pro user fee for $99 (will the authorizations > work?) > 2) Using the Firewire Target Mode - reformat the new drive and copy the > whole old drive to the new (WILL THE AUTHORIZATIONS WORK THIS WAY?) I don't think Firewire target mode will work, but you can either use Carbon Copy Cloner (Donationware) or (if you have panther on nyour G4) the panther disk utility restore function to clone your G4 drive to a firewire drive, then "restore"| it onto your G5. I've done it from G4 powerbook to a G5 and all authorisations worked saving me hours of authorisation fun. I have heard that there can be problems with CCC so check that you can boot from from the firewire clone before getting rid of the G4. See my thread on Apple discussions about this, there were some very helpful answers: http://discussions.info.apple.com/WebX?14@89.y70naBI3k24.0@.6890be37 Hope this helps Pete When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a nail. www.petethomas.co.uk www.soundtrack-composer.co.uk
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From: "rob" <orbitborn@...>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 1:29:48 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Upgrading from G4 to G5 - HOW?
Message #162550
This is a reply to #162535.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "drgruv1" <drgruv1@y...> wrote: > How do I move everything from the g4 to the g5? > > This seems like a simple question, but with ALL my software and > authorizations and plugins... your software and plugins will have to be reinstalled and reauthorized (except for Logic which'll just work when you plug your key in). the reason for this is that depending upon what version of the OS your G4 was running, there may be some differences with where things get installed. It's generally a good idea to start from scratch, pain that it may be. Also, if the authorization keys are based on hardware (as is the case with Amplitube, for example), the old keys won't work on the new machine anyway. > Any Ideas? > > 1) Pay apple, they have a pro user fee for $99 (will the authorizations > work?) you could, but why bother? I doubt your authorizations will work. > 2) Using the Firewire Target Mode - reformat the new drive and copy the > whole old drive to the new (WILL THE AUTHORIZATIONS WORK THIS WAY?) That'd work, though you shouldn't need to reformat the new drive. Again, you don't want to overwrite your OS with an older version which may not even work with your new G5. Personally, I'd opt for this method as it's the coolest. :) > 3) ????? Your Idea If you've got a superdrive, external burner, put your stuff on CD / DVD. It's a good idea to make a solid backup before attempting something like this anyway. External firewire harddrive. I've got one of these (available on the cheap these days) which I use for doing regular backups. Plug it in and fire it up, copy your files then disconnect and attach to the other machine. Then there's the old network file transfer. Get yourself a little ethernet hub or a router and hook up the two machines that way. Am I missing anything? :) ~ rob
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