jump to beginning previous thread #6427 Showing Logic-users Digest 6428 of 9850 next thread #6429 jump to end

Forum Index | Read LUG: Policy/Rules Messages Threads Digests | Post New Message | Search!

From: Brian Pylant <bappo@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 at 9:05:36 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Automation of Output 1-2 - Manually Adding to Arrange Window
Message #160676
This is a reply to #160468.
> Makes perfect sense to me because then the Adaptive Track Mixer will > not > become astronomically huge ;-) What I meant by "obtuse" is: what does "icon" have anything to do with "will be listed in the Arrange window". Seems like an extremely poor choice of nomenclature to me... Brian :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Logic Audio Pro 6.4.1 PowerMac G4 933MHz OS X 10.3.3 1 GB RAM M-Audio Delta 24/96 (fed via S/PDIF from a Yamaha DSP Factory)
Viewed 945 times, 3 replies, 15 messages in thread. Reply to this message. Read this thread.
From: "nick_sevilla" <nick_sevilla@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 at 9:51:29 PM
Subject: Re: Recording with the G4 iBook
Message #160677
This is a reply to #160594.
--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "macsuess" <macsuess@y...> wrote: > Hi, > > does any one uses a Apple iBook G4 933 Mhz notebook for recording with logic? > And how much RAM do use? > > Greetings Hi macsuess, I use an Apple iBook G4 800mHz with maximum ram which is 640MB in my case. I use the Tascam US122 interface when on the road,and it works very well.I use Logic Audio Platinum version 6.3.3 (the last update before going to PRO) Also,I use an Edirol PCR30 as a midi keyboard/controller interface and a Kensington Expert Mouse Pro (I can't for the life of me use the trackpad for much at all,I'm too slow on it.) I record all audio and sessions onto an external firewire or two. Cheers, Nick www.nicksevilla.com
Viewed 658 times, 0 replies, 2 messages in thread. Reply to this message. Read this thread.
From: George Leger III <george3@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 at 10:26:26 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] Logic Crash Scanning Path References
Message #160678
This is a reply to #160669.
On Mar 31, 2004, at 5:03 PM, Fernstudio wrote: > Anyway, I > decided to delete the Project Manager database. I did that and now > Logic Pro doesn't crash. I could have sworn that I set Logic to never > check the Project Manager database but perhaps I changed the setting at > one time. Anyway, I appear to be back in business. I guess the bright > side is that I only lost a day :-( > > Thank you to everyone, especially George Leger III, for offering their > help. :-) > Thanks for the solution. I'm sure it will help me someday... As for the help, Anytime... I'm collecting Karma points ;-) George www.utopiaparkwaymusic.com Now both Mac OSX and Windows XP... the only way to fly ;-)
Viewed 840 times, 0 replies, 2 messages in thread. Reply to this message. Read this thread.
From: George Leger III <george3@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 at 10:28:00 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Antares Microphone Modeler demo.
Message #160679
This is a reply to #160671.
On Mar 31, 2004, at 4:40 PM, Jim Seaman wrote: > Does anyone know where to download an Antares Microphone Modeler demo > that works with OSX 10.3 and LAP 6? > > Thanks > Jim > Hi Jim, Sorry to say, at this time, there isn't one. No VST for OSX and no AU either :-( G3 www.utopiaparkwaymusic.com Now both Mac OSX and Windows XP... the only way to fly ;-)
Viewed 879 times, 0 replies, 2 messages in thread. Reply to this message. Read this thread.
From: "mikekiraly1" <MIKEKIRALY1@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 at 10:17:20 PM
Subject: CPU Load while using Powercore or UAD increased in 6.4?
Message #160680
Hi everyone, Just thought I 'd post to see if anyone else has experience with this. I currently own a Powercore Element (v 1.8) and a UAD card (v3.4) running in OSX.3.3 with Logic Pro 6.4.1 on a G4 DP800. Last night, I did a few experiments with CPU load and these DSP cards. I have owned the UAD card for some time, but I am new to the Powercore. So I pushed them both to their respective breaking points, just to see how many plug ins I could cram on to 4 audio tracks before the cards hit their limits. What I was shocked to discover is that my CPU almost gave up before the cards did - is that normal? I mean, isn't that the point of having these cards, so that I will leave my CPU relatively unstressed? Now, I know to expect some hit to the meters (I would have assumed maybe ten to fiftenn percent), but not an overload. Mind you, I did not have any native plug ins or instruments running at all - just each card alone, by itself. I discovered that a fully taxed Powercore equalled a fully taxed CPU and a fully taxed UAD left my meters hovering around the 80% mark. And not just one meter, but both CPU's! I have tried all of the posted tips and tricks (increasing the I/O buffer, changing the PoCo settings per the TC site, etc) and ultimately I am very dissapointed. Am I delusional for believing that I should have better performance? Perpetually seeking more power, Mike
Viewed 700 times, 1 reply, 3 messages in thread. Reply to this message. Read this thread.
From: "misterioso270" <misterioso270@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 at 10:49:01 PM
Subject: Logic Pro 6.4 - how to properly install the 3 CD's?
Message #160681
Hello. I'm a Logic Pro 6 newbie... have had the program 1 day. Unless I missed something really obvious... I'm not sure what I should be copying onto my hard drive from the 3 CD's included - as the Installation Manual only speaks of the Logic CD and not the other two which are 1) the electronic manuals and 2) the sound library for Space Designer. (This is because the documentation that comes with Logic Pro 6 is old Logic Platinum documentation). I "Easy Installed" the obvious programs... but there were lots of folders, etc.. on these discs that I wondered if I should copy onto my hard drive. The documentation didn't mention these other two CD's as previously mentioned. Emagic Infoweb - of no help to this question. And - if I should copy some of these folders... anyone have a suggestion as to where I should put this other stuff on my hard drive? Slightly confused- Thanks in advance.
Viewed 640 times, 1 reply, 4 messages in thread. Reply to this message. Read this thread.
From: "mtrickmore" <rickmcneely@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 at 10:38:16 PM
Subject: logic pro 6 upgrade from platinum 5
Message #160682
can anyone tell me if the upgrade from platinum 5/gold to logic 6 pro work if i'm coming from platinum 5 on a pc?
Viewed 642 times, 0 replies, 1 message in thread. Reply to this message. Read this thread.
From: "J. Arthur Lee" <stellar808@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 at 11:12:57 PM
Subject: Deleting (Really) Audio Regions
Message #160683
I have deleted some audio regions out of a piece, but each time I open the file Logic inquires about the location of the files. I do not plan to use them again and I would like to avoid the queries. How do I tell Logic that I really did mean to delete those regions...forever? John Lee
Viewed 669 times, 2 replies, 3 messages in thread. Reply to this message. Read this thread.
From: "steinway03" <dr_l_music@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 at 11:19:55 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] the future of bouncing/voodoo
Message #160684
This is a reply to #160614.
<quotes repositioned by admin> "Jules Bromley" <jules@t...> wrote: > > Can I just be clear on this. Are some people saying that digital summing > performed by one application sounds better than when performed by another > application? I'm curious from a mathematical perspective about performing compression or reverb on individual tracks and then summing the tracks via bouncing compared against summing the tracks and adding the same effect to the master channel in a bounce. If the effects were linear, then one would expect the same result. But if the effects are non-linear then one would not necessarily expect the same result. My impression is that compression is linear in the logarithmic domain. I'm not sure about reverb. Yet wouldn't digital summing be in the linear, not logarithmic domain? A related question: all other parameters constant, would two compressions of ratio 2 (audio track and master) be equivalent to one compression of ratio 4? Cheers, Larry
Viewed 791 times, 1 reply, 8 messages in thread. Reply to this message. Read this thread.
From: Howard Wooten <hwooten@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 at 4:26:41 PM
Subject: Re: Reason to use Input Objects?
Message #160685
> From: Brian Pylant <bappo@...> > >> I'm afraid you can not "get around" latency. It's the way hardware >> (computer, AD process) works. > >It's not latency, but rather a weird audio routing issue; what's >happening is the input signal is being routed directly to the monitors, >AND the output signal from Logic when "software monitoring" is enabled) >is being routed as well... Sounds like you have "direct monitoring" or "zero latency monitoring" enabled. The M-Audio control panel should have a setting to defeat that. Logic always enabled direct monitoring by default on my old RME 24/96, I never did figure out how to shut it off, seemed to over ride the RME control panel setting. Anyway, check the M-Audio documentation for "zero latency" or "direct" monitoring. HW
Viewed 820 times, 2 replies, 4 messages in thread. Reply to this message. Read this thread.
From: <christianobermaier@...>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 at 12:34:59 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Automation of Output 1-2 - Manually Adding to Arrange
Message #160686
This is a reply to #160676.
> What I meant by "obtuse" is: what does "icon" have anything to do with > "will be listed in the Arrange window". Seems like an extremely poor > choice of nomenclature to me... Well, in that sense, books are also obtuse, cause since nowhere is stated that you have to read them left to right, how is one supposed to make any sense of these things ? Enabling the icon makes objects selectable in the track instrument list. Get used to it and use it to your advantage. Christian -- homepage http://uk.geocities.com/christianobermaier/home.htm
Viewed 1494 times, 1 reply, 15 messages in thread. Reply to this message. Read this thread.
From: "stregga416" <stregga416@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 at 11:28:50 PM
Subject: Digi002 w/Logic 6.2.1 in OS 10.2.8 problem
Message #160687
anyone who can help with this problem would be greatly appreciated... currently installed logic 6.2.1 onto a Mac system running OS 10.2.8 and PT 6.1.2 (with the Digi 002). I can see the audio inputs running through the 002 into Logic registering, but when i go to record audio, it doesn't record. The record dialogue appears, but the counter just remains at 5 minutes and nothing gets recorded. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Viewed 867 times, 0 replies, 1 message in thread. Reply to this message. Read this thread.
From: "mikekiraly1" <MIKEKIRALY1@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 at 11:29:53 PM
Subject: Re: CPU Load while using Powercore or UAD increased in 6.4?
Message #160688
This is a reply to #160680.
<quotes trimmed by admin> > Just thought I 'd post to see if anyone else has experience with this. I currently own a > Powercore Element (v 1.8) and a UAD card (v3.4) running in OSX.3.3 with Logic Pro 6.4.1 > on a G4 DP800. Last night, I did a few experiments with CPU load and these DSP cards. I > have owned the UAD card for some time, but I am new to the Powercore. So I pushed them > both to their respective breaking points, just to see how many plug ins I could cram on to > 4 audio tracks before the cards hit their limits. What I was shocked to discover is that my > CPU almost gave up before the cards did - is that normal? By the way, I just finished a little more experimentation - it turns out that the Tubifex plug in on the Powercore was partially the culprit. I guess it's just a bit new and rough around the edges? Now, the PoCo maxed out (without any Tubifex instances) pushes my CPU meters to about 45% - 50%. Still not what I would consider a miraculous savings in CPU while using a dedicated DSP card. As for the UAD, I learned that CPU usage jumped dramatically as I pushed the card past it's 60% mark. So, if I had 60% of the UAD card used, my CPU meters were around 35% - 40%. But if I opened one more plug in and pushed the UAD to 70% or 75%, the CPU meters spiked into the 90% range. I guess the UAD card doesn't like to be pushed to hard. Just thought I would share my experience. I would love to hear other experiences and see if they are similar to mine.
Viewed 671 times, 1 reply, 3 messages in thread. Reply to this message. Read this thread.
From: Hans Hafner <hanshafner@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 at 11:49:40 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: the future of bouncing/voodoo
Message #160689
This is a reply to #160654.
At 16:02 Uhr -0500 31.03.2004, ROBERT GALLIGAN, BLOOMBERG/ 499 PARK wrote: >I'm currently recording a demo and am probably going to master it myself, in >hopes that later, some label will pay for a mastering pro to do it. Would you >recommend Bob's book for me, or is it too deep? My opinion: Any information is good information and will show up in ones own experience and therefor work! Cheers Hans
Viewed 795 times, 0 replies, 10 messages in thread. Reply to this message. Read this thread.
From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@...>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 at 12:01:59 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Automation of Output 1-2 - Manually Adding to Arrange Window
Message #160690
This is a reply to #160676.
Brian Pylant <bappo@...> writes: >what does "icon" have anything to do with >"will be listed in the Arrange window". Seems like an extremely poor >choice of nomenclature to me... Previously, the flipmenu in the Arrange that allowed you to select the type of track actually showed icons in this list. Sadly, in order to use an Apple-standard hierarchical menu this feature disappeared. So at one time, it wasn't so obtuse to turn off/on an Environment object's icon in order to have it appear in the Arrange's flipmenu. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>
Viewed 837 times, 0 replies, 15 messages in thread. Reply to this message. Read this thread.
From: Clive Young <witsend@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 at 11:54:50 PM
Subject: Re: CPU Load while using Powercore or UAD increased in 6.4?
Message #160691
This is a reply to #160688.
The UAD v3.4 currently has serious problems with CPU Host Load on Mac. Double what it should be on G4s and up to 6 times on G5s. They claim it is fixed with v3.5 which was due for release yesterday. UAD are hopeless at meeting deadlines and for keeping customers informed. I await the fix with a great deal of cynicism. Cheers Clive Young
Viewed 695 times, 0 replies, 3 messages in thread. Reply to this message. Read this thread.
From: "f-erenc szabo" <zerobeat@...>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 at 12:03:36 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] FILM SCORING - CHUNKS
Message #160692
This is a reply to #160657.
At 15:47 Uhr +0000 31.03.2004, rsadoff wrote: >>Digital Performer has a function where a sequence can be saved as a >>"Chunk". The advantage to this is that the chunk can be moved >>anywhere and still retain its tempo changes, meter changes, clear bar >>designations, etc. Hans Hafner <hanshafner@...> writes: >That would be a very handy feature, did you send it to emagic? I know I will! It's a feature request from me (and likely others) from 1993, but it still needs to be wished for again and again. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" <http://home.goodmedia.com/~zerobeat>
Viewed 817 times, 0 replies, 6 messages in thread. Reply to this message. Read this thread.
From: "Andy M." <andywanders@...>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 at 12:45:17 AM
Subject: Re: Deleting (Really) Audio Regions
Message #160693
This is a reply to #160683.
"J. Arthur Lee" <stellar808@c...> wrote: > I have deleted some audio regions out of a piece, but each time I open > the file Logic inquires about the location of the files. I do not plan > to use them again and I would like to avoid the queries. How do I tell > Logic that I really did mean to delete those regions...forever? If the files are already deleted from your hard drive, then open the Audio Window - From the edit menu, choose "Select unused" - then choose "Clear" (also edit menu). That should do it..!
Viewed 686 times, 0 replies, 3 messages in thread. Reply to this message. Read this thread.
From: "markdvc2002" <mark@...>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 at 1:02:50 AM
Subject: [OT] Frankfurt Musikmesse
Message #160694
I was wondering if any Luggers will be at the Frankfurt show this Saturday. It would be nice to be able to meet up. Please mail me privately. kind regards Mark Cahill
Viewed 776 times, 0 replies, 1 message in thread. Reply to this message. Read this thread.
From: Mati <zurich.enteract@...>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 at 12:09:53 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] XSKEY Logic 6 Pro Update
Message #160695
>> They worked like a charm. >> >> Cheers. >> GN >> >> Same here - everything is working perfectly. Hats off to Emagic for getting us back in business so quickly! /m
Viewed 953 times, 0 replies, 1 message in thread. Reply to this message. Read this thread.
From: Per Boysen <per@...>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 at 1:07:07 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Deleting (Really) Audio Regions
Message #160696
This is a reply to #160683.
On 04-04-01 07.12, "J. Arthur Lee" <stellar808@...> wrote: > I have deleted some audio regions out of a piece, but each time I open > the file Logic inquires about the location of the files. I do not plan > to use them again and I would like to avoid the queries. How do I tell > Logic that I really did mean to delete those regions...forever? > > John Lee Maybe you only deleted the regions in the arrange window and forgot about the audio window? I sometimes make that mistake myself. Press cmnd 9 for audio window and delete any file reference not needed for the song. Best wishes Per Boysen -- www.boysen.se www.looproom.com
Viewed 675 times, 0 replies, 3 messages in thread. Reply to this message. Read this thread.
From: Per Boysen <per@...>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 at 1:17:17 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Automation of Output 1-2 - Manually Adding to Arrange
Message #160697
This is a reply to #160676.
On 04-04-01 05.05, "Brian Pylant" <bappo@...> wrote: >> Makes perfect sense to me because then the Adaptive Track Mixer will >> not >> become astronomically huge ;-) > > What I meant by "obtuse" is: what does "icon" have anything to do with > "will be listed in the Arrange window". Seems like an extremely poor > choice of nomenclature to me... Yes, I agree. But I kind of got used to it from using Logic for more than a decade ;-) Best wishes Per Boysen -- www.boysen.se www.looproom.com
Viewed 851 times, 0 replies, 15 messages in thread. Reply to this message. Read this thread.
From: "Jules Bromley" <jules@...>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 at 1:08:02 AM
Subject: [OT] Bob Katz - Mastering Audio (was Re: the future of bouncing/voodoo)
Message #160698
This is a reply to #160654.
<Admin - please reply privately, or to the OT list> Hi Robert > I'm currently recording a demo and am probably going to > master it myself, in hopes that later, some label will pay > for a mastering pro to do it. Would you recommend Bob's book > for me, or is it too deep? I personally believe everybody involved in audio production at any level should own and read Bob's book. Yes some of it is heavy going and fairly technical, but there are some fairly complex issues to address in the world of digital audio, and Bob does it with authority as well as keeping the details as digestible as possible. There's also a load of stuff which is just fascinating, great tips on preparation of media, some interesting gear comparisons etc. Plus he challenges lots of current practices and beliefs, like our communal obsession with squashing the f*** out of mixes in order to make them as loud as possible, the truth about jitter, samplerates etc. There's a great section on monitoring as well, and much of the content is as relevant to production and mixing as it is to mastering. I could go on all day. It sits by my mixer every day and is regularly referred to. One problem - be prepared for a serious case of GIS (Gear Inadequacy Syndrome) after you've read it! Actually he's not about telling everybody to buy the biggest and best, but you will undoubtedly uncover some shortcomings in your studio, I certainly did. Hope this helps. Jules PS. I promise I have nothing to do with the great man, in case anybody suspects I have a vested interest!
Viewed 835 times, 1 reply, 10 messages in thread. Reply to this message. Read this thread.
From: Fernstudio <fernstudio@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 at 12:56:26 PM
Subject: RE: [LUG] [GEN] Logic Crash Scanning Path References
Message #160699
Hi George George Leger III wrote, > Try taking out your autoload. I've seen this exact issue when an > autoload went south (corrupted). I've done this and removed all preferences but it still dies. I may try reinstalling later but I would really like to know which path references it is checking so I could know for sure what's going on. I tried running different versions of Logic Pro/Platinum 6.x and all crash at the same point. I have an old copy of 5.5.1 as well and that copy will run without a crash. Thanks for your suggestion. Fernstudio
Viewed 838 times, 0 replies, 1 message in thread. Reply to this message. Read this thread.
From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@...>
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 at 1:46:34 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: Reason to use Input Objects?
Message #160700
This is a reply to #160685.
Howard Wooten wrote: > Sounds like you have "direct monitoring" or "zero latency monitoring" enabled. > The M-Audio control panel should have a setting to defeat that. I'm pretty much sure there's such a setting, too. (and btw., hi again Howard - I never have been completely away, just pretty much busy) Anyways, Brian, as I don't know which sort of FX you'd like to use during tracking I'm not sure if this is of some help to you, but I used to use one of these methods on my old PC where I couldn't achieve a latency low enough to run the complete signal throug Logic. That would be necessary if you'd want to monitor through any of Logics "dynamic" FX (in this case anything that the complete signal has to run through, such as overdrives, compressors, EQs, autofilters and so on). However, if you, like me, would only like to add the occasional "room" FX, such as a bit of reverb, delay, modulation or whatever, here's what might do the job: Note: In both scenarios you would just leave direct monitoring on to listen to the dry signal, running straight through your card. 1) Setup a send on the track you're recording on. The send is just running into whatever FX bus you like. Set this send to "pre". Record enable the desired track and pull the fader all the way down. Now pull up the send volume. As a result you will hear a dry signal through your soundcards monitoring, pretty much without any latency (well, there's some converter latency, but usually that's pretty much small enough), plus a part of the signal running through your favourite Logic room FX. Just the perfect thing for vocals, gits etc, where you may add some dynamic FX later on as well but don't necessarily need them for tracking. You can of course add as many pre-fader sends as you like. 2) A bit more complexed, plus you need at least a little mixing console and one free input on your soundcard. Run your dry signal into the card and into Logic just as usual. Again, when in record mode, drag the audio object slider all the way down. Now setup an input object using no output. Keep the level at 0dB or so. Setup as much sends to your favourite Logic FX (no need to set the send to "pre" this time) as you like. Now use the free input of your card to feed this input object. The best way would be to feed it from some mixing console's FX send, but I also got good results without a mixer, just splitting, say, my PODs signal to input 1 and 2, using input 1 to feed the track I wanted to record on, input 2 to feed the input object. In this scenario the input objects fader is working as a master FX send control. These days I'm using method 2 in a 10 channel setup, along with a mixer, the signal path is like this: - Inputs 1-8 are fed straight from the mixer D.I. outs. - Input 9 is fed by a pre fader send, for additional recordings, as you get easier monitoring control than by using a D.I. out. - Input 10 is fed by a "normal" (read: post-fader) send, running into an input object, configured as described above. With this setup I don't need any hardware monitoring FX but can just add them in Logic. I do have full control off my input, monitoring and FX levels through the mixer, which IMO is a bit more convenient than doing these things in Logic (Oh well, I'm just switching to monitor through the Hammerfall, but that's another story). Also, with this setup I can easily set my latency to a higher setting, since I would still monitor the dry part of the signal through my hardware. The few additional milliseconds higher latency settings add to my input object's FX sends IMO are irrelevant for tracking, as long as I can listen to the dry signal straight. Regards, Sascha
Viewed 684 times, 1 reply, 4 messages in thread. Reply to this message. Read this thread.
jump to beginning previous thread #6427 Showing Logic-users Digest 6428 of 9850 next thread #6429 jump to end

Forum Index | Read LUG: Policy/Rules Messages Threads Digests | Post New Message | Search!


© 1994-2008, All Rights Reserved.