> > A part, yes. A large part, No. I doubt you will notice the >> difference. Still the ADAT card is worth having. OTOH its too bad >> Yamaha is so slow getting it's shit together with mLan or you could >> just use an mLan card direct from the O1-V and get rid of the stinky >> 001 altogether. What is the buffer setting on the OO1? > >its at 2048 That is your latency problem right there. You need to set that at the lowest setting it can be on your system and check out how it works. It may work perfectly or you may need to increase it. What you need to do is set the buffer at the lowest setting you can and see if everything plays back OK without clicks pops and system overload messages. If it does then you are set. If it does not then you will have to bump it up to a higher setting. Setting the buffer is a matter of making a trade of between performance issues and latency. The performance issues including things like clicking and popping, live input effects performance, live input virtual synthesizer voice count etc..., I don't know about the 001 or your system but the fastest drivers existing right now allow a setting of 32 samples. But realistically even on a fast machine you will not get away with using the 32 sample setting without getting some clicks and pops.

At 20:36 Uhr +0000 on 29.11.2003 Mike Levon (Holyground Records) wrote: >K9 Kai Niggemann wrote: > >> cpu usage seems to be WAY higher under OSX than under OS9 > >Try *adding* audio tracks - In OS9 I had similar results when there >were a small number of >tracks, and with nore it settled back (down), well I think it goes up to about 70% on the first track and then stays there until it actually does reach more than 70%. But it's not just the meter that is broken, it actually drains a lot of CPU (at least when I last tried it with 10.2 and Logic 6.x (not 6.3!). The mouse gets all jumpy and it shows all symptoms of an overloading machine. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- canine_at_waf80_dot_de good night europe. <your name here> http://kainiggemann.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------

At 22:46 Uhr +0000 on 29.11.2003 darealbasoski wrote: >We have a G5 in the office, I really should check how Logic behaves on that, >it's probably the G4 processor that can't handle Panther well enough. I doubt that, I am using Panther on my secondary machine, a Tibook 500 with great results. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- canine_at_waf80_dot_de good night europe. <your name here> http://kainiggemann.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------

> Has anyone else noticed that Logic under OS X seems to run slower? > I have experienced a noticable slowdown in simple operations such as > creating new > tracks, copying and even just selecting parts in the arrange page. > This is very > frustrating and really does affect the working flow. I have asked > emagic about this and > I'm told there's no reason this should be happening. > Yes, I've noticed the same. I'm on a G4/800 with 1,5 GB RAM and 2 HD's. I find it much slower than OS 9. It has become much better than the first releases, although now (with OS X 10.3 or the latest Logic updates, I don't know what's the problem) I find it has become more slowly again. Especially the GUI, and like you say, selecting parts may take quite a while. Copying, moving is the same story. It's a drag. There's not really a flow. Other apps I use don't have this, so I guess the problem is in Logic. Remco

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "jonathankek2000" <jonathankek2000@y...> > > I'd love to know your set-up, because I'm using the G5 DP under OS > 10.3.2 and Logic 6.3.2. The UAD-1 is less than spectacular. It seems > to use up a lot of CPU and spikes on me when using more than just a > few UAD-1 plug-ins. I think there are still issues with UAD-1 and the G5. Pretty stable on the Dual g4 800. It also seems to use the native CPU less than under OS9. I managed to get up to 90% on the UAD CPU with both native CPU meters on 95% Impressive Regards Stephen

What's up with these two devices? Has Emagic stopped with their Logic control? And if so, why? Because of Mackie? And is the Mackie Control Universal the same, or are there differences? What would you advise to buy (when using LAMP 6 with MacOS X 10.3, with Emagic softsynths and EXS24)? Remco

> >it's probably the G4 processor that can't handle Panther well enough. > > I doubt that, I am using Panther on my secondary machine, a Tibook > 500 with great results. Hm, in that case, I dunno:) I do use panther to write this reply, on an Ibook 600, but that's only a G3. OSX is so amazingly beautiful and handy, with the whole intergration of addressbook/email/calender/Ichat etc. But Logic stays on the OS9 machine for now! O.

> What's up with these two devices? Has Emagic stopped with their Logic > control? And if so, why? Because of Mackie? And is the Mackie Control > Universal the same, or are there differences? What would you advise to > buy (when using LAMP 6 with MacOS X 10.3, with Emagic softsynths and > EXS24)? > > > Remco I believe Emagic and Mackie have reached an agreement whereby all systems now work the same such that old LC set-ups can be updated to work with other apps, Mackie Controls can be updated to work with Logic and the MC Universal has all firmware/software for 'both' pre-installed. HTH Tony Perretta

Remco Muntz <rmuntz@...> writes: >What's up with these two devices? Has Emagic stopped with their Logic >control? And if so, why? Because of Mackie? And is the Mackie Control >Universal the same, or are there differences? What would you advise to >buy (when using LAMP 6 with MacOS X 10.3, with Emagic softsynths and >EXS24)? If you don't intend on using the controller with anything except Logic, then get the cheaper Logic Control. However, it can be updated to do what the Mackie Control does (probably costing about as much as the difference in price between them). Once the Logic Control sells out, I doubt any more will be made. No matter, because Mackie Control does everything plus more (because of the recent addition of functionality giving it the "Universal" name). Both machines were always the same anyway, except with different firmware inside. And different silkscreen graphics. (you can get a Lexan overlay for the host software of your choice: DP, Logic, ProTools, Cubase etc....) f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"

I am happily running my Logic Control and XT with both Logic and DP thanks to the firmware update on Mackies website. You can purchase a chip to give you V2 and HUI mode, but you only need it for HUI mode. The free update gives you full Logic or Mackie Control modes, selectable on boot up. Paul

"travelboy_berlin" <dennis78@...> wrote: >Hi! I have a problem with routing back data to the Physical >Input in the environment. I can't answer your problem directly, but I'm very interested in what you have found because I am doing the same thing except routing the data to a setup of MidiPipe (a separate application) and back into Logic. I did not know that you could cable it into the Physical Input. Indeed I think I tried to do this already using controllers and it did not work, which is when I got MidiPipe to do it for me. But you say Notes work? Hmmm. Why don't you use Notes, but keep them on a Midi channel that you don't use from your master keyboard or other midi devices? You could use a Channel Splitter after the Phys In to make sure no stray notes on that channel get through. It may be, if you have Automation Quick Access enabled, that the controllers are being filtered off before getting to the Phys In? Have you tried Program Change messages? I have a problem in that Logic repeats indefinitely some Midi commands that I send it. "Select Next Track", for example, occasionally sends the selection right down to the bottom track of the arrange window. Some commands, like "Toggle Loop", freeze Logic in a repetitive loop of toggling. You should be OK with your song position commands, though, they seem to work fine. Cheers, Stephen.

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> Hi Cyril, > On 11/29/03 3:43 AM, "Scott Price" <cpmusique@...> wrote: >> i just got a dual 2-gig G5.... rocks as far as performance....but I >> get >> random, total machine freezeups for no apparent reason, even while >> not >> interfacing with the machine at all (ex: while it's just playng a >> logic >> track). Seems to happen fairly often when copying files from one disk >> to another (tip: I think journaling is a good thing to enable on >> disks.... I actually lost data on some drives due to freezes before I >> enabled it on all of them). >> >> I use 10.3.1...perhaps I should have partitioned and left a 10.2.8 >> system on the disk... > yes, I added one gig of RAM. I ran the test CD that came with it, everything tests OK.... I have a hunch there is a power supply issue... thanks, scott

> Hi Scott, > > You mention copying from one disk to the other . . . . . exactly what > do you have > hooked up there? Also, by total freezeup . . .do you mean you are not > able to force > quit out of any programs? The mouse and keyboard are also dead? Have > you installed > any 3rd party ram? Hi Jon, Just copying from one internal drive to another internal drive...total mouse and system freeze, cannont force quit, have to press the power button and reboot. Also in logic, could be playing happily away, then same total freeze except accompanied by a high pitched whine coming from the audio card (hammerfall) outputs. I don't think it has to do with the card, as I had the same behaviour before installing it (used AD-8000 firewire). All diagnostic tests from the apple CD come up OK ; yes 1 Gig xtra ram. > > My dual 2gig G5 has been rock soild with Logic and all other programs. Must be a gas, because as I said, whem it's working the performance is awesome... > best, > Jon > CU, Scott

> Hi Jon, > > Just copying from one internal drive to another internal drive...total > mouse and system freeze, cannont force quit, have to press the power > button and reboot. Also in logic, could be playing happily away, then > same total freeze except accompanied by a high pitched whine coming > from the audio card (hammerfall) outputs. I don't think it has to do > with the card, as I had the same behaviour before installing it (used > AD-8000 firewire). All diagnostic tests from the apple CD come up OK ; > yes 1 Gig xtra ram. > > > > Must be a gas, because as I said, whem it's working the performance is > awesome... > Scott Hi Scott, Sorry to hear about your ongoing woes. Is the additional hard drive one that was installed by Apple at the time of purchase? What brand of 3rd party ram did you install? Would it be possible to remove any and all hardware (ram, drives, pci cards etc.) that didn't ship with the computer and run a simple test with Logic simply using coreaudio? It sure *sounds* like some funky hardware compatibility issue. best, Jon

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "xavdav" <xtrad@y...> wrote: > I'm travelling so I can't check it out myself until Monday. > > How's it working? So far, it works just as advertised, I love it! I never ran it under OS9, so I can't compare it to that. ***BUT***, I can no longer properly put my G4 to sleep, the monitor goes out but the fan stays on. I have heard one other person has the same problem. A pain, but worth it... -smeet

Is somebody here to help me with some problems with my new Motu-soundcart and Logic? If this is too far out of topic, you can mail me private evertscholten@... Thanks!

On 29/11/2003, at 4:49, sc@... wrote: > Greetings, > > Here's my issue: the channel strip doesn't compact in the Arrange > Window > like it ought to, and like it does in Environment. It goes off the > bottom > of the Arrange screen, so that I can't see the stereo-L-R-Mono button > and > can't read the meter properly. > > Yes, Emagic should really have fixed this by now. The only solution I have found is to create a new document and then rebuild your autoload (which could be quite a hassle depending on how elaborate your autoload is). This will reset the Channel Strip to the biggest audio object (with the most plugs inserted). Unfortunately I don't know any way to correct this problem on older songs. Tom

> From: "jon13111971" <jon131171@...> > > Has anyone else noticed that Logic under OS X seems to run slower? > I have experienced a noticable slowdown in simple operations such as > creating new > tracks, copying and even just selecting parts in the arrange page. > This is very > frustrating and really does affect the working flow. I have asked > emagic about this and > I'm told there's no reason this should be happening. Yes, the 'snapiness' of the 9-version is definitly gone. But I like the lightning-fast 'next-window' command in OSX. Switching between two windows (arrange&environment) is instant now, because of the way OSX uses the graphiccards. I think a lot of things will change in the future: look, streamlining of user-interface, faster in basic functions (as you mentioned, copy takes too long), version number. > I'm running 6.3 on a g4 PB 800 with a gig RAM. G4/733/1GIG, LAM 6.3.2, UAD-1, Metric Halo ULN-2 cheers, bernd

I'm using Windows 98SE and have Logic Audio Gold v4.8 installed. I'm considering upgrading the operating system to Windows XP. The question is will Logic Audio Gold v4.8 run under XP. I searched the archives and FAQ's but couldn't find the answer to above question thanks Ted Parrett

hello, >> --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fisher <jefisher@v...> wrote: >>> Can anyone comfirm this bug: Altiverb IR selection window refuses >>> to open in Logic 6.31 on 10.3 on a Dual G4 1.25G (Dual boot). > --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "drgruv1" <drgruv1@y...> wrote: >> Yep. mine here too >> downloaded a new copy reinstalled and re-authorized and still the >> same problem... i emailed tech support tonight, will post results >> 10.3.1 panther on 733 g4 On Nov 29, 2003, at 6:49 PM, jon9091 wrote: > Let me throw out a guess here. You've set your display prefs to > "thousands" instead of "millions"? me too, but now it's working, this is what i did: repaired permissions - did not work reinstalled altiverb, with newer version - did not work reinstalled logic 6.3.2, i do not keep logic in the boot partition, opened the boot partition logic - it worked. opened the copy of logic that i keep in a music projects partition - it worked. erased the boot partition copy of logic (the just installed copy) - it worked. now it's working. i would say it either: has to do with the installation of panther. has to do with some of the maintenance routines panther runs at night. has to do with the fact that logic installer changes some of the permissions that have to do with the accessing of the (altiverb) ir files. warm regards. vico vico@... sonido mambo atletas 2 edificio luis buñuel c307 estudios churubusco azteca col. country club mexico d.f. 04220 tel mex 5255 5549 7869, 5255 5549 3060 x 208

Still has some bugs to be worked out, OS 9 is a no go, OS X possibly. Do a search of the group.

Ciao, Would our seasoned Logic veterans be able to offer any advice on elegant management of takes? I wish that Logic offered "explodable" (politically incorrect term, surely) takes, where one track could easily be expanded to show its component takes for easy comping, and then compacted again to visually occupy only a single track's space. I believe C****e has such an implementation? It seems that the closest option in Logic is either the use of Track Folders, or the use of the Hide function. Neither of these is ideal to me, as the Folder opens into another window, whereas I would like to see the takes in the context of the full song arrangement. The Hide function, on the other hand, hides and shows ALL hidden tracks at once, rather than those relating to a specific take set. Is there another approach within Logic? How do other users manage the inevitable track proliferation involved when recording multiple takes of many different performances? Thank you for any insight. Best, 3

you must have logic 4.8.1 (vol. 13). this you can get by calling emagic. then, if logic freezes up, you have to make some changes to your machine. ive posted the proccess below. this was a lifesaver, and i dont think i ever thanked the guy that posted this, so if youre listening jazz-e, thanks! noah www.noahwarner.com Another thing this might be that has beed mentioned quite a bit in the forum is ACPI. Some of the older motherboards weren't designed with this new function in XP. If you have a motherboard or OEM (Dell, Compaq, Gateway, HP, etc..) that came with Windows ME or 98 pre-installed (or bought pre-2000) then this is probably the problem. Go into the device Manager (right click on My computer and select properties, click the hardware tab then Device Manager) and click the + drop down memu on computer tab above disk drives. You should see ACPI Multiprocessor PC. Right click on that and select update driver. A menu will open, select install from a specific location then next. Now select Don't search, I will choose the driver to install. Now you should have 2 or 4 choices to choose from (depending on how old the motherboard is). Highlight Standard PC then hit next. Follow the rest of the directions and allow it to restart. You might have to re-install a couple of drivers but I found I didn't have to on the numerous times I did this. Hope fully this should fix your problem with the asio overflows along with compatibility issues. Please read the following articles to understand more about XP and DAW (Digital Audio Workstation). http://www.opusaudioprojects.net/Articles.htm http://www.musicxp.net/ Hope this helps Jazz-e www.jazz-e.com

I've been using this card for Audio Instruments and have had nothing but trouble free performance.None of the noise, pops , clicks etc that you get with other cards.I haven't attempted any kind of complex audio recordings though. Paul www.paullawler.org