On Friday, October 31, 2003, at 12:56 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Look out for the Glitch in Panther! > > http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,61031,00.html/wn_ascii > > "After upgrading to Mac OS X 10.3, better known as Panther, they are > finding > external FireWire drives are no longer recognized by the host machine. > In > many cases, all the data the drives stores are also gone." If I recall, Apple has narrowed it down to Oxford 912 chipsets which are FireWire 800, so FireWire 400 drives should be unaffected. Double check though. Take care Jesse Widener

I am about to bite the bullet and upgrade from Logic 4.8.1, a G4/400 with a Digi 001 and an MT4 to hopefully the G5 1.8 and the most recommended midi and audio interface. Would really like to hear from satisfied users as to what they would replace the MT 4 with (if anything) and more specifically, the Digi 001? I have heard good things about M-Audio products, also the RME Hammerfall card. Appreciate any first-hand opinions. Simon Binks.

[Admin - please reply privately, ot to the LUG - OT group.] I just bought a G4 Powerbook - installed and transferred all my software to it then within days it died on me. It was classed as a DOA. The company I bought it from and Apple has agreed it is a DOA the problem it takes up to 4 days to give me a replacement cause of all the red tape. I find this bizarre. I have applecare cover too. Is there some other cover that people are using to ensure that you are not without a machine for such a length of time ?

Hi gang, We had a string a while ago about disk fragmentation, and one voice stated that with OSX or "modern operating systems" it was no longer necessary or desirable to defrag your drives. I couldn't see the logic in that statement, so I contacted Alsoft, the makers of Disk Warrior and Plus Optimizer, asked him if defragging was desirable in OSX, and here is his reply: "Unix will install files sporadically throughout the disk. This helps reduce file fragmentation but not disk fragmentation. OS X performs the same kind of installation procedure as mentioned above. While this may help file fragmentation it does not help disk fragmentation and the fragmentation of free space. The more spread out the files become the more disk activity you will have and the less contiguous free space you will have. This sporadic placement of files could pose a problem for people working with video and/or audio files as well as users needing large amounts of contiguous free space. Running a disk optimizer will lessen disk activity, speed up file access, and free up contiguous free space. PlusOptimizer v2.0, our native X version, is currently in development. We have not set a release date for PlusOptimizer v2.0 but if you like you could add your name to our mailing list so you can be notified when the new version has been released. The mailing list is at <http:// www.alsoft.com/listmanagement.html>. If you have any additional questions please feel free to contact us. -- Mike Rogers Alsoft Tech Support www.Alsoft.com

I believe it's only Firewire 800 Drives that are are affected. This from Apple: http://www.apple.com/macosx/firewire800specialmessage.html Cheers Clive Young

Hi Simon, On Oct 31, 2003, at 1:18 PM, Simon Binks wrote: > Would really like to hear from satisfied users as to what they > would replace the MT 4 with (if anything) and more specifically, > the Digi 001? I'm absolutely happy with my Unitor8/AMT8 combo. > > I have heard good things about M-Audio products, also the RME > Hammerfall card. I personally wouldn't buy anything from M-Audio as I really hate their sound quality. OTOH, Mobile IO is the best choice IMNSHO, and if it's too expensive for your budget, RME is not bad either. Just my $0.02. Best, Andy

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, pdm <pdm@a...> wrote: > ... > So I am trying to do an offlince bounce of a track in > Logic 6.3.1 on a G4 733 768MB RAM and I am getting this > error message: "Deep Architechture - Please unpack some > folders!". > ... > Any ideas appreciated! Thanks! Did you try the alert box suggestion ... unpacking some of the deeper folders? I did briefly experiment with using folders (and folders within folders) on WinLogic, but found that logic was sometimes choking on the resulting structures, and was sometimes doing very wierd things like claiming that structures had been corrupted, or that it was suddenly finding recursive structures where there shouldn't have been any. :( So now I try not to rely on them too much, except for very simple stuff, and try to avoid nesting.

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Gunn <dennis@s...> wrote: > > .. > >Sounds like an afternoon's work for someone. > > I really wish we could copy channels too and it is something I have > lobbied for for a long time but We who are not writing this stuff are > on very shaky ground when we begin to speculate on what is going to > be easy for those writing it to implement. The reason why it ought to be easy is that you can already copy and paste and paste-replace mixer objects via the clipboard. So if the clipboard is holding entire self-contained objects rather than just pointers (pointers on the clipboard for this would be flaky IMO), then it /ought/ to be simple. I mean, if that really is how it works, you could probably even write a simple third-party helper application to do it. ==example=Select Mixer object. Press Ctrl-C to copy the object to the clipboard. Use the helper app to identify and read the self-contained clipboard object (clipboard objects have helpful ID labels), alter the channel number (checksumming, if necessary), and paste it back. Press Ctrl-V to paste the modified mixer object (with its new channel number) back into logic, either as a new object or to overwrite another selected object. And the Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V stuff could probably be automated by the helper app by sending logic the appropriate key commands (and waiting for the clipboard to respond, in the case of Ctrl-C), so you could open the helper window and click a "copy object" button, and a "paste to" button, and have a display textbox holding the number that the object was going to be pasted as. And while you had the helper app running, you might as well also give it the ability to load and save those clipboard data blocks to disk with a short friendly descriptive header (probably in RIFF format), and an appropriate filename suffix (".LMX"?). = So if logic's method of accessing the clipboard is straightforward, it ought to be easy. Obviously its going to be better if the function is built into logic rather us having to use a third party program to do it, but if emagic really aren't interested, we might have other options.

macaroni@... writes: > I recently upgraded to Platinum 6.3.1 for OS 9.2.2 and I've got some > strange graphics behavior that has never been there with any previous versions. > > What happens is you try to click on an item in any window...  Arrange, > Mixer, etc and > the mouse doesn't actually click where it's placed.  I have to positionthe > mouse a bit > above the graphic, eg: Insert or Send, in order to display the pop up menu > for selection.  Also some things don't redraw until I use the window shade to > re-display the window.  This doesn't happen in Panther, which is very fast by the way. > > Has anyone else had these problems? > GOD BLESS YOU!!! I have been having this annoyance. Here's what's happening... I'll normalize gain on some audio in the audio editor window, and i don't get to see the results unless i windowshade. There must be some graphics issue with LAP 6. I didn't have that problem in LAP 5. And as far as Panther, Logic doesn't seem as "snappy" as it is in OS9. 800DP G4 80gig HD 768RAM OSX.3 OS9.22 Dj/Producer (Grammy nominated) Dj3d-The Underground Railroad Wbai - 99.5fm Sat's From 12 Mid - 2 Am 120 Wall St 10th Floor http://www.btownsound.com/featured/dj3d.asp http://www.rawroots.co.uk/dj3d.shtml The Courts Production Co. AOL IM - dj3dquick

On 10/31/03 4:37 PM, "Clive Young" <witsend@...> wrote: > I believe it's only Firewire 800 Drives that are are affected. > Unfortunately my drive falls in that category. Here is an extensive read and workaround. http://www.macfixit.com/index.php CWB

am experiencing a strange recurring problem: frequently, quite often after freezing a track or bouncing, the USB keyboard just stops working. it has to be unplugged and then reconnected to work again. then after this has happened, usually after about 5-10 more minutes working, all of the audio just stops playing completely, as if you had pressed the solo button with nothing selected. no level meters move, but the transport works as normal. just reinitialising the audio engine doesn't fix it, have to restart logic from scratch.. ??? anyone else having similar probs?? G4 867 quicksilver / OS 9.2.2 / LAMP 6.3.1 / digi 888 24 i/o using direct i/o driver / UAD-1 with latest driver / regards, antonio gambale

Zenon Marko wrote: > Thank for the response. > The common element among Logic/PCI324 users who are experiencing the > kernel panics seems to be the use of external sync. Since you are > using internal sync, you may be averting some trouble in this manner. > (Snipped by Admin) >> The move to Panther is on hold until i found out if the PCI-324 works >> ok on that OSX upgrade. If not i will upgrade >> to the PCI-424. For the price I like the AD/DA converters on the MOTU >> 1296 so i will try to keep using it until i can afford to upgrade >> to better (A lot more money) converters. >> As i mentioned in my previous post I have every thing working solid on >> OSX 10.2.6 / PCI-324. >> I think something is not mixing well with the PCI-324-Any driver and >> OSX after Vers. 10.2.8 >> >> Best regards, >> Rafael Logic 6.3.1, with the PCI-424 upgrade and Panther is the dream combo. Fast, rock solid, and gorgeous to look at and work with. If you have the $, get out of PCI-324 and Jaguar, you won't regret it. James

Per Boysen wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Look out for the Glitch in Panther! > > http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,61031,00.html/wn_ascii > > "After upgrading to Mac OS X 10.3, better known as Panther, they are finding > external FireWire drives are no longer recognized by the host machine. In > many cases, all the data the drives stores are also gone." I've got an external FW drive with Panther and its working fine...rock solid since the upgrade on Friday. What host machine are we talking about here? Mine's a dual boot, dual 1.25 G4, 2 gig memory, Atto card with two cheetahs and the LaCie 200 gig FW drive. JR

Hey. I'm a new Logic user and I was wondering if Logic Audio has any mastering programs? How do I get my tracks to CD level? They're so quiet. Also, has anyone else had problems using MOTU's 828mkII with Logic 6? I can't get it to record in anything but 44.1. Thanks guys!

HI, I recently purchased Logic Platinum 6.3 and I was wondering what is up with the exs24 mkII..I read that it is built into Logic, but I also read it is optional. So...whats up?

> From: Clive Young <witsend@...> > I believe it's only Firewire 800 Drives that are are affected. > > This from > Apple: http://www.apple.com/macosx/firewire800specialmessage.html > > Cheers > Clive Young Some people seem to be having problems with 400 drives as well. I have a LaCie d2 fw800 drive that has has no problems, on two different machines. More info http://www.lacie.com/news/news.htm?id059 Also my drive does not fall within the serial number range that they show problems with, 0133xxxxx -andy

> From: Andy Hardwake <digitalmechanics@...> > I personally wouldn't buy anything from M-Audio as I really hate their sound > quality. OTOH, Mobile IO is the best choice IMNSHO, and if it's too > expensive for your budget, RME is not bad either. Just my $0.02. I have had great result with a M-Audio Delta 66 and usb midisport. Sounds good to me -andy

On Friday, October 31, 2003, at 01:18 PM, methinked@... wrote: > If I recall, Apple has narrowed it down to Oxford 912 chipsets which are > FireWire 800, so FireWire 400 drives should be unaffected. Double check > though. Pardon me...Oxford 922 chipsets...and several drive manufacturer's have already released a firmware update. Take care Jesse Widener

> my G4 15" book the internal drive read/writes at > 26MB/sec, whereas the external LaCie Firewire drive is at 32 MB/sec > both r/w. That is 20% faster... To my observation LaCie have the > fastest drives, so beware of cheapo boxes. Exactly what I wanted to know.. Cheers! Arvid

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "fstory2000" <fstory@c...> wrote: > > I use the Audiophile USB on my home setup and have had no problems with it at all. > Running Logic 6.2 on a Dual 1.42 G$, OS 10.2.6. My only criticism is that it makes a > rather loud pop/glitch sound when you re-boot, so I have to remember to turn it > down. Otherwise, no complaints. > Hi Fred Story, I have recently installed a USB card into my beige G3 and upgraded the OS 8 to 9. The reason I've done that is because I've also purchased an Audiophile USB, which I've also installed into the G3 successfully. I'm running Logic Gold 3.5.3 on my computer... Could you please advise the steps to configure the Logic to read the Audiophile please? Many thanks. PJ

<discussion of Panther vs> Firewire headache snipped> > > In > > many cases, all the data the drives stores are also gone." > > If I recall, Apple has narrowed it down to Oxford 912 chipsets which are > FireWire 800, so FireWire 400 drives should be unaffected. Double check > though. Actually it is the Oxford 922 chipsets and I believe the 1.0.2 firmware. More than one manufacturer has the problem, not just LaCie. Bob Vandiver

Sorry, Logic 7 exists, they are on the Apple timeline of updates you know.

The 828mkII has been working great here forth Midi and Audio in OS X, the M-Audio Firewire 410 appears to be a processor hog.

In the Logic Control demo I noticed marker that had different colors. Does anyone know how to do that? Cheers! John Oliver http://earsay.com/oliver/

Hi- I have LAP 5, upgraded from 4, so i have the version 4 manual, the 5 upgrade books, and some old CDs. I ordered the LAP 5->6 upgrade from the Apple Store (3-4 weeks shipping time!!! what's up with that?) but I am wondering if if comes with a current manual or just another "upgrade" manual) - even a pdf version of a full manual for version 6 would be ok. I called emagic sales and they couldn't tell me what came with the upgrade. I am just learning Logic, so learning version 6 (which i just activated for the demo period) from a version 4 manual is a little confusing (or perhaps the manuals are just opaque in general)