> My question is how do I connect all of this together correctly, i.e. > there is USB on ALL the devices. Do I connect the keyboard via USB to > the EMI 6|2m, likewise with the XV5050 then the XV5050 to the G4 via > USB. I find organizing all this stuff much easier to understand if I have a single point of entry into my computer via USB. Sure, you could plug all of your devices into the USB hub individually, and that would probably help ease congestion on any individual line (experiences, anybody?) but I've never had trouble with plugging my MIDI/Audio interface into my computer and then everything else into that. If you follow that setup (6|2 into computer, keyboard -MIDI> 6|2, 6|2 -MIDI> XV5050, XV5050 -AUDIO> 6|2, 6|2 -AUDIO> monitors/whatever), you just have to remember that the computer treats the 6|2 as two different devices, audio and midi, even though all the data is going over the same pipe and all the ports on on the same box. Keep this in mind with the following: The data path would be something like this: You press a key on the keyboard. The midi goes to the 6|2, which brings it into Logic's environment (via USB). The environment wires the incoming midi data to an environment object, usually a midi instrument or a midi bank. These environment objects can be the targets of tracks in the arrange page and can record the midi data into your song file. These objects also have a destination routing -- you'll want to rout them to the MIDI out of the 6|2 (again, via USB). Then any midi you play live to that object or any recorded sequences you play back get sent out the 6|2 to your XV5050. the XV5050 makes audio and sends it back to the 6|2. After traveling from the 6|2 over USB to the computer, the sound gets sent by Logic to the environment again, this time as audio. Because it's audio that's come from an audio interface, the environment sends it to an audio input object (that corresponds to the USB audio input of the 6|2). You can now insert effects on the audio, send it to a bus or two, "bounce" it to disk, record it to an audio track, or just pass it out to your monitors. That's all very confusing looking to a beginner, I know, but it makes a lot of sense once you get into the right mind-set. Expect that one day after reading the Logic manual for the third time and reading the LUG you'll have an "ah ha!" moment. Cheers, -Josh Emmons

> > Yeh I have the same question - I have mailed emagic I will let you > know if I get anywhere. I have mailed them many times - unfortunately, I have never received a reply to any question.

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "dougzpro" <dzangar@h...> wrote: > Emagic's infoweb has a possible answer. They basically say get > rid of the Ip6 file and put the Ip5 file in the logic 6 folder. That > worked for me, as I had the Ip5 file available. If you don't, try to > get it from someone or wait for update/fix from emagic. I realize > this is a bit late for your session.... Thanks Doug! Didn't even think of checking infoweb... I figured they'd just send me here for an answer ;-) Rob DeBoer

I have noticed that Battery is only sounding when triggered by notes with a velocity over 25. I did a test by programming 32 notes of the same pitch ie hihat and spreading the velocities 1,3,5,7 etc and the sample only sounded at 25 velocity value and above. Any ideas why? From: roman pirie <romanp@...> Date: Mon Mar 31, 2003 1:10pm Subject: LAM: Oops, I have got all Battery velocities triggering by switching the velocity response to linear In the options I switched to linear and Battery sounds on all velocity levels now. But I have noticed that in linear velocity response mode drums feel wrong. In linear mode most velocities sound the same eg loud. It is very difficult to get some expression as most velocities triggering Battery give an evenly loud sound. Thus curved velocity response mode is much better and has a natural expressive feel from my MIDI controller keyboard. I haven't tryed a percussion controller which may feel differently. But I would assume not. This is an annoying discovery because it means that Battery in it's only useful velocity response mode of 'curved' doesn't sound below velocities of 25. Another shitty problem to add to the many obstacles to a simple friggin drum beat aghhh!

>Are you guys in Europe? Did Europe change from daylight savings time >over the weekend? Check these settings -- and your time zone setting - >- whether or not you are in Europe. I'm in the USA, and it was off by well over an hour. Daylight savings time doesn't switch over for a few more weeks here. I double and triple checked all date/time info as well as re-synced to the apple time server (which my computer does automatically on a daily basis) so i'm almost positive it was not a misconfiguration on my computer. josh

>> Are you guys in Europe? Did Europe change from daylight savings time >> over the weekend? Check these settings -- and your time zone setting >> - >> - whether or not you are in Europe. Joshua R Davison wrote: > I'm in the USA, and it was off by well over an hour. Daylight > savings time doesn't switch over for a few more weeks here. It did in Europe this weekend. Maybe it's programmed in the dongle???? Gert

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@k...> wrote: > to try my version first... Hendrik, Thanks, so much for taking the trouble to post this. I have downloaded and got it running in my computer which is quite happy. I like the idea very much and I'm pretty sure I need to know how many voices I got for this application I'm working on so this was doubly good. Cheers! Scott

> >Are you guys in Europe? Did Europe change from daylight savings time > >over the weekend? Check these settings -- and your time zone setting - > >- whether or not you are in Europe. --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Joshua R Davison <dactile@a...> wrote: > I'm in the USA, and it was off by well over an hour. Daylight > savings time doesn't switch over for a few more weeks here. I double > and triple checked all date/time info as well as re-synced to the > apple time server (which my computer does automatically on a daily > basis) so i'm almost positive it was not a misconfiguration on my > computer. I am in the US as well. I just hope the next time I boot up Logic(which is tonite), that everything is ok. Because even though the logic date was wrong I still said "yes" just so I can proceed. peace

On Monday, March 31, 2003, at 09:05 AM, Sumit Das wrote: > Did any of you use the M-Audio products on a Mac? > How about on OSX? > I muse the Delta 66 Omni I/O on os 9 and OSX. It is a bit weird with logic sometimes, though since V6 most of the problems with midi/audio sync errors are gone. I think the problem was with Emagic's native engine rather than M-Audio's drivers. The drivers seem to work fine with everyone else's software. George -- My home and Logic Tips: http://www.utopiaparkwaymusic.com/ "Reet too tee too tee too tee too tee too teeeeeee" Frank Zappa "All our dreams can come true, if we have the courage to pursue them." - Walt Disney (1901-1966)

Hi there, On Monday, March 31, 2003, at 10:52 PM, Federico Ciapi wrote: > I have just received Logic Gold 5.5 > I had ordered logic Gold 6 from the German dealer > www.musicians-gear.com: they sent me Logic 5 and said that I will be > able to upgrade for free to Logic Gold 6 when it's available. > Is this true? I would think that if they've made that assurance to you then they're under an obligation to deliver on that... with regards, -- Lachlan Deck ldeck@...

Hi there, On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 12:54 AM, Eli Krantzberg wrote: > Hey Score Gurus, > > Quick score question: How come when beams are slanted in the score > window they print out straight? Is there a setting somewhere for this? > Ascending or descending beamed eight notes look fine on screen (slanted > beam) but the printout is not WYSIWYG. It seems to produce "blocky" > straight beams only. That may depend on a few settings I guess - but if you're printing straight from Logic to a connected printer I don't know... You could try printing to PDF first and then printing that out. I've just been printing out some scores over the last week (but my printer is networked via a Linux machine) - and when WYS on screen I not WYG on paper (or even in a PDF file) for mine came down to font and resolution issues. I've been printing to PDF (using PrintToPDF shareware) from OS 9 LAMP 4.8.1... it let's you adjust the resolution of the printout to PDF and whether to include fonts as bitmaps (which is necessary for the JazzFonts) etc Are you using the Logic built in score style of Sonata or something else? with regards, -- Lachlan Deck ldeck@...

> > Yeh I have the same question - I have mailed emagic I will let you > > know if I get anywhere. --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Federico Ciapi <federico.ciapi@t...> wrote: > I have mailed them many times - unfortunately, I have never > received a reply to any question. I've only written to the support address a few times, but I got a response each time, though sometimes it took them a while to reply.. That's weird you never received one. Did you write to support@... or your local Emagic distributor? When I have written to them, they have been very picky about only letting me contact them from the email address I registered Logic to when I first bought it. I emailed them from my work email address once only to have my message returned several days later saying they couldn't find me in their customer database. Just to be safe you could always include your XSKey serial number in your email so they can make sure you are a paying user. Jeremy M

>> I want to be able to select one note ie drum and have that note spread >> across my keyboard at stepped velocity values. On Akai MPCs you can select a >> note and use the 16 levels function to spread the note across the MPCs 16 >> pads at equally graded velocity levels from low to high. > > Create a Transformer. Set Conditions thus: <snip> > Then in the Map, draw the appropriate velocities. If you picked e.g. > notes 48-72 for input, then draw a Map that uses input values 48-72 > (horizontally), and has a 'stepped' output (vertically), like you > would want the velocities for the various notes to be. > Cable the transformer into some instrument or VSTi. Check the > transformer's icon in its parameter pane, and then assign the > transformer to an Arrange track. Select the track, and presto! > In order to easily change the target note (i.e. the actual drumsound > used, like G4 in the above example), cable a Text Fader into the > transformer, and set it's Out definition to be "Meta", with a -1- > value of 127. Now this fader will determine the 'G4' in the above > example. If you only ever use, say, 25 drum sounds on keys 48-72, > you can set the range of the fader to match that. Double click the > fader to pop open the text editor for the object. Check the 'behave > as menu' button, to have it act as a popup instead of a scrolling > fader. Finally enter meaningful text in the fader -- like "bassdrum" > for note 48, and "snare: for note 50, etc. Hi Hendrik, I tryed this and it doesn't produce the results we're after. Have you tryed it? I've spent 20 minutes trying to figure out what the map is actually doing. An importanat piece of information I can give is that each key is still responding to velocity. I have also tryed init and reverse. If I Init then press Reverse I get an opposite velocity response to normal IOW low velocities produce a loud sound and loud velocities produce a quiet sound. Can you try it for yourself and see if it works for you? Roman.

Hi all, When I adjust the spacing at the beginning of a bar, only most of the bars with notes on the first beat actually adjust their indentation, but if there's rest it doesn't seem to move. Anyone got a quick workaround? with regards, -- Lachlan Deck ldeck@...

> >> Are you guys in Europe? Did Europe change from daylight savings > >> time over the weekend? Check these settings -- and your time zone > >> setting - whether or not you are in Europe. > > Joshua R Davison wrote: > > I'm in the USA, and it was off by well over an hour. Daylight > > savings time doesn't switch over for a few more weeks here. --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Gert van Santen" <g.vansanten@c...> wrote: > It did in Europe this weekend. Maybe it's programmed in the dongle???? I doubt it but check your date and time control panel and make sure that your time zone, time and daylight savings time settings are all correct. If you use Windoze I have no idea how to help but... it should be easy. Bob [note from admin: just double click on the clock down in the bottom right corner]

How do I sign the environment Arpeggiator to a single channel of a multi instrument? - I can't work out how to signal which of the Multi's midi channels it is that I want arpeggiate, whilst leaving the other channels functioning normally. Thanks, Paul -- Paul Zimmer (ZAP! - Zimmer Audio Production) www.zimmeraudio.com

>>When I talked to tech support at Emagic, they advised >>me to stay away from M-Audio products for Mac, and >>especially for OSX. Is this unfounded, or are their >>Mac drivers flakey? Josh wrote: > i'm sure emagic would love for you to buy an EMI 2|6 or 6|2... i've > had no experience with the M-Audio stuff under OSX but in general > keep in mind that you get what you pay for. M-Audio does seem to > have a good reputation, and if their OSX support is spotty, it's > probably more to do with the newness of the OS rather than any > incompetence on their part. They have been very good at keeping > up-to-date on their MIDI device drivers, so I'd assume audio support > is probably decent as well. Hi Josh, I'd like to second that you get what you pay for and that does seem to include M-Audio. As an owner of a USB Midisport 8X8 and Audiophile 2496 I can't say I'm impressed with their drivers. I have never been able to get the Midisport to function as a USB device. The product is at least 2 years old. The Audiophile's midi input doesn't seem to work accurately, despite using the latest Beta drivers. I have Windows systems and I believe M-Audio is probably better at writing Windows drivers than Mac drivers. I have had absolutely no problems with my RME card since day 1. Steve Chandler http://www.mp3.com/stevechandler

At 11:59 PM +0100 3/31/03, Paul Zimmer wrote: >How do I sign the environment Arpeggiator to a single channel of a multi >instrument? - I can't work out how to signal which of the Multi's midi >channels it is that I want arpeggiate, whilst leaving the other channels >functioning normally. Hold the Option key while clicking the Arpeggiator's output. A menu will pop-up (the same as the Arrange Instrument list) from which you can select specific Multi channels (assuming they're enabled). Len www.Swiftkick.com

> > I don't own Logic (yet) and I would like to know if somebody is using > > it with a digidesign 002 interface (with OS 9 and/or OSX). > > If so, is it possible to do surround with logic and digi 002? --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "CDJ Tracks" <cdjtracks1@h...> wrote: > I am using the 002 with logic however Im using it on a PC... It works well > with Asio Drivers however Protools only developed Asio drivers for PC, > however you can use Direct IO (DIO) which should work... However you wont > experience the 002 as it functions so wonderfully with PTLE.. > However its still nice. From what I've experienced, Direct IO is not very stable at the moment whit logic 6. Somewhere between logic and the digi 002 the connection gets lost. Logic keeps losing control of the Digi, or otherway round.

Greetings, I need you guys help, Once I've recorded a midi track in Logic, is it possible afterwards to change only the velocity of a note via my midi keyboard without affecting its pitch? The ideal situation would be for me to select the first note I want to edit and then by pressing a key on my midi keyboard, the note on the track will take the velocity of the key I've just pressed (the pitch would remain unchanged!). The program would then select and point to the next note for me to edit and so on, so forth... That way I could apply my own velocity values via keyboard to the recorded track without erasing the original pitches. I'm aware that it's possible to create a new track just below the recorded selected one and record the modulation wheel, pitchbend changes and other controllers and then merge (glue) the 2 tracks together. But I did find anything for changing the velocity of notes without affecting its pitches via a midi keyboard. I've tried to fool around w/ this by inserting a transformer but to no avail… I'm using LAP 5.5. Any clues? Thank you in advance for your help. JHanks.

> >>When I talked to tech support at Emagic, they advised > >>me to stay away from M-Audio products for Mac, and > >>especially for OSX. Is this unfounded, or are their > >>Mac drivers flakey? --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Steve Chandler <stevec@o...> wrote: > I'd like to second that you get what you pay for and that does seem > to include M-Audio. As an owner of a USB Midisport 8X8 and > Audiophile 2496 I can't say I'm impressed with their drivers. I > have never been able to get the Midisport to function as a USB > device. The product is at least 2 years old. The Audiophile's midi > input doesn't seem to work accurately, despite using the latest > Beta drivers. I have Windows systems and I believe M-Audio is > probably better at writing Windows drivers than Mac drivers. I have > had absolutely no problems with my RME card since day 1. For what its worth I'm pretty sure M-Audio helped Apple write a lot of Core Audio in OSX. I've been told before M-Audio makes the best OSX drivers out there though of course that does no good if Logic doesn't play along nicely with them.... I'm not sure why the Midisport wouldn't work over USB, but I've had no problems getting the Oxygen8 I bought from them to work over USB (in WindowsXP). Personally I am extremely tempted to get the new M-Audio Firewire 410 device, though it hasn't started shipping yet and I haven't heard from anyone using it. For a long time I wanted to get an RME Hammerfall/Multiface but since I don't record any physical instruments the analog 8 inputs on the Multiface were overkill for me (I only need 1 or 2). I thought of getting a lesser RME card but none of them seem to have analog outputs short of buying additional AEB expansions etc. I wish RME made a card with 1 analog output, a few analog ins and a bit of adat and s/pdif i/o... The M-Audio Firewire 410 device has a more analog outputs than I really need but is a bit less overkill for my particular setup than an RME card.. I can't wait to hear from people using it once it starts shipping. Jeremy M

Let's hope you never have to do this, but if (like me) you do, here's how to go about it. Thanks to Markus at Awave for the vital clues about the Mac file system, and for actually answering tech support emails! As a [former] cross platform developer, it's hard to believe that EMagic aren't familiar with these issues, but if they are, they've kept mum about it--I've been trying to get answers from EMagic on this since october, with no success. Markus at Awave took about 24 hours to clarify the whole situation. Hopefully someone else will benefit from this someday. Keywords LAW LAM Sound Designer filetype conversion LSO SD2 SDII resource fork This post explains how to open up a Logic project created in Logic on a Mac, and saved to a Mac format CD, in LAW. It requires two additional PC programs, MacOpener and Awave (or equivalents.) MacOpener allows a PC to open and read a Mac-format CD. Awave will batch-convert files from SD2 or aiff to WAV. When a mac disk is opened on a PC using MacOpener, the information in the resource fork (other than filetype and creator) of the files is lost. In the case of SDII files, this means the sample rate and the number of channels. Normally the sample rate will be the same as the song, so this is easy enough to ascertain. But the information about the number of channels is lost. Logic assumes it is 1. If the file is stereo, it will sound like it is playing back at half speed. Apparently this is why LAM doesn't support SDII files--the header data in it is lost when it is moved off a Mac. (Of course, your Logic song knows how many channels the file is SUPPOSED to have, so you'd think it could make an educated guess! But it doesn't.) Fetchit has a means of moving this data out of the resource fork, and into the file, where AWAVE can use it in the conversion, but MacOpener doesn't support this. So here is the process I have figured out to open such songs: 1. Add a new SDII filetype in MacOpener. Type is Sd2f, Creator is "any". This is done in MacOpener Driver prefs. 2. Set SDII extension to be blank. (It will need to be changed to .SD2 for Awave to work, but that comes later--if you let macopener rename the files now, Logic won't recognise them.) 3. Set up LSO filetype in MacOpener. Type is EM3F, Creater is EMAG. Now you should see extensions on your files. If this doesn't work, you may need to click on maclic.exe in the macOpener program files folder, and/or eject and remount the CD. Sometimes you have to restart. 4. Copy all audio songfiles from the CD onto the internal drive. 5. Open up your logic song. Mono files will play back correctly in Logic, even though SD2 is not supported. That's because there is nothing but audio data left in the file. Move all the mono files to your hard drive. Close Logic. 6. Go to MacOpener preferences, and set the SDII filetype extension to .SD2. Now your files should have an extension added. If not, see #3 above. 7. Open Awave. Use the "add directory" feature to add all the files with the .SD2 extension in the song folder on the CD. Remove any that you moved in step 5 from the list. On the next page of the wizard, click on "more options" and set the number of channels for SDII files to 2. You should now be able to go back to the Awave file page, and hear the stereo files play back correctly. 8. Convert the files to .wav files in Awave. Set # of channels to 2, and specify the sample rate if the default is not correct (default is 44100.) 9. Open up Logic. It cannot automatically recognise the .wav files when it opens, so you will have to select each one of them manually. Alternatively, It might work to remove the .wav extensions from all the files in the finder, so logic sees them. 10. Play your song, and hope it sounds right. If you mistook a mono file for stereo, it will play back an octave too high. If this happens, go to "more options" in the AWAVE and change the number of SDII channels back to 1. Run the .wav conversion on the original CD file again. Now if you find it in logic, it will say "mono/stereo conflict", so you will have to reopen your song from the CD, and go through manually finding all the stereo files again. It will also ask for the converted mono file. This time it won't complain. Hope this helps somebody someday.

> I don't know about Windows, Russel, but on the Mac you have to press > the modifier keys *after* you click on the region to move by single > ticks. Weird and counter-intuitive, but it works. Not here. Mac DP533/ PB867. Works as it should _________________ Matt McKenzie-Smith PO Box 10395 Adelaide 5000 South Australia +61416 197 883

> > Thanks for the info, everybody! > > Did any of you use the M-Audio products on a Mac? > > How about on OSX? > > When I talked to tech support at Emagic, they advised > > me to stay away from M-Audio products for Mac, and > > especially for OSX. Is this unfounded, or are their > > Mac drivers flakey? > > I am personally using the Delta 1010 on Mac G4 OSX 10.2.4 Logic audio > and it works great. The only thing is that you must NOT use the midi > ports i/o's from the card. It seems that the midi/audio stream will > not work properly and creates out of synch and glitches throughout the > recorded material (known bug). I am using an Emagic MT4 for midi and > desabled the M-audio midi drivers. Hopefully they will fix the drivers > soon... here is what I got from them... Hello Marc, We have seen this issue reported and currently it has been escalated to our development team. Unfortunately, it seems to be a random anomaly as it does not occur in all Detla 1010's. Do you have an alternative MIDI device that you could use in place of the Delta 1010? Please let me know this information. To see what MIDI data is coming into the computer, use MIDIOX, (www.midiox.com) to see what messages are being sent. I do not have a definitive release date regarding a fix, though I will send this information to you as soon as it becomes available. Please reply back to our tech supervisor (Dave Smith) regarding any additional information at daves@... Kind regards. Calvin Please do not delete prior email Calvin Banks M-AudiO Tech Support Manager

Since I upgraded to LAGM 5.5 from 4.8.1 I haven't been able to change parameters in the instrument parameters or sequence parameters windows by cntrl clicking on the top or bottom half of the number to go up or down in parameter value. It usually takes it straight to '1' or something weird. Is anyone else getting this. I use this all the time, it's pretty fundamental. Another annoying glitch with this dodgy piece of software.