I booted my brand-spankin-new DP 1.25GHz Mac last night, and it sounds loud as heck to me. It's MUCH louder than my 8500, and quite a bit louder than our Dell desktop. I can live with it, but I'm disappointed. If this is the new quiet machine, I truly pity the owners of the old louder machines. Anyway, it's not great, but I guess as machines get faster and hotter, it's to be expected... On the plus side, OSX and the machine in general both ROCK!!! I can't wait for Logic 6 to get delivered, I'm going to jump fully into LogicX and take my lumps... -smeet

On a fine day, 28-02-2003, Jeremy Martin <jeremy@...> wrote: >--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@k...> >wrote: >> Sorry for the OT, but recently I've been getting annoying mails >> every time I send a msg to the LUG. All identical and being sent >> from the same address, like this: > > >Very weird.. I've removed that member from the group, hopefully if >he's still around he'll sign back up from a valid email address. >Thanks for the heads up everyone. > >Btw messages about problems with Yahoo Groups etc can be [GEN] not >[OT]. Yeah, but I wasn't sure if it was yahoo or something on my side, having to do with this guy, or whatever. Anyway, thanks everyone for confirming, both privately and here... -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com

On a fine day, 28-02-2003, hesse-voormann@... wrote: > >or 2) get a somewhat older Mac cheaper and use it with >>VSTs in OS9, possibly with a bit less performance than you were used >>to with your 8 trillion terahurts helium-cooled Pentium MCMLXII (hey, >>my birthyear! :), > >One thing I would never consider doing is moving to a slower Computer Agreed -- I wouldn't do that either. I guess if had a PC (now there's a funny thought :-), I would simply stick to 5.5 and wait a bit. Nothing wrong with 5.5, and nothing wrong with not spending money for some time :). >hopefully a nice G5/IBM 970 or whatever Apple come up with next. I >really want them to do well and come up with machines that will >settle all the stupid PC/Mac performance arguments. I don't care for the arguments, but a new line of G-whatevers would be nice. >BTW how is the thesis going? Very well -- thanks for asking. Just working my *ss off currently... Spending 16 hours or more each day behind the Mac... (it's a one-week schoolholiday over here, so no work until Monday -- hence the 16 hour days). Another month or 2, and it'll hopefully be over. Heck, by then I've been going to school for some 36 years -- time to get it over and done with, and get a life :-). -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com

> Is there a way to copy the automation data and paste it > into the new audio track? Yes.......what you do is this - go to your key commands menu, type in the "search" box "Automation Folder", you'll notice that there are no key commands assigned to this menu, you'll also notice another automation Event List that does not have any key command assigned to it. This is because the only way to access these menus is by assigning them key commands.(kind of a funky thing for Logic to have to make you do, but oh well) I used key commands like "Option, 1" and "Option, 2" for the other.(these commands are not used by any other Logic function) Once you've done this, you can access these windows from the arrange and do your pasting and copying as you like.........hope this helps. M-De

On Friday, February 28, 2003, at 10:02 AM, Remco Muntz wrote: > Just got my copy of Logic Audio Platinum 6 today and am a bit > disappointed. On MacOS X 10.2.2 it doesn't install at all. It says it > needs MacOS X 10.2 or greater to work. Really ridiculous. > On OS 9 it has some nice new features borrowed from ProTools, but > that's ok. But it's not that much new stuff for the EUR 139,- it costs > you. And the fact I still don't get a new manual is crazy, but that's > been discussed here before. > All in all, nice new things, but a little expensive for what you get. > > Remco > > BTW Anyone know how to install Logic on MacOS X 10.2.2? Imagine you buy > a EUR 900,- software package and it won't even install... The current version of OSX is 10.2.4. I know that 10.2.3 introduced some important under-the-hood improments related to audio so why not just update your system? It's free... fwiw there have been some reports of problems with 10.2.4 and MOTU828s. I have had no problem with 10.2.4 and my MOTU896 however.

> Crystal, one of the most popular software synthesizers due to its inspiring > sonic capabilities, along with the added bonus that it's free, may now be used > by Logic 6 (version 6 of Logic is required), and other AU host users on OS X. Why would Logic 6 be required to run it? AFAIK there are no major changes between 5.5 and 6.0's AU implementation, are there? Cheers, -Josh Emmons

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "mandcmiller <mandcmiller@e...>" <mandcmiller@e...> wrote: ... I do however plan on getting the new > 01V96 when it becomes available (I think in April) thanks for your response Matt mmm... the 01V96 sounds VERY interesting, especially increased surface control and 24/96 ... any idea how many pennies I need to start saving?

I appreciate knowing if I would significantly improve score print out if I installed the optional Adobe Sonata font. Thanks.

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Josh Ford <joshuaford2001@y...> wrote: > Having problems getting reliable timing when trying to > sync 3-4 laptops via midi. > 2xG4 titanium laptops running logic 4.7.3 > 1xG3 pismo 400 running logic 4.7 > 1xG3 pismo 500 running logic 5.5 > 1x phillip rees 1x4midi thru box > 4x usb midi interfaces (differing manufacturers) > 1x Alesis MMT8 (supplying the sync pulse) > We can get all machines recieving MTC from MMT8 but > tempos are fluctuating all over the place, with no > apparent consistency. One machine will fluctuate by > hundrenths of a bpm, another will fluctuate by upto 8 bpm. Hmmm, sounds to me like somebody is having a nerd jam session! :) The first thing you need to know is that the MMT8 does not output MTC (MIDI Time Code), it only outputs CLOCKS. That means on each laptop you'll want to set Logic to sync to external clocks, not MIDI Time Code. The thing that worries me is your "differing manufacturers" of USB MIDI interfaces. In my experience a lot of manufacturers are yet to get these things to be just right. I think your best bet would be to first figure out just which laptops are out and by how much. Don't rely on the BPM display on the transport bar - it means essentially nothing when Logic is synced to MIDI clocks, all it's doing is "guessing" the current tempo based on incoming pulses. Sequence something on the MMT-8 and something else on the laptop, and listen to determine whether they drift from each other. Use external MIDI instruments for this test, because the inherent latency of soft synths could mislead you here. Once you have figured out which laptops are offending, start swapping USB MIDI interfaces to see if the problems follow the interfaces or the laptops. BTW I don't recommend using OMS, but it might be necessary to get Logic to talk to some USB interfaces I suppose. With a USB MIDI interface I would be more inclined to use OS X (assuming drivers are available) than OMS. If you're smart and methodical about the way you do this, you should be able to find the culprits in less than an hour. Good luck! - Steve.

> Seriously considering a Mobile I/O, but I've heard of problems... > 1) Lightpipe: > This unit would replace my current MOTU 2408 Mk II. I use > Lightpipe for digital I/O between it and Yamaha 01v. I've read > extensively about problems with Lightpipe performance. > Any Mobile I/O owners care to comment please? > 2) Firewire performance (versus that via PCI). Regulary run up > to 24 tracks in Logic with many plugins. Have a Firewire HD on > the Firewire bus. > How will performance compare to that from PCI-based A/D converter? just read an article in EM saying the litepipe in has problems-not with the out though. check out RME too sam

> I booted my brand-spankin-new DP 1.25GHz Mac last night, and > it sounds loud as heck to me. It's MUCH louder than my 8500, > -smeet Find a closet and buy some extensions for your mouse, keys and monitor - set your box up so you can boot from you keyboard and you are good to go....you may have to open the closet to load cdroms, but it is worth it. sam

Remco Muntz <rmuntz@...> writes: >Just got my copy of Logic Audio Platinum 6 today and am a bit >disappointed. On MacOS X 10.2.2 it doesn't install at all. It says it >needs MacOS X 10.2 or greater to work. Really ridiculous. I know it works perfectly fine on 10.2.3. You can upgrade to this for free. I don't know about 10.2.2 (this hasn't been current for many weeks now). 10.2.4 is actually the most current, but I definitely know that 10.2.3 works fine. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"

> --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "mandcmiller > <mandcmiller@e...>" <mandcmiller@e...> wrote: > ... I do however plan on getting the new > > 01V96 when it becomes available (I think in April) "pan <pangeddes@l...>" <pangeddes@l...> wrote: > thanks for your response Matt > mmm... the 01V96 sounds VERY interesting, especially > increased surface control and 24/96 ... any idea how many > pennies I need to start saving? the 01V96 will list for about $2500-. You can get more info at Yamaha's site and there is an good press release avaiolable at Harmony Central. http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM03/Content/Yamaha/PR/ 01V96.html BTW - One other thing I look forward to with the 01v96 is accessing the four effects in realtime using Logic's insert I/O plug-in. -Matt

> Why would Logic 6 be required to run it? AFAIK there are no major > changes between 5.5 and 6.0's AU implementation, are there? Here's the info I got from Glenn: "With Logic 5 you can use the presets, but you can't edit patches (the GUI controls won't work). EMagic will be supplying a free 5.5.x update to fix this in the near future. by Logic 6 (version 6 of Logic is required), and other AU host users on OS X." ===="You blow in this end of the trombone, and sound comes out the other end and disrupts the cosmos." Roswell Rudd Check out the Pat Hall @ http://www.mp3.com/pathall/ .com/

ah1 has contributed a VSTi automation environment to the LUG Environment collection: http://www.swiftkick.com/lugenv/midi/vstiauto.zip Thanks, Len www.Swiftkick.com

I'm happy to say that MOTU stuck w/ their stated release date of Feb 28. My 2408 Mk2 is working great in the very minimal testing I have so far done. There are version 1.0 drivers for both 324 & 424 as promised :) Russ

I have a four staff score of a string quartet. I am now working to overlap certain notes to give it a more legato feeling on midi playback. The sound is just what I want. The problem that I am having is that Logic will only allow me to save these alterations in 3 of the 4 staffs (not the viola). I notice in the matrix window that as soon as I hit save (apple S) the notes of the viola pop back to their original positions. Here is what I want: --------| |------- |--------| this --------|- -|------- -|--------|- becomes this At the qua setting I have (16, 24) I am able to extend the notes just 1/32 in each direction without the score changing which is OK because it gives me just the sound I am looking for. Qua is set to 16, 24 which gives me score just like I want (shortest note is a 16th). Interpretation off Syncopation ON No overlap off Max Dots 1 How do I get Logic to save this in all four staffs?

> > Is there a way to copy the automation data and paste it > > into the new audio track? I usually just create a new track, create an empty object where my automation is and then copy that and answer "yes" to the copy automation dialog box. works well and fast.. Cheers Hans

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, "Michael A. Thompson" <mathomp@b...> wrote: > I have a 400mhz G4 powerbook and logic on OSX runs has well as OS 9 > with the exception that OSX doesn't crash as much. <snip> > I recorded all audio tracks without effects (dry) with a low buffer > setting for latency. In mix down, I increased the buffer settings so i > could add effects, latency is not an issue for me in mastering, others > might think so. Not a single crash or choke. CPU is not max out either. > But this might just be me. I am running a similar system and the only problem I had was audio blips during recording and playback. Until I realized I had not upgraded the firewire driver. I got the 10.2.4 updater from the apple site and the problem is solved. I think this is a rock solid system now too RBHProductions

> vick_timson wrote: > > to recap: I'd like to know urls for working tips on mixing and mastering --- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Steve Chandler <stevec@o...> wrote: > Is anyone here using Izotope (http://www.izotope.com)? Their web site > has a number of pdfs on mastering and I've heard good results using > their plugins. The price is pretty good too. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find the pdfs on mixing or mastering in general. I could only find faqs for their products. Do you have a more specific link?

Try posting your questing to the Metric MIO group: http://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/mobileio There are lots of discussions about lightpipe performance.. For what it is worth. I ordered 5 interfaces, including the MOTU 828, returning them all. I will keep the MIO, it is great and will only improve in time. Metric Halo is addressing problems with the light pipe.

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Todd Richmond <todd@n...> wrote: > ***********fwiw there have been some reports of problems with 10.2.4 > and MOTU828s. I have had no problem with 10.2.4 and my MOTU896 > however.*********** SAY WHAT? How can you have a problem from 2 different machines that use the same driver. My 828 works fine in 10.2.4

Hi, Using LAW with a Delta 1010 card. When trying to target notes via Midi for autotune, I try to select the Delta 1010 Midi, and it comes up with Auto-Tune could not initialize Midi. Please make sure that the MIDI device is properly installed and that appropriate multi- client midi driveers have been installed. I've used it succesfully before, though since I have hooked up my Logic Control and XT via a Midi Sport USB midi 2x2. Otherwise the midi ports work fine on the Delta 1010, I can record and playback midi to my Korg Triton. Scott

--- In logic-users@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Mullen <Anthony.Mullen@t...> wrote: > Can anyone else comment on how they have found OSX and logic to behave My experience is that disk performance can be pretty awful on OSX compared to OS9, more so at low buffer sizes, and especially if using Firewire disks. Too much buffering & too infrequent writing for my 1GHz Titanium internal drive at smaller buffer sizes, the same plus high CPU use for external Firewire drives. In terms of audio processing alone, I'm finding OSX has a small overall performance hit (5% or so), but more optimized plugins in Logic 6 should offset this nicely. I'm also finding Logic 5.5 on OSX to be a little _less_ stable than 5.5 on OS9 with my RME multiface. But at least when it crashes it doesn't hose the whole OS. I'm hoping Logic 6 will improve things somewhat, though I suspect the disk problems lie more with CoreAudio and OSX Firewire code. Any Logic 6 users care to comment on disk performance at low buffer sizes - 128 sample buffer, record/playback 16+ tracks? John Pitcairn ------------------------------------------------------------------ Midi controller learn in Logic. Soft takeover. Lots of memories. Tracks remember control assignments. Write track automation. Fadermapper demo: http://www.revolver.co.nz/fadermapper/ ------------------------------------------------------------------

> OTOH I think that > Emagic could have decided to stop the entire LAW thing right here and > now, with the release of LA6 for Mac. The fact that they choose to > do otherwise is what made me say Emagic is cool. I'm not sure what you say is true HJ. As far as I'm aware Emagic are legally bound to fully support Logic 5 for Windows until Sept 30th 2004 and I suspect this includes bug fixes. Apparently this is stipulated by German law. I'm there are others who know more than I on this matter. Tony Perretta