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From: "Roger Jackson" <scores@...>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 at 4:45:13 PM
Subject: [LUG] Re: [GEN] Adding multiple audio files to arrange window all at once
Message #122326
This is a reply to #122315.
> > The manual seems to imply that dragging files from the desktop can be > > done in multiples but not being able to add multiple files from the > > audio window is essential for even the most rudimentary audio > > applications. Logic has many powerful features but it is > > flabbergasting that they have never updated this. > > > i agree! > > peace, nassau Me 2! - Put it on the list! RJ
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From: "Roger Jackson" <scores@...>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 at 4:49:55 PM
Subject: Re: LAW [GEN] trouble with OMF
Message #122327
This is a reply to #122297.
"The Doghouse NYC" <nat@d...> wrote: > > Has anyone had problems exporting OMF files? I tried it recently and > > when importing it back into LA the files are mostly noise. I have > > included the audio and left all the settings at their defaults. Maybe a > > problem with interleaving? "Enemy of Silence" <enemyofsilence@y...> wrote: > Nathan, > Just did some searching on this topic and found your post. Did you > ever find a solution to this? I tried it last night for the first > time and I get cyclic noise - about 3/4 second of noise then a tiny > clean part, then back to noise. LAWP 5.3, winXP > > Now that Sonar2.1 imports/exports OMF I need it for transfering > projects. No such luck. I did try bringing back into logic just to > make sure it wasn't Sonar misinterpreting it - logic gets the same > crap. definitely an export issue. > > I tried it with both a US-428 and a Motu 828 as the soundcard - same > results (as I kind of expected). Asio drivers each time. > > Anyone got a clue? FWIW - I have been happily exporting to OMF and then sometimes on to Pro Tools using OMF tool. I haven't been able to try importing back into Logic, as Pro Tools still apparently has some issues with exporting to OMF. I am using LAMP 5.0 to 5.3 for this om G4 dual 1G RJ
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From: "NKN420" <nkn@...>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 at 5:10:26 PM
Subject: [GEN] does anyone have an environment.....
Message #122328
does any have a good environment using 2 unitor 8's. If so could u post. curious to see the difference if any. Yours might work better. Thanks. NKN
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From: "pe603" <supro@...>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 at 5:33:43 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] PC-made *.lso files can't be read by Mac?
Message #122329
This is a reply to #122276.
Thoughts from the mind of kirkxyz, 23-10-2002: > >just made the switch to Mac...and have 5.3.x installed on 0S9.2 > > > >and I find my PC-created *.lso songs sitting on the Mac desktop after > >a transfer do NOT take on the logic logo but still look like generic > >docs and Logic will not load them (the Mac OS asks: "with what app do > >you want to open this"...kinda thang... > > > >any help appreciated in advance... Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@k...> wrote: > Download the thingy I just uploaded this week to the file-section of > the LUG. It's an applescript called lasong.sit -- drop your files on > them, and be done with it. You could also use the import function. That works when opening ac PC song into Mac.
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From: "gdoubleyou2000" <membershipservices@...>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 at 5:47:29 PM
Subject: Re: [LAW] Motu 828
Message #122330
This is a reply to #122198.
"shane johnson" <sjohnson@i...> wrote: > I'm running Logic with Windows 2000 on a Toshisba laptop. Logic recognises > my new Motu 828 but I'm unable to get anything except occasional clicks from > the unit. The correct drivers are installed and selected. Motu's tech > support recommend trying a different firewire card - I'm using a Trust > dv416. If anybody has other suggestions before I spend more money.......... I'm not familar with that card, but I do remember that for compatibility the firewire card must contain the TI or Lucent chipset. There's probably more info at the MOTU site. G-Dub
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From: "poor_lizard" <poor_lizard@...>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 at 6:19:49 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] PC-made *.lso files can't be read by Mac?
Message #122331
This is a reply to #122276.
Thoughts from the mind of kirkxyz, 23-10-2002: > >just made the switch to Mac...and have 5.3.x installed on 0S9.2 > > > >and I find my PC-created *.lso songs sitting on the Mac desktop after > >a transfer do NOT take on the logic logo but still look like generic > >docs and Logic will not load them (the Mac OS asks: "with what app do > >you want to open this"...kinda thang... > > > >any help appreciated in advance... Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@k...> wrote: > Download the thingy I just uploaded this week to the file-section of > the LUG. It's an applescript called lasong.sit -- drop your files on > them, and be done with it. The reason your .lso files will not display with the Logic icon on your mac desktop is because the files are PC format and do not have the embedded info headers (fork or whatever) that a normal mac file has which helps the OS identify what *file type* it is. (On the PC, the .xxx is what identifies the file type. Recognition of the three letter file extension is a feature of many mac apps (Adobe, Microsoft, Quark for example - you will still get the "with what app do you want to open this...kinda thang" but it will guess correctly), but apparently not with Logic. Thankfully, the previous poster has provided some handy dandy scripts to solve your problems in a batch fashion. Regardless, you should at the very least, launch Logic *first* - then, use file-open. You should be able to see and open your .lso's. Save-as to a new file name (I would be wary to overwrite) and your newly save files will have mac icons which you now can double click to open. ~Poor Lizard
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From: "greendale101" <itilley@...>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 at 6:23:02 PM
Subject: [GEN] MMC Record Buttons
Message #122332
Hi, I'm having problems arming tracks on my Fostex D-160 from Logic using MMC. The basic MMC works fine but I've had no luck with arming the tracks. The manual isn't exactly helpful either...I know I have to create an instrument with the tape icon (#305) or use the MMC record buttons environment object...I have tried both but can't seem to get it to work. The manual just says "You only need to create one instrument with the tape object, you can then assign this to as many tracks as you need for you tape machine..." - Fair enough, but how do you assign them? Any help gratefully received, I've just about given up on the idea now!! Cheers Ian
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From: homburg <homburg@...>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 at 6:29:42 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [LAM] OSX Equivalent command to SUBST (PC).
Message #122333
This is a reply to #122325.
John Pitcairn wrote: > R:blahblahyaddadoodoofilename > > and replace with: > > /Volumes/diskname/blahblah/yadda/doodoo/filename > > or whatever format the EXS needs for OSX. Refer to one of the > bundled EXS instruments for details. And, er, work on a copy of > the files, of course ;-) This is what I did (with BBEdit of course) to convert a 4 disc library from pc to mac. Even with the batch processing it takes a certain amount of work - ie replace illegal characters in one pass, then replace directories as needed. You also have to make sure that that sample file directories land in the right place, or the EXS will take forever to search whenever you want to invoke a certain bank. Personally, I don't expect to re-visit this issue again, now that CDXtract 4 has parity on both platforms. But the original poster raised a valid concern: even with batch processing the task of moving EXS from pc to mac would be a potentially large task. A step by step guide, or better, an elegant solution (some kind of utility?) would be a good idea for Emagic to consider - especially if they are trying to make cross-grading as attractive and painless as possible..
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From: "Corey Allison" <cor_e@...>
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 at 6:50:04 PM
Subject: [LAW] very disturbing and mysterious issues
Message #122334
This is a reply to #122323.
hello all... first off, this may be a bit off center, as im not sure it is 100% logic related. if need be, feel free to email me off the list. last nite, i was working on a song. i went to bed, didnt shut anything down, just left it up to work on this morning when i got up. when i got up this morning, i had a strange loss of sound in everything EXCEPT logic. my windows media player, winamp, acid, sound forge, etc, nothing puts out any sound. i can try to play a loop in sound forge and nothing, however if i import it as an audio file to logic it plays fine. ive gotten some strange error messages as well, and even gotten a few "error syncing midi" messages from logic too, but when i would close and reopen it would be fine (in logic). i scanned for viruses, re-assigned the outs on my soundcard to make sure they were correct, etc. im quite nervous about this, to be honest. my OS consists of winXP, 1.6ghz chip, 512 megs of ram and an echo mia soundcard. i just purchased this machine about 6 months ago for the specific purpose of running audio only apps. any help would be enormously appreciated. its getting to the point where i am scared i may have to format or something drastic like that. thank you... corey allison corey@...
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From: "brunocatt" <bruno@...>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 at 6:55:37 PM
Subject: [LAW] Recording slow start
Message #122335
I just converted to Win XP, Logic works fine except it takes for ever or about half a minute anyway when I click "record" till the recording starts. Someone else had this problem? And also: Has there been any news when it comes to using versions after 5.1.3 which seems to be the last version where I can open the FX-plugins? Hoping for help Bruno
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From: "a_paulick" <a_paulick@...>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 at 7:04:36 PM
Subject: [GEN] micro-tonal, non-chromatic scales
Message #122336
Has anybody figured out a way to configure any logic virtual instruments to play micro-tonal, non-chromatic scales (especially "just tuning")? I guess it is possible to individually tune each key on the EXS, but rather time consuming. Can anybody recommend a website dedicated to this subject? thanks, alex paulick
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From: Lachlan Deck <ldeck@...>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 at 7:32:30 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [LAM] OSX Equivalent command to SUBST (PC).
Message #122337
This is a reply to #122313.
Hi there, Obliviän | Bacteria AS wrote: >>> I am currently on WinXP, but are also setting up a Titan with OS10.2 >>> Well, >>> here goes, how do I make a folder/directory appear as a drive in OSX? >>> In >>> Windows you can SUBST a folder and it will appear in the system as an >>> independent drive. The thing is that I have mapped all samples, sound >>> archives etc. to that "virtual" drive, so that the drive letters are >>> always >>> the same on any computer, over network etc. I have used the letter >>> R: for >>> several years, so all my projects are compatible. From: "Lachlan Deck" <ldeck@...> >> Ahh.. interesting. >> Well you need to look into DiskCopy. >> /Applications/Utilities/ >> [snip] Obliviän | Bacteria AS wrote: > Thanks I'll try that! Homborg just wrote that it might be impossible to > cross-use my EXS24 sample/instrument library though... Would it be an > idea > to share the folder over the network and just map it to "R:"? I saw what homburg wrote. I have to disagree with his theory of forever on conversion :-). Well it would take forever doing it by hand if you had a lot of files, but a simple AppleScript will suffice or even a couple of C++ files I've got would do the trick together with a shell script. Contact me privately (I have one already that does something similar). Hmm. You can certainly mount the volume of a shared disk (from a network computer) - but if this is for real-time stuff I don't know how that will go (i.e., how these exs libraries are utilised in Logic). But you can certainly try. I'm on 10.1.5 (so this may be a little simpler in 10.2) but... From GUI: Jump into Sherlock and hit the Apple Icon (to search the Apple Knowledge-base). Type in "Mac OS X Connect to SMB" or something similar (Note: you'll need to log into the knowledge base by creating an account first if you want to view the results of a sherlock find in your browser. So go to http://www.apple.com/support/ and click KnowledgBase or MySupport and set up an account if you haven't already. This account, btw, will be used for Apple online discussions and the store etc). To share your stuff with the outside world.... - Go to System Preferences-->Sharing Turn on sharing, you may want to allow remote logins via terminal and or ftp access (if you want to login from your XP machine for example). From the knowledgbase: -- Follow these steps: 1. Click the Finder icon in the Dock. 2. Choose Connect to Server from the Go menu (see Note 1). 3. In the address field of the Connect to Server dialog, type the URL using this syntax (see Note 3): smb://ServerName/ShareName/ 4. Click Connect. (e.g., smb://192.168.1.2/R/) You will be prompted for the workgroup, user name, and password. In addition to connecting to actual Microsoft Windows computers, you may also use the Connect to Server dialog to connect to a Macintosh that is offering Windows File Sharing. Notes: 1. When you go to the Connect to Server dialog, you may browse by computer name. In Mac OS X versions 10.0 to 10.1.5, the names of SMB-sharing computers do not appear. In Mac OS X 10.2 or later, the names of SMB computers do appear (see Note 2). However, only the names of computers on your subnet appear. 2. You may not always see the expected user-defined computer name when browsing via SMB. See technical document 107085, "Mac OS X 10.2: Windows (SMB) Computer Name Does Not Appear in Connect to Server Dialog". 3. "ServerName" may be an IP address or DNS name. 4. The name of the "share" (the shared disk, volume, or directory) must be specified. You will not be prompted for it. --- After following those steps you'll have volume R on your Mac Desktop assuming, of course, that you've allowed the volume to be shared from XP. Note: If it doesn't work then you could set up the Mac to synchronise its copy with your XP machine. But that's for another day :-) check out 'man -k smb' for commands relating to smb. with regards, -- Lachlan Deck ldeck@...
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From: mvangen <mikvhsd@...>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 at 8:21:08 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [LAM] midicontrol of autotune3
Message #122338
This is a reply to #122287.
mvangen2001 wrote: >> has anyone been able to get midi control ofautotune3? >> it worked on my pc and i just paid to cross grade but the midi >> control isnt working for me. >> i called antares and they said it was a problem with my unitor8 >> which i dont see how that could be. >> does any one have any ideas on this? Michael Haydn at mhaydn@... wrote: > Antares should specify what exactly is the problem with the Unitor8. > I can't imagine anything caused by the Unitor8 which would lead to > your problem. i agree! my unitor and autotune3 worked fine on my pc so what could be different on the mac? he said somthing about using vst midi or something, any idea what he's talking about. i thought they would have the answer but he says i need to talk to emagic to find out what the problem is. i would think they would know since this should have been tested with logic so if any one has been able to get the midi control to work in autotune3 please let me know how you did it. thanks mike v.
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From: "djuneke" <djuneke@...>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 at 8:23:32 PM
Subject: [GEN] es1 instruments
Message #122339
where does the folder with the sounds go so i can play them on the es1????
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From: "Tony Perretta" <bambony@...>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 at 8:34:28 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [LAW] Recording slow start
Message #122340
This is a reply to #122335.
> I just converted to Win XP, Logic works fine > except it takes for ever or about half a minute anyway > when I click "record" till the recording starts. > Someone else had this problem? Switch your file system to NTFS from the Fat32 u r currently using. Search the archives for more info > And also: Has there been any news when it comes to using versions > after 5.1.3 which seems to be the last version where I can open > the FX-plugins? Do u mean VST instruments? The slot has moved down to just above the fader > Hoping for help Hoping this helped Tony Perretta
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From: "John Pitcairn" <johnp@...>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 at 9:28:05 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [LAM] OSX Equivalent command to SUBST (PC).
Message #122341
This is a reply to #122333.
--- In logic-users@y..., homburg <homburg@c...> wrote: > This is what I did (with BBEdit of course) What would we do without it ...? No, not Emacs, please no ;-) John Pitcairn ----------------------------------------------------------------- Got a controller? Wish there was a midi learn function in Logic? Try the Fadermapper demo: http://www.revolver.co.nz/fadermapper/ -----------------------------------------------------------------
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From: "John Pitcairn" <johnp@...>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 at 9:39:57 PM
Subject: OT: DCC tapes available anywhere online?
Message #122342
I have an old DCC deck that still runs well, has quite nice converters, not readt to retire just yet. It's a dead format, but I'd like to pick up a supply of DCC tapes for it if possible - does anyone know of a source online? John Pitcairn ----------------------------------------------------------------- Got a controller? Wish there was a midi learn function in Logic? Try the Fadermapper demo: http://www.revolver.co.nz/fadermapper/ -----------------------------------------------------------------
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From: Mtjkeys@...
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 at 9:23:06 PM
Subject: [LUG] [GEN] Assigning EVP88 and EXS24 into track
Message #122343
LUG, Running 5.3.0 Platinum and Mac 10.2. How do I assign/open EVP88 and EXS24 into tracks so I can play around with them? My authorization is open and running and I really am having a problem figuring it out. Looked all through the manual and can't seem to find the appropriate heading to give me the info I'm looking for. Thanks in advance. It is so nice to have LUG as an additional tool. Tim Jennens mtjkeys@...
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From: Ned Bouhalassa <ned@...>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 at 9:54:33 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] micro-tonal, non-chromatic scales
Message #122344
This is a reply to #122336.
a_paulick wrote: > Has anybody figured out a way to configure any logic virtual > instruments to play micro-tonal, non-chromatic scales > (especially "just tuning")? I guess it is possible to individually > tune each key on the EXS, but rather time consuming. > Can anybody recommend a website dedicated to this subject? > thanks, > alex paulick Funny, I was thinking about that just the other night! I think the only ways to do it are either to tune the samples individually, or to use hyperdraw to place very specific pitch-wheel control message. There are some great resources/links on this page: http://www.microtonal.org/resources.html Ned
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From: "Benjamin Duke" <benkri@...>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 at 10:45:29 PM
Subject: RE: [LAM] OSX Equivalent command to SUBST (PC).
Message #122345
>Two VERY ingenious solutions. However (and forgive me if I'm wrong) I >think it isn't necessary to have all this trouble in the Mac >environment. Here's why: >AFAIK - Mac (and for the little time I experienced OS X till now, >remains) always address HDs in an absolute way - E.G. No matter how many >HDs I have mounted, if I have an HD called SAMPLES, it will always be >the same disk, and uniquely identified as that. >Windows, on the other hand, always address drives by letter - if we >change our HDs, or simply add a new one, suddenly, the OS no longer >"knows" where our files/apps are (I know this by self experience). >Therefore (again, didn't try this on a network but I presume is tha >same) if you create a partition names SAMPLES in one of your Mac HDs and >file all you samples there, and tell EXS that this will be your samples >HD, no matter how many HDs are mounted, it should always recognize this >as the right one. >Please excuse me if I'm wrong, and correct me. >Fernando For those of you who are not fimiliar with unix i'll try to spoon feed this to you. Open up a terminal window and do a man page on 'ln', the linking command. You do this by typing 'man ln' at the command line. This will display information on the 'ln' command and all of the command line options for this command. the option you want to look at is the ' -s' option which creates a symbolic link which is basically an alias. So if you have a harddrive partition mounted at /dev/hda3 and you want to create an alias to /dev/hda3 at /alias_name then you would type in 'ln -s /dev/hda3 /alias_name' at the command line. Another way to do this is just to mount the drive at a mount point of your choice in /etc/fstab, this is the filesystem table and lists the mount points for most ( if not all) logical devices (harddrives, floppys, cdroms,usb storage devices, etc..) Do a 'man fstab' to get more information on the filesystem table. I know this may look complicated but the unix way of computing is extremely powerful, be patient if you first don't understand. Ask questions if you are confused. Benjamin Duke
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From: Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 at 2:09:55 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] PC-made *.lso files can't be read by Mac?
Message #122346
This is a reply to #122329.
Thoughts from the mind of pe603, 23-10-2002: >Thoughts from the mind of kirkxyz, 23-10-2002: > >> >just made the switch to Mac...and have 5.3.x installed on 0S9.2 >> > >> >and I find my PC-created *.lso songs sitting on the Mac desktop after >> >a transfer do NOT take on the logic logo but still look like generic >> >docs and Logic will not load them (the Mac OS asks: "with what app do > > >you want to open this"...kinda thang... > >Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@k...> wrote: > >> Download the thingy I just uploaded this week to the file-section of >> the LUG. It's an applescript called lasong.sit -- drop your files on > > them, and be done with it. > >You could also use the import function. That works when >opening ac PC song into Mac. Yeah, sure, but that requires you to import and re-save for every PC song you might have. The Applescript I uploaded batch-processes all files and folders dropped on it, so that afterwards you can simply double-click the files to launch Logic. A tad more convenient imo than the Import function. -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html
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From: Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 at 2:26:16 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] micro-tonal, non-chromatic scales
Message #122347
This is a reply to #122344.
Thoughts from the mind of Ned Bouhalassa, 23-10-2002: >a_paulick wrote: >> Has anybody figured out a way to configure any logic virtual >> instruments to play micro-tonal, non-chromatic scales >> (especially "just tuning")? I guess it is possible to individually >> tune each key on the EXS, but rather time consuming. > > Can anybody recommend a website dedicated to this subject? > >Funny, I was thinking about that just the other night! I think the only >ways to do it are either to tune the samples individually, or to use >hyperdraw to place very specific pitch-wheel control message. If you want to do monophonic just-tuning by using pitchbend or detune messages, you don't need hyperdraw at all. Just set up an environment patch that generates the right amount of pitchbend/detune for each note entering the patch. Basic idea would be: note enters the patch, and the remainder of 'division by 12' is determined. This yields a number 0-11 (0=C, 1=C#, etc). This number is sent to a transformer set to 'Use Map'. The map then contains 12 entries (0-11) which determine the amount of pitchbend/detune to send. Something like that. The only tricky bit is the division/remainder stuff. You could either make a transformer Map, where each appropriate note-value is translated into the proper numeral in the 0-11 range (requires you to make 128 entries 'by hand', only once). Or you could do something slightly more complicated like divide by 12 (63/12 = 5), then multiply by 12 (5*12`), and then subtract that from the original value (63-60=3). For polyphonic just-tuning, I'm afraid the only way indeed is to assign samples to each and every key and tune them all by hand. The only possible shortcut would be: put all C's in a group, put all C#'s in a group, etc, (12 Groups) and tune each of the groups -- instead of tuning every zone separately. -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html
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From: "Corey Allison" <cor_e@...>
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 at 11:30:05 PM
Subject: [LUG] [LAW] result code = 2
Message #122348
This is a reply to #122334.
hi again more on my horror story. whenever i try to open up all of my songs except for one or two i am getting a message saying "the system cannot find the file specified. result code = 2" has anyone run across this message? what does it mean =/ im scared im going to have to wipe the entire drive clean.
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From: "Satch" <satch@...>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 at 12:16:48 AM
Subject: [CROSS] Anyone In Australia Received Their Emagic Switch and Save From Electric Factory
Message #122349
Anyone here in Australia managed to get their FREE LOGIC instrument and Apple Logic 5 Manual when they went for this PROMO as I haven't received anything from them
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From: "kenwchan" <kenwchan@...>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 at 12:51:09 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] [GEN] micro-tonal, non-chromatic scales
Message #122350
This is a reply to #122344.
>--- In logic-users@y..., Ned Bouhalassa <ned@n...> wrote: > a_paulick wrote: > > > Has anybody figured out a way to configure any logic virtual > > instruments to play micro-tonal, non-chromatic scales > > (especially "just tuning")? I guess it is possible to individually > > tune each key on the EXS, but rather time consuming. > > Can anybody recommend a website dedicated to this >>subject? > > thanks, > > alex paulick > > > Funny, I was thinking about that just the other night! I think the >only > ways to do it are either to tune the samples individually, or to >use > hyperdraw to place very specific pitch-wheel control message. > > There are some great resources/links on this page: > > http://www.microtonal.org/resources.html > > > Ned I'm a total novice at micro-tunal scales but I was just wondering why it wouldn't work if you set your controller keyboard to play as such...?
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