Malcolm wrote: >However, I just did a quick check, and of course, each automation is >itemized singly in the undo history, if if 2 or more controls are automated >in the same pass. In your particular case, you could just record data on >pan >and volume, and then undo the pan. Or you can just erase the pan data if >there was nothing there to begin with. >> ------------- Is this correct? On my undo history if the 'pan' comes before the 'volume' I would have to undo my 'volume' data as well *before* I could undo the 'pan' It's like they depend on each other, like an 'undo' family tree. You make it sound like it's possible to just -click- on the "moment" in history that I want to undo, while the other "moments" are not undone. Is that possible? --Off to check the manual again, peace, ken. www.waxthedecks.com

Thanks to the person a few days ago who told me to "use the right mouse button to assign the automation select tool" I use a mac, so don't have a right mose button **(although I think you can get software for some mice that can do right clicks?...another topic someday...but)** Anyway, since v5.0 has key commands for *almost* all the tools, I forgot that holding down "open-apple" while selecting a tool makes for the open apple key held down to always equal that tool. I used to have the scissors assigned like this for quick cuts, but since v5.0 those days were over and I *forgot* about the 'open-apple' feature. Thanks for the trip down memory lane!!!! Another moment in life where you say, "I can't believe I didn't think of that before..." Peace, ken.

For some laughs, read the shipping dates at Emagic.de: EVB3 2nd Quarter EVD6 2nd Quarter Samplitude 2nd Quarter EMI 6|2m 3rd Quarter WaveBurner Pro Windows 3rd Quarter EPIC TDM 3rd Quarter By my watch, it's long past the 2nd quarter. Anyone seen the EVB3 or EVD6 yet? As for Waveburner on Windows......oooops. (I doubt it....) I'd *really* like to see a shipping date for a SoundDiver update. v3.0.4 came out in May 2001 !!! I know there's lots of new stuff waiting in the wings. Why not release it? Waaaaaaaaaay overdue. Regards - Colin

From: "David Eager" <beager@...> > Danny wrote: > > > On a very similar note, it sure would be nice to have the capability of > > 'templates' in Logic. <snip> > In MacOS you can do this quite easily. I have 4 or 5 autoloads I use on > a regualr basis. I just have a folder on my desktop with sub-folders for > each one and an alias of the Logic folder. Then just drop whichever > autoload I want on the Logic folder alias. > I do the same with prefs. [I jump between ASIO and TDM so I need > different prefs along with different environments] The folder is created > on a different drive to the Logic folder, so the moved autoload [or > prefs file] is only copied. > Overwriting is not an issue since I alway make the Autoloads into > 'stationery pad' documents. I beleive Windows has a similar type of > template document, no ? > > Dave Eager Hi Dave, Yes, you indeed can do something of the same to achieve the same results in Windows and I actually have done the same thing. Bear with me here, I am not certain what you are referring to by 'stationary pad' documents. I may be able to do this within Windows but I am missing something. I can do this say from within MS Word if I am understanding you but then again, that is a template capability that is available within Word. What I am referring to is to have the ability to do templates from within Logic itself. The competition does this and it would be nice to be able do the same thing here; have template abilities within the program. The operating systems allow us, in this case, to achieve what cannot currently be done directly within the program. I am changing the subject below somewhat... Logic is very powerful. One thing it reminds me of, is being able to use the environment as a low level software 'monitor' kinda like you can do with some embedded systems software tools. With this you can change items directly in memory from a 'command line' to get the embedded microprocessor to do almost anything you need to be done. Logic's environment is somewhat similar and it is graphical. You can do 'low level' things to a detail that most other audio sequencing/audio recording packages can't do. But you really need to know in somewhat detail of how the environment works. And you can also download many things that others have done in the environment in a manner similar to 'software macros' and insert them in your own Logic 'program' which is great. You can get Logic to do 'most anything' that you can conceptualize by using the environment at a 'lower' level. It would be nice to add many of the 'preset' abilities that their competition ships with their audio software packages; i.e., have basic functions that are used from day to day without having to create your own 'functions' or environment settings or find ways around a problem to perform the same thing that is 'canned' in other programs. I would not want to lose the capability of the environment or the many things that are available only from key commands. There are just a few additional 'standard' basic operating things that it would be nice to have from a pulldown menu. I may be starting a fire by stating this... There are many folks here on the LUG that enjoy and are rather good at creating great things in the environment and have good ideas for ways to do many things that are not apparent. I thank them for sharing their ideas with us. Danny

on 5/8/02 12:41 PM, XOtherJesusx@... at XOtherJesusx@... wrote: > The person who knows logic well who is coming to your studio should just > bring a CD-R with their autoload > on the it and import their key command settings for that session. Key commands are part of the Prefs file in LAMP G

Hey folks, This may have been addressed long ago, but I couldn't find any recent answers to this question: Are there any reasons to NOT install Logic on a drive (or partition) that also contatins OSX? I know that Logic can not be run within OSX' "Classic" mode, and I don't even have OSX on any of my music computers, because I had heard at one point that Logic's performance would suffer if OSX was installed on the same drive as Logic. Any truth to this? It's getting to the point that I'd like to install OSX on my TiBook, at least, but I also use that machine for mobile work (with Logic) and that needs to be a priority. Any thoughts/experiences appreciated! On a side note, I (like everyone else, I'm sure) am eagerly awaiting Logic Titanium (OSX), but I'm frustrated that I won't be able to use it fully until all my surrounding 3rd party software & hardware is OSX native as well (audio hardware drivers, VST plug-ins, etc.). Just about every other industry has made huge strides in getting on board with OSX, so what's taking the DAW community so long? We need to keep pushing developers on this issue, as OS9 is officially dead from Apple's point-of-view... Jim Daneker

On 8/5/02 3:52 PM, "XOtherJesusx@..." <XOtherJesusx@...> wrote: > Is this correct? > On my undo history if the 'pan' comes before the 'volume' > I would have to undo my 'volume' data as well *before* I could undo the 'pan' > It's like they depend on each other, like an 'undo' family tree. I did say "in your particular case". In the undo history, the volume was written as a "line item" followed by the pan. Hence any pan moves could be undone. My point was, in the particular instance he was talking about, luckily it could be done. I also followed up with; > In general, you're probably better off automating your volume, then toggling > back and forth out of read mode to adjust pan/eq etc. Malcolm ----------------- Malcolm Payne Music NYC http://www.malcolmpayne.com

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hi Dave, another Dave here as it goes........ I would say that there is no quick way of diciding what keys u want to assign to what (or learning them), but it soley depends on what u use most I guess. I tend to use key commands more than the mouse (my mouse is prone to bad mouse days). Simple things like moving left/right in various windows with the arrow keys makes life (arranging audio for example) far quicker. Then using the ctrl key or the alt key along with the arrow keys allows me to move objects in arrange by bar/tick/format......etc........ What do u use most Dave - thats the thing..... my key commands change almost on a weekly basis - depending what phase Im in the process of the song Im doing at the time....if ya know what I mean.... see ya Dave, take care Dave....... Dave #:-|)

--- In logic-users@y..., "ppjmd" <ppjmd@e...> wrote: > Are there any reasons to NOT install Logic on a drive (or > partition) that also contatins OSX? I know that Logic can not be > run within OSX' "Classic" mode, and I don't even have OSX on > any of my music computers, because I had heard at one point > that Logic's performance would suffer if OSX was installed on > the same drive as Logic. Any truth to this? None. Only if you record or playback from the same drive/ partition as OSX, as the 100,000 or so OSX files will rapidly fragment the audio. The same applies to recording/playback from your OS9 system drive... That said, it's a good idea to partition your drive - a partition (preferably a whole separate drive) for audio record/playback, another for OS9 and OS9 apps, another for OSX. Possibly another partition or two depending on your needs. My 20GB powerbook drive is partitioned (roughly) like this: Scratch (for photoshop, OSX VM, temporary files, browser caches, "emergency" record space) - 2GB Audio record/playback - 8GB OSX - 3GB OS9 & apps - 2GB Graphics documents & general work stuff - 4GB It helps when backing up or defragging, helps prevent massive fragmentation of audio files by other stuff, and allows me to choose OS9 or OSX at boot by holding down the Option key (you must have 9 and X on separate partitions to do this). John Pitcairn

--- In logic-users@y..., "ppjmd" <ppjmd@e...> wrote: > Just about every other industry has made huge > strides in getting on board with OSX, so what's taking the DAW > community so long? The OS X CoreAudio and CoreMidi subsystems are very much works-in-progress. There are still a lot of problems, some of which will be fixed with the upcoming 10.2 release. I suspect most developers are waiting for a reasonable level of functionality, performance, and documentation before their apps have a hope of running under X. John Pitcairn

Robert Galligan <bklyncubes@...> writes: > Getting to where I want to use key commands for more & > more things. The default state of my key commands has several > functions defined by keystroke (or keystroke combinations), but > most commands/functions are undefined. Is there a full set of > keycommands -- whether by emagicapple or by one of you > powerusers -- that I can download & use instead of creating all > of my own (which is proving to be a mind@#$%). Instead of assigning keycommands to everything (or most things), it's best to assign only when you find yourself using a certain menu function often enough to merit a key command. The other way of looking at it is to not "waste" a key command on a function that you don't do often enough and therefore won't memorize the key command in the first place. In fact, I went through the key commands and de-assigned many of them for features I don't do often enough to merit one, or for features I find "dangerous" (like destructive editing in the Sample Editor that has no dialogue like Reverse: Sure, if I accidentally hit this command I can just wait it out and undo it, but it's not like I need this command every several seconds like "MUTE" or "SOLO"). f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!"

I've had them running on the same drive and same partition for half a year now and no problems at all. I even had the Reason demo running on OSX, playing back on the AV of course. (no OSX drivers yet) :( Clisby

Sorry, I don't think your plan is going to work very well. When you transfer the audio from cassette to logic you will need logic to be resolving to the fsk sync. ie the cassette must be the master. The best possible scenario is where Logic is locking its sample rate etc to the FSK sync received. Cleaning up old FSK: Are you using the same fsk box that you used when you recorded the FSK track initially? -You need to!. Listen to the FSK to hear if there is an earth loop between the cassette machine and your FSK box. Plugging them into the same power outlet is a good start to resolving earth loops but you can get earth loops through the midi cable as well. so check if the FSK box will lock when no midi cables are connected. FSK is a very simple square wave it distorts easily and can be corrupted by background noise easily. I'm assuming that the lockup system used to work for you so the most likely problem will be earth loop.

We have just upgraded our 1G Athlon PC with Logic Platinium 5.1.3 and it crashes as it tries to initialise the DS2416. We have reinstalled Windows 2000 and Logic from scratch, but the problem remains. Anyone had similar problems? Now the installation is set to look for the DS2416, we can't get Logic to start to change the Audio Driver settings to a SoundBlaster (until we find the problem) - how can you get Logic to start without an audio driver set - like it does on first installation? (we have uninstalled and reinstalled, but it keeps looking for the DSP Factory and crashing) Damian Meadows damianbdf@... York Street Studio Palma de Mallorca York Street Studios

David Condon wrote: > > hi Dave, > another Dave here as it goes........ I would say that there is no quick > way of diciding what keys u want to assign to what (or learning them), but > it soley depends on what u use most I guess. > I tend to use key commands more than the mouse (my mouse is prone to bad > mouse days). Simple things like moving left/right in various windows with > the arrow keys makes life (arranging audio for example) far quicker. Then > using the ctrl key or the alt key along with the arrow keys allows me to > move objects in arrange by bar/tick/format......etc........ > What do u use most Dave - thats the thing..... my key commands change almost > on a weekly basis - depending what phase Im in the process of the song Im > doing at the time....if ya know what I mean.... > see ya Dave, take care Dave....... > > Dave #:-|) Actually , it was Robert who was asking the question :) [I was just putting it to him that it probably wouldn't cost him much more time if he assigned the keycommands himself.] cheers Dave Eager

Can anyone tell me/point me in the direction for info on: Emagic Logic Soundtrack 24, which apparently comes bundled with the Hoontech C-Port (DSP2000?) soundcard. It's apparently sequencer/recording software, and I'm wondering how it compares to the complete Logic Platinum etc in terms of features for sampling/sequencing. I can't find it mentioned anywhere so I'm wondering how complete and usable it is. Apologies for the presumably stupid question. Thanks, David, Australia

Hi all, I just got a Universal Audio UAD 1 in hope for everything to work fine on the first (or second, maybe third) try... Hey, one could ask... Anyway, my setup is a G4/400 AGP, OS 9.2.2, 768 RAM, Adaptec 2940 U2W SCSI card, Digi 001, Direct IO 5.1.1, DigiSystem 5.1.1, LAP 4.81. Everything works great as is, but I just installed the UAD 1, downloaded the 2.2.6 software (the latest and greatest), and whenecer I open a powered plugin I get -6042 errors just seconds after the playback starts. Logic is still running, but I get no sound. I got a -6031 error a couple of times. The Digidesign site says -6042 is a bus too slow error. Could it really be??? I didn't have much information travelling. Universal Audio says the card requires a G3 or better, and a G4 bus would be too slow? Anyone got this thing running? Thanks a lot, andre t __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com

>> My good friend keeps dogging Logic (since 4.0) >> saying that in Audio desk and now Nuendo >> he could remove a pop from a voice by eq ing out the bass >> on the actual "p" without leaving their respective arrange window. >> The situation in logic is totally different >> it might be able to be done in an audiosuite/premiere plug >> if they would still work in logic (i dont know if they still do) >> but there is no destuructive eqing /editing in the sample page. >> > > I kept my 2.8 Waveshell Premiere + plugs around for this purpose. But > it would be nice if Emagic could implement it like Nuendo - all VST > and built-in plugs available in the Sample Editor. > Mars I couldn't agree more that sometimes quick "destructive" plug-in processing is the way to go. I stopped using the waves Premiere plugs after the Waves 3.0 upgrade, and have often missed this ability I was so used too in StudioVision and in Pro Tools - - Mars, how did you keep the two Waveshells going simultaneously? In any case, Peak has a "Bounce Plug-ins to Disk Command" which essentially makes your VST real-time plugs act like audiosuite/premiere/(anyone remember Sound Designer 2 format plug-ins?). (In Peak, it actually allows a bounce of up to 4 inserted VST effects.) Logic could allow inserting of VST or Logic effects on a selected Region in the Sample Editor, then provide such a command to do the processing - after the processing, the plug-ins are removed automatically. Feature Request anyone? Of course the Audiosuite options in Pro Tools are elegant and it's a shame Digi won't distribute the code to other supporting DAWs for it. I've lost track of any Premiere effects, which Logic still supports but nobody seems to use anymore - mostly it was Waves pre-version 3. Jonathan Perl Sonic Arts Center @ The City College Of New York (212) 650-6837 http://sonic.arts.ccny.cuny.edu

not only are emagic's shipping dates way out of whack.. but their _actual_ shipping is also currently unacceptable.. I have had my logic 5 upgrade on order for nearly 2 MONTHS now (!?).. am _still_ using 4.8.1 even though I have an installer disc for version 5 (which came with my MT4) which is useless to me until I get my XSkey. my local distributor in australia (ELFA) told me yesterday that when apple took over emagic, no stock left the building while they did a stocktake/audit.. whatever! I know that there have been people out there on the PC using a crack version of logic 5 for months now, yet a legitimate, professional user like myself can't get it for love or money - this is not right! emagic should be making every effort to update its legitimate users in a fast and seamless manner, not in a way that makes our experience of the product vastly inferior to that of people that find crack versions on the internet!! as a legitimate user, _I_ should be the one that has the latest version of the software from the moment of my choosing, not some highschool kid with a cable modem that says to me 'I've had logic 5 for 6 months, how do you use it? if you had a PC i'd burn you a copy'.. regards antonio gambale [composer] +61 416052800

How can I setup an environment so that when I use the mouse to change one of the parameters inside NI Battery I can tell what CC # is being used. Or if this is too easy a question and someone could tell me where to look in the V.4 manual I would appreciate it. Thanks, Paul

> At 05:07 -0700 05.08.02, Brother Love Canal wrote: > >I am experiencing a bizarre phasing problem on my midi > >Tracks on L.A. 5.1 using the AMT 8. The drum channels > >on my 2 main synths (the Roland JV1080 and the > >Kurzweil K2000) produce a flanging or a phasing effect > >when I use any of the mapped drums. I figure I have > >a timing problem but I can't figure out what or how. > >Anyone else have this problem? From: Michael Haydn > It seems the MIDI events are sent twice. Check the cabling of your > mapped drum instrument. Maybe it sends directly to a specific output > and is additionally cabled to another instrument. when i first installed LAP and set up my environment, i discovered the same problems-- it turns out that my keyboard (a kurzweil k2vx) was set to "local on"-- perhaps you will want to make sure your keyboard is set to MIDI control only (or "Local Off"). good luck, ds.

Hello, Any Logic 5.1.x users have any luck running Pluggo 3.0.3? I get crashes constantly with it on either my G4 450 or my iBook. The 3.0.3 was supposed to fix the Logic issues, but I don't think it did. I'd like to hear from anyone using it successfully. Thanks, Darren

I know this is a pretty easy question but I am new to logic and trying to work out how to use plugins. the logic manual tells you all about them but not how to get them on screen and use them or which screen they are available in. Also I have tried to use Phatfree, I have dragged it to the VST file but again cannot figure out how to access it from in logic. Can someone give me an idiots guide to what to do thanks bob feasey

> Everything works great as is, but I just installed the > UAD 1, downloaded the 2.2.6 software (the latest and > greatest), and whenecer I open a powered plugin I get > -6042 errors just seconds after the playback starts. > Logic is still running, but I get no sound. I got a > -6031 error a couple of times. I've heard of this happening if you use the Digi001 midi ports with OMS. You might want to check out the UAD-1 user group on yahoo or the UAD-1 forum at http://www.chrismilne.com/uadforums/