"ddm14 chez Wanadoo" asked: > anybody tried to have midi control on voice machine with lap 5.0 ????????? Yes, with success. There's one problem, though: When you move the plug ins from the old 4.8 folder to the new 5.0 VST folder, Logic doesn't recognize the Voice Machine as a MIDI-controllable audio instrument (which is needed for complete MIDI control, esp. for the keyboard of the Voice Generator). Don't ask me why - but after a re-install of the Voice Machine (from the CD), everything was working as you'd expect it: 1) The Voice Genereator can be chosen as an audio instrument. 2) In the Voice Generator, you chose the respective audio track as a side chain signal. 3) Then you can play additional voices with your MIDI keyboard (or move the sliders with MIDI commands...). Best, TQ

Thoughts from the mind of Lachlan Deck, 02-04-2002: > > From: Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> > > My guess (from experience with other synths) would be that every time >> you have to send an entire byte with all bits set correctly for all 3 >> functions. So when setting function 1 to have the value "3" (both >> bits on), you cannot simply send a byte 0000 0011, as that would set >> functions 2 and 3 to have value 0. Instead you have to merge the >> values for all 3 functions and send that as a byte. So when all >> functions are set to value 1, you should send 0100 0101 (bits 6, 2 >> and 0 set to 1). > >Unless it's possible to subtract (or add a negative number) certain >values in order to change the whole 8bits. "Unless" what? I don't get what you mean. Something is not possible unless you can subtract? Is that what you intended? But what is 'something' then? >so, >69 + (-1) = 68, 69 + (-5) = 64, 69 + (-64) = 5... > >i.e., >0100 0101 + >11111111 >-------------- >0100 0100 > >0100 0101 + >1111 1011 >-------------- >0100 0001 > >Can the environment do this kind of stuff? Not directly, but you can work around it. First of all, there is no such thing as a negative number in the environment, so adding negatives is not going to happen anyway. That means that somehow you have to store your negative values as positives -- i.e. -5 as +5. And that in turn makes the above simple: use a transformer set to subtract, and use the positive value (from e.g. a fader) as a meta event to set the "subtract value". I.e. dragging the "subtraction fader" to e.g. 5 sends a meta event to a transformer that's then being set to "Sub 5". Easy as pie. The only complication is that often you immediately want to use this subtraction value -- i.e. you have some parameter/fader value set to e.g. 100, you change the subtraction fader to 5, and now you'd like to get an output signal of 95. The way to achieve this is to have the subtraction slider first set the transformer's "Sub" value, and then generate a "bang" that bangs the "100" into the transformer, resulting in a 100-5• output. Not very complicated, really, once you get the idea -- I've done this dozens of times. It would be very convenient however if transformers somehow remembered the last value they received at their input, and if there then was some sort of meta event that not only sets the operations/conditions but also recalculates the result with the last input. A kind of meta-set combined with a bang, all in 1 message and operating within one transformer. Would really save a lot of trouble in such a (quite often needed) scenario. But... uhm... how does all this apply to the original problem of combining multiple bit-level messages into one byte? As far as I can tell, my 1st remark, quoted above, is usually correct: when sending a multi-msgs, consisting of a bit-OR of messages, you have to combine them each time you send the message, since otherwise you'll reset some of them to zero. I haven't gone into the details of how to do this (yet) since I wasn't sure if that was indeed the question... The basic approach would be the same however: generate some "Add xxx" value (meta event "set transformer operations lower value") and bang the other messages' old values to recalculate the result. -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html

Thoughts from the mind of Marc Poirier, 01-04-2002: >Sidechains [...] >I don't know that any of Logic's plugins or any 3rd party ones out >there have implemented such features yet. Compressor, Expander, Noise Gate, Silver Compressor, Silver Gate, AutoFilter are the Logic Plugins offering a sidechain. >What you can definitely use it for now is for getting MIDI messages >(notes & everything) sent to VST effects that handle MIDI & also >instruments that can process audio input. You load the effect or >instrument onto an audio instrument track & then choose an audio >track as in the sidechain menu & the stuff on that audio track will >be routed into the instrument track plugin. Isn't this a bit backwards, conceptually? The track to be manipulated is picked as the sidechain, and the track controlling the plugin is where the plug is actually inserted... Wouldn't it make more sense if you could insert such plugins in an audio track -- as you do with any audio-processing plugins -- and you would then get e.g. a sidechain menu in which you can pick a midi track? Not that I care much, but it's just a thought... -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html

Markus Fritze wrote: >>I wonder if anyone has tried any of the older gport/g4port drivers? I'm >>having trouble remembering when exactly this problem began. Was it when I >>began using LAMP 4.8.1, g4port driver 1.2, or MacOS 9.2.2? ... > >If the rumor is true, then Stealth and Griffin have to develop their own >driver, probably an OMS driver, too. At the moment their "driver" is >trivial: they are just telling the system, that there is a serial port and >then the system uses it's own (modem) driver. > >If anybody still has 9.0.4 on his machine: give it a try! > >I don't expect problems with LA4.8.1, because AFAIK we didn't changed the >serial support and/or MIDI support. There are _no_ problems with LAM 5.0, MAC OS 9.2.2 and the Stealth Port and a Studio 4 or a MTP in FAST mode Some programs like SysEx, and Sound Diver work only or better in "slow" mode. Best -- Cyril Blanc ______________________________________________________ mailto:blanc.cyril@... 92350 Plessis Robinson France The box said 'Requires Windows 95, or better.' So I bought a Macintosh.

At 18:44 -0600 01.04.02, mike vangen wrote: >one question though,i have two rows of solo buttons instead of one row of >solo and one row of mute. >did the person putting them on my unit have to many martinis at >lunch or did you decide not to have the mute buttons? Ouch! Please contact your Emagic distributor for an exchange unit. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Developer (Logic Control integration) Unitor8 Control Project Manager

At 06:35 +0000 02.04.02, Neil Audio wrote: >Can i record automation from multiple faders AT THE SAME TIME? Yes of course. >That would >be the purpose of a hardware fader controller right? I just couldnt seem to >get that happenening. You first have to set automation mode to Touch or Latch on all track you want to automate. The AUTOMATION buttons show the automation state of the selected track. To set automation mode of multiple tracks, either * hold OPTION down while pressing the desired automation mode button or * go to Track Multi Channel View, displaying Automation mode: hold down TRACK, and press the V-Pot push button labelled "Auto" in the LCD. Then you can set automation mode of the eight displayed tracks with the V-Pots. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Developer (Logic Control integration) Unitor8 Control Project Manager

Hi there, > From: "kickindaspeaker" <david@...> > > When the track mixer is in "global", whatever the filter settings, > the "goto midi" attempts and so on, I can't see my midi tracks. I > can see them fine in the adaptive mode, they are in the arrange > window. > > Anyone else noticed that? What does the manual have to say about "Global mode"? Haven't got vs5... > David > http://mp3.com/6ameternal with regards, -- Lachlan Deck ldeck@...

On 02/04/02 02:07, Steve Hillier said: > My situation is that when playing a track and jumping between screen sets, > it sometimes take my Mac up to 10 seconds to draw the screen. > > Any thoughts? Try reducing the number of colours your monitor displays. Ian ------------------------------ Ian G. Morris - Tonewright ian@... "It's one o'clock and time for lunch. Dum-de-dum-de-dum."

> Hello, > I currently have Logic 4.8 (?) and wanted to ask: > Does LAW 4.x run on Windows XP Pro or Home? > Thanks, > Brian I'm using Logic 5 on WinXP pro and Win98 and some small things, like the opening samples in EXS24, work better in XP. But that may not be the case with 4.8, but I guess you will upgrade any day ;-D Best wishes Per Boysen ________________ http://loopboy.tk www.boysen.se www.upsweden.com www.fuzz.se

> > Not to repeat repeat myself, but I wish this optimization would apply >> to the graphic display, too. > >??? They don't affect the playback/recording performance. I meant optimization of space, ergonomics and looks space : when you're on the edge of maxing out it does make a difference if the plug-in you want to display is 250x200 pixels or 500x400... ergonomics & looks : look at the Renaissance EQ for an example BTW the automation is fantastic ! (ergonomics & look)

Zaki Wasik wrote: >I've tried to connect an old midiman mini macman >interface to my PowerBook Titanium, using a Keyspan >adapter on the USB port. Unfortunately it does not >work >For everyday use I have my emagic MT4 usb-interface, >but it doesn't work with the HearMaster demo, which >I'm trying to get to work. HearMaster only gives me >the option of choosing Printer or Serial connection. >Is there any way to make a workaround of this problem? >The demo obiously is of an incredible old date, but >does anyone here know if it's the same case with the >full-version which I am considering to buy? Normally midi only works with the Gport and the Stealth port. I have heard of a user saying it is working in OMS Best -- Cyril Blanc ______________________________________________________ mailto:blanc.cyril@... 92350 Plessis Robinson France The box said 'Requires Windows 95, or better.' So I bought a Macintosh.

>I guess the answer is that all those software are included in the >Logic 5.0 CD, so all you need is the Logic 5.0 CD and an >authorization, and you can install EXS24, ES1 etc...(you might >have to just reinstall everything, Logic included). So the Logic 5 "upgrade" CD is the full version or is it not? It would have to be to install with XP right? i burned a backup of my 4.6 cd before i sent it out just in case there were problems. My only wish/concern is that music stores were more informed about the whole update procedure. They're clueless here in Toronto. ~Neil

Thanks That is what I thought it should do > Let's say you have a bunch of automation throughout the song. And then > at Bar 10 you decide you want the current value to exist all the way > to the end (or right locator). So you invoke this command and then you > have the current value existing as a straight line all the way to the end > (or right locator). BUT I can't seem to get it to work. Say I record a bunch of austomation in a sine wave type pattern for 4 bars. I put the spp at a point of a crest at bar 2 2 0 0. Now if I try the function 'write to end' nothing is altered. The rest of the sine wave pattern and automation data is not altered. Obviously I am doing something wrong, otherwise it would have been mentioned by other people, but what else do should I be doing? I am using LAWP 5.1 Thanks Kim

From: Michael Haydn <mhaydn@...> > >Anymore comments about the seperate bank offsets in global mode? > > It will be implemented in one of the next sub-releases. Thanks Micheal I REALLY appreciate that you guys listen to user comments!!!! This is wonderful news. Kim

Jonathan Christensen wrote: >>The RME stuff isn't exactly built like tanks.......fairly thin steel build, >>almost aluminum......tin can like...... >Huh? As an owner of both an RME Digiface and a MOTU 2408, I can tell you >that this couldn't be farther from the truth. The RME stuff is solidly >built, well designed and performs perfectly. In addition, I think RME >writes far better ASIO drivers . . .and RME's TotalMix makes Motu's >CueMix look like a total joke. Do you manage to make your RME working together with your Motu 2048 with Logic Audio ? Best -- Cyril Blanc ______________________________________________________ mailto:blanc.cyril@... 92350 Plessis Robinson France The box said 'Requires Windows 95, or better.' So I bought a Macintosh.

> I use a MTPAV midi interface which unfortunately will disappear > after periods of inactivity, requiring the USB connection to be > replugged. I would consider this as a bug. Probably your USB HUB has a problem! > Is it possible that the XSKey can allow replugging - by asking > "XSKey not found, please reattach the XSKey" without needing a > Logic restart, instead of forcing "please reattach the XSKey and > reboot Logic"? Sorry, no. The XSKey holds the status of Logic in its internal memory. Unplugging it, will corrupt this. MMM -- Markus Fritze Emagic Soft- und Hardware GmbH <http://www.emagic.de>; Chief Developer New Technology Integration, Mac OS

> So the Logic 5 "upgrade" CD is the full version or is it not? It would have > to be to install with XP right? Correct. MMM -- Markus Fritze Emagic Soft- und Hardware GmbH <http://www.emagic.de>; Chief Developer New Technology Integration, Mac OS

--- In logic-users@y..., Markus Fritze <mfritze@m...> wrote: > I would consider this as a bug. Probably your USB HUB has a > problem! Nothing else on the hub goes away, the old dongle, XSKey, MT4 are still visible. It seems to be a problem with the MTP AV - users on the MOTU-mac list complain about it too... > Sorry, no. The XSKey holds the status of Logic in its internal > memory. Unplugging it, will corrupt this. OK John Pitcairn

Hi Rob, >I'm running LAW 4.8.1 and I can't turn off the audio from a video...I have >tried checking and unchecking the Enable Audio of Video check box in the >Video Player Settings dialog box to no avail...is this a known bug? Any >workarounds besides stripping the audio off the video? Try unloading the video and resave the song minus the video. (write down any settings, SMPTE offset...etc you might need.) Now, open the song, go to the video section and make sure audio is disabled and import the video, sound should now be off. Howard

RBHPrductions wrote: >Nope that is not the solution. I checked for rewire don't have it >installed. I took out all the Fat Eq's in a song I was having >trouble with and it stilled came up about 45 seconds intothe song. >Any other suggestions? I am so frustrated and it seems this error >message appears in Windows based systems too. So it must be a flaw >in Logic itself. Hi. This rings a bell. I had a Logic song a couple of years ago that just stopped for no reason at the very same spot what ever I did. I ended up dragging all regions from the damaged song to a new untitled song. All at once after first making the tracks the same(Same order and type)as well as the tempo. I then copied/pasted the plugins via Audioconfigurations and then it worked. Give it a try. Another possibility could be a severe fragmented audiofile. Best Lennart -- TAKING CARE of AUDIO(tm) tca@...

> Zaki Wasik wrote: > >For everyday use I have my emagic MT4 usb-interface, > >but it doesn't work with the HearMaster demo, which > >I'm trying to get to work. HearMaster only gives me > >the option of choosing Printer or Serial connection. Can HearMaster use OMS? If so you could use the OMS driver for the MT4. John Pitcairn

Thoughts from the mind of johnpitcairn, 02-04-2002: >--- In logic-users@y..., Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@k...> wrote: >> And that also works with >> messages of, say, 10 bytes or longer? > >Dunno, you'll have to try it. I just did, and this is what I found: SysEx messages of 15 bytes (including StartOfExc and EndOfExc) are still recognised. You can thus use a message like 240 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 - 11 - 12 - 13 - VAL - 247 It doesn't seem to matter where the VAL byte is. Longer messages are not recognised, regardless of the position of the VAL byte. Unrecognised messages (i.e. msgs that are too long) are passed through a fader unaltered, as one would expect. For the rest the following buggy behaviour seems present (Markus, Michael, care to comment? And John, thanks for pointing this one out earlier) Setting a fader to SysEx 'In' and either Meta or Fader 'Out' doesn't work properly: the incoming sysex is recognised, and a value is sent out based on the *third* byte of the message (counting all bytes -- so that would be value "3" in the example message above). An obvious workaround is to have the fader convert incoming sysex to some controller, and use a transformer to make the controller into either a Meta or Fader event. Obvious question: now that this finally works, why on earth is it limited to 15-byte messages??? -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html

Thoughts from the mind of Vincent Kenis, 24-03-2002: >At 12:19 +0100 020324, Hendrik Jan Veenstra wrote: >> >5. Faster than realtime bounce >> >>Nope, and not likely to appear anytime soon. > >Where did you get that info ? Religiously reading the LUG. >What about SLOWER than realime bounce ;-) ? Ditto. -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html

Thoughts from the mind of highlandsource, 25-03-2002: >--- In logic-users@y..., Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@k...> wrote: >> Yes, v5 seems to be a bit more taxing on the CPU (that is, until > > the G4 optimised version arrives :). A song that ran at 90-95% in > > 4.8.1 maxed out my CPU in v5. > >huh? v5 isnt g4 optimised? Not more than v4 was. A later release will contain a bunch of optimised plugins, which should give a massive increase in performance (if you use those plugins). -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html

Thoughts from the mind of Lachlan Deck, 26-03-2002: [muting individual tracks/sub-tracks] > > Uh.. yes, sounds like a simple way out indeed :-). So Italic could >> either mean "entire track muted' or "section of the track muted". > >Or maybe it is easier to make the mute button look like an itemized >check list. BTW, sorry to repsond so late, but I just discovered a whole backlog of LUG mail had turned up suddenly -- out of view in my mailbox, since it's over a week old... So: you suggest some kind of popup list with subtracks mute-status? Pressing the mute button pops up this list or so? Doesn't seem very practical... although in itself such a popup would have its merits indeed. >i.e., when an item that has sub-items is ticked, for example, it means >that all enclosed items are also ticked. If one of them in the group is >not ticked then the group item has a dash or hyphen to show that all >items are not ticked. OK, that's standard behaviour and makes sense. >So, normal operations on this would be: >If one or more, but not all, items in the group are muted, then clicking >once on the main item - to mute all - and then again will unmute all and >therefore allow an easy reset. Or maybe this is better as an >Opt/mac+click or Ctl/win+click to do a reset... But where does the mutalble-items-list appear then? The above sounds as if you're talking about the plain old mute button. >Screen sets should effect the status of a track being armed or not. Only >whether or not you see that track on the screen-set. I suppose you meant "should NOT effect..." :-) -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html