the problem is a long-standing bug in Logic, hopefully to be fixed in 5.0. The option parameter "Release Audio in Background" is supposed to alleviate this, but doesn't work. Workarounds -- save the file under another name, and replace the file you edited with the new one, I suppose.... > -----Original Message----- > From: Massimo "Spee "Spinetti [mailto:spinettim@...] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:41 AM > To: logic-users@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [LUG] LAW: external sample editor > > > > Hi, > I've got another simple question (I suppose). I managed to define a key > command for starting my external sample editor (Wavelab). The problem is > that once the file has opened I can edit it but cannot save it because > Wavelab says it used by another application (which I assume is Logic). > So what is the problem? > Thanks again. > This list is great. > > > Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > >>>>> Please include [LAM]/[LAW]/[GEN]/[OT] in your subject line <<<<< > > FAQ: http://www.logicuser.net > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

> > I was under the impression that "Release Audio in Background" actually > > meant releasing the audio *driver* in the background, not any used audio > > files. But if I'm wrong, I stand corrected :) > > That's actually what it means. Necessary if you have no additional audio > card for multimedia purposes, external wave editors and the likes. > Anyways, even if it would work it'd only make true sense along with some > "release files in background" feature. Correct me if I am wrong but I though that the short time when LA worked with external sample editors was when this feature was working. Or did it never work at all? Regards, Nathan ___ Nathan Rosenberg music production The Doghouse NYC www.doghouseNYC.com

what kind of consumer wants OS level systems that don't work? Consumers that buys macs are likely to be doing it for some media-related feature, I bet (audio, video, web stuff). Why would Apple hire the guy who built OMS (which is still going many years later) and have him amke something substandard? I doubt you COULD pay him to do something bad... I'm sure he wouldn't have too much trouble finding another job. MT >I wrote: >> > >A sales rep from a local audio hard- and software distributor >here in >> > >Denmark, who I talked to the other day, were not so optimistic as >> > >C.K. regarding the future of MIDI in osX. His concern was, that a >> > >MIDI engine written into the os would be mostly pointed towards >> > >the "ordinary" consumer, and might be inadequate for pro users' >> > >needs. I guess we'll just have to wait and see about this. > >Joe Egan replied (much later in the thread): >so your sales representative is likely indulging > > himself in unwarranted and maybe self serving speculations. > >Surely, the sales rep I was quoting was speaking his own mind and >concerns here. I hope I have not given the impression that he tried >to raise this pow as the official politics of any given company. To >my understanding this rep was merely trying to raise a point (like >all the users here do all the time), which I also think is very valid. >His speculations may well be unwarranted, but I doubt they would >qualify as "self serving". >BTW, he doesn't rep logic or emagic products in any way... > >regards > >monsdrum > --

Jeff_Cardoni wrote: > I converted Burning Grooves Akai kits to EXS24. Sound great. How do > I get the stick high hats to cut off (stop) the open high hat? On > Giga you set up a Keygroup, but I'm not as familiar with EXS > editing. Any help would be appreciated. If the hihat zones aren't allready pointing to a group (note: should be a group dedicated to hats only), create a new group, send all the hihats to that group and set the "No. of voices" parameter to "1". Regards, Sascha

Open The EXS24 Instrument Editor for the Instrument. This is done by clicking Edit on the EXS24's GUI or under Audio>EXS24 Instrument Editor in the Logic Pull Down Menus. Make sure the hats you want are on the same group. If not, create one via "New Group" in the editors pull down menu. Set the voices option to 1. Drum away... Clive Young

Does anyone know of a Win 2000 or XP example of a virtual midi app such as Hubi's Loop Back...(which is not available for these OSs)? I am trying to use something called MidiYoke which is not working properly - giving midi feedback errors for no reason - and whose website basically says - "it's flaky under NT/2000 and that's that"! This is to automate directX plugins via midi - I understand that Logic 4 isn't completely VST2 compliant? and thus doesn't properly automate VST fx or synths....? But this will change in V5 (maybe?)

try it from the Event window. > -----Original Message----- > From: Massimo "Spee "Spinetti [mailto:spinettim@...] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 7:22 AM > To: logic-users@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [LUG] LAW: audio sequences quantize > > > > Hi everybody, > A friend of mine sent me a song made with LAW. I found out he used drums > sample in a very strange way. He manually inserted them in a audio track > at the right beats and now I need to quantize the starting point of the > audio sequences in another way. Is it possible? > I tried many way but I can't figure out if there's a solution. > Hope you can help me! > Thanks in advance. > > > > Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > >>>>> Please include [LAM]/[LAW]/[GEN]/[OT] in your subject line <<<<< > > FAQ: http://www.logicuser.net > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

Hi Jules and all those that have replied. Thank you for the help, unfortunately I spent nearly 12 hours on this yesterday and still no change. Before I explain what I did.... I have one big question, when I say I get 16 Platinum verbs only...I mean STEREO platinum verbs on a STEREO track, when all these people are happy about getting 30 plus are they talking about STEREO or MONO verbs? Because my p3 733 can run 30 plus mono platinum verbs easily and use less resources than my 1800xp. So if anyone can clarify this I would be most grateful, because I have spent so much time on this its getting very frustrating. I have downloaded and installed the latest 4 in 1 drivers and I have checked all the patches on the viatech and via arena sites, my bios has been tweaked and re tweaked endlessly over the last few days. I also put the 2 hard drives on the ide controllers and the DVD and CD burner on the promise controller etc... All my IRQs are fine, the hammerfall is on its own IRQ and I have disable USB support at times in Bios as well. The device manager has been checked and adjusted many times, but its fine. Nothing makes any difference at all, and thats why I am asking this question about the mono stereo platinumverb thing. I tested the spectral gate and yes I was able to get 22 or 23 stereo spectral gates before it folded, but most DX plugs dont run as well as on a simple Pentium3 and thats what really counts to me. For those who havent been follwing this thread I am on Win 98 se and my computer details are in message 93344 and yes the AMD XP 1800 is running at its proper clock speed. Thanks in advance. Cheers Harvey Mann --- In logic-users@y..., "Jules Bromley" <jules@t...> wrote: > Harvey > > Check viahardware.com (http://www.viahardware.com/download/index.shtm#4in1) > to make sure you have the latest chipset drivers, patches etc. I'd also > check with Asus that you have the latest bios for your board. Often new > boards get a couple of bios revisions quite quickly after they're released > to fix problems that weren't resolved prior to shipping. > > Also, for the sake of troubleshooting, when you move your drives to the IDE > controller, I'd disable the Promise altogether (at least temporarily) and > see if it helps. If it does, then stick your CDR's on the IDE's secondary > port. Two IDE controllers active on one board is going to suck some power > from the system. FWIW, also check the promise website for the latest > drivers and controller bios, just in case. > > Jules > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "hjmmann" <harvey_mann@h...> > To: <logic-users@y...> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:04 AM > Subject: [LUG] Re: LAW: AMD XP 1800 vs Pentium > > > > Thanks Dr Budz and jules and others that replied. > > I have been encouraged in hearing that some are getting 30 plus > > platinum verbs with the AMD XP processors. > > OK today I spent the whole day disabling things and re setting up > > things in bios and in the device manager but I couldn't get the > > performance to improve. > > I did do the test with the spectral gates and was able to get about > > 22 or 23 before the Asio folded, so it looks like that part is on > > track, the platuinum verbs are still only about 16 to 20 wich > > according to several on this list is sub standard. > > My next plan is to move the drives to the ide controllers and put the > > cd burner and DVD player on the promise controller. > > So if any one else has any suggestions that might help I would be > > really keen. > > For those that dont know what chipset is on my system read message > > 93344 for details. > > Any help is greatly appreciated. > > I read an earlier message that said there is a Via patch that does > > something to free memory from the promise raid controller or > > something similair but I cant find it today, so the current situation > > is no better, but hopefully with help I'll get to the bottom of it. > > Cheers > > Harvey Mann > > > > --- In logic-users@y..., "doctorbudz" <doctorbudz@y...> wrote: > > > > > > > Some people wrote before and asked if I set it up right...well I > > > have > > > > been using computers and Logic since the C-Lab Atari days so I > > have > > > a > > > > pretty good idea on all the issues. > > > > > > > > > No offence Harvey, but no-one knows *everything*. I thought I had a > > > pretty good idea too. I set up an AthlonXP 1800+ machine with an > > Asus > > > A7M266 motherboard, and was getting 22 platinumverbs, which > > perplexed > > > me a little. With a little help from some of the good folks on this > > > list (cheers Graham ;>) I tried a few troubleshooting tips which > > > hadn't occurred to me at first. After a few things, I tried taking > > > out my USB MIDI interface (Roland SMPU-64 - now sold as the UM- 4) > > and > > > the performance shot up like a rocket. In the end I found an option > > > on the SMPU-64 driver in Device Manager called "Light Load" - I > > > checked this and all my problems were gone : without this option > > > checked, my USB interface was causing severe disruption to the > > > memory bus. It can really be as simple as a weird driver issue. Of > > > course, your motherboard chipset is EXTREMELY important as well. > > > > > > I think it is also important to remember that the PlatinumVerbs > > > benchmark measures CPU processing AND memory bandwidth. A more > > > accurate benchmark for just CPU power is the Spectral Gate test > > (I'd > > > be interested to see how the P4 users are getting on on that > > one ;>). > > > > > > For the record, here are my current figures of Platinumverbs and > > > Spectral Gates, followed by details of my setup : > > > > > > Platinum Verbs : 37 > > > Spectral Gates : 25 > > > > > > AMD Athlon XP 1800+ > > > Asus A7M266 (AMD761 chipset) > > > 512MB Crucial DDR RAM (CL2.5 running at CL2) > > > 20gig UDMA100 7200 RPM HD > > > 4gig UW SCSI HD > > > Adaptec 2940 UW SCSI Controller > > > RME Hammerfall 9636 (running at 6ms latency) > > > Matrox G400 32mb Dual-head AGP Graphics card > > > Linksys LAN card > > > Windows XP Pro OS (heavily tweaked of course) > > > Logic 4.81 > > > > > > > > > peace > > > > > > > > Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@y... > > > > >>>>> Please include [LAM]/[LAW]/[GEN]/[OT] in your subject line <<<<< > > > > FAQ: http://www.logicuser.net > > > > Your use of Yahoo! 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Jan 31st, 5:50pm (Mississauga, Canada) B&W G3/450, OS 9.1 G4/400, OS 9.1 Lately 2 LAM friends of mine are having icon problems. Their VST & mp3 file icons have changed to blank (whitish) look & won't load. They have to re-install them to get them back up. Type & Creator have not changed....most odd! And the solution is.................? David Norris-Elye / Towne Music <www.bigfoot.com/~dnerd>

>> 32-bit float is way more than Audio will ever need as a representation >> from module to module. > > I don't think you can really say that, since as you pointed out 32 bit > floats have a 24 (well, actually it's 25) bit mantissa. > > See, the mantissa is the thing that dictates the noise floor. So if > you're > starting out with actually 24 bit audio (you can buy actual 22 bit > converters these days, db Technology and a couple others, so it could > happen!), you'd want a little headroom in your number representation. You get the headroom by means of the exponent, which lets you go beyond the range of 24-bit integers. So you can get all the headroom you want, you will just not get more than 24-bit resolution aka precision. That however, I would say is sufficient. There is already very little difference to be heard between an optimal 16-bit and 24-bit recording (emphasis on optimal. The big issue with most 16-bit audio is that it was recorded 16-bit integer, with headroom, and the resolution is then more like 11-12 bit). Going beyond 24-bit may be a futile exercise, because unless we introduce liquid nitrogen cooled home stereos, the noise floor of the playback (and recording) equipment is much higher. The next evolution in audio is to hopefully get rid of the woefully inadequate, Dolby and DTS dominated surround sound systems and a move to periphonic, realistic B-format based Ambisonics... At the same time we'll have to send audio engineers to a forced reeducation camp to beat the idea of pan-pots out of their brains, because volume levels will never be enough for realistic sound location. We'll need software and equipment that does true 3D auralization, i.e. takes phase, timing and volume into proper consideration when trying to generate a stereo or surround effect. All of these I'd rather spend my money on, than seeing 32-bit or 48 or 64-bit audio that's mastered and produced with the same flawed paradigms. But I digress. The beauty of Logic is that it supports M-S Stereo mastering (hope that didn't get axed out of 5.0), which is roughly the Stereo equivalent to B-format periphonic recording. > So to be completely anal, double precision IEEE float (64 bit float, I > think > it's 57 bit mantissa) would be practically transparent, but would > double the > audio bandwidth requirements, for example to disk, to powercore/UA-1, > etc. As I said before, for intermediate calculations within an algorithm, that may or may not be required, depending on the math involved. For passing audio data around, it's overkill. People seem to underestimate the fact that each bit added *doubles* the resolution, it's not an additive process. We're talking 2^16*44.1kHz (CD Audio) vs. 2^24*96kHz Worlds apart in terms of resolution, yet subjectively quite close optimal recording, mastering and playback equipment. 99%+ can't afford either the space or the equipment to even approximage optimal conditions. That's why I consider more than 24-bit resolution overkill. Ronald ============================================================================ "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." G.B. Shaw | rcfa@... | NeXT-mail welcome

This has happened on my G4-400, OS 9.1 where it is the HD icon on my desktop that all of a sudden changes from its normal icon to something completely different, this time its an icon of a folder with what looks like an extension icon directly in front of it. The name of the HD is intialized as well, usually to like a dot or a slash. My drive itself seems unchanged. Its quite strange and folks here at Tekserve (Mac place in nyc) said they had never heard of it, but its happened to me a bunch over the past year or so. Very weird. -Dave Reid Towne Music wrote: > Jan 31st, 5:50pm (Mississauga, Canada) > > B&W G3/450, OS 9.1 > G4/400, OS 9.1 > > Lately 2 LAM friends of mine are having icon problems. Their VST & mp3 file > icons have changed to blank (whitish) look & won't load. They have to > re-install them to get them back up. Type & Creator have not changed....most > odd! And the solution is.................? > > David Norris-Elye / Towne Music > <www.bigfoot.com/~dnerd> > > Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > >>>>> Please include [LAM]/[LAW]/[GEN]/[OT] in your subject line <<<<< > > FAQ: http://www.logicuser.net > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

----- Original Message ----- From: "Lennart Wåhlin" <tca@...> Thanx a whole lot Lennart for your effort. >I assume You checked the -original- file. The merged file will most >likely not report any DC-Offset since it has a reference of the zero >in the silent parts. I´m not sure of that is the case tho... No DC.offset on either file >Hmm. See if toggeling "Audio > Search Zero Crossing" makes any >difference..I can´t think of anything more at the moment. Been there - Done that... I did try your tips about going out the adat out and in again on the adat in on my multiface and it worked like a charm (well at least when I found out that you had to set the Hammerfall clock mode to "Master" and not "Autosync" I tracked 8in/out like a charm and that sounds perfect - no clipping. The biggest problem now is that I don't know what happens with the mergefunction. Why doesn't it sound as when played? Well the original post about Logic needing a "Consolidate track"/"Render tracks" solution like in ProTools and Paris still stands. I saw Cubase and Nuendo also doing this today. They do it from the file menu and they get options for adding pluggins, inserts, send effects etc.. Real Nice. Come on Emagic ;) -- Arvid Solvang http://www.viagram.no/

Rebuild the desktop database file by holding down the cmd+option keys during the startup process when booting the machine RG Towne Music wrote: > Jan 31st, 5:50pm (Mississauga, Canada) > > B&W G3/450, OS 9.1 > G4/400, OS 9.1 > > Lately 2 LAM friends of mine are having icon problems. Their VST & mp3 file > icons have changed to blank (whitish) look & won't load. They have to > re-install them to get them back up. Type & Creator have not changed....most > odd! And the solution is.................? > > David Norris-Elye / Towne Music > <www.bigfoot.com/~dnerd> > > Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > >>>>> Please include [LAM]/[LAW]/[GEN]/[OT] in your subject line <<<<< > > FAQ: http://www.logicuser.net > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Hi in case anyone missed the thread about the AMDXP 1800+ vs Pentium platinum verb test. My tests on the AMD XP1800+ were done with STEREO platinumverbs on a stereo track and I was able to get roughly 18 or 19 then the system folded (asio overload) on a Hammerfall card, whereas my old P3 733 mhz can get more STEREO platinum verbs on stereo tracks than that and thats using a hoontech card on a crippled version of WIN ME. My computer details are in (message 93344) and I have spent lots of hours changing everything on my new AMD to no avail, the performance on the PVerbs has not altered one bit. So I figured we may be speaking a different language on the PVerbs in that mine are stereo on sterep tracks and I am not sure if these 30 plus verbs tests that people are saying is good are actually mono PVerbs. If this is true then I have to conclude that this is less than ideal performance for me at least, and I need to get a P4 asap. If I am wrong and there is something I have missed in setting up my AMD XP800+ on a new ASUS mB with the new Via KT66A chipset etc...then I am all ears, but so far I have read countless posts, gone to Via's website, installed the latest 4 in 1 drivers, tweaked the bios etc etc etc...and non of it has made a scrap of difference. So if anyone can shed anymore light on this before I buy a P4 (this afternoon) it would be appreciated. I also have friend who runs cubase and he reports the same thing...he's very computer litterate BTW, I am not saying he knows everything, but he certainly knows how to tweak things and he's open minded. But he claims his AMD XP 1900+ on Cubase is far short of his P4s performance in running plug ins etc...therfore he uses the P4 only. I am not rubbishing AMDs (it runs my 3d modeling and rendering programs very well indeed. but Logic...well...not so good!! If there is something I have missed and I am wrong, then please understand..I will be happy to be wrong. But so far nothing at all has worked. Cheers Harvey Mann

I think it has to do with norton disk doctor, anyhow, select the drive/get info/select the icon, hit delete and its back to the default, you can use this method to copy and paste any icon you like "in case you did not know", rebuild the desktop and to be safe use a utility called DiskWarrior "again in case you don¹t know about it!".

--- In logic-users@y..., "Voodoo" <godo.voodoo@n...> wrote: > Does anyone know of a Win 2000 or XP example of a virtual midi app such as > Hubi's Loop Back...(which is not available for these OSs)? You coud try Sonic Foundry Virtual Midi Router...should be 2000 compatible but I have no experience of it. Regards Murray

Hi Tod, I guess we should take this OT, but for the list readers I believe this has been the case since Windows 2000 (that is, the documents and settings folder contents will be wiped which is where users' 'my documents' and other personal folders are stored) when performing a reinstall of the OS. An upgrade will always keep data and the registry intact but a reinstall over an existing install, will wipe this folder. Either go to a dos prompt and move the data from that folder (if you are on NTFS, then use the manual autorecovery option on the 2K / XP CD which will give you a DOS prompt), otherwise install XP / 2K on a different drive letter than the one which has the data / information in documents & settings, that you want to keep. Regards, Jase. -----Original Message----- From: Tod Moses [mailto:todmoses@...] Thanks for the hard data. My experience has been with clean installing over 98se. So what you are saying is that if you do a clean install XP over XP then you will lose data? If so, that is very much worth knowing. My only question is: has that been the case with other versions of Windows? I would be interested in the fix for future reference. Thanks Jase. ------------------------------------------------------------ This e-mail may be confidential. Any opinions expressed herein are the opinion of the writer unless there is an express indication to the contrary. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies and immediately reply by return e-mail. Ipex ITG disclaims all liability and responsibility for any direct or indirect loss arising from this e-mail and/or any attachments.

>I'm new to Logic, but in the last few days I found out that we have: >- no external editor feature >- no offline track mix option >- no self respecting automation >Let me ask you guys, why do you use Logic? I bought it because I have >an Asio card now, but also use Sonar 1.31 with my other non-Asio card >and can tell you that it has all these functions very well developed >plus any other option that I've found so far in Logic. I really hope >I did not waste my money in something that is just fashionable but >not really good >I hope I did not offend anyone ***************************************************************** Hi, 1. there are some issues in these areas with Logic at the moment. As I understand it, the imminent V5 release will address the automation issues. 2. I don't know if an offline bounce will be available (there are good reasons for real time bounce but many would like an offline bounce for CPU only situations). 3. The external editor feature is currently broken due to a bug. It did work in some earlier versions. Many of us are hoping that this will also be fixed in V5. I originally got Logic because of the powerful Midi feature set and still love using it. In general, every update gets significantly better. I am really looking forward to V5. Check out http://www.tweakheadz.com/review_of_logic_5.htm for an early look at some of the expected improvements. I certainly don't consider it a lemon. Ray

> >betasonic wrote: > >>I am able to get 18 PVs on my DP800, I use the VGA on twinview and a >>second ATI VR128 card with >>only two ATI extensions enabled, no 3D. This is with a digi 001, I also >>tried a audiowerk 2 and >>got only 13 PV's going! > >Huh, the AW takes away that much? Interesting. > >Thanks for your reply. > >Best > >Ray Well . .. here's something else interesting. I get 26 PV's on my Dual 800 using the MOTU 2408 (which is what I happened to have hooked up right now . . I'll check the Hammerfall DSP later). It seems the driver is a very key ingredient here, or Betasonic needs to make sure he has Multiprocessor enabled ;-) BTW . . I do not have the TwinView. I use 2 ATI cards (1 AGP, 1 PCI) to drive my two monitor setup. I do not however, think this would be a huge factor in PV count. I also think that the Mac PV is buggy with MP right now . .as I've seen error messages pop up with just 1 in line (as we previously discussed, Ray) best, Jon -- config-- Apple G4 Dual 800, 1.5 gig of ram, Mac OS 9.2.2, RME Hammerfall DSP/ Digiface, MOTU 2408, MOTU MTP AV (USB), Apogee WC Master, Spirit Digital 328 (digital mixer/controller), ATI Radeon AGP, ATI Rage128 (second monitor).

> Btw. Apple sells 5 DVD-R discs for around 25 dollars or around 35 > Euros which makes the media not that much more expensive than CD-R. What is the capacity again (I forgot)? I usually get TDK CD-R media for about $.50 per disc (800mB), so that is about $.62 per gig. Of course, at some point media becomes cheap enough so that comparisons are pointless. We may be at that point now. Still, I'd like to see at least a 4x speed improvement over the latest CD-R drives. at least until disk swapping starts to kill me. Fortunately, I haven't quite reached that point yet. I'm used to conserving my disk from the old days when storage was a lot more expensive. It's kind of the principle of the thing. In order for a new technology to be worth buying the expensive new drive, the media should be much cheaper and the drive much faster. It used to be this way, it seems. But DVD will probably catch on anyway and then get cheaper, just because there is no realistic competition I can see, except in the very high end backup market.

26 PV!!!!! I'd be interested to know what the hammerfall does! BTW, MP is enabled, stripped extensions, I've been using Mac's since the 128K days please let me know, I need the digi 001 cause I use pro tools alot, but I would put in another card for logic if I got better performance, perhaps a MOTU firewire interface or an RME. seems people that have posted to the DNS website regarding CPU performance have gotten better results than me with a 533DP, I know the cache scheme is not as good on the quicksilver G4's as on previous Dual G4's. It would be intersting to compare all the interfaces and their performancce on a dual 800. BTW I have a DP500 as well and I only gained a 25-30 % increase with the DP800, same set up digi 001, although I'm running OS 9.2.2 on the DP800 and 9.04 on the DP500 betasonic __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com

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The cool thing about 32 bit is the notion of "absolute volume". Never set levels again! What you put in is what you get out! Inaudible or deafening, it doesn't matter! Maybe orchestral purists would like knowing they are listening to the recording at EXACTLY the same volume as the original performance (presuming they've tuned their nitrogen-cooled poweramp correctly) or not. e ----- Original Message ----- > more like 11-12 bit). Going beyond 24-bit may be a futile exercise, > because unless we introduce liquid nitrogen cooled home stereos, > the noise floor of the playback (and recording) equipment is much > higher. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

>> >>betasonic wrote: >> >>>I am able to get 18 PVs on my DP800, I use the VGA on twinview and a >>>second ATI VR128 card with >>>only two ATI extensions enabled, no 3D. This is with a digi 001, I also >>>tried a audiowerk 2 and >>>got only 13 PV's going! >> >>Huh, the AW takes away that much? Interesting. >> >>Thanks for your reply. >> >>Best >> >>Ray > >Well . .. here's something else interesting. I get 26 PV's on my Dual 800 >using the MOTU 2408 (which is what I happened to have hooked up right now >. . . I'll check the Hammerfall DSP later). It seems the driver is a very >key ingredient here, or Betasonic needs to make sure he has >Multiprocessor enabled ;-) > >BTW . . I do not have the TwinView. I use 2 ATI cards (1 AGP, 1 PCI) to >drive my two monitor setup. I do not however, think this would be a huge >factor in PV count. I also think that the Mac PV is buggy with MP right >now . .as I've seen error messages pop up with just 1 in line (as we >previously discussed, Ray) > >best, >Jon OK . . with the Hammerfall DSP I get 25 PV and 13 SG. What's also interesting is that when I turn Multiprocessing off . . I get 21 PV's (so that's 1 800 G4 running). But the graphics are absolutely abysmal. Regardless, it's quite evident that Logic's current MP implimentation leaves a substantial amount of untapped processor laying here. But, it is very stable, and the unaffected screen redraws are essential in my opinion. best, Jon -- config-- Apple G4 Dual 800, 1.5 gig of ram, Mac OS 9.2.2, RME Hammerfall DSP/ Digiface, MOTU 2408, MOTU MTP AV (USB), Apogee WC Master, Spirit Digital 328 (digital mixer/controller), ATI Radeon AGP, ATI Rage128 (second monitor).