Hi, Check out maxim's excellent freeware VST plug-in packs. Among the brilliant and useful effects and synts in there is a plugin called BeatBox which is a drum replacement plug-in. That could maybe do the trick for you. It has built in sounds but you can also record your own. Check it out: http://www.maxim.abel.co.uk/vst/ Jonas > --- In logic-users@y..., bryan.peters@m... wrote: > >Is there a way to have the kick drum track trigger a sampled kick via > the midi functions or otherwise??

> It crashes Logic as it is opening on my system (G3) > Paul > > ---------- >> From: Eli Krantzberg <elik@...> >> To: Logic-users <logic-users@yahoogroups.com> >> Subject: [LUG] LAMP: PolyFractus DR-Verb >> Date: Tue, Apr 3, 2001, 1:04 am >> > >> Hi All, >> >> I just tried that new free reverb demo LogicDaddy posted the link to. It >> sounds great, but crashes Logic. It just hangs on Quit. I remove the >> plugin and all becomes fine again. Anyone else experience this? >> >> >> >> -- >> Eli Krantzberg >> Nightshift Orchestra / Almat Productions >> >> >> >> Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com >> >>>>>>> Subject lines MUST contain: [LAM]/[LAW]/[GEN]/[OT] <<<<< >> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> >> >> > > Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > >>>>>> Subject lines MUST contain: [LAM]/[LAW]/[GEN]/[OT] <<<<< > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Same thing. ed

Hi there. I am new to this group and have a question: is there anywhere anyone who has made an environment for the roland xv 3080 ? I read somwhere in the web that someone called frank zabo is working on one - but i havent found that. any suggestions ??? markus

maybe it is your mouse ,i had the same problems with a new optical usb mouse a few weeks ago ,if u find the solution let me know. goblin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Kauffelt" <ak@...> To: <logic-users@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 2:47 AM Subject: [LUG] LAWP: 4.6.1 - Audio Interruptions caused by Mausclick ! > Hi there, > > i have hd some problems since a longer time with my Gigabyte BX board with > P2-300. > Now i changed to Asus A7V & Athlon T 1Ghz. Still the same! > > Example: > I have 4 Bars playing in Cycle Mode. 5 Exs24 with percuccion sounds > and some MIDI sequences. > > When i click in Arrange Window on AudioInst1 then AudioInst2 this causes > a short click and an audio interuption in this channell. > That happens also when i change the selection to audio tracks and back to > Audio Inst. > > I am not sure if i using some wrong graphic or audio settings. Maybe the > Matrox is > the fault i don´t know. > > Anyone can help? > > thanks > > Andreas > > > > My Hardware is: > > ASUS A7V- Athlon 1Ghz > Matrox G400-DH with latest bios and powerdesk > 380MB Ram > 20 Gb IBM ATA66 drive > Audiowerk8 x 2 > AMT8 > Logitech optical Mouse > > > > > > > Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > >>>>> Subject lines MUST contain: [LAM]/[LAW]/[GEN]/[OT] <<<<< > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

> ** Original Message follows... > From: beathive@... > Subject: Re: [LAMP]: Recommended system for Logic. > > Exactly what hardware are you using to get 36 tracks on a G3 350??? > > I'd be very interested to hear all of your settings. I just don't see > how that's possible when I have a G3 400 with tons of ram and an UW > SCSI drive and I'm not even coming CLOSE to 36 tracks - even with no > plugs. > My system: G3/350, 192Mb RAM, OS9.04, MOTU 2408, LAMP4.7.0, audio recorded on Glyph external 9Gig SCSI drive run via Adaptec 2940 UW Mac settings: Disk Cache - 512Mb System software takes about 29Mb RAM MOTU PCI 324 console settings: Buffer size - 256 For general use only 4-6 inputs activated Logic Audio Hardware Preferences: 36 tracks, Universal Track Mode on, I/O streams = "Max", Playback delay = 0 "Larger Disk Buffer", "Larger Process Buffer" and "More Friendly Disk Read Handling" disabled (unchecked) Also, I do a lot of trimming of audio regions on the arrange page so I don't actually have a lot of contiguous tracks happening at once - i.e. the song may use 36+ tracks but only about half may be actually playing at the exact same time. I _have_ tested my system with contiguous tracks and I can achieve 24 - 30 tracks comfortably with a few plugins. More tracks or more plugins will send it over the edge. Also, I use external reverbs (Lexicon and Eventide) - this makes a BIG difference as Virtual Reverbs are a major strain on CPU resources especially on a G3. If you need to do a lot of contiguous tracks (Live drums, guitar, bass etc) get the fastest drive and (if external) fastest SCSI card you can afford. Also get the best audio hardware you can - Digidesign or MOTU - no contest (I have been hearing a lot of good things about the RME Hammerfall, but have not had a chance to test it.) HTH, Mars

Hello Michael, > Timing errors will not occur because of not having the addressing > conversion in account, but it could occur if the driver uses some > low-level tasks which conflict with the interrupt priorities used by the 32-bit multimedia timer. Is it possible for me to analyse this somewher??? Or do I need acces then to the source of the drivers. > Such timing error however can also appear if a graphics card driver > uses up too much PCI interrupt time. This can be set? Maarten

Felix, Ran out of time last night: 1/ Use 256 meg RAM. 2/ Use IBM Deskstar ATA 100 GXP 75 or GXP 60 hard drives, preferably GXP 60, if it is available yet. 3/ Replace your system drive with one of these and have at least one dedicated to your audio files ONLY (I haven't done this yet, but intend to this week). 4/ Don't mount any audio drive on your CD buss; two drives will get you a higher track count, but then you need to go UW SCSI, or PCI RAID, as described below. Contrary to what many believe, including the dealer who sold me my system, you can't mount three drives in a G4. Mounting a third drive on your CD buss will slow the whole system down. Merely unplugging my third drive off the CD buss increased my performance dramatically. 5/ Defrag them with Norton Utilities - even from brand new. I was not able to get past twenty tracks before I used Nortons. After the defrag, I was getting close to thirty. After disconnecting my third GXP off the CD buss, I am now over thirty - using TC and Waves plug-ins sparingly. But I haven't finished yet. 6/ Set up your system, including installing everything again, run Logic a few times, and then use Speed Disk, which comes with Nortons, to organise your partitions with the most used on the outside of the drive. You should get thirty to forty tracks now. 7/ If you still have problems, consider a Sonnet Tempo hardware RAID PCI card. Though there is controvery about how effect this is (xlr8yourmac.com), I am going to give it a go. 8/ If you are still having problems, something is wrong. However, if you are just pushing the boundaries on the plug-in/track count, consider the Sonnet Duet, a 500 dual processor upgrade that just slots into any G4 - US$ 950, or thereabouts. The TC Powercore should make all our lives easier, but it will not be cheap. Over US $1,000, I believe. But this will take a lot of your processing load off your CPU, which is the biggest problem. My journey continues. I have a second system at my office/studio. It's a G4 500 DP with UW SCSI and 2 x 10,000 rpm Cheetah hard drives. My goal is to get my home G4 400 IDE to keep pace as much as possible. It will never be as quick or as powerful, but I hope to narrow the gap sufficiently so that I can swap files between them without having to dumb the big ones down too much. Let me know how you go and I will do likewise. Simon ...................................................................... From: "Simon Binks" <SIMONJBINKS2@...> Reply-To: logic-users@yahoogroups.com To: logic-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [LUG] LAM: Recommended system for Logic. Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 12:31:37 +1000 Felix, Welcome to my nightmare. I also have a G4 400 and have just come through the same dilemma. I have a lot of information for you but I'm in the middle of a project right now. Simon Binks. From: miracleflash@... Reply-To: logic-users@yahoogroups.com To: logic-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: [LUG] LAM: Recommended system for Logic. Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:00:14 -0000 Hi All, I came to the conclusion that my system is not fast enough to run logic. I use a G4 400 with the standard internal Hard Drive with plenty of ram. I often get the "disk too slow message" when playing back audio. What do I need. A faster internal HD? A faster SCSI external Any suggestions? Felix _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

From: "Simon Binks" <simonjbinks2@...> | The TC Powercore should make all our lives easier, but it will not be cheap. | Over US $1,000, I believe. But this will take a lot of your processing | load off your CPU, which is the biggest problem. Simon, AFAIK the TC card will only process TC's own plug-ins, not any third party ones. rgds, Björn Elfström

Hi, I just did a search for Reason and Rewire 2 and got mixed answers. Does it or does it not work with LAWP 4.7? Anyone? Regards Yavuz AKYAZICI

So ive got my LAWP going and I'm using a AMT-8 with USB. I've got a p3/700 with 256 RAM, and I'm experiencing quite a bit of latency with MIDI, using Audio Instruments. Are there any settings I'm missing? There's not a lot of latency using the same setup but with Reason software. Please help, latency is killing me! thanks, peat Keyboard is a K2000s. AMT-8 using USB Dell Piii/700/256

trying using com port intead of usb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Biby, Peat" <peat@...> To: "Logic (E-mail)" <logic-users@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 4:17 PM Subject: [LUG] [LAW] LAWP and AMT-8 > So ive got my LAWP going and I'm using a AMT-8 with USB. > I've got a p3/700 with 256 RAM, and I'm experiencing quite a bit of latency > with MIDI, using Audio Instruments. Are there any settings I'm missing? > There's not a lot of latency using the same setup but with Reason software. > > Please help, latency is killing me! > > > thanks, > > peat > > > > > Keyboard is a K2000s. > > AMT-8 using USB > > Dell Piii/700/256 > > > > > > Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > >>>>> Subject lines MUST contain: [LAM]/[LAW]/[GEN]/[OT] <<<<< > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

> So ive got my LAWP going and I'm using a AMT-8 with USB. > I've got a p3/700 with 256 RAM, and I'm experiencing quite a > bit of latency > with MIDI, using Audio Instruments. Are there any settings > I'm missing? > There's not a lot of latency using the same setup but with > Reason software. > > Please help, latency is killing me> latency when playing audio instruments is caused by your soundcard or it's drivers, not the AMT-8. The AMT-8 doesn't do anything when you play audio instruments. you don't mention which soundcard you are using, so we can't say what your typical latency would be. cheers dan

Hi Peat, > So ive got my LAWP going and I'm using a AMT-8 with USB. > I've got a p3/700 with 256 RAM, and I'm experiencing quite a bit > of latency > with MIDI, using Audio Instruments. Are there any settings I'm missing? > There's not a lot of latency using the same setup but with Reason > software. The latency is not MIDI but your audio card. Don't know why Reason doesn't have much latency. However, latency is greatly reduced if you use a soundcard with really low latency. You don't mention which audio card you're using nor which Audio Instruments in your post. Please include these and someone will be able to help you better. Are you using a different audio card perhaps with Reason (ie do you have 2 installed?). Regards, Fernando

Hi people! please someone tell me i'm missing something! please tell me how to arrange my DirectX plugins so that i don't have a huge scroll down menu to contend with every time i want to access my most used fx (the lurverley Waves... ), you know, the same annoying scroll down menu we all loved so much in the ES1 and EXS24... oh, someone, please won't you tell me it isn't true.... please... *sob* Cheers m'dears, SimonG sound designer infogrames studios ltd. sheffield UK

> From: "Ian Stewart Cairns" <ianandpancha@...> >I think the thing is to learn as much of the theory as applicable to your >needs and then forget it. Whatdo I mean? Perhapsan example will make it >clearer. When I am improvising, I never think "Oh, here comes the final >11-V, I must remember to play a superlocrian/half-diminished/whatever lick >leading in to the V chord which will precipitate the impending tonic >resolution" or anything of the kind. At least I don't think this on a >conscious level. However, I do have that warehouse of knowledge to draw upon >UNCONSCIOUSLY. When I play, it just happens. If I were to examine my solo >retrospectively (let's say for teaching purposes) I might indeed find that, >although at the time I was solely preoccupied with playing melodically, I >was using these scales/modes in just the way theory books suggest you >should. Other times I might not. Yes, well said. Like spelling and grammar, scales are tools we use to help expand the scope and depth of our playing and writing. Howard-

> Hi All, > > I just tried that new free reverb demo LogicDaddy posted the link to. It > sounds great, but crashes Logic. It just hangs on Quit. I remove the > plugin and all becomes fine again. Anyone else experience this? There is a new version with bug corrected http://www.macmusic.org/eng/share/sh_free_dragan_drverb.shtml

--- In logic-users@y..., Dennis Gunn <mightyjohn@t...> wrote: > Any one have any experience with the XLR8 dual processor upgrade and > logic. I recenctly was able to score some relatively cheap memory > for my aging 7600 so now it's up to 480 megs of RAM. The high cost > of memory for older Macs was one of the things making me thing of > buying a new one. I am really tempted to get one of the XLR8 dual > cards instead though. Anyone using one with logic? Hi Dennis, I would recommend not to do this,because without the fast memory bus of the recent PowerMacs (which is 7 times faster than with 7xxx machines) this makes no sense. Theoretically you have much more cpu power, but there bottlenecks everywhere in those old systems. Also the price is allmost as high as a new 450MP, which you can get really cheap at this time since there are still some on stock. Maybe not what you wanted to hear, but I would take very much care with such an upgrade.... Also you will have problems to run OS X some day when the time has come to change - even if this migh be in a year or so. Best Ray

Hello Mac-heads. I put Intech's HD Speedtools drivers on my Ultra 2 SCSI and ATA66 IDE drive a while back, and now for stability reasons I want to put the factory Apple drivers back on the disks. Is it possible to do this without reformatting the drives, and if so, how do I do it? Mucht hanks in advance, -Nick Gold, funkelectric.com

Do a search for latency in the messages at yahoogroups. This was discussed extensively in a recent thread. Evan --- In logic-users@y..., warabunga@y... wrote: > Hi there, > As everybody talks about latency, I'd loved to know how you mesure > it?! > I know that if you connect the in and out togheter you should be able > to mesure the latency value... but HOW?? > Could anybody describe me step by step how you mesure latency? [both > record latency and playback latency and if possible automation > latency] > > yo yo tnx greetz Warabunga

Hey Simon What exacly is a TC Powecore? Thanks Evan --- In logic-users@y..., "Simon Binks" <simonjbinks2@h...> wrote: > Felix, > > Ran out of time last night: > > 1/ Use 256 meg RAM. > > 2/ Use IBM Deskstar ATA 100 GXP 75 or GXP 60 hard drives, preferably GXP 60, > if it is available yet. > > 3/ Replace your system drive with one of these and have at least one > dedicated to your audio files ONLY (I haven't done this yet, but intend to > this week). > > 4/ Don't mount any audio drive on your CD buss; two drives will get you a > higher track count, but then you need to go UW SCSI, or PCI RAID, as > described below. > > Contrary to what many believe, including the dealer who sold me my system, > you can't mount three drives in a G4. > > Mounting a third drive on your CD buss will slow the whole system down. > Merely unplugging my third drive off the CD buss increased my performance > dramatically. > > 5/ Defrag them with Norton Utilities - even from brand new. I was not > able to get past twenty tracks before I used Nortons. After the defrag, I > was getting close to thirty. After disconnecting my third GXP off the CD > buss, I am now over thirty - using TC and Waves plug-ins sparingly. But I > haven't finished yet. > > 6/ Set up your system, including installing everything again, run Logic a > few times, and then use Speed Disk, which comes with Nortons, to organise > your partitions with the most used on the outside of the drive. > > You should get thirty to forty tracks now. > > 7/ If you still have problems, consider a Sonnet Tempo hardware RAID PCI > card. Though there is controvery about how effect this is (xlr8yourmac.com), > I am going to give it a go. > > 8/ If you are still having problems, something is wrong. However, if you > are just pushing the boundaries on the plug-in/track count, consider the > Sonnet Duet, a 500 dual processor upgrade that just slots > into any G4 - US$ 950, or thereabouts. > > The TC Powercore should make all our lives easier, but it will not be cheap. > Over US $1,000, I believe. But this will take a lot of your processing > load off your CPU, which is the biggest problem. > > My journey continues. > > I have a second system at my office/studio. It's a G4 500 DP with UW SCSI > and 2 x 10,000 rpm Cheetah hard drives. > > My goal is to get my home G4 400 IDE to keep pace as much as possible. > It will never be as quick or as powerful, but I hope to narrow the gap > sufficiently so that I can swap files between them without having to dumb > the big ones down too much. > > Let me know how you go and I will do likewise. > > Simon > > > > ...................................................................... > > From: "Simon Binks" <SIMONJBINKS2@H...> > Reply-To: logic-users@y... > To: logic-users@y... > Subject: Re: [LUG] LAM: Recommended system for Logic. > Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 12:31:37 +1000 > > Felix, > Welcome to my nightmare. > > I also have a G4 400 and have just come through the same dilemma. I have a > lot of information for you but I'm in the middle of a project right now. > > Simon Binks. > > From: miracleflash@y... > Reply-To: logic-users@y... > To: logic-users@y... > Subject: [LUG] LAM: Recommended system for Logic. Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 > 21:00:14 -0000 > > Hi All, > I came to the conclusion that my system is not fast enough to run logic. I > use a G4 400 with the standard internal Hard Drive with plenty of ram. I > often get the "disk too slow message" when playing back audio. What do I > need. A faster internal HD? A faster SCSI external > > Any suggestions? > > Felix > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http:// www.hotmail.com.

>Anyone out there using NI's 4-Control with LAMP? >Looks cool but does LAMP support the +/- 1 value >controllers? >Are there MAC drivers? >Should I get one? - I NEED a control surface! The 4Control is cool...but don't buy one or you will be driven insane. It features nice native support for both Reaktor and Dynamo; however, the utility that converts the controllers is Windows only (nice of them to mention that) and ships on floppy. For those of you running Reaktor on a ENIAC, you can swap the floppy for punch card via snail mail for a small charge. A kind soul has written a similar utility for Mac; however, there are certain unpleasant hoops to jump through. You need to use OMS, and you need to intercept the MIDI signal before Logic does, which entails telling Logic to receive MIDI via the IAC bus rather than with OMS drivers, etc. So, yes, it does work, but consider the medical bills from pounding your head against the wall before making the jump. If someone has an elegant way to integrate the 4Control into the Environment, please let me know!

We deliver music cues for a TV show as AIFF's on CD-ROM. The easiest way we've found to create them is to do a stereo mix on an audio track, then bounce as AIFF from a stereo output. (We can also apply our mastering plug-ins here, so it really speeds up the process.) So we select AIFF as the output format in the Bounce window, but when the dialog screen appears, there's no AIFF listed as a file type. It does indeed create an AIFF, but you can't see the files from this window, since WAV is the only file format available for selection. It's not that big a problem, really, except for occasionally duplicating a filename. (The program prevents an overwrite by giving a warning.) It's just an irritant. Am I missing something in the manual that fixes this, or is it just one of Logic's little peculiarities? I had hoped 4.7 would fix it. Fred Story Concentrix Music and Sound Design

So what to do with all those scales? Practise them! Mess about with them, play with them, get to know them. On your instrument, in all twelve keys, in as many different ways as you can think of. For instance, for C major, you can do CDEFGABC obviously, but what about CE DF EG FA GB AC BD C and back down again, or CEGEC DFAFD EGBGE etc, or CDEC FGAF BCDB EFGE ABCA etc etc etc And that's just C major! You can carry on with stuff like this on any or all of the scales mentioned so far, again, always doing this shit in all twelve keys, and in your head, not writing it down. Then, as other people have said, you forget all about it, but on the way you've figured out a personal vocabulary of licks which will instinctively fall under your fingers when you're feeling creative. (Approx value of above; two metric groats.) J. Simon van der Walt ----- Composer <http://www.jsimonvanderwalt.com>; <http://www.inventionensemble.com>;

Thanks guys, I'm using a gina 24/96 with the latest drivers. I experience NO delay when using reason, but there is when I use LAW. I have to reinstall LAW anyways because when I updated my Mercury synth (authorized it) it kills LAW on bootup. I've removed Mercury from the LAW directory but that wont help. thanks, peat ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 14 Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:23:14 +0100 From: Daniel Atkinson <datkinson@...> Subject: RE: [LAW] LAWP and AMT-8 > So ive got my LAWP going and I'm using a AMT-8 with USB. > I've got a p3/700 with 256 RAM, and I'm experiencing quite a > bit of latency > with MIDI, using Audio Instruments. Are there any settings > I'm missing? > There's not a lot of latency using the same setup but with > Reason software. > > Please help, latency is killing me> latency when playing audio instruments is caused by your soundcard or it's drivers, not the AMT-8. The AMT-8 doesn't do anything when you play audio instruments. you don't mention which soundcard you are using, so we can't say what your typical latency would be. cheers dan ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 15 Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 08:28:46 -0700 From: "Fernando Vicente" <fvicente@...> Subject: RE: [LAW] LAWP and AMT-8 Hi Peat, > So ive got my LAWP going and I'm using a AMT-8 with USB. > I've got a p3/700 with 256 RAM, and I'm experiencing quite a bit > of latency > with MIDI, using Audio Instruments. Are there any settings I'm missing? > There's not a lot of latency using the same setup but with Reason > software. The latency is not MIDI but your audio card. Don't know why Reason doesn't have much latency. However, latency is greatly reduced if you use a soundcard with really low latency. You don't mention which audio card you're using nor which Audio Instruments in your post. Please include these and someone will be able to help you better. Are you using a different audio card perhaps with Reason (ie do you have 2 installed?). Regards, Fernando

I am currently on 4.2.3 and do NOT want to go directly to 4.7 - anyone have the update files for versions in-between? If so, maybe you could upload them to the files sections of this group, or we could arrange to send it / them to me directly? D. Bruce Moore