yavuzj@... wrote: >Or...even Logic 5.0 may not support Win2K ever? BeOs was dropped right? At that time, >windows XP might be a better choice or who knows what??? >As others said before,...My advice to you is to plan your gear based >on what is available now. I would certainly agree and say this is sound advice. Emagic plan to include 2000 support with version 5, by Markus's own declaration. They may decide it is better to apply the resources into XP instead, who knows? I shall be beta testing XP (beta 2) over the next few weeks so may or may not be able to offer some further input on this. I would guess two things: If Emagic give support for 2000, it will be relatively easy (or may even just work straight away) to support XP if the requirement is there. Don't forget 2000 support does not necessarily mean dual CPU support, and dual CPU support (if it follows for 2000) may be limited to start with. Cubase dual cpu support is still rather limited (see their web site). I would be surprised if Emagic are not already planning XP support, but I certainly would not bombard them with questions on this yet! Local gossip: Logic 4.7 (estimated!) ETA - any day now Win ME Logic support - current version Win 2000 Logic support - version 5 Dual CPU support - possibly version 5

--- In logic-users@y..., carl@f... wrote: > I am considering the following for audio on my Powerbook (G3 400). > 1) EMI 2/6 > 2) Motu 828 > 3) Hammerall DSP with Multiface (8 analog I/O) > None of which exist on the market yet. Exactly the choices I'm looking at for an upcoming G4 powerbook. > 1) I'm wondering if someone could speak to how I would be > able to run the EMI 2/6, my Roland PC 300 and the ever lovely > Platinum Hardware key with only 2 USB connections on my > powerbook? I guess it'll need a hub. More crap to carry around. Especially if you want to hook up an external (computer) keyboard and midi interface, which I certainly will. I'm also concerned about the available USB bandwidth - EMI 2|6, MT-4, keyboard, dongle... I wonder can the EMI 2|6 do 24-bit in full-duplex, or is it 16-in 24-out OR 24-in 16-out...? > Is there any reason to beleive that Emagic can get the USB > audio to work where others have not? Those who have seen it seem to think it works pretty well, with low latency. And it's very small :-) > 2) For the MOTU 828, can anyone speak on the sound of the > converters if they are indeed similar to those of the 2408 MK II. > 3) Totally unfamiliar with RME products. Any light on this > product would be helpful I'll want to get my hands on demo units of all the above when they eventually ship. The RME unit in particular looks very enticing, low latency, ASIO in hardware, and they have a very solid reputation - I wonder if Logic will be able to address the midi port, useful if so. The MOTU has the advantage of being directly transferable to any firewire machine and not using up a PC-card slot. The RME would need a RME PCI host card on a desktop machine. I am attempting to get pricing info on the RME Multiface, I suspect the MOTU will be cheaper. Anyway, until I can test them I'm not gonna worry about it. John Pitcairn

--- In logic-users@y..., "Daevid Vincent" <DayWalker@T...> wrote: And with the addition of the Netscape-derived Javascript menus, it's also a whole lot slower due to the large size of the .js files (I've looked at 'em, they're kinda bloated). John Pitcairn

--- In logic-users@y..., jmcneil@c... wrote: > Both use the same channel and patch on my alesis > DM5, they are just separated on different tracks. The cymbals > are to loud Select the cymbals' midi sequence(s), and use the "velocity" parameter to reduce their velocity. That will affect just the selected sequences. John Pitcairn

Velocity not only changes volume but sound as well. AIWB turn down the cymbals´ volume directly in the DM5. Peter http://www.merlinsound.de ----- Original Message ----- From: <johnp@...> To: <logic-users@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 1:42 AM Subject: [LUG] Re: LAW midi volume changes with Hyperdraw? > --- In logic-users@y..., jmcneil@c... wrote: > > Both use the same channel and patch on my alesis > > DM5, they are just separated on different tracks. The cymbals > > are to loud > > Select the cymbals' midi sequence(s), and use the "velocity" > parameter to reduce their velocity. That will affect just the > selected sequences.

Thanks, Alexis I previously tried zapping the PRAM, to no effect. The only fix seems to be a clean reinstall, which I have done (but it's kind of a pain restoring extensions, preferences, etc.) It doesn't seem to be an extensions problem, as I've tried reducing to a minimal extensions set to no effect. If it were a corrupt preference file, which preference file? I tried trashing finder preferences. Thanks, Phil --- In logic-users@y..., Alexis Aiosa <aiosa9@m...> wrote: > on 3/21/01 9:38 AM, logic-users@y... at > logic-users@y... wrote: > > > OT: Mac OS 9.1 virtual memory problem > > > > Hello, > > > > Has anyone else using OS 9.1 experienced this problem: the finder takes > > almost all of the available RAM (in my case, around 690 mb out of an > > available 896 mb). This only happens with virtual memory off. > > > > The problem appeared as soon as I originally installed 9.1. A friend > > suggested that there was a problem with the 9.1 updater and that I > > should do a clean install of the OS from a 9.1 disk. > > Good advice...but not necessarily the case. > > > I did this, and it > > fixed the problem for about two weeks before it suddenly reappeared. > > Zap your PRAM... > > Restart your Mac, and hold down > Opt+Command+P+R keys. Let it cycle a few times. > > Reset your control Panels (if necessary). Then reboot and then rebuild your > desktop. > > After this, any problems you had with MacOS 9.1 'should' all go away. > Otherwise it could a corrupt preference file. > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > Phil Curtis

It seems ever since egroups changed to yahoo groups I am getting duplicate emails from every post. I checked my status on web am I am only subscribed once. Alex Allias

In the matrix editor click on the keyboard note of your cymbals. that will horizontally select all your symbol hits. then use the velocity tool to bring down the level. ...Alex > > I have a couple of drum tracks, one with snare/kick/toms the other > > with hihat/cymbals. Both use the same channel and patch on my alesis > > DM5, they are just separated on different tracks. The cymbals are to > > loud, so I thought i should be able to use something like hyperdraw > > to select the cymbal hits and reduce the midi volume output on just > > that track. i can't use the track parameter setting because it would > > reduce the other tracks volume. I'm not stuck on a method, I'm new > > to Logic, any suggestions to help fix the problem, or in tweaking my > > environment or recording methods are welcome.

Hi can anyone tell me why . If I play an audio file in Logc it is much lower in volume and seems to be subjectively not as good quality as when I play the exact file in logic......with all the effects off This is peculiar Pascal Ireland -----

thanks for the help Stefan --- In logic-users@y..., johnp@r... wrote: > --- In logic-users@y..., "Stefan" <stefanmusic@h...> wrote: > > I am using LAMP 4.6.3 on a new G4 533 with 768MB RAM. > > I am very curious to find out if allocating more RAM to Logic will > > speed up the program > > in any way? > > Not as such. > > If you're using many plugin softsynths and plugin FX, and some > of those are not appearing in the plugin menus, or are > functioning strangely, then allocating more RAM to Logic (say, > 4MB steps) *may* help (if it doesn't, take it back down again). > > If you get the "memory is tight for drawing" error (and ONLY that > error), then increase RAM allocation in 1MB steps until the error > stops. > > If you don't have either of the above problems, allocating more > RAM to Logic will not improve anything, and will absolutely not > "speed it up". If it ain't broke... > > Logic grabs RAM as needed from the free System RAM, so > allocating too much to Logic can paradoxically reduce the > memory available for the audio engine etc. > > For a looksee, while Logic is running, choose "about this > computer" from the Finder Apple menu... You'll see Logic is > using far more than it has been allocated anyway. > > John Pitcairn

Looking to chat, or get advice, from anyone who is using a powerbook with Logic. I want to be able to take logic with me to record, I hear Mark Of The Unicorn is coming out with a firewall that can do 8 inputs off the floor. Anyone using it or something similar? What do you need for The MAC powerbook in terms of Ram Gigs processing speed? Any help would be great before I drop the big bucks. Drummerboy69

If you want to use Logic as a portable recorder , then the powerbook is too fragile, delicate, good for that.... I would suggest a tower at home and something like a Roland VS for recording, you can dump your recording to the tower and edit later with midi sync and all...........

>From: "Matthew Boyle" <matthewboyle@...> >Dear fellow Logic Users, Hi Matthew, >2. I recently upgraded my CD burner and CD reader to faster drives. >Everything worked fine and there were no issues, until..... My EXS24 and my >ES1 asked for their copy-protection sniff at my original CD's. Windows >crashes. No response from Ctrl-Alt-Dlt-just total lock. I reinstalled >everything to no avail. I set up a dual boot sysem (tricky if you ask me!) >using Partition Magic 6, format it and install '98 only and then Logic with >the plug-ins. Still crashes. After my wife wrestled the razor blade away >from my wrists, I took my system apart and reinstalled my old CD drive and >burner in total desperation: You have guessed correctly, It accepted my >discs as though nothing had ever happened. I believe most of the newer CD drives use a DMA bus-master interface, try going into device manager and turning off DMA for the CD ROM, this should let the copy protection scheme work properly. >My tuppenceworth now; please cut down on the nastyness with each other! >Computers are harrowing enough on their own:-) This can be a nasty bunch. We're all at the local pub enjoying a pint then all of sudden a fistfight breaks out. howard

In a message dated 3/21/01 7:28:02 PM, litepipe@... writes: << Hello. I'm in a little pinch right now because I have to send a score I made with Logic to someone who is quite far away by Friday. I had inteneded on sending it via e-mail. Is there a way to copy the score page and paste it into Paint or something similiar so I can save it as a jpg or bmp? The person I'm sending it to doesn't use Logic or any music program. That's why I want to convert it to a jpg or bmp. I kind of assumed that this would be simple just like copy and pasting anything else. Well, you know what they say when you assume something..... I guess I could just take a screen shot but I would like it to look more professional. I appreciate any help!! Thanks!! --Roger >> I don't know if you are on a Mac or PC. I'm on a MAC, and the process is to use the camera tool in the score window. Mac's save these camera images as .pict files. I then imprt them into finale, as an anti-aliased pict file. Then save as a .jpg. Not sure if the process is the same on a pc. hope this helps, John T

Over a month ago there was some posting concerning the Promise Fast Track-in my case Fast Track 100.I was having problems using it mainly with Gigastudio-bluescreens etc.Well I solved that by updating the Viatech PCI drivers.A fairly confusing ordeal.But Giga now runs great. Now I'm trying to get LAWP and Giga running on that same computer.I have been using a Fast Track LAWP & Giga on a P3-550 so I know it works-works great-just not quite enough juice.I've also used a patch from Aardvark-they say it permits the soundcard to function properly with the kind of Viatech drivers I have...So the issue is either with the Aardvark or the Viatech drivers or some combination thereof. Logic audio device setup "see's" the Aardvark in 'Auiodevice Setup' under MME but I get a bluescreen(VXd errors) 1/2 way thru booting Logic. It happens every time. Any ideas help-experience - with a similar set-up please share. John Findlay. http://www.mp3.com/JF-Instrumental

----- Original Message ----- From: <bluehart@...> To: <logic-users@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 10:45 PM Subject: [LUG] LAWP 4.6.1 -Promise Fast Track-Aardvark on a P3800EB > Over a month ago there was some posting concerning the Promise Fast > Track-in my case Fast Track 100.I was having problems using it mainly > with Gigastudio-bluescreens etc.Well I solved that by updating the > Viatech PCI drivers.A fairly confusing ordeal.But Giga now runs great. > Now I'm trying to get LAWP and Giga running on that same computer.I > have been using a Fast Track LAWP & Giga on a P3-550 so I know it > works-works great-just not quite enough juice.I've also used a patch > from Aardvark-they say it permits the soundcard to function properly > with the kind of Viatech drivers I have...So the issue is either with > the Aardvark or the Viatech drivers or some combination thereof. > Logic audio device setup "see's" the Aardvark in 'Auiodevice Setup' > under MME but I get a bluescreen(VXd errors) 1/2 way thru booting > Logic. It happens every time. > > Any ideas help-experience - with a similar set-up please share. > > John Findlay. > > http://www.mp3.com/JF-Instrumental > I don't have any experience with the Viatech chipset or Giga but my Aark20/20+ will only work under LAWP using the ASIO drivers. Hope this is of some help, Also, have you tried the Aardvark tech support email, I had a problem due to a driver upgrade installing a non-current aarklink.dll file and in two emails the tech guy had my problem solved. Steve

>>> If I play an audio file in Logic it is much lower in volume and seems to be subjectively not as good quality as when I play the exact file in Logic......with all the effects off. This is peculiar <<< This sounds to me, indeed, VERY peculiar... :-) _________________ David // 6am eternal http://www.mp3.com/6ameternal

These are my stats:Boe Brown Queens NYC, USA Pentium III @500 mhz running Windows 98 (Second edition)... Cheeta 9Gig.SCSI Hard Drive. 10 Gig ATA drive, for apps. Logic Audio Platinum 4.6.1 SoundDiver 3.0 Yamaha DS2416.... Unitor 8 mkll USB interface JV-1080 and Alesis QS7-1 What I usually do to after I mix down Audio files for mastering is fly it to dat, then bring it back into logic where I hit it with the Waves L1 on a regular mixer object before burning a CD. I read in Keyboard that Mastering plug-ins should be placed on the insert of the Master fader object. But the only plug-ins that show up when I click the insert button, are the logic plug-ins, and not even the new Logic plug-ins like 'Fat EQ'. I thought I was doing it right. You mean I can master a wav. file for CD burning without flyin'it to DAT? Obviously I'm not 'Gettting it', from the manual. Can you help? Boe

These are my stats:Boe Brown Queens NYC, USA Pentium III @500 mhz running Windows 98 (Second edition)... Cheeta 9Gig.SCSI Hard Drive. 10 Gig ATA drive, for apps. Logic Audio Platinum 4.6.1 SoundDiver 3.0 Yamaha DS2416.... Unitor 8 mkll USB interface JV-1080 and Alesis QS7-1 What I usually do to after I mix down Audio files for mastering is fly it to dat, then bring it back into logic where I hit it with the Waves L1 on a regular mixer object before burning a CD. I read in Keyboard that Mastering plug-ins should be placed on the insert of the Master fader object. But the only plug-ins that show up when I click the insert button, are the logic plug-ins, and not even the new Logic plug-ins like 'Fat EQ'. I thought I was doing it right. You mean I can master a wav. file for CD burning without flyin'it to DAT? Obviously I'm not 'Gettting it', from the manual. Can you help? Boe

Jim McNeil wrote: > I have a couple of drum tracks, one with snare/kick/toms the other > with hihat/cymbals. Both use the same channel and patch on my alesis > DM5, they are just separated on different tracks. The cymbals are to > loud, so I thought i should be able to use something like hyperdraw > to select the cymbal hits and reduce the midi volume output on just > that track. i can't use the track parameter setting because it would > reduce the other tracks volume. I'm not stuck on a method, I'm new > to Logic, any suggestions to help fix the problem, or in tweaking my > environment or recording methods are welcome. Actually I can think of some methods/ways to do this. The easiest would be to adjust the velocity of your cymbals inside Logic. You could do this either for the sequences they're on, by using the velocity parameter of the sequence parameter box or in the Matrix editor by clicking on the proper key and then using the velocity tool or by using any other editor (Event List, a Transformer, etc.). But, as Peter Duemmler allready said, you might loose some sonic quality as in many dedicated drum modules individual sounds either are velocity layered, have a different sample start or even a different filter for each velocity zone. Because of that I'd try to change the volume of the cymbals themselves. The easiest way this could be done would be directly in the DM5. Another option would be to use another MIDI channel and paste your cymbals onto a new track using that MIDI channel, but that would require the DM5 to be able to play drums on multiple MIDI channels. For both of these options you could then record a SysEx dump into Logic to have that setting saved with your song. Then there's another option, but I guess that requires more work... Most external MIDI modules allow altering individual drum instrument levels by a combination of some controller numbers (usually some NRPNs are involved). To find out about that you gotta read the MIDI implementation chart of the DM5 and setup some controlling objects in Logics environment (faders, buttons, switchers etc.). As said, this could result in a lot of work, but maybe the MIDI implementation of the DM5 allows routing of singular CCs to individual instrument volumes - I'm no expert in such things but I think some modules allow this.

litepipe wrote: > Hello. I'm in a little pinch right now because I have to send a score I made with Logic to someone who is quite far away by Friday. I had inteneded on sending it via e-mail. Is there a way to copy the score page and paste it into Paint or something similiar so I can save it as a jpg or bmp? You'd have to go to page view mode, select the camera tool, mark a selection. This copies that selection to your clipboard. Then paste into an editor of your choice. I'm no Score expert at all, but I think there's a preference somewhere wher you could select the dpi for the exported area. I also don't know if there's an export function for the complete Score, I seem to remember there is, but again, no expert here. Too lazy to look into the manual now, I prefer having some breakfast first :-) Sascha

<chrisedu@...> wrote: > I am always getting the EXS24 out of tune when it runs on my Lombard > 333 > pbook using macav audio extensions. Try to reinstall the EXS. On PCs this helps. > I can't put a bus channel to work also. When i created a bus and > assigned > some tracks by "bus" sendings, nothing happened. Did you install reason or the demo? If so, you gotta remove the rewire extension from your system folder I think... but then, I'm on PC, only heard about that one. Sascha

Matthew Boyle wrote: > 1. Can a sample instrument created in EXS 24 be exported to AKAI format? Well, not with the tools Logic or the EXS offers. Maybe one of the two external converters I know of will be able to do so. There's CDXtract (www.cdxtract.com) and Translator (www.chickensys.com) but so far I think both of them only do a conversion from AKAI (CD based only) to EXS, not from EXS to any other format. > 2. I recently upgraded my CD burner and CD reader to faster drives. > Everything worked fine and there were no issues, until..... My EXS24 and my > ES1 asked for their copy-protection sniff at my original CD's. Windows > crashes. No response from Ctrl-Alt-Dlt-just total lock. You could of course try what Howard allready suggested, but I doubt that it'll work. So far it allways seems to have been an ASPI installation problem. You should check Adaptecs website for a tool called aspichk.exe. Then, they also have some ASPI updater *somewhere*, unfortunately I don't have the FTP link anymore, but you could try to find it on ftp.adaptec.com. Please don't ask me what ASPI means, I'm just a user too. > > 3. I don't use a lot of effects, but I depend on the Goldverb a lot. > Since my Delta has 10 outs as well as ins, is it better to do my reverbs in > software, or get a hardware reverb and route the signal out and then in > again through another channel. (Paul white of Sound on Sound magazine seems > to favour this but I've heard contradictory advice). Sound quality is my > main consideration. Any good advice appreciated.Would it be worth upgrading > to Platinum to get the Platinumverb, or are third party alternatives better? If it only was for the additional effects, or maybe even only PlatinumVerb, I would better pay for a dedicated third party reverb plugin. If you however want 24bit support too (plus some more things like the Spectral Gate) you might wanna upgrade. Before you decide you could try out two IMO excellent free VST reverbs: Freeverb2: http://www.dreampoint.co.uk/ - I usually like that one better than any of Logics reverbs. You could still apply an EQ on it, if you like. Room Machine 884: http://www.silverspike.de/ FreeverbToo: http://sinus.jumpfun.com/ - based on the Freeverb2 algorithm (that one is open source) but comes with an easier to handle UI and some more options. If you want really good reverb quality I would however do what Paul White was recommending (even if I don't know him :-). Use one (or more) of your individual outs as a reverb send and just route the return back into your mixer/Delta. IMO even relatively cheap hardware reverbs (like Lexicons MPX series) still sound better than most native ones. Plus, your CPU doesn't have to be worried about. Cheers, Sascha

Jonas Sigurdsson wrote: > At first PULSAR was a killer with it's 4 SHARCS compared to the > normal Pentium processor which was at that time running @ 200-300Mhz. Now > the average PC has a CPU speed near 1Ghz which is far more improvement in > speed than CreamWare can keep up with using their dedicated DSP chips. Yeah, I can second this. A friend of mine uses a Pulsar I on his P450 and of course for him it makes perfect sense in terms of additional mixing capabillities and the use of Creamwares synths. But, when comparing the raw power of that setup with my new Athlon1gHz I found my machine to be almost on par. Actually, IMO it's only worth getting a Pulsar if you really like those synths. In opposite to almost all VST synths they have smooth filters too (while with VSTis you usually hear some stepping through the cutoff stages on automated sweeps). > It's > also obvious that they are aware of this and are therefore moving their > software more into VST territory. Actually that's an interesting approach if you ask me (well, as long as it works... in Frankfurt Pulsar XTC looked quite buggy). If they will ever sort out their latency issues I'm sure I'm gonna get one because a) I don't have that much external MIDI stuff and b) I like the thought of integration into Logics mixer and total recall scheme without even having to open any further applications (as you have to do with plain Pulsars). I would only use it for the synths though, I think it's quite something you're getting for your money. Sascha

DJKS wrote: > seems, problem with the USB??? Yes, apparently. Which soundcard do you use? Which mainboard? You could try to get some new drivers for the USB part of the board, but unfortunately I don't think it'll help too much, there's still just some combinations that don't like audio and USB running together it seems. If you allready tried everything I'm afraid you'd need to exchange your MIDI interface. A friend of mine had exactly the same problems too a while ago, now, with a parallel MIDI interface, everything runs just smooth. Sascha