on 28/2/01 7:27 PM, logic-users@yahoogroups.com at logic-users@yahoogroups.com wrote: > (i.e. they're much "nicer" to listen to than NS10-M's) So is concorde taking off... -- Colin Owen - "Only for God's Glory" http://www.jesusreigns.co.uk http://www.praiseandworshipsongs.com To join my smile list click: mailto:smile@...?subject=smileme For info click here: mailto:smile@...?subject=smileinfo To send in a smile click: mailto:smile@...?subject=smilein

I own a pair of Mackie HR-824s. they are the best speakers for the money IMO. I have had the opportunity to hear alot of different speakers and no speaker came close to the clarity of the entire frequency spectrum for the money then the Mackie. I do have to admit the krk v8's were nice too. The only speakers I heard that were better then the mackies were the genelecs but they were twice the price but not twice as good. on 28/2/01 7:27 PM, logic-users@yahoogroups.com at logic-users@yahoogroups.com wrote: > as I am considering buying the Mackie HR-824s, I might as well join in > here. Does anyone use them, and what do you guys think? Our control room > is quite small, but I'd like some more punch than what our Alesis > Monitor 1s can deliver. Any comments aprpreciated. > > Cheers, > > Recky Go ahead an buy them. I've heard them in a friends studio, and they are excellent. Regards, colin.

Bob, Be careful. A surprising number of the most useful USB/Firewire devices will NOT work with a PCI firewire or USB card. Only with native, motherboard based firewire support. Even something as simple as a USB headset for ViaVoice will NOT work with an aftermarket PCI card USB interface. Have no idea why. Good luck, Jim --- In logic-users@y..., Bob Vandiver <bobandmaria@i...> wrote: > Hey all, > > As a follow-up to a recent question I now have a second one. > > I would like to purchase a PCI card that offers a combination of USB and > Firewire ports. > > Kenny Jenkins warned me against the Orange Micro card and I must say this is > not the first time I have read of such problems with this card. > > There also exists the Sonnet Tango card. Anybody know of any compatibility > issues with it? > > Thanks again for your time, > > Bob > > -- > > "The US policy in the first month of President George Bush is suggestive at > once of a lack of coherence and hegemonic arrogance. Only time will tell > whether this is disorientation caused by the GOP's eight years out of office > or this is the US as the new cowboy on the rampage. The Bush administration > has possibly set a record for alienating so many nations in such a short > period. " > > The Times of India, Feb. 24, 2001

I've seen the Mackie HR-824s used in top studios and the engineers had good things to say about them. That was one of the reasons I bought them as well.

"Phil Angus" <phila@...> wrote: >It would be nice to have an event list selection which looks very >much like one of the transform windows. You could probably cater >for all selection options with one window. Hendrik Jan´s "boolean selection" presupposed, a CUSTOMIZABLE TRANSFORM-MENU in every editor and in the arrange-window should be the way to go: --- In the transform-window you´d have a check-box for each transform-set to make it visible in the "custom transform-menu". If you then select that transform-set from the menu it will be performed _immediately_ with the pre-set parameters and _without_ bringing up the transform-window. --- To take this to the next level, you could define a series of transform-sets (kind of "batch") that will be performed by just selecting that "batch" from the menu. And again for each set of that "batch" you can check, if it will be performed directly (and if it performs "select only", "select within existing selection", "operate only" or"select and operate" then), or if the transform-window allows to set some parameters (i.e. the transform-window opens, as it is now in event-edit´s transform sub-menu). --- The transform-window should include "cut/copy/paste"-actions! (despite the "copy&apply" and "delete", which are there already). That way each user could add a lot of specific functions that he/she is missing in Logic. (Anyone who has ever worked with the "custom effects" feature of Soundmaker, should know how powerful this kind of user-definable functions is). Alberto

I have to decide quickly. Would you mac users rather have the dual processor 533mhz G4 or the single processor 733? Forget for a moment about the "superdrive" and the price difference. I can always buy an aftermarket superdrive with the price difference if I go with the DP 533. I really need some advice here. Thanks, Jim

GAmoore@... wrote after Markus Fritze's great answer: >Can an EMagic dongle plug into a USB PCI card? > >> Yes. >> >> Markus Fritze >Of course it will plug in - thats just a square peg in a square hole - >the question probably should have been "Will it work? Will it authorize >LAW?". You have to remember that Markus with his superhuman intelligence >is like a computer, and he answers literally whatever you ask him, so >pose your questions carefully. > >Actually the original question was about LAM, so Marcus was literally correct.... ;-) I have read this post several times now and each time I read it gets funnier. Thanks for the great laugh to end a great day. :) Maybe Markus would have been good at mission control of the Apollo 13 flight. Markus, will this home made C02 filter kit fit and do the job? Answer Yes! Will these Gruman engines get our boys back? Yes

--- In logic-users@y..., ppjmd@e... wrote: > > but 1.2 ms of latency... no way that we can live with that... The problem is, latency is cumulative. Personally I haven't noticed any latency on plugins, though I believe Emagic have stated that there *is* some on a couple of plugins (Spectral Gate, was it?). And with audio in/out latency, if you are in the habit of sending out to crusty ol' outboard gear (in my case, a really awful-but-somehow-good Midiverb I, Korg SDD1200 delay, and Korg MS20) and recording the results back in, the in/out latency will stack up each time. Or playing along with prerecorded stuff - you may be playing in time, but if the record latency isn't compensated for, the recording emphatically *won't* be where you played it. Every bit of latency will reduce the tightness of your groove, unless it is compensated for. Now, I'm no rhythmic perfectionist, but there certainly have been occasions when I've listened to an earlier version of a song and determined that somewhere along the line it's all gone to hell, when all audio regions have been SMPTE-locked... Coming from a home studio 4- & 8-track background as I do, where everything was analog and there was *no* latency to worry about, this has been one of the more frustrating aspects of the move to digital. The thing that pisses me off most is the removal of the "record delay" parameter in most of the audio drivers preferences, which means you *can't* automatically compensate for record latency. Grrrr. John Pitcairn

Ali, when using the Triton with a sequencer, you will have to choose wether you want to use the GM or the "normal" sounds. You can select this in GLOBAL by switching the option either to "GM2" or "Korg" - in your case, you will have to select "GM2" and should get the general midi sounds you are looking for Kurt At 00:20 28.02.2001 +0000, you wrote: >i'm trying to be able to use >the 9 Gm banks on the triton on >logic. I got the banks A-D to work >but i dont know the set up in >the enviornment to get the GM banks and patches to come out >i know you have to send two controller info to it >cc#0 and cc#32 but how i dont know. -- | |// /| Kurt Gnos Tel. /Fax +41 41 320 67 41 / |_ Hackenrainstr. 6 Internet: gnos@... ( (| CH-6010 Kriens _|_// Switzerland | http://www.switzerland.net/Pgnos/ / ICQ 16526151

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Phil Angus wrote: > Markus, will this home made C02 filter kit fit and do the job? > > Answer > > Yes! But if a homemade CO2 filter kit could work in place of a dongle in the USB port of a PCI card, I bet Markus wouldn't tell us :) -Denizen

Hey thanks for the info. I am sure that it recorded because I imported it into logic and the wave graphic came up and I have already tried the parameters but I will review again. I am very thankful for your info. Thank you, Steve -----Original Message----- From: janke.michael@... [mailto:janke.michael@...] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 4:28 PM To: logic-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: [LUG] Re: Law: audio track serious problem 1.check if you really recorded something with the wave player in windows 2.In the enviroment open the audio mixer, select an audioobject by clicking on the letters down under the object. Then check in the parameter box if you have selected the soundblster as device. 3. There should be somekind of mixer with the blaster, maybe its in a program called audio hq or something like that and check the routing. Maybe there is a through switch, that you even might here your music but do not record. Hope this helps Michael --- In logic-users@y..., "Steve Mantani" <Smantani@a...> wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Mantani [mailto:Smantani@a...] > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 7:55 PM > To: logic-users@y... > Subject: [LUG] Law: audio track serious problem > > > I have just started with logic and I can't figure out what is wrong with my > audio. First of all I am using the sound blaster live platinum sound card. > I have my mini disc plugged into the audio input. I can here the mini disc > using the sound blaster recorder so I know that I just have one of the > settings messed up. So I recorded a wav and imported it into logic. That > wont even play so I figure my inputs and outs are messed up can someone > please help me. Anything is appreciated. > Thank You, > Steven Mantani > > > Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > >>>>> Subject lines MUST contain: LAM/LAW/GEN/OT <<<<< > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com >>>>> Subject lines MUST contain: LAM/LAW/GEN/OT <<<<< Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

on 28/2/01 10:07 am, Phil Angus at phila@... wrote: > F-erenc said: > >> I heard some Steinberg guys talking about NEVER >> announcing a release date ever again. > > I think Logic should adopt this approach as well. Maybe a > statement like 'yes, we are expecting to incorporate that fix in a > future release' would be better, and then just surprise everyone > either an event such as the messy music or on the Web Site. I hope from now on Emagic only announce revisions on the day they're available - then it's like an unexpected present. And we get less bitching on the list from mistakenly aggressive consumers smarting with righteous indignation. (Who was it who said the customer is always right? 50% of the time, the customer is an ignorant pain in the ass.) There's a very funny ad in the U.K. at the moment for Grolsch lager, with a mellow Dutch guy telling a load of bank robbers who arrive at a building site (the bank hasn't been built yet) not to be impatient - they've got to wait until it's ready. 4.7 is exactly the same. When it does arrive I'm sure it will be great, and add lots of functionality for free. What is there to complain about? Until then, make some music with 4.6.3 - if you can't then you're doing something wrong. best, pk

From: GAmoore@... answered regarding Emagic Web Site known bug list >They may not want to do that because potential users would see it and >think LAM/W is a piece of . We need to keep this >aspect a secret... I mean the few minor bugs, because overall its a great >product. No. for two reasons: Firstly everyone knows Emagic is not a piece of bug-ridden crapware because it is well known throughout the industry, and secondly, I believe everyone would be more inclined to admire the honesty and feel more secure in the knowledge that the issue has been logged and is being dealt with. Don't forget we are not just talking bugs, we are also talking improvements. Instead we all make suggestions, wondering if it falls on deaf ears and don't find out until the next release and then wonder if your idea is incorporated, was it because you reported it, or was it already known about and logged and therefore not worth your effort in the first place? There is of course the other side of the coin which is probably equally debatable. Maybe it is non of our business as to their future plans, certainly not in the marketing sense. After all, we don't all demand BMW tell us about their plans for the next model so we can decide whether to buy now or wait for the next one, or maybe wait three months because their SE pack has more inclusions (damn them!). Sometimes there is a fine line between asking for an answer to a reasonable question, and demanding to know something that we either don't actually need to know (like when's 4.7 release due when we all know it is very soon) or have no business knowing. My request for the Web site still stands however, a simple informative list of acknowledged bugs or possible minor improvements, earmarked for the next release, market permitting! I'm off to bed, tired of all that yelling at the tele! About time England did well!

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Matthew Samet wrote: > Hi, wondering if anyone can help with this short question: > > I have a very large audio file that plays pretty much through the duration > of my song (which is ~250 bars long). > I have an event Gina (not gina24) card, set with EASI->MME adapter (PC AV). > I've tried with ASIO but still get the same results. > This is one of those things I got out of the habit of doing a long time ago. It always seemed to put unnecessary strain on the system and seemed to invite a lock up. Not sure if it is really applicable anymore with ME and 4.5 but as I say I habitually do not do it any more. I always find it far better to just stop, scroll to the new position and double click the top locater bar to re-start. Phil

Hi Recky, > as I am considering buying the Mackie HR-824s, I might as well join in > here. Does anyone use them, and what do you guys think? Our control room > is quite small, but I'd like some more punch than what our Alesis > Monitor 1s can deliver. Any comments aprpreciated. > > I have a pair of HR824s and love them. I've been using them for almost three years after switching from a pair of NS 10Ms. I think with monitors the important thing is how well you know them rather than any objective measurement as to their quality. Having said this, I like the Mackie's because they not only sound really good and make it fun to play your gear through; but I have "learned" them well enough that my mixes translate well to other systems. There are a few dip switch settings for bass and room perspective that take some experimenting with. But it is well worth the time. I find them to be great bang for the buck. -- Eli Krantzberg Nightshift Orchestra / Almat Productions

Hey Folks, This thread is getting pretty big. Consider taking it over to logic-ot@yahoogroups.com Thanks!!! -- Joeri Vankeirsbilck joeri@... Belway Productions - http://www.belway.com List-admin Logic-users/SoundD*ver-users/Logic-TDM

// > around a 2-3 second delay for the audio to catch up with the MIDI? try a smaler verctor size. (maby) //

// >> I also think Emagic should have a page on their site which lists all >> the expected bug fixes being reviewed for future releases and leave > ... > > They may not want to do that because potential users would see it and > think LAM/W is a piece of bug-ridden crapware. We need to keep this > aspect a secret... it just depends on how you present it. if as a community: providing such a list would rather point out to potiential customer that the product, the users and the company have a strong connection ... which would be positive. such list on one hand and a online bug-reprot-form on the other. no? //

Hello, any help appreciated. The specs - Logic Audio Platinum on a Mac G4 using the DIGI001 unit for ins/outs. We have full stereo playback of any audio objects in the Environment, but only the left channel is active when editing and listening to objects in the Audio Window. The right channel is mute. Anyone have a similar experience or know of things to check or certain settings needed? Cheers, Meistro Creative Music Recordings West Palm Beach

--- In logic-users@y..., Recky Reck <reckie@c...> wrote: > Hi, > > as I am considering buying the Mackie HR-824s, I might as well join in > here. Does anyone use them, and what do you guys think? Our control room > is quite small, but I'd like some more punch than what our Alesis > Monitor 1s can deliver. Any comments aprpreciated. > > Cheers, > > Recky Reckey, For such a small speaker, they will certainly give you a seious sound!! Very easy on the ear for all those long, hard sessions. They All pro's that come into my studio comment on how fantastic they sound and that they are "much better than the nearest priced Genelecs. Listen .... buy ..... enjoy ..... marvel. regards, Grado www.mastertone.co.uk

While the discussion over zoom and general tool behavior was happening I was thinking ... how come I can't get my default command key modifier to change? If I hit command key (apple key) in LAM4.63 and always before that, the tool switches from pointer to pencil. I'd rather it switched from pointer to scissors. No matter if I save the screen sets with it set the way I want it pointer scissors it always defaults back to pointer + command=pencil when I change screensets and then reopen that screensets. Am I forgetting something here? Or am I asking for something that should be fixed. Kelly Mason

I try to use Bypass-on/off control on a channelsplitter-track for the master-out. I see the Bypass-button of the Waves3.0 Super-2-Tap switch on and off,, but I don't hear any effect! What is this?

Hi, I just got Logic recently and I'm curious about which driver I should use. So, what are the differences between using the MME EASI and ASIO drivers with my Delta 66 soundcard? I have no idea what the difference is, I choose ASIO just to get up and running. Also, if anyone wants to throw in beginners tips, it would be well appreciated. Ries

I just got a VOcoder from warpFactory it's great. Has full midi control of all knobs. I've created a fader that will change the pitch. I'd like to change the pitch with my midi keyboard controller. I've looked into tranformers and stuff but I can't map the midi notes to a CC value any tips hints would be really great. I'm sure it's easy but i just can't seem to make it work. feel free to sen an example environment to keithstrand@... thanks so much Keith Strand

If Emagic released things before they were ready we'd be using a system as reliable as Windows!!! How happy would you be if after you've spent 20 minutes recording the perfect take of a guitar track only for it to crash on you? Be Patient!!! The whole release date thing is a 'How long is a piece of string syndrome' From: f-erenc szabo [mailto:zerobeat@...] jnitti@... writes: >We have a user of these products who not only accepts >substandard customer service (in this case, lying to the >customer) but actually vociferously defends the company >for doing so. Emagic is actually "doing us a favor" by >being late with the release of thier software. Er, you're putting the cart before the horse. The "favour" is not the act of being late, but the act of NOT releasing a premature version of the software just to satisfy an imaginary "release date" that was loosely predicted. Believe me, you do NOT want 4.7 until it's ready. And I wouldn't call it a favour! Just a sensible and logical decision that will avoid tons of grief on the part of the users. As I mentioned before, I heard some Steinberg guys say they NEVER want to again announce this imaginary release date until it becomes obviously imminently finished (usually, a few days before). I agree with this tactic. Not only is it honest, but it only pisses off the people who are happy with false predictions. >I've just spent several days not being able to get my > Unitor8mkII to work on my PC with Logic and Sounddiver. Well, this list is a decent place to help you out on this kind of thing. Especially with the great Michael Hayden (SoundDiver and Unitor8 software creator) posting frequently here, purely out of goodwill. f-erenc szabo, smarty pants Z+E+R+O+B+E+A+T "NOW POWERED BY THE MIRACLE OF THE TRANSISTOR!" Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com >>>>> Subject lines MUST contain: LAM/LAW/GEN/OT <<<<< Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/