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From: Eric Lee <eric011@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 6:22:09 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: GEN LAM/Waves ADB dongles under OS X
Message #52876
This is a reply to #52866.
Waves uses a dongle. I have an ADB one which requires me to use an iMate. Is there an alternative from Waves? USB Dongle? CD reauthorizaion? Eric irwin.shur@... wrote: > > Yikes! Markus, please don't tell me that after all this agony (I bought > 4.0 just before the USB dongle became available, had problems with the > iMate, etc., before doing the exchange and entering USB dongle Nirvana), > you guys are going to lose the dongle and go to a system like you use for > Sounddiver. My USB dongle works perfectly. The last thing I want is > another CD I've got to keep around for reauthorization on a regular > basis...Argggh. > > What about a system like Waves, which authorizes the hard drive, but then > does not require reinserting anything later? > > Irwin > ______________________________________ > > Message: 22 > Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 00:09:49 +0100 > From: Markus Fritze <mfritze@...> > Subject: Re: Re: GEN LAM ADB dongles under OS X, my previous post > > Hi! > > > Looks like my iMate's days are numbered. Can anybody tell me > > what Emagic's current policy is on dongle replacement? > > ??? Don't exchange a dongle _NOW_ because of the FUTURE. This is stupid and > unnecessary, e.g. it might be possible, that we change the copy protection > in the future. > > MMM > -- > Markus Fritze > Emagic Soft- und Hardware GmbH <http://www.emagic.de>; > Chief Developer New Technology Integration, Mac OS > > Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > >>>>> Subject lines MUST contain: LAM/LAW/GEN/OT <<<<<
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From: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 6:25:48 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] GEN - USB/ADB dongles and OSX
Message #52877
This is a reply to #52843.
Absolutely! Seems as Digi´s move to serial number copy protection would be a good idea for emagic, too. I won´t buy a new mac just to be able to run a dongle for LAPM. And I´m not willing to waste a PCI slot (that can be or is used for a ProTools Mix card) for an otherwise useless USB card. Or maybe emagic will provide equal Logic versions for MacOS 9.x and OS-X...? Peter http://www.merlinsound.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Connelly" <mpc@...> To: <logic-users@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [LUG] GEN - USB/ADB dongles and OSX > >on 31.01.2001 19:57 Uhr, Mike Connelly at mpc@... wrote: > > > >>> It will happen sooner, e.g. Mac OS X has _no_ support for ADB machines. > >> > >> What exactly does that mean? Builds so far of OSX (including the public > >> beta) have supported ADB machines. Or is it only the "you're not supposed > >> to do this" dongle hack type stuff that isn't supported? > > > >The ADB Manager does and will not exist under Mac OS X, so ADB devices > >except keyboards and mice (which are supported by a hack inside the Mac OS X > >kernel) are not supported under Mac OS X. An ADB dongle will _NEVER_ work > >under Mac OS X. > > So what will emagic recommend? There are usb pci cards available, but they > cost money and some people don't have slots available. And will emagic > continue charging for adb->usb dongle "upgrades" (or might this be included > along with a paid software upgrade 5.0?)? And what is apple telling > developers who need adb functionality? > > I imagine most emagic customers won't be excited about the notion of having > to pay for multiple items (and give up a pci slot) for something that adds > no functionality. > > > Mike > > _________ > Mike Connelly, Composer/Sound Designer > mpc@... / http://www.noisefloor.com > > > > Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > >>>>> Subject lines MUST contain: LAM/LAW/GEN/OT <<<<< >
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From: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 6:29:00 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: GEN LAM ADB dongles under OS X, my previous post
Message #52878
This is a reply to #52848.
Yes. Kicked in the a.. again for using legit software. Especially if it required buying a new computer/peripherals ONLY to be able to run the dongle (beige G3). Peter http://www.merlinsound.de > (FWIW, it's my opinion that Emagic is solely responsible for > upgrading these crappy little boxes. My dongles never worked > reliably on my last two ADB Macs, and now they work unreliably > on my G4 with an iMate. I can understand that it costs them > money, but this is Emagic's precautionary measure against > piracy - thus a USB dongle upgrade should be at their expense, > not mine. I don't have a problem with the notion of having to use > a hardware key, but I don't think it should be up to me to keep the > damn things working).
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From: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 6:30:25 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: GEN LAM ADB dongles under OS X, my previous post
Message #52879
This is a reply to #52856.
THAT sounds promising again... ;-) Peter http://www.merlinsound.de > e.g. it might be possible, that we change the copy protection > in the future. > > > MMM > -- > Markus Fritze > Emagic Soft- und Hardware GmbH <http://www.emagic.de>; > Chief Developer New Technology Integration, Mac OS
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From: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 6:34:47 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] GEN - Dongle-hell and Piracy
Message #52880
This is a reply to #52867.
FYI ProTools 5.1 supports RTAS and TDM even on the same tracks... And there´s Direct Connect. Peter http://www.merlinsound.de > > 6. Will RTAS/TDM and or any other native system coexist taking advantages of > > CPU/DSP raw power simultaneously? > > Depends on Digi, I won't expect it: they want to sell TDM systems.
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From: torbjoern oeiesvold <torbjoern@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 6:35:32 PM
Subject: GEN:Audio-instr.& environment-objects?
Message #52881
Hi. Does anyone know if there is possible to use environment-objects, i.e. delay-line, arpeggiator etc., in conjunction with audio-instruments in 4.7 ? I saw someone talking about it, but could not find anything in the spec`s from Emagic. Thanks. _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
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From: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 6:36:14 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: GEN LAM/Waves ADB dongles under OS X
Message #52882
This is a reply to #52876.
Waves moved to challenge-response with 3.0. No hardware dongle anymore. Peter http://www.merlinsound.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Lee" <eric011@...> To: <logic-users@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: GEN LAM/Waves ADB dongles under OS X > Waves uses a dongle. I have an ADB one which requires me to use an > iMate. Is there an alternative from Waves? USB Dongle? CD reauthorizaion?
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From: Markus Fritze <mfritze@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 6:39:04 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] GEN - Dongle-hell and Piracy
Message #52883
This is a reply to #52880.
on 01.02.2001 1:34 Uhr, Peter Duemmler at merlin@... wrote: > FYI ProTools 5.1 supports RTAS and TDM even on the same tracks... > And there´s Direct Connect. Well, the question is: do they fully support it for other applications than ProTools? MMM -- Markus Fritze Emagic Soft- und Hardware GmbH <http://www.emagic.de>; Chief Developer New Technology Integration, Mac OS
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From: torbjoern oeiesvold <torbjoern@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 6:40:57 PM
Subject: GEN: Key-commands request.
Message #52884
Dear Programmers of the highly esteemed sequencer software Locic Audio Platinum. I will soon by a new powerbook, and request with regard to that, some improvements in Logic versions to come. Ideally every function should be possible to do without the mouse, especially regarding navigating in various editors, and moving/creating new objects and events. but at least the following key-commands should be considered: There should be possible to select events/objects at the exact position of the SPL (song position locator) on the selected track or in sequences (both in play mode and while not running). There should be possible to select events farther away than the adjacent, e.g. ten events away, or at the beginning of every beat. There should be possible, when selecting adjacent events using the toggle next selection key-command (or something like that), to skip one or more events, and then continue selecting events, so that one can make a selection of several events/obj. which is not continious. There should be possible to adjust velocity with a key-command. There should be a key-command which generated at least one midi-event, and ideally an opportunity to select a mode in the matrix/score which enabled at least 12 keys to generate events between C3 and C4 which then could be recorded in either step- or playback-mode. In the repeat objects dialog-box there should be possible to choose between not only the number of repeats, but also location (auto/beat/bar etc.) at the stroke of at least a modifyer key. Consider alternative copy-protection now that laptops are more and more usual. It is late and I have to go to bed, but I can remember I have missed a few more key-commands regarding navigating and midi-programming, so feel free to add some more if it is possible. Finally I would like to say thanks for a great product. _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
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From: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 6:44:10 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] GEN - Dongle-hell and Piracy
Message #52885
This is a reply to #52883.
I don´t know. Will the EXS-TDM run within ProTools? Is there a chance of using Control24 with Logic? BTW: Can you tell us some specifications of the upcoming Mackie-Logic controller? Will it work with ProTools also? If not, it seems I´m bound to buy the SAC-2K (though I´d like it to have greater fader resolution than 256...). Peter http://www.merlinsound.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "Markus Fritze" <mfritze@...> To: <logic-users@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 1:39 AM Subject: Re: [LUG] GEN - Dongle-hell and Piracy > on 01.02.2001 1:34 Uhr, Peter Duemmler at merlin@... wrote: > > > FYI ProTools 5.1 supports RTAS and TDM even on the same tracks... > > And there´s Direct Connect. > > Well, the question is: do they fully support it for other applications than > ProTools? > > > MMM > -- > Markus Fritze > Emagic Soft- und Hardware GmbH <http://www.emagic.de>; > Chief Developer New Technology Integration, Mac OS
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From: "Mike" <madelefant@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 6:53:06 PM
Subject: Re: GEN: Aw8 card. Why does emagic keep hawking this card?
Message #52886
This is a reply to #52874.
--- In logic-users@y..., Markus Fritze <mfritze@m...> wrote: > > Well, our hardware always was _really_ successful. Who should market a > device better than we do? I don't know a company. > > But you are right for some markets: e.g. Mackie is a _great_ partner for > Emagic. Nobody can build better MIDI controllers. But - as always - we don't > simply buy a device and OEM it. We sat together with Mackie to _design_ a > real Emagic device! > > > MMM > -- > Markus Fritze Hello there Markus. Really appreciate your posting here and putting up with the flack. My concern about the Aw8 is just that we have mostly moved onto a 24 bit world. Obviously there are many 24 bit cards out there but I thought maybe not having a 24 bit card reflects on the reputation of emagic as a leader in this industry, to some degree, in the buyers mind. Just my 2 cents. Mike
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From: Freimuzic@...
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 6:56:26 PM
Subject: LAWP using LAWP with Aark24
Message #52887
Hi Guillermo: THanks again for following up on this issue. i really appreciate your help. I got in contact with Andrew Finley from emagic tech support and we were able to set LAWP to work with the asio drivers of aark24. This is done by disabling al drivers in the 1st page of the audio hardware-drivers menu and selecting asio on the 2nd page of audio hardware-drivers menu. Now LAWP turns on ok and it seems o ran ok with one major exception: it plays and record audio with a loud crackling noise. We tried a couple of diferent buffer settings with no luck. I know that my system is ok, since I use it all day with Giga Studio and it works great. Andrew emailed me some sugestions to try to resolve this problem. I have not tried any of them yet, including yours, since I'm in the middle of a deadline, but I hope to be able to do this on Friday. In any event I wanted to share this info with all the LUG users in case somebody else can benefit from them Regards, Daniel Subj: Logic windows settings Date: 1/30/01 7:17:11 PM Eastern Standard Time From: support@... (EmagicUSA Support) To: freimuzic@... Here are some suggestions for setting up Logic in Windows. First, make sure that you have the latest version of Logic installed which is available at: http://www.emagic.de/english/support/download/update.html 1) Reduce the color depth on the system to 256 if you are using a PCI video card. If your video card is AGP, then set the Color Depth no higher than 16 bit. 2) In the System Properties>Performance>Graphics window, reduce the "Hardware Acceleration" setting. 3) In the System Properties>Performance>File System window, set the typical role of the computer to either "Desktop System" or "Network Server" Also, set the 'Read Ahead Optimization" to "None". 4) If the problem persists, try switching from the current video driver to the generic VGA driver provided by Windows. This will look awful, but I'd like you to test the audio performance with this. If it improves, then we will know that your video driver is the problem. You can then check with the manufacturer about an updated driver, or perhaps some hidden software switches to help. 5) Switch off "Auto Insert Notification" for your CD drive. 6) In the "System.ini" file, limit the swap file size by inserting the following lines under [vcache] MinFileCache92 MaxFileCache92 Another thing you can try is press ctrl/alt/del and end task everything except Explorer and Systray. Try trashing the Logic preferences file. Quit Logic. Go to your hard drive and open the Windows folder. In here is a file called logic32.prf. Move this file to the desktop. Open Logic. Once you are in Logic go to Audio Hardware and Drivers and initialize the appropriate hardware. Logic will automatically create a new, default preference file once you quit Logic. Any key commands you have assigned will be gone. You can import key commands from your old prefs file by choosing import key commands from the options menu of the key commands window. Select the prefs file on your desktop and click Open. If you can't open Logic, try launching with the Alt key. To do this, launch Logic and as soon as you release the mouse button, press and hold Alt. Say no to any prompts to launch audio drivers. If you are using an autoload song file then you should try opening an untitled song. This is done through Logic. Go to the File menu. Press and hold Ctrl and select New. See if the problem still occurs in the untitled song. You should check your device manager and disable any hardware you are not using. You can also check you Win.ini by going to Start > Run > and type in sysedit. Then, click on the Win.INI window. Scroll to the bottom and look for the section that begins with [Logic]. Check all midi ins and outs and change all midi ports that you are not using to =0 instead of =1. If all else fails, you should probably backup any data you wish to save, format the hard drive, reinstall Windows and then install Logic. If this works then add your audio hardware and midi interface. Let me know if any of this helps. Andrew Finley Software Technician Emagic Inc. 530-477-1050 Technical Support 530-477-1051 Sales and Administration 530-477-1052 Fax afinley@... __________________________________________________________ Subj: Re: Using Aark 20 or similars Date: 1/30/01 12:59:23 PM Eastern Standard Time From: gpiccolini@... (Guillermo Piccolini) To: FreiMuzic@... Hi : First : Wich logic version do you use ? nothing less than a 4.22 will work . Second : assuming you have a proper Lads version there is a second audio driver page in 4.6 wich shows the asio drivers . Don't know anything about mme drivers since my LAWP won't see them ( altough wave player does ... strange isn't it ? ) third : This is a little hardcore , if it's too much for you , ask a friend to do it .In windows go to system /device manager and select computer and then properties . Once there , select memory . this page shows you wich memory addresses are in use , and wich device uses it . It's hexadecimal ( 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,A.B.C.D.E.F ) look for an unuse location at around 1xxxxxxx or 2xxxxxx and write it on paper ( it won't shows as unused , you have to figure where the hole is) then go to system /device manager and select aark properties /resources and deselect automatic settings . select memory range , and enter the new location ( what I usually do is to change just the first number ) . hit apply and reboot. Don't forget to let me know ----- Original Message ----- From: FreiMuzic@... To: gpiccolini@... ; logic-users@yahoogroups.com ; pete@... ; tim@... Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 11:13 AM Subject: Using Aark 20 or similars HI GUILLERMO: Thanks so much for your reply. I upgraded the Aark24 drivers and Logic turns on. But it freezes the moment I hit play even with the default untitled song with no midi and audio tracks active. Using LADS, I follw the directions in the manual and selected Aark 24 i/o # 5,6,7,8 to be used with LAWP, since I want to reserve i/o 1,2,3,4 for Giga Studio. This way, LADS creates a New Virtual Device for LAWP using the MME drivers. I don't know how to choose the ASIO drivers. Could you tell me how? Thanks so much for your help. Sincerely, Daniel PS.: My system: Soundchaser PIII 800 Mhz win 98SE with the Aark24 , 256 RAM, Giga Studio , 20 gig system drive, 45gig IBM Ultra ATA66 for Audio, internal Yamaha 8416 scsi CDRW with initio 9100U scsi card. Matrox dual head video card. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 15:23:45 -0000 From: gpiccolini@... Subject: Re: RE:LAW : Ausing Aark 20 or similars Hi : Why don't you use the asio drivers ? They work with my 20/20 and my AW8 without problem . If they don't work , maybe you have a conflict with the video card . If you believe that I can explain how to solve it ( long.... ) regards
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From: Markus Fritze <mfritze@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 6:56:30 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: GEN: Aw8 card. Why does emagic keep hawking this card?
Message #52888
This is a reply to #52886.
on 01.02.2001 1:53 Uhr, Mike at madelefant@... wrote: > Hello there Markus. Really appreciate your posting here and putting up > with the flack. My concern about the Aw8 is just that we have mostly > moved onto a 24 bit world. The Audiowerk8 is _several_ years old. If you want 24 bit in 2001 from Emagic: the EMI 2|6 fully supports 24 bit. MMM -- Markus Fritze Emagic Soft- und Hardware GmbH <http://www.emagic.de>; Chief Developer New Technology Integration, Mac OS
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From: Markus Fritze <mfritze@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 6:56:33 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] GEN - Dongle-hell and Piracy
Message #52889
This is a reply to #52885.
Hi! > Will the EXS-TDM run within ProTools? From www.emagic.de: Emagic, the renowned European software and hardware developer, is proud to announce the EXS24 TDM, a new 24 Bit software sampler for TDM systems running under Logic Audio Platinum Macintosh. > Is there a chance of using Control24 with Logic? We asked them and they said: no. > BTW: Can you tell us some specifications of the upcoming Mackie-Logic > controller? No, you have to wait till Frankfurt. MMM -- Markus Fritze Emagic Soft- und Hardware GmbH <http://www.emagic.de>; Chief Developer New Technology Integration, Mac OS
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From: Malcolm Payne <mpmusic@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 7:05:19 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] GEN - Dongle-hell and Piracy
Message #52890
This is a reply to #52880.
At 1:34 AM +0100 2/1/01, Peter Duemmler wrote: >FYI ProTools 5.1 supports RTAS and TDM even on the same tracks... Peter, Am I the only boy on the planet not to be totally blown away by this? i.e. what is so special about RTAS ? Isn't it just another proprietary Digidesign format, only useable on Digidesign systems? And, if that's the case, what differentiates it from TDM in the first place (practically speaking)? Now, if they came out and said they would support VST, that would be something.. Regards Malcolm -- ----------------- Malcolm Payne Music SF/NY
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From: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 7:11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] GEN - Dongle-hell and Piracy
Message #52891
This is a reply to #52889.
Nice. :-/ You call yourselves "development partners" and each of you produces stuff for your own app exclusively. Imagine a studio that has to work with both LAPM and ProTools software. I need the EXS-TDM, I´ll power up Logic; I want to mix with Control 24, I´ll boot ProTools; a client wants to mix in LAPM, go out and buy a Logic controller, redesign the control room (hey, just push that Control24 away to the floor for the next 2 hours, then get it back in and remove the Logic controller. Comfortable working athmosphere...). Peter http://www.merlinsound.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "Markus Fritze" <mfritze@...> To: <logic-users@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 1:56 AM Subject: Re: [LUG] GEN - Dongle-hell and Piracy > Hi! > > > Will the EXS-TDM run within ProTools? > > >From www.emagic.de: > > Emagic, the renowned European software and hardware developer, is proud to > announce the EXS24 TDM, a new 24 Bit software sampler for TDM systems > running under Logic Audio Platinum Macintosh. > > > > Is there a chance of using Control24 with Logic? > > We asked them and they said: no. > > > > BTW: Can you tell us some specifications of the upcoming Mackie-Logic > > controller? > > No, you have to wait till Frankfurt. > > > MMM > -- > Markus Fritze > Emagic Soft- und Hardware GmbH <http://www.emagic.de>; > Chief Developer New Technology Integration, Mac OS
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From: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 7:15:30 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] GEN - Dongle-hell and Piracy
Message #52892
This is a reply to #52890.
You´re right. But somehow it may be simpler to port TDM/Audiosuite plugs to RTAS than to VST? Or it´s just a revenge from Digi because Steinberg quit TDM support 1 and a half year ago...? I´m hoping one time there will be ONE standard (but I hope it´s not VST or anything else by Steinberg - I have been spoiled by them more than once). Peter http://www.merlinsound.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Payne" <mpmusic@...> To: <logic-users@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 2:05 AM Subject: Re: [LUG] GEN - Dongle-hell and Piracy > At 1:34 AM +0100 2/1/01, Peter Duemmler wrote: > >FYI ProTools 5.1 supports RTAS and TDM even on the same tracks... > > > Peter, > > Am I the only boy on the planet not to be totally blown away > by this? i.e. what is so special about RTAS ? Isn't it just another > proprietary Digidesign format, only useable on Digidesign systems? > And, if that's the case, what differentiates it from TDM in the first > place (practically speaking)? Now, if they came out and said they > would support VST, that would be something.. > > Regards > > Malcolm
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From: "beat master" <beathive@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 7:17:26 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Digest Number 2350
Message #52893
Im running 4.6.3 on a Mac B&W400 with sys 8.6 & AMIII and I am experiencing crashes also and starting to get really angry. I lost a lot of work today and I was only working with one audio file. I can't get anything done! I have 512MB of ram with a skeleton extension set. Why is this happening? Ran Disk First Aid - ran nortons - defragmented everything - moved all audio files off the IDE - re-allocated LA memory (80MB) - zapped P-RAM etc etc blah blah blah. Are you using Direct I/O? I'm beginning to wonder if maybe DAE might be worth trying with MAC A/V. I need VST effects though. Ahhh I'm frustrated. >From: Fabrizio Romagnoli <corner@...> >Reply-To: logic-users@yahoogroups.com >To: <logic-users@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [LUG] Digest Number 2350 >Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 01:05:23 +0100 > >GEN/Problems with dual G4 450 > >Is there anybody on the list having stability problems with dual G4? >sometimes the performance meter goes off, even when it shouldn't be.. >Sometimes the machine crashes and that's really unfair if you consider the >bloody money I invested into it... >Please help...is it a matter of hardware or software >My config: Dual G4 450/384Mb,digi 001,Logic Audio 4.6.3,OS 9.0.4 > > >Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > >>>>> Subject lines MUST contain: LAM/LAW/GEN/OT <<<<< > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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From: Mike Baker <heykaboom@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 7:25:20 PM
Subject: LAWG--Automation problem/question
Message #52894
Hi: I'm trying to mix this song that has a lot of automation (for me)in it, including a faded ending. I wanted to put a fader bang (right term?) at the very beginning of the song which would reset all the faders in the audio mixer in their proper positions. Sooo..... after setting all my faders the way I wanted them, I went to the beginning of the song, record-enabled A-Playback, put Logic in record-pause and hit "V", which my Key Commands window tells me is shorthand for "send all current fader values". Then hit stop. An object appeared in the track, and when I highlighted it and opened an event list window, lots of volume, eq and pan info for the different channels appeared. However, all the vol and pan stuff was _wrong_. I tried again: same problem. Then I erased the object, manually reset the faders, put Logic in record-pause, selected all the faders, wiggled them a little, and returned them to the correct positions. I ran the song through the faded ending, returned to zero....and still didn't get the correct values back. I'm puzzled. Anyone out there know what's going on? Thanks in advance. ~ Mike B. LAWG 4.5 224 mb RAM PII 333mhz Win98 MAudio Delta 66 Fisher Price Grand Piano ====Michael Baker heykaboom@... __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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From: musikman@...
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 2:17:24 PM
Subject: LAMP: Hyper Draw Lag
Message #52895
I am running an 6500/225 mac with OS 8.6 i have a DIGI001 card. whether i am using audio or midi, there is a problem with the Hyper Draw. It wont respond quick enough. so if i have an audio file, it takes logic a second to realize that i have changed the volume/pan etc.... the same thing happeds when i use Hyper draw with midi. i was wondering if this is a processor issue, of whether there is something else wrong. If so, what am i to do? thanks Andrew Hoglund Jazz Trumpet/Musical Composition/ Sound Design. andrewhoglund@...
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From: "Peter Duemmler" <merlin@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 7:47:06 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] LAWG--Automation problem/question
Message #52896
This is a reply to #52894.
How many tracks (objects) do you use? You have to use one channel splitter for every 16 objects (named A-Playback for 1-16, B-Playback for 17-32 etc.). Then select e.g. the A-Playback track for recording the values and select ONLY those 16 objects in the environment, hit record-pause, hit "send selected fader values". Repeat for the other X-Playback tracks and objects. You should also check the cabling of the objects to the X-Playback channel splitters... Peter http://www.merlinsound.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Baker" <heykaboom@...> To: <logic-users@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 2:25 AM Subject: [LUG] LAWG--Automation problem/question > Hi: > I'm trying to mix this song that has a lot of > automation (for me)in it, including a faded ending. I > wanted to put a fader bang (right term?) at the very > beginning of the song which would reset all the faders > in the audio mixer in their proper positions. > Sooo..... after setting all my faders the way I > wanted them, I went to the beginning of the song, > record-enabled A-Playback, put Logic in record-pause > and hit "V", which my Key Commands window tells me is > shorthand for "send all current fader values". Then > hit stop. An object appeared in the track, and when I > highlighted it and opened an event list window, lots > of volume, eq and pan info for the different channels > appeared. However, all the vol and pan stuff was > _wrong_. > I tried again: same problem. Then I erased the > object, manually reset the faders, put Logic in > record-pause, selected all the faders, wiggled them a > little, and returned them to the correct positions. I > ran the song through the faded ending, returned to > zero....and still didn't get the correct values back. > I'm puzzled. Anyone out there know what's going on? > Thanks in advance. ~ Mike B.
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From: erlkoenig666@...
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 6:58:37 PM
Subject: OT - Re: Gigasampler organ inquiry
Message #52897
This is a reply to #52795.
--- In logic-users@y..., steve@o... wrote: > Does anyone here have experience using either Peter Ewers Symphonic Organ or > the Post Organ Tool Kit? I've heard the demo of the Symphonic Organ > (Cavaille Coll, La Madeleine, Paris) and it's very impressive, I especially > like the 4 seconds of reverb at the end of each note. If anyone's heard the > Post Organ Tool Kit I'm curious how it compares in terms of sonic quality, > registrational appropriateness to a wide variety of styles and overall > impression. Has anyone used both? I have just bought the GS Ewers Symphonic organ. The tutti is really awesome. The release trigger reverb was recorded in the church and is seamless. Pedal is very good. Fonds are ok, but the reverb is not as good as the tutti (too much resonance to my taste). Playing the tutti is a quasi-religious experience. Cheers EK
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From: "beat master" <beathive@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 9:11:24 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] LAMP: Hyper Draw Lag
Message #52898
My guess is that that's latency from your 001. Are you sending the MIDI through the 001? I have automation latency with my AMIII as well. The way you control that is in the Direct I/O hardaware setup window. Set the buffer size low for low latency/low track count. Set it higher (2 in my case) for increased track count with a little more latency. 225mhz is slow so maybe you'll do better to keep it lower. .5 or 1. I've gotten much better at moving the entire hyper draw action back in the event editor. Just grab the entire fade in the event editor and move it back manually while the cue is looping. Then you can place the cue quite accurately. Good Luck >From: musikman@... >Reply-To: logic-users@yahoogroups.com >To: logic-users@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [LUG] LAMP: Hyper Draw Lag >Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:17:24 -0000 > >I am running an 6500/225 mac with OS 8.6 > >i have a DIGI001 card. > >whether i am using audio or midi, there is a problem with the Hyper Draw. >It wont respond quick enough. >so if i have an audio file, it takes logic a second to realize that i have >changed the volume/pan etc.... >the same thing happeds when i use Hyper draw with midi. i was wondering if >this is a processor issue, of whether >there is something else wrong. If so, what am i to do? > >thanks > >Andrew Hoglund >Jazz Trumpet/Musical Composition/ Sound Design. >andrewhoglund@... > > > >Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > >>>>> Subject lines MUST contain: LAM/LAW/GEN/OT <<<<< > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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From: "Adam Calaitzis" <adamcal@...>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 9:19:41 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: GEN: Aw8 card. Why does emagic keep hawking this card?
Message #52899
This is a reply to #52874.
> > Well, our hardware always was _really_ successful. Who should market a > device better than we do? I don't know a company. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the AW8 card has been the single most troublesome thing I have ever bought. Mainly as a MME card I found it to be a piece of silicon crap. The MME drivers were very slow coming didn't work properly and still don't. I cant tell you how many times the AW8 MME drivers let me down in front of clients. I bought a different card and have never had another problem. The AW8 works ok with logic however People are right to be sceptical about new emagic audio hardware. We haven't forgotten the problems and slow drivers with the AW8, the automation and monitoring latency, not to mention the empty slot where the daughter board should have given us expanded I/O, but never came. I can remember lots of waiting and waiting. Adam Calaitzis Toyland Recording Studio Australia www.ozemail.com.au/~adamcal/
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From: gpiccolini@...
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 at 9:43:58 PM
Subject: Re: GEN: Aw8 card. Why does emagic keep hawking this card?
Message #52900
This is a reply to #52899.
Hey : I don't feel my AW8 that way . It doesn't sounds very good , but it does it job ( varispeed ) and never crashed too much on my machine ( after 3.03 drivers almost never ) and I use it a lot . I don't like the emagic's blah blah either , but the hardware I tested from them was always good . Said that , I want a 8in8out 24/96 adat midi with some dsp included . That will be something --- In logic-users@y..., "Adam Calaitzis" <adamcal@o...> wrote: > > > > Well, our hardware always was _really_ successful. Who should market a > > device better than we do? I don't know a company. > > > Sorry to burst your bubble, but the AW8 card has been the single most > troublesome thing I have ever bought. > Mainly as a MME card I found it to be a piece of silicon crap. The MME > drivers were very slow coming didn't work properly and still don't. I cant > tell you how many times the AW8 MME drivers let me down in front of clients. > I bought a different card and have never had another problem. The AW8 works > ok with logic however > > People are right to be sceptical about new emagic audio hardware. We > haven't forgotten the problems and slow drivers with the AW8, the automation > and monitoring latency, not to mention the empty slot where the daughter > board should have given us expanded I/O, but never came. I can remember lots > of waiting and waiting. > > Adam Calaitzis > Toyland Recording Studio > Australia > www.ozemail.com.au/~adamcal/
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