Hello Everyone, I have LAWP 3.61 and have been trying in vain for days to record enable the tracks on my Alesis ADAT XT's. I have followed the instructions contained in the LAWP 3.5 owner's manual (Chapter 16 pages 16-15,16-16,16-17) to the letter. I'm using the MOTU MTPAV(non-USB) as my midi interface. I have been on the phone with MOTU tech support and they had me do a "hard reset" which didn't make any difference. They informed me that with a "hard reset" the MTPAV couldn't possibly be filtering or re-channeling the MMC commands that Logic is sending out. This shouldn't matter anyway since isn't MMC sent out to all ports over all channels anyway? They directed me to Emagic tech support stating that maybe LAWP 3.61 doesn't fully support MMC. I then called Emagic USA tech support who proceeded to very patiently walk me through the entire procedure that as stated in the manual (page 16-16). After a lengthy phone call which included most if not all the tech support gurus in California they came to the conclusion that I'm doing everything right and that it should be working. So this is where I stand. The following are every bit of information I can think to share in regards to what the program is doing. 1. My ADAT's are recognizing REC, PLAY, FF, REW, PAUSE, just NOT the Record Enable of the individual ADAT Tracks. 2. Logic is also creating an empty "MMC Recorded" for whatever tracks I click on in the Arrange window like it's supposed to, only the ADAT's again never responded. 3. Logic is showing the following midi message on any MMC commend. (X 1 127 127) 4. I've also experimented with changing the Device ID of the MTPAV as well as the ADAT's to no avail. 5. The MMC tape tracks (icon #305) ARE the first 8 or 16 tracks in the arrange window. 6. I've created only one (icon #305) instrument in the environment and repeated it 8x in the arrange window and I've also tried eight (icon #305) instruments used only 1x each. Both haven't worked. 7. Just to be sure I also contacted Alesis to make sure my ADAT's fully supported all the MMC commands and they do. So there is my problem. This group is my last hope. If anyone has any experience using MMC functions in Logic I would love to hear from you. Any thoughts, suggestions, things to try would be very greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for all responses!!! Glenn Hansen

> I still use 3.6 , wich I feel a lot more stable than 4.x versions . > Am I right or am I crazy ? It could not be possible for me to achieve what I do now by using the Audio plugs of 3.6! I even had glitches when EQ-ing a kickdrum. The same song worked flawlessly in 4.0. No. I didn't have a DirectX phaser, flanger, tape delay with saturation, platinumverb, compressor and autofilter already :-). Not to speak of the highly creative free Maxim VST Plugs of Paul Kellett... Eppo Schaap Netherlands

I suppose that you are using LAC that comes with the card. This is a well known bug. Here is what you have to do to work around it: In the Mixer window set one of the tracks to Input: digital. Then record digital silence onto this track, the length of the song. When you now try to bounce use the digital bounce button. This will work. Jeannot Welter. cbeceiro@... wrote: > I am new to Logic and this group so I have a basic question that > Emagic support has been very slow in answering. I have AW2 on a PC. > My ultimate goal is to burn a track I recorded in Logic Audio > Composer to CD. I bounced the track to an interleaved stereo wav > file in the mixer. When I tried to play the finished wav file on > RealPlayer, there was just three minutes of silence. When I burned > the track to CD, again there was just three minutes of silence where > I burned the track. What am I doing wrong? > > Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com

Thanks everybody for the advice on Retrospect, I'll check it out! Should I go for the Express version or the desktop version? Best Regards Kim Baekgaard > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: johnp@... [mailto:johnp@...] > Sendt: 11. juli 2000 01:39 > Til: logic-users@egroups.com > Emne: [LUG] Re: Backup programs for Audio Projects > > > --- In logic-users@egroups.com, Kim Bækgaard <kibk@p...> > wrote: > > Does anybody know of a Program that's able to backup > everything in a > > directory, specified by the user, on CDs. > > If you have a project placed in a directory filling up for instance > 3GB, and > > wants to back it up, by burning CDs, but don't want to manually > keep track > > of what files that allready has been burnt to CDs? > > You want Retrospect. > > It's Mac and Windows these days -the most excellent backup > software on the face of the planet. Once stuff is backed up, you > can search the archive by whatever criteria you choose, and > restore just the files you need. No need to keep track of what's > on which CD. I've been using it to run network backups and > archiving for years, to 8mm DAT, CD-R and CD-RW. It supports a > wide range of backup devices. > > check out http://www.dantz.com > > John Pitcairn > > > > > Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com >

Have you booted the PCI-324 Console application, to check that your 1224 is on Internal sync ??? I presume that you are not synchronising to any other device. Also check all of your sample rates. Is this any help ?? Cheers P.Dub.

hi everyone i am using a yamaha vl70 sound module ( in voice mode) along with a k2000(master) and korg x3. my interface is a unitor mk2 my environment consist of a very simple " scratch" environment as describe in len sasso's tool kit ( starting from stratch pg 18) the problem is the vl70. after selecting the instrument within a short time it will " freeze" it appears to be a loopback or similar problem. i have tried seting the note filter to channel 1( pg 99 of vl manual) but that does'nt seem to help. i also set the instrument to "no thru' in the midi option page but then it does'nt seem to recieve midi data . is the solution thru a fader or other tool has anyone had this problem?? thanks in advanced. mike harper

I'm directing this question at anyone who runs logic with quicktime movies, or anyone at emagic (Markus?) that can hopefully shed some light... I have posted about this before but not sure if I made my initial question clear enough... I want to run logic with two monitors, in a sense, but NOT 2 VGA monitors - one monitor which is the computer's display, and the other an RGB television style display showing ONLY the quicktime movie that's imported into logic. this would approximate the way I have been working using VHS tape machines or umatic with timecode as a video source. In a pro-tools studio that I use, there is a powermac running a TDM system. pro-tools comes up, obviously, on the computer's monitor and a television monitor plays back the video that pro-tools is locked to off HD via a miro capture card. my questions are : can I tell logic to output it's quicktime movie to an rgb monitor, or does quicktime somehow do it automatically?? can I do this with an inexpensive USB video capture box that has an rgb output?..image quality is not that important since it is only a sync dub so I'd rather avoid spending big bucks on an expensive PCI capture card. I just want to be able to suck vision in from VHS, make it into a quicktime movie, lock logic to it and output the video to my television monitor while logic is running. this works easily, yeah??? any help/advice gets...er...some steak knives maybe? :-) antonio gambale

> ** Original Message follows... > From: "Geren W. Mortensen, Jr." <gcmhobbies@...> > Subject: Re: re: LAMP 4.2.2 / G4 500 / MTP AV = still crash ! > > Where can I find this beta? I went to the site yesterday to look but all I > could find was 1.44. Thanks. Email MOTU tech support and ask for it. (sales@...) Mars

Gilles Rupert wrote: >Sorry Alberto, but I think Denis is right. Dither noise does not only mask >but it gets away the quantization errors. You are right when you say that >the quantization error is periodic and due to that disturbing us, whereas >dither noise is unperiodic and not disturbing as it is not related to the >music signal. Denis is right when he says that dither noise helps the very >low signals to "attend" the treshold of the lowest bit. There is hell a lot >more about this, and I have to say that I got my knowledge about this from >the book "the Principles of Digital Audio" by Ken C. Pohlman and some >courses at the SAE college. So if someone does not agree, I'm not willing to >fight ;-) about this, I'm only saying what I read in serious books etc.;-)) Thank you. Here is a simple example to illustrate how dithering preserves low volume signals. The details of the actual execution are a little different and the values are a little overstated but the principle holds. Imagine You have a low frequency square wave, say for example 22.5 cycles sampled at 44.1k. You want to preserve it but lower its volume by 90 percent. If you draw it on a graph the upper part of the wave hits a value of +4 the lower part hits -4. Imagine that a value of 1 is equal to the least significant bit. If you cut its volume by 90% the upper and lower values become +0.4 and -0.4. Since the least significant bit is equal to the value 1 and the values are less than half of the volume of the least significant bit the sixty cycle square wave is completely eliminated from the signal because the 0.4 -0.4 values will always be rounded to zero. Remember this is a 22.5 cycle square wave so a single cycle will include around 1000 individual positive and 1000 negative samples at 44.1k. Now imagine that you add a completely random dithering noise comprised of values varying between +3 and -3 to the original signal before you decrease the volume. Now the top part of the wave will fluctuate between a value of 1 and 7 and it's average value will be 4 and the same will be true for the bottom part of the wave it will fluctuate between -7 and -1 and have an average value of -4. *Now* when you decrease volume of the signal most of the samples with the positive value will be rounded to zero but some of them, since there will be some 0.6s and 0.7s in there, will be rounded to 1, (none of them will be rounded to -1). When you add up the zeros and ones for the 1000 or so consecutive samples that corespond to the positive part of the wave and divide by 1000 you will find the average value will be 0.4. Conversely the exact same thing will happen to the negative part of the wave you will have 1000 samples whose value fluctuates between -1 and zero and their average value will be -0.4 and it will always be a negative value. Thus you will have a noise signal with a low frequency 22.5 cycle component and the volume of that 22.5 cycle component will be less than half the volume of the least significant bit. Thus you will have preserved a 22.5 cycle signal by dithering that otherwise would have disapeared because it would have been under half the threashold volume level represented by the least significant bit. his is the principle by which dithering helps keep the tail ends of notes from getting truncated at low bit depths. It is also worth noting dithering noise does not need to be in the audible spectrum and does not need to be audilbe itself in order to make the lower frequency components of a signal audible. Thats why I have always thought a 96k sampling rate would be pretty cool because you could do some pretty hefty dithering well out of the audible range. Dennis Gunn Mightyjohn@... check out MIGHTY JOHN HENRY's album "hot air head" info at http://www.twics.com/~mightyjo/home.html

Mike, I've had the same problems as you have, and I've gone through the steps you mention to rectify it. sadly, however, I was not able to find another solution than to disconnect the VL's midi out so that no midi looping can occur. admittedly I haven't tried tweaking Logic to filter out incoming midi, but I guess it should be doable. good luck! Björn Elfström ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike harper" <mike_harper98@...> To: <logic-users@egroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 5:13 AM Subject: [LUG] VL70 midi feedback problem | hi everyone | i am using a yamaha vl70 sound module ( in voice mode) | along with a k2000(master) and korg x3. my interface is a unitor mk2 | my environment consist of a very simple " scratch" environment as | describe in len sasso's tool kit ( starting from stratch pg 18) | the problem is the vl70. after selecting the instrument within a | short time it will " freeze" it appears to be a loopback or similar | problem. i have tried seting the note filter to channel 1( pg 99 of | vl manual) but that does'nt seem to help. i also set the instrument | to "no thru' in the midi option page but then it does'nt seem to | recieve midi data . is the solution thru a fader or other tool | has anyone had this problem?? | thanks in advanced. | mike harper

----- Original Message ----- From: Neil Marsh <drwho@...> To: <logic-users@egroups.com> Cc: <sounddiver-users@egroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 4:12 PM Subject: [SoundDiver] HELP: Building New System > Anyway, I have sent my system in to be diagnosed for its various > problems and, after looking at the component price lists at this > place here in Cambridge, MA (www.pcsforeveryone.com), I believe I > can completely rebuild my system for far less than I had expected. > > I have read several articles at www.prorec.com about motherboards, > processors, hard drives, etc. and, recalling recommendations from > people here, I am far better informed than I was when I bought my > first system. However, I would still like some input from the > "gang". > > Some of the info I found in the "Roll Your Own" article at ProRec > recommended the ABIT BH6/BX6 motherboard. However, the PC place no > longer carries that board, but carries instead: > > ABIT BE6-II (w/UDMA 66, 5-P, 1-I Pentium-III Slot-1) > ABIT BP6 440BX (Dual Socket-370 Celeron) > ASUS CUV4X (via133a 5PCI/1isa P-III Sock-370) > > Anyone have any comment on these boards or recommend another P-III > board? > > As to processors, I am looking at a P-III/133eb fcpga chip at either > 667 or 733 MHz. Does that seem sensible? > > For hard drives I was considering two 27GB Maxtor 2700rpm EIDE > drives, one for apps (w/3 partitions [business apps/games/music & > audio apps]) and one for recording. Are these drives fast enough? > > I am considering a Matrox G400 AGP card for video. I want to be able > to do some video editing work, still have decent graphics for games > and yet one that will work with Logic/Sounddiver. Am I dreaming that > I can get such on one machine? > > Finally, with my PC in the shop, I am resorting to my wife's Amiga > for getting mail and surfing the web (text only), so research is a > pain in the butt. Is there anyone in the States who is savvy on > building your own systems for audio who would be willing to chat on > the phone if more details are needed? > > Feel free to ask questions. I want to do this right this time! > > Cheers! > > -Neil You may want to check out the www.rme-audio.com site. They have a good tech info section and specs for their referrence PC. A lot of people on the list swear by RME cards also. I'd use a separate machine, or a game console for games as they can change the way Windows handles audio during their install. That seems to be a standard recomendation. Good luck Steve

doh, replying to oneself feels kinda stupid ;-). anyway, I found a solution that seems to work. that is, I assigned the output of Bus 1 to Lexicon's Aux Send and then the MP-100 returns the signal by mixing it back with the D/A-1 and 2 outputs. it works, but I wonder if anyone has got another setup? using the card as an VST-plugin seems to crash Logic, which is in line with Lexicon's advice :-(. rgds, Björn Elfström ----- Original Message ----- From: "Björn Elfström" <bjorn@...> | hi, | | I just got the MP-100 effects daugher card for my Lexicon Core 2 with LAWP | 4.2.2. I fooled around for a very short while, but couldn't figure out how | to configure it to actually hear anything. would anybody have been here, | done this already ;-)? | | cheers, | | Björn Elfström

I got a quick question..I cannot get this environment working...What am I doing wrong? RIO

Hey list, I am trying to work with a friend of mine who is blind so that he can begin to use Logic. He uses JAWS. If you are familiar with this I would like to chat with you. Now on to the main point. One of the things that we would like to be able to to is print out (or to a file) the key commands list. Do any of you know how I might do that? Thanks for your help, Lance Lasky Miracle Creations

Vicente Prats Fraser wrote: > el 11/7/00 17:56, Cyril Blanc en blanc.cyril@... escribió: > > > DIGI001, an interim version with all the bug fixes is URGENT > > Also there are problems using the LAMP Compressor !! > > Cyril > > > > what's the problem with the Compressor? Is it a 001-related bug? I don't know if it is 001 related, but sometime if you play audio and midi tracks, audio stop playing, while the midi keeps playing and then you loose mouse an KB. Tuning off the compressors is fixing the problem. Steffan has fixed the problem and it should be included in next version. Cyril

keycommands-window - options - copy keycommands to clipboard now you can paste it into any text-editor... btw., that´s one of the most useful things you can do to get a grip on logic´s features; highly recommended!!! (make two copies: one with "hide unused" checked, so you have an overview about your used kc´s, and one complete list; read thru it twice a day; make it your favourite mantra); second tip: read the manual from top to bottom, twice a year 8-) Herb > Now on to the main point. One of the things that we would like to be able > to to is print out (or to a file) the key commands list. Do any of you know > how I might do that?

I´m running LAWP in conjunction with a miro dc 30+; on windows it can just playback avi´s and no mov´s, don´t know about mac... don´t ask me how i configured it, because the miro-card was chosen automatically to be my video playback-device with logic; works great! Herb From: "antonio gambale" <tonester@...> > I want to run logic with two monitors, in a sense, but NOT 2 VGA monitors - > one monitor which is the computer's display, and the other an RGB television > style display showing ONLY the quicktime movie that's imported into logic. > this would approximate the way I have been working using VHS tape machines > or umatic with timecode as a video source. >

Hello; I am using the UA-30 with my powerbook 400, I ended up buying the ASIO drivers from www.usb-audio.com/ after a long debate on this list, it seems to work fine, the converters are clean and beyond crisp for recording MIDI into a powerbook, the internal AV on the powerbook is fine, but I think the roland sound much cleaner and transparent. A BIG BENIFIT you get with the UA-30 "especialy if your looking for portability" is that it acts as a mixer so you can always hear your midi through the output without invoking the monitoring option from logic which puts stress on the audio engine, THIS IS GREAT for Playing software synth with very low latency...., also there are REAL faders to control the input and the output. I highly recommend this combo for laptop users... Bashar

"i have tried seting the note filter to channel 1" Turn it off! Make a Vl70- instrument in the environment,give it an Icon,then check the NO THRU option in the midi page..........works for me! Gareth

At 2:13 +0000 12.07.00, mike harper wrote: > i am using a yamaha vl70 sound module ( in voice mode) > along with a k2000(master) and korg x3. my interface is a unitor mk2 > my environment consist of a very simple " scratch" environment as >describe in len sasso's tool kit ( starting from stratch pg 18) > the problem is the vl70. after selecting the instrument within a >short time it will " freeze" it appears to be a loopback or similar >problem. i have tried seting the note filter to channel 1( pg 99 of >vl manual) but that does'nt seem to help. i also set the instrument >to "no thru' in the midi option page but then it does'nt seem to >recieve midi data . is the solution thru a fader or other tool > has anyone had this problem?? > thanks in advanced. The VL70-m has a soft thru which cannot be turned off. You will have to route the VL's in port of the physical input to a "dead end", so that the data does not get to the "To Sequencer & Thru" object. -- Beste Gruesse - best regards, Michael Haydn EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH SoundDiver Group Executive Logic Windows Developer Unitor8 Control Project Manager

AFAIK you'll then be having problems if you'd like to record breath or wind controller data from the module into Logic, would you not? personally I'm looking into adding such a controller to my master keyboard instead of plugging it into the VL70-m, and then there hopefully shouldn't be any problems. rgds, Björn Elfström ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Haydn" <mhaydn@...> | The VL70-m has a soft thru which cannot be turned off. You will have | to route the VL's in port of the physical input to a "dead end", so | that the data does not get to the "To Sequencer & Thru" object.

on 11.07.2000 20:56 Uhr, shape at shapeshifter@... wrote: > I am about to buy the EXS-24, and am just curious if the 4.3 version that I > assume comes with it has any other updates or changes other than support for > the > native sampler? No. MMM -- Markus Fritze Emagic Soft- und Hardware GmbH <http://www.emagic.de>; Chief Developer New Technology Integration, MacOS

Try the key command * on the num display Mikael Adle citerar eanweb <eanweb@...>: > Hey All. > Currently i push record button on transport bar to > start recording. is there an easier way (key > combination) that i can use to trigger start of > recording. > > Thanks, > James > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > http://cosmikdali.iuma.com

If you bounce midi you have to connect the output of your soundcard to the input. Try read some info on Dave Bellinghams site. Theres a link on the home of the LUG. Mikael Adle citerar cbeceiro@...: > I am new to Logic and this group so I have a basic question that > Emagic support has been very slow in answering. I have AW2 on a PC. > My ultimate goal is to burn a track I recorded in Logic Audio > Composer to CD. I bounced the track to an interleaved stereo wav > file in the mixer. When I tried to play the finished wav file on > RealPlayer, there was just three minutes of silence. When I burned > the track to CD, again there was just three minutes of silence where > I burned the track. What am I doing wrong? > > > > > > Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > http://cosmikdali.iuma.com

You have to convert them to real audio or WMA or mp3 or some other small compressed format. Mikael Adle citerar Robert Frost <robertfrost@...>: > Hi Logic Friends > How do I put my audio CD songs on my web site? QuickTime movies at full > resolution take ages to open. I'd like: > 1) Some way that people can begin hearing them quickly on line. > 2) Quality files that the patient (or cable modem users) can download. > Thanks > Robert Frost > > > > > Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > http://cosmikdali.iuma.com