>I think Emagic should do this : > >- let registered owners of the old dongle(s) make the exchange with >the USB dongle >- put a permanent mark on the old dongle(s) so that the exchange >can't be done more than once >- give it (them) back. This is indeed wishful thinking and maybe a bit much to ask. But the idea is certainly fair given the situations that many of us registered users find ourselves in everyday. I too use LAM on two mac models, (one usb and one adb). I think a good compromise would be to allow registered users the ability to purchase a second dongle at a (greatly) reduced price. We've already bought the software, we're just trying to use it in our modern studios, as promised. The entire computer/studio picture has changed greatly over the past 10 years. It's really time, some of the old time software companies begin to change some of their ageing policies to something that more closely reflects the modern needs of their users. Subala

Hello again.... As a fellow vs studio owner, I would like to help if I can...and the only help I can offer is this suggestion....do you know whether your interface drivers are current??......if your roland module isnt sending and receiving properly it may be something in the module....had the same problem with the yamaha, and went back to factory default, cracked the manual, started all over and found the problem..... I've used a few different sequencers and by far, Logic was the most cooperative in terms of linking all midi devices together....the Mtc works incredibly with the vs, never a problem..... I'm looking at the vs 1880 now.....however, through other forums I have heard knocks against the supplied vs logic...happy with your 1680??? Lee Kanne captain@... Marica Greenwood wrote: > --- In logic-users@egroups.com, Lee Kanne <captain@u...> wrote: > > Hello.... > > > > My setup is the same, pretty close...a vs 880ex and logic > for > > midi with a roland xp-30 and a yamaha dtx drum module....the key > lies in > > the interface it seems..mine is a motu micro express with a serial > > port...the interface is connected to the printer com port on the > pc, and > > once the drivers were loaded, Ihave never had a problem..one thing I > > noticed is the interface must be swithched on before the computer is > > booted though..... > > > > Are you using the vs logic that came with the vs 1680? I > > never even loaded mine, I always have used platinum 4.1.1...like I > said, > > > I'm just using the logic which I purchased from Roland Canada. I've > had my 1680 for over two years and that is befor VSLogic was written. > > Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com

Instead of writing a new manual why doesn't emagic or someone else (theirs a demand out there $$) make a CD-ROM, or better yet, Quicktime tutorials available online for registered users only. For a fee, registered users could log on and see at least two "task -oriented" examples of every function in let's say the Environment,Sample Editor ect... I realize that it is impractical,expensive or whatever to write a manual in several different languages. Having said that, I think this is the best way to learn a deep program such as Logic Audio. Oftentimes the manual offers no more than a simple definition to some of it's most advanced features. If your English is shaky, you will at least be able to see and hear a use of that function rather than just have a simple definition. Peace Enrique Martinez

> Does Logic support VST Instruments like the LM-4 Drum module made > for Cubase? I have Logic Audio Platinum on the PC. PIII 500, 128 MB > RAM, Echo Audio Gina card. Yes, Logic does. Since version 4.1.1. You should upgrade to 4.2.2 anyways as the support of some of them is better in there. Sascha

Thoughts from the mind of Jim Savage, 06-06-2000: >It was said by Hendrik Jan Veenstra: >" > >And, let's admit it: how many people use Max? So how many LA-users >would want such an import-function? >Even though it would be "way c00l", I don't see this happening anytime soon... >" > >I think this isn't the way Emagic should think about this. No, you're probably right. But I was not argueing how they _should_ think --it was more of a guess as to how they probably _do_ think. Unfortunately these are not the same :-). cheers, Hendrik Jan -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra ( h@... )

I think the best choice is the Emagic, but I'd like to hear other opinions. Thanks, Remco

Thanks to all who chose to jump in on this topic. Here's a precis of various opinions, as much for my own benefit as anything. It's rambling, i'll warn you, so delete now, with my apologies, if necessary. First i want to share this, from E-magic in Germany, to Sonorus. Sonorus wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1. Malcom Payne (<mailto:mpmusic@...>mpmusic@...) has been experiencing a 100ms delay >on the automation when running 1 track and engaging a fader automation. >He runs a G4 500 with 512MB RAM running the native studio driver. Have >you >encountered this before? Is this a normal delay? Will the automation >delay >increase as more tracks are added?<<<<<<<< E-Magic wrote back: >>>>>>>No, the latency is always the same, depending on the I/O Buffer Size you have adjusted within the Audio Hardware & Drivers page (see screenshot). If you lower the I/O Buffer size, the latency will shrink. (Due to my experiences StudI/O can be set to 0.125 which results in a latency of about 1.2 ms) Also, the Volume Smoothing parameter is affecting automation like volume and pan: It's default is 50 ms, if you want faster response, lower this parameter the desired amount. If the Option "Use larger Process Buffer" is enabled, Logic will use the double audio buffer size for calculating real time fx - This also increases the latency by factor 2 and if you want to have fast response you must turn it off. <<<<<<<<<< The last 2 paragraphs are just rote suggestions. The first paragraph is interesting, though. E-Magic seem to be equating latency with automation response, which others here dispute. Also, 1.2 ms??? If that's correct, then there should be no more problems. this doesn't seem like the experience of either Thomas Whitmore: >This is the famous 'automation latency' problem, which I have been bringing >up over the past 2 years. Automation improvements are scheduled to appear in >Logic 5. > >However, the delays you experience do seem quite large. They should be >pretty much equal to the overall audio latency, and many people are getting this down to between 20 and 50 ms. Or Michael Barrett: >> Now this is a 'feature' I had not run into before, as most of my fades tend to be slow, but this aroused my curiosity enough to test. Sure enough, there's a delay. I can't fathom why I hadn't noticed this before. As noted, changing the buffer size reduces the delay but doesn't eliminate it. << As Ferenc notes, this isn't exactly latency. Its a slew , a slow fade instead of a sharp cuttoff. Funny: It's the same problem (with similar lag values) that i had with my VERY FIRST Session 8 setup, running on a Quadra 650!!!. After a short while, the problem was fixed; Digidesign shifted the track automation to a chip on the card; after that, very sharp automation, as I recall. Interestingly, Steffan Diedrichsen is denying that they do this, even with DAE: >That's not true. The digidesign system is just using DSPs for signal >processing, leaving enough CPU power >just for the automation. There are no DSPs for automation. This last sentence seems weird to me: When the Mix Chips load the "24 bit mixer" surely, that's exactly what they are : "DSPs for automation"? Ferenc again; >>>>A Digidesign guy told me about the automation DSP. Then why does AudioMedia II, on a MacIIcx (that I used to use), have zero latency (throughput and automation) with LAM? For you youngsters, that's a computer so slow it took about 4 seconds to change screensets. Imagine a G4 running at 0.5Mhz!<<<<<<<< So here's a question: If the Session 8 did it (processed mix moves on the card), and the Audiomedia 2 did it, and Mix Plus obviously does it, will the Digi001 do it? Could be a quick solution, if it does. a native system with no automation lag? The guy who sold me the sonorus card is presently testing this with other sequencers. I'll keep you all posted. Thanks for all the input Malcolm -- ----------------- Malcolm Payne Music San Francisco

> Maybe Emagic is having the manual translated into English not word by > word, but overall sentences, paragraphs and concepts? That certainly > takes a longer time (you need somebody who #1 knows German/English > AND #2 understands Logic completely AND #3 is well versed at writing > manuals). > I already have the English v4.0 manual so the translation is already finished - it's much better than the v3 manual, but certainly not perfect either. I've had it since early this year - no idea why it's taking so long to get them now.

At 1:15 AM -0500 6/6/00, mars@... wrote: >Hi, > I also use the Waves Ultramaximizer but I was wondering exactly >what does the selection >"16 bit" and/or "24bit" in the Bounce to Disk dialog do? If I'm >already dithering thru Waves, >does this setting have any function other than setting the final >bit-depth of the bounced file? In >other words - does this setting perform truncation or does dithering >in Waves canel this out? > >Thanks, > >mars If you dither your mix to 16 and then do a 24 bit bounce, your mix will be a 24 bit file with the last 8 bits all zeros. It won't be truncated. In fact you could convert this resulting file to 16 bit without dithering and it would sound fine, as you would be just truncating 8 bits of zeros. If you want a 16 bit file, bounce at 16 bit, with the dither on. If you want a 24 bit file, turn the dither off and bounce at 24 bits. HTH Malcolm -- ----------------- Malcolm Payne Music San Francisco

Hey all, i have the AMT8 connected to the comport the only but large problem i have is that i can only use 37 midichannels but i'm sattisfied with this for now comming from a soundblaster pci64. But i would like the remaining midi channels to get available for use in logic,etx. over usb on win98 is this possible or not(or is the cab still looking for a driver??) Logic 4.04+AW2 works fine so i think let's get the AMT8 this should work oké can someone give a litlle bit of info on this. Thankx and GRTZ, treza ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

>At 1:01 +0000 07.06.00, madchill@c... wrote: >>They still haven't changed it on the site. : ) But god bless em >>anyways! Keep up the good work Emagic, and get that Win2k support >>down! >The NT beta driver for COM port does work on Windows 2000. So where >is the problem? Michael, The BETA NT driver is no longer available on the Emagic Website. And I for one could not get it to work correctly when it was. I think it had something to do with the fact that the BETA driver did not allow for COM port selection. I tried running Unitor 8 control, but it would not work. Best! Chad -- >Beste Gruesse - best regards, >Michael Haydn >EMAGIC Soft- und Hardware GmbH >SoundDiver Group Executive >Logic Windows Developer >Unitor8 Control Project Manager

what type of system are you setting up? logic based? pc/Mac? pro tools? etc..... -----Original Message----- From: Igor Mathez [mailto:imathez@...] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 8:27 AM To: logic-users@egroups.com Subject: [LUG] Looking for Consultant in San Francisco Area I am looking for a consultant in the San Francisco Area to help me set-up my system properly. Anyone knows of someone I could rely on for a consulting agreement? Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com

I'm looking for someone in the Philadelphia area to help me set up my system and consult for LAPM. If your interested call or email. 215-482-6988

I was with thee or four drives repeated names on Audio Hardware SetUp Options . Lots of distortions ... So, I opened the Device Meneger and it scans for new drivers ... I deleted ALL THEM ! I closed all windows and re-boot the machine . Open Device Meneger for a new scan to re-connect Logic to my Layla . It finds some drivers (not all of them but ...) ... I open Logic Audio and try to open my almost finished song ... ERROR TRYING TO OPEN PCAV DRIVERS or something like that ... If I click on STOP, the advice pops-up again . I did it three time so far and nothing changes at all ... ... no sounds, just MIDI data flowing ... That`s how Logic Audio should be called for Cubasis guys : The Sound Of Silence Sound Forge plays at any stereo combinatiopn that I want , so I guess it`s a Logic vs. Audio - The Saga continues ... Help ! Mark

never a problem..... > > I'm looking at the vs 1880 now.....however, through other forums I > have heard knocks against the supplied vs logic...happy with your 1680??? > > Lee Kanne I'm quite happy with the 1680. I've been on it for two years now and I think I've gotten the Roland tec support pretty much trained up. But sereiously, it works fine and having everything in one box like that is really nice. For real serious stuff the preamps need a little help from a high quaility external mixer but once you get past that it works fine. The mastering software that came out for it last spring has helped me a lot. With it I can get my mixes as loud and flush as any commercial CDs out there. But I'm always looking for something better. I'm just getting into this Logic stuff now. How do you like Logic?? Hows it compare to the VS format??? Sincerely, Todd Greenwood

Hi Mark, > Sound Forge plays at any stereo combinatiopn that I want , so I guess it`s a Logic vs. Audio - The Saga continues ... Try using the Logic Audio Device Setup window (LADS). This may get you what you need for Logic to work. HTH, Fernando

I have setup the PC with Logic 4 Platinum, and is working like a beauty. However I am looking for someone to help me with: - My environment - My MIDI setup (Motu Micro Express, but getting MKII) - Mackie and Layla setup(not sure if I did it right). - General MIDI questions. Equipment list: 1 Mackie VLZ 1604 1 Synth 2 Sounds Modules 1 midi controller 1 drum machine 1 sampler I have read all manuals, also The Environment Toolki, Easy Guid to EMagic, etc etc. I want to make sure It's done properly. Thanks --- In logic-users@egroups.com, "tyork" <Tyork@e...> wrote: > > what type of system are you setting up? > logic based? pc/Mac? pro tools? etc..... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Igor Mathez [mailto:imathez@v...] > Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 8:27 AM > To: logic-users@egroups.com > Subject: [LUG] Looking for Consultant in San Francisco Area > > > I am looking for a consultant in the San Francisco Area to help me > set-up my system properly. Anyone knows of someone I could rely on > for a consulting agreement? > > > > > Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com

Hi, Sorry to hear about this... ~ what sort of files are you trying to import? Must be AIFF, 8/16/24 bits, Uncompressed. ~ What Mac have you got, system version etc, how much RAM, and how much RAM allocated to Logic? Sounds like DR-005 is running out of memory - are you trying to load a big sample in to a small space? Regards, Angus. At 13:30 07/06/00 -0700, David wrote: >I'm sorry but please disregard my previous email since I downloaded a more >recent demo and it now does appear in the insert list of the instrument >track. >The problem is when I try importing a sample, I hear my mac's alert sound 3 >times before quitting Logic. Anyone experienced that? > > :#:::::fxpansion::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::-:=:x: | http://www.fxpansion.com - info@... | | London, UK - +44 (0)7808 157 967 | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

hi all, can, an audio track, follow a tempo change ????? and how !,,o:)) Tx

Ok, I'm new to this list... so let me first introduce myself.... My name is Ryan Summers, I've been playing around with a few software programs and a synth on my pc for a couple years now. I recently bought a copy of Logic, and now have a lot of questions. I've used Cubase VST in the past, so I've noticed some similarities. My main question of the day is: When I open up the Rewire channels in logic (for rebirth 2.1), how do I record the different rewire channels to the audio tracks in logic? (or is that even possible?). I usually am just using the two 303's and then 5 of the different 909 sounds. Ideally, I'd like to have logic run different efx on those sounds and then record the rebirth sounds + effects to disk. If anybody has any info, please let me know... Thanks, Ryan

Has anyone upgraded to LAP from Logic ISIS (which came with the card) and then had problems (ie. GPF's galore) ?? If so, has anyone worked out how to get it all going ???? PS. The system in question is a PIII 450 with 128mb RAM Intel Seattle board 1 Quantum IDE HD (a good one - not one of the crappy ones I always get warned about). Cheers, Jamie

Hi ! What do you Mean Mr. Nando ? I didn`t get it ! I was traveling between the Device Menager and Logic Hardware Setup for 4 hours and nothing ! Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fernando Vicente" <fvicente@...> To: <logic-users@egroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [LUG] Logic ate my dirvers !!!!!!!!!! > Hi Mark, > > > Sound Forge plays at any stereo combinatiopn that I want , so I guess it`s > a Logic vs. Audio - The Saga continues ... > > Try using the Logic Audio Device Setup window (LADS). This may get you what > you need for Logic to work. > > HTH, > Fernando > > > > > Unsubscribe: mail to logic-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com >

At 07:25 00-06-07 -0700, you wrote: >After suffering with instability since day one running LAWP with AW8 plus >DS2416, and trying all tips I could find, I think I've finally >(accidentally) found nirvana :-) > >I had always selected 'Load High Performance Defaults' in my BIOS setup (K7M >motherboard, Athlon 600, etc.) and something made me decide to try the 'Load >Failsafe Defaults' just for fun. My rough measurements only show a very >small (< 5%) decrease in processing speed, but my system is _much_ more >stable. My suspicions are that something about the DS2416 is close to the >'edge' as I've had instability on other motherboards as well. (I have two >2416 cards, an old one and a new one and they behave identically) > >While I'm *extremely* happy about this, another problem has cropped up: if I >double-click on a Waves Native Power Pack I plug-in in the environment >window (I'm using version 2.8, of the C1 Compressor, for example) it causes >the 2416 audio channels to go out of sync with the rest of the song. An odd >buzzing noise occurs while the Waves editing window opens. If I stop >playback and then re-start, everything is fine. I've tried adjusting the >Windows video acceleration setting all the way from 'none' to 'full' and >while this changes the nature of the buzzing sound, it doesn't have any >effect on the loss of sync. (I have PCI Bus Mastering turned off for the >video card). > >Anyone have any ideas? Could there be some setting that I've loaded with >'Failsafe BIOS defaults' that might explain this? Same thing here Mike with a Celeron 4000 256ram an Intel MB 440ZX and an ATI expert 98 Michel

There is a little app to enable hardware setup: The Logic Audio Device Setup - as Fernando says. This can be found in: start > programs > emagic subfolder. Alternatively try reading the manual or do u have a cracked version? Tony Perretta ----- Original Message ----- From: GruvWiz <slamprodussa@...> To: <logic-users@egroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [LUG] Logic ate my dirvers !!!!!!!!!! > Hi ! > > What do you Mean Mr. Nando ? > I didn`t get it ! > I was traveling between the Device Menager and Logic Hardware Setup for 4 > hours and nothing ! > > Mark > > > > Hi Mark, > > > > > Sound Forge plays at any stereo combinatiopn that I want , so I guess > it`s > > a Logic vs. Audio - The Saga continues ... > > > > Try using the Logic Audio Device Setup window (LADS). This may get you > what > > you need for Logic to work. > > > > HTH, > > Fernando

Ryan Summers wrote: > My main question of the day is: When I open up the Rewire channels > in > logic (for rebirth 2.1), how do I record the different rewire > channels > to the audio tracks in logic? (or is that even possible?). I > usually > am just using the two 303's and then 5 of the different 909 sounds. > Ideally, I'd like to have logic run different efx on those sounds and > then record the rebirth sounds + effects to disk. > If anybody has any info, please let me know... Well, no need to record them as audio tracks I'd say... until your song is finished anyways. Just use FX to your liking, the tracks are directly streamed ("rewired") into Logic's mixer. If you want a final mixdown in your platform of choice's audiofile format, just use the bounce function available from the master fader. Sascha