> I dunno if there is a way to convert the actual song data - Anyone? Creator/notator creates .SON [song] files there is a way of exporting these to a midi file that keeps the four arrange tracks that are available in notator [i guess its the same in creator] You have to shuffle the tracks around abit so the right stuff ends up on the right track after export, and you have to use Dmix to separate out the rest of your midi tracks anyhow. It's easier to dump as midi, several times if you need to, just make sure all tracks have a count in. MAAK