Hi Ray, > >Does this optimization also appear if using a traditionally > >constructed environment mixer? > > You mean non-audio? I guess not. > > No, I mean audio. Some of us "old timers" who weren't "brought up" with the track mixer still prefer using the audio environment faders. This way we can set it up exactly as we want and avoid the, say, two bus default view in the track mixer window limitation for example. (I know, I know, you can just add them to the arrange window) And we can lay out the faders any unique way we might want to, to fit our screensets, etc. But you did answer my main question. The VE _does_ effect (increase) track count. -- Eli Krantzberg Nightshift Orchestra Almat Productions