On Nov 2, 2007, at 1:36 PM, NacNacStudio wrote: > Hi, > I'm using altiverb for years in combination with logic. Why altiverb > and not space designer? The reverbs are very ..real... warm and > definitely better than in space designer.. In logic 8 open space designer, open the media bin on the right of the arrange page, type in a "+" and you will get a list of the true stereo presets. It is unfortunately still a small list but if you try them I think you may be surprised how much better they sound than the older samples. True stereo makes a very noticeable difference. Still, I must admit there are not really many in the few that are there that come close to the quality of the best altiverb samples, still they do sound nice and if you want the true stereo reverbs that are in the factory library to sound more like the altiverb samples the will if you roll off the high end a little using the filter. I sampled my UAD 1 plate 140 into SDIR format using the impulse response utility and the Space Designer patch sounds *identical* to the plate 140, that was not true in Logic 7, before SD was true stereo, so on the basis of that I have high hopes that before too long a larger variety of SDIRs will start turning up. What I am saying I guess is that I believe the only significant difference between Space Designer and Altiverb is the IR library available and I think it is reasonable to think that will change. Altiverb will probably always be ahead in the number of IRs and Altiverb's variety is truly impressive but for me it is overkill, for me anyway, all I really need are a few that I like and know where to use.