thanks paul!!! that is cool! that has given me a lot more oppurtunities now, i never knew when to use the muti channel mode before now! do you know if there is a reason that the ultrabeat only has voices 1-16 and why are they only available in stereo pairs? thanks again anyway ross p.s. does my method of drum programming sound over complicated to you? is there a simpler alternative like lots of seperate ultrabeats or even just using samples in audio channels? i know that is a big question but hey i gots to try and see what others do.... THaNKYOU