> That's what I was referring to; I just didn't know what the plugs were > called. The reason that I'm asking is that I'm using version 7.1.1 and > I don't see them. Are you sure that they were -included without > additional fee- prior to 7.2? The bass amplifier was added after 7.0 but I'm not sure if it was in 7.1 or 7.2. However, the guitar amplifier was definitely there in 7.0 (I used it a lot in that version). It's listed under logic- >distortion->guitar amp pro. Maurits.