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From: "Maurits van de Kamp" <maurits@bassment.nu>
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 at 2:39:06 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Logic Wishlist - improved Freezing intelligence
Message #224238
This is a reply to #224219.
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:48:33 -0000, Noble Gowing wrote > Freezing is pretty poorly implemented, as far as really helping you > make the most of your hard drive(s). I see a slight misconception in your wishlist: Freezing isn't meant at all to help your hard drives. It's meant to help your CPU. It's obvious that a frozen track will always require more disc access than an unfrozen track, since the point of freezing is to read all data (in 32 bit float) from disc rather than calculate it. Therefore if you freeze all your tracks, your harddisk is bound to "crap out". You should only freeze tracks that have a lot of CPU-heavy plugins. > 1) Once a track is frozen, Logic should analyze that frozen audio, > and break it into regions, only playing back the frozen regions that > have detected audio signal in them. All of this done behind the > scenes, the user being left blissfully unaware. Come on, Apple, > this is well overdue. This would mean either only skipping digital silence (which is a pretty rare occurance, especially if there's a reverb somewhere in the track), or determining some sort of threshold, which would mean that freezing would influence the result, however slight. The latter is not an option I'd say, and the first could work but I doubt it would make much difference. > distribute my song audio across two additional drives, leaving the > song drive to play back only frozen files and, still, it eventually > craps out. You say 'still' as if that's a contradiction, but as I said, freezing increases disk load by it's very nature and there's no way it's ever going to reduce it. :) Disk distribution is a way to help your disks, but that doesn't really have anything to do with freezing. This distribution is best done by the user (as you are doing now), and if you want to freeze tracks because your *CPU* is in trouble, the wisest distribution is to let both disks play some frozen tracks. But you are right in that all frozen tracks are always played from the same disk because you can't choose (individually) where they'll end up. > Wouldn't it be great if Logic would distribute the > frozen audio among other drives in your system as it deems necessary, > so that your song hard drive would not be overwhelmed by lots of > frozen stereo files. I guess that would be nice, though I'd rather specify the distribution myself. Maybe a destination path per track could be useful for that. Still, if your system gets in trouble and you've frozen all your tracks, it's time to try and UNfreeze a few and see whether that helps. :) Maurits.
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