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From: Blair Fisher <blairfisher@shaw.ca>
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 at 9:29:10 AM
Subject: Re: [LUG] to 192k or not to 192k?
Message #220548
This is a reply to #220536.
On 11/2/06 2:19 AM, "Leslie Bell" <xbjllb@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Most people lose their hearing in the high mid treble > frequencies... I have a notch there but can still hear > those darn supersonic alarm systems or the carrier signal > in cheap TV's, and I think few people lose the really super > highs at the threshold of hearing... they just have very little > to do with the intelligibility of human speech which sits a lot > lower in the frequency range. > > With my experience at 192k it's more of a feel thing... > on a good system that can reproduce it (and I heard one > of the best here at a convention at Las Vegas) you really > get a lot more of the "feeling" of the musicians actually being > right there in the room. Interesting stuff, Leslie: I didn¹t know that people tended to retain their really high frequency hearing even if they lost their high mid sensitivity. I guess it makes sense, since we are not being bombarded in that range the way we are with the more audible frequencies. As far as ³feeling² the difference at 192k ­ if you say you do, that¹s fine. I had suggested to the OP that he try different sampling rates, and he came back and said he didn¹t hear a difference. In his case, given the fact that he is running out of tracks at 192k, I really think he should be using a lower sampling rate. I¹m the first to admit that I haven¹t done any kind of listening at 192k (yet) so I can¹t say for sure if I would hear a difference. My hunch is that I won¹t, but we¹ll see.... However, I think we always need to be aware of the power of suggestion. Not dismissing your claims at all, but many people, when they do an A/B test expect to hear a certain difference, so that¹s what they hear. I¹ve certainly noticed that with microphone ³shootouts² etc. - when people don¹t know what it is they are listening they become much less sure of their preferences. It really should be a double blind test, where nobody knows which track they are listening to until the end. If there is a clear difference that is heard every time, then I think we have something pretty concrete. Blair -- blairfisher@shaw.ca
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