FWIW (and I sort of hate being the guy to say this...) a lot of it has to do with the time and depth you put into finessing the drum parts. I have heard some pretty mediocre drum samples sound fantastic with a little programming magic. Don't over quantize, add little nuances, ghost notes, listen to how and when a drummer fills, and some judicious (or not) use of fx (try a little bit of saturation). ___ Nathan Rosenberg Music Production The Doghouse NYC www.doghouseNYC.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.23/513 - Release Date: 11/2/2006